Reminiscing over the electrifying riffs and anthemic choruses of rock's golden years,– the magic of music and memories interwoven. Alongside my pals Mark Smith and Lou Calicho, we set the stage for a rollicking tour through rock 'n roll's finest hours, live blunders, and the quintessential tracks that have become the soundtrack to our lives. From Pink Floyd's phoenix-like rebirth to INXS's undying allure, we pay tribute to the bands that withstood the ultimate test: replacing an iconic frontman.
Imagine you're backstage at a Van Halen show, the raw energy of rock pulsing through the crowd – we bring that buzz to your ears with candid tales of concerts past, including my own escapade of sneaking into a show and rubbing elbows with Diamond Dave. We're serving up a banquet of dialogue on the enchanting melodies of '87, dissecting everything from the musical alchemy of Fleetwood Mac to the nostalgia-inducing flicks like "The Lost Boys." It's not just about the notes and chords; it's about how these cultural cornerstones sculpt our personal narratives.
With laughter and a touch of irreverence, we don't just examine the tracks that made us turn up the radio; we put our own spin on the year's hits and misses. Picture a musical supergroup of our favorites, and tune in as we debate whether the Stones' "Miss You" can beat Supertramp's "Give a Little Bit." With a nod to the comedians who leave us in stitches and the albums that split fanbases, we weave through pop culture's vast tapestry. So, kick back and let this episode be the needle dropping on your favorite vinyl – it's time to let the music play.
Reminiscing over the electrifying riffs and anthemic choruses of rock's golden years,– the magic of music and memories interwoven. Alongside my pals Mark Smith and Lou Calicho, we set the stage for a rollicking tour through rock 'n roll's finest hours, live blunders, and the quintessential tracks that have become the soundtrack to our lives. From Pink Floyd's phoenix-like rebirth to INXS's undying allure, we pay tribute to the bands that withstood the ultimate test: replacing an iconic frontman.
Imagine you're backstage at a Van Halen show, the raw energy of rock pulsing through the crowd – we bring that buzz to your ears with candid tales of concerts past, including my own escapade of sneaking into a show and rubbing elbows with Diamond Dave. We're serving up a banquet of dialogue on the enchanting melodies of '87, dissecting everything from the musical alchemy of Fleetwood Mac to the nostalgia-inducing flicks like "The Lost Boys." It's not just about the notes and chords; it's about how these cultural cornerstones sculpt our personal narratives.
With laughter and a touch of irreverence, we don't just examine the tracks that made us turn up the radio; we put our own spin on the year's hits and misses. Picture a musical supergroup of our favorites, and tune in as we debate whether the Stones' "Miss You" can beat Supertramp's "Give a Little Bit." With a nod to the comedians who leave us in stitches and the albums that split fanbases, we weave through pop culture's vast tapestry. So, kick back and let this episode be the needle dropping on your favorite vinyl – it's time to let the music play.
Well, here we are, episode 132. Going strong, and on this episode it's going to be a mixed tape tonight. Yeah, we got a lot of stuff, a lot of multiple choices. We're going to talk about some lead singers that might be overrated. We're going to talk about bands that lost their lead singers. We're going to have a whole bunch of different stuff going on tonight. It might be a long show, I don't know. You get a lot of stuff to cover. Depends on how fast we do it and, as usual, I'm with the Wrecking 2, mark Smith and Luke Calico from the Music Relish show. Find it on YouTube and, with that, sit back, relax and enjoy the mixed tape show. A bunch of stuff tonight. I think you're going to like it. Enjoy the show.
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Speaker 1:Thank you, Amanda, for that wonderful introduction, as usual. Young Amanda is in Disney World right now, as we speak, enjoying her life. She deserves it. She's a wonderful, wonderful daughter. And with that said, welcome back, my friends, to the show that never ends. Welcome to the podcast. You know the name, I'm not going to say it. We're streaming live right now over Facebook, Twitter X. See, I messed up my whole spiel by doing that. D-live Twitch. You know, let me get this off the screen. So I get two mice. So is that what you call them? Is it plural? Like, if you have two computers, a laptop and a desktop, and you have two mouses, are they mice or mouses? That's a question. That's a question. Yeah, it's quite. You know who will answer that question. You know Professor Lou Lou Galeckio from the Music Relish show. Is it mouses or mice?
Speaker 1:or how do you, if you have a laptop and you get a desktop and you get two of these.
Speaker 4:I would think it's mice.
Speaker 2:Two mice I get two mice, not mices.
Speaker 4:I would think originally it's really mices.
Speaker 1:I heard you say that's why I stole it. I hear everything. What cartoon was that? Oh, come on, I'll tear those mices to pieces. Who was it? Who was it? Wasn't it Jinx the Cat? I don't know. Yeah, because Tom and Jerry there and talking. That's right. Yeah, it was Jinx the Cat, Don't fuck with me Cool man. Oh, look at Brian Gill right off the bat. Sweet Lou in the house, look at that.
Speaker 1:Thank you, let's see Fly with the Dutchman. Good evening, gentlemen. We're ready for another great show. Thank you, sir. And speaking of a great show, let's pop in for the other boys.
Speaker 3:Yes, Mice, mice, is it mice?
Speaker 1:Yeah, mice, first of all, get out of my spot. That's my spot. There you go.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're on top. I'm doing a bono on you, hollywood Squares. Fly with the Dutch mentors, walter Düsseldorf, by the way.
Speaker 1:There you go. All right, right, gill, just popped in Nice, nice, nice, joanne Doyle, because boys, I love you. Joanne, she's sharing the live stream. So the last I don't know. Last couple weeks I'm doing the podcast, about halfway through I started getting fucking congested.
Speaker 2:I don't know why right.
Speaker 1:So this week I'm fucking prepared. The phonies. Dr Vera hooked me up Nice.
Speaker 3:That stuff works good too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I pop off because.
Speaker 2:I'm shooting up.
Speaker 3:Oh, just let us see you do it. Come on, We'd love to watch it yeah yeah, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:This isn't a King of Facebook show Scott.
Speaker 4:Try the nitty-pot Huh. Have you done the nitty-pot? No, I'm not doing that nasty.
Speaker 1:That's nasty.
Speaker 4:And I'm not going to do it while I'm doing a live stream.
Speaker 2:Well, that would be an interesting live stream. Let everybody see what comes back. King of.
Speaker 1:Facebook show. When I bring that back, it pops. It's like a pop-up. Now I do it Sunday morning, but I used to do these Friday night and they were out of control. Anything goes, and I would probably have done it on that.
Speaker 4:You know I got to stay high on coffee with the king this Sunday.
Speaker 1:Yes, lou caught coffee with the king, renee Straubeng. I love Renee Crazier than a fucking sprayed roach, but I love her. She says you're allergic to all the cats. No, I'm not allergic to all the cats. Oh, this would have happened a long time ago. Pay attention. Well, just walk away. Renee, hit the road, jack. All right, so I'm going to stop this off. Let's jump right into it, because I don't care about what you guys have been doing. Anyway, so cool, cool, fine. Yeah, well, hey, look at Lou. Hey, mark Lou, is Lou broadcasting from a hospice right now?
Speaker 3:It could be a secret location. Looks like Motel.
Speaker 1:I don't know dude, that looks like a fucking hospice table next to his fucking his sick bed.
Speaker 4:No, it's got a fucking alarm clock.
Speaker 1:He's got fucking.
Speaker 4:I don't.
Speaker 1:He's? When is he got? He's got a box of tissues Fuck.
Speaker 4:No, I don't. I've got two studio monitors, I got my cheesy lamp and I have a book of the biggest hits of the 80s.
Speaker 3:I just holds up a box. I got balloons on my tissue balloons.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to.
Speaker 4:I'm going to cast.
Speaker 1:I'm inventing something here. We'll start this off with we're going to play 45 poker, 45 poker, all right, so I have a box right in. You can see, this is retro boxes. Yes, yeah, right, this is right from the 70s, this thing right, but it's got 45s and it's got a stack of 45s Somebody gave me because everybody knows that, knows me, knows my record collection is a collection of collections People have gave, given me, they've given me their collections and they have a beautiful home to play and they, they are all alphabetized and you know, and so I have a bunch and people have sent me these and they sent someone sent me a box of 45s. So I think these range from like 70s to the 80s and it's hard to believe that there was still 45s being made in. Mark, you and I were talking before the podcast all the way up to, like you have what, motley Cruz, home, sweet home, yeah, so was that like 88?, 87?
Speaker 3:I remember buying one when I was like 22, 23 in Sam Goody.
Speaker 2:Right, I've never made them later than I think.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because vinyl is still being made.
Speaker 1:It's hard to believe that. Huh yeah, like you just don't put those things, I always think of them as 70s, maybe early 80s. Yeah, they were still pumping them out, man Still pumping them out.
Speaker 3:It was the same time as cassette singles. Remember those? Oh yeah, they're horrible. That was an epic fail.
Speaker 1:I think I actually bought a few, but it was like that's why it was only a few.
Speaker 4:Wasn't 87 the beginning of the so-called death of vinyl?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah, that's about right, that's about right. All right, so we're going to start with Lou Lou, I'm reaching into the box and I'll just show that I'm not cheating. I'm feeling lucky, I'm feeling like I'm going to put them in front of the 45, in front of Spider-Man, the bust, let's see, there we go, reaching in, pulling out for Lou Henry Mancini and his orchestra theme from love story.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's so you Lou Cool Nice.
Speaker 1:With the B side being phone call to the pastor. You already losing, you're already losing, that's perfect. All right, I'm going to pull up mine now. I'm going to pull in, reaching in and I'm not looking. I don't know what's what. So this kid's?
Speaker 3:not going to get it.
Speaker 4:He's got curled edges. We can see your hand. I got curled edges.
Speaker 1:I brought them, I put them over the stones. Hey it's doing there we go, here we go. There we go. I pulled out. Oh, fuck, clinton Holmes, there's no future in my future. Oh, I'm losing.
Speaker 2:Playground in my mind, oh, unless.
Speaker 4:You know that song.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 4:I know his my girl.
Speaker 1:I got her Not horrible as fucking I just too early.
Speaker 3:I should have shut up and I need to shot up potent iced coffee for the coffee for this oh man, that's not song she.
Speaker 1:I hate that fucking song. We're gonna let them visit her grandma, you're maxing to pull a fucking doosie. But here we go Reaching into the box and what do we got? Edward Bear, best friend and last song. I think we're tired right now.
Speaker 4:This is great. Wait, do you know last song? No, it's the last song I'll ever write that might be better than mine.
Speaker 1:Okay, Alright here we go Lou round. Two it's three guys 345s and then we will decide. Maybe the audience will pipe in and see who they think.
Speaker 4:I hear you go.
Speaker 1:Lou Ready Ah, you've got. Let me see Sammy Davis Jr. I've got to be me and be a natural being me Cool.
Speaker 4:That is. I think it's cool, I gotta be me.
Speaker 1:I gotta pull it. I mean we know like the one hit is gonna win this. It's already fucking in the cards.
Speaker 2:We're in the 45s and I don't know where anything is I'm reaching in, reaching them Where's?
Speaker 4:collection is this, I know right here we go.
Speaker 1:Come on, give me a good one. I'll be there by the Jackson five. And one more chance, jackson five.
Speaker 4:Oh baby, give me one more chance, that's a big hit.
Speaker 1:Let's see what we got. I love when I pull, I see Motown, I know all right, that's a fucking good one. There we go, reaching in, reaching in, pulling from pavilion records. That's not a good start. It's not a good start. The Edwin Hawkins Singers oh, happy day. And Jesus, lover of my soul.
Speaker 3:Oh, you're fucking losing.
Speaker 1:I'm in last place Unless you pull like an Elton John and we don't something, you know, something big like goodbye yellow brick road or something. This is this. This next pick is going to decide. Yeah, because if you get a good one, then you and me are about equal, but if I get another good one, I'm gonna win Right. So here we go, reaching in. Reaching in from Apple record. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh oh oh, oh, oh, home run the Beatles, let it be. And you know my name I have that 45.
Speaker 1:Let it be? No, that's who's. Is that? That was loose.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I just saying, I have that one. I thought, it was my loop.
Speaker 4:Look up my name.
Speaker 3:Welcome to slaggers.
Speaker 1:At least you know what this is. This is like getting rid of the shitty cards in the deck, so the rest of them have to be better than I'm sure we pulled the bottom three.
Speaker 4:But I got the worst, the bad, here we go right off the bat.
Speaker 1:Here we go. All right, mine Big one, big one From ABC Paramount Records. Oh fuck, little Tommy never love alone. And I walk on.
Speaker 4:What the fuck is that lose?
Speaker 1:winning Unless Mark. This is it. This is the game.
Speaker 4:He's got two clunkers. I think the theme from love stories. But you had two clunkers to Henry Mancini, a clunker I not in my book.
Speaker 1:Well, this is going to be a discussion. If me and Mark say it's clunker, then you lose, okay. You gotta pull a really good one here, buddy.
Speaker 3:I'm not messing with the professor there we go from.
Speaker 1:Oh, Casablanca Records Flash dance what a feeling. By Irene.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I win, I win. That's a mega hit Classic rock all around.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right. So the cards roll like this Sorry.
Speaker 4:And kiss her yeah.
Speaker 1:Cods roll like. This Loom has theme from love story. It's big I was ahead. I gotta be me, I've got to be me.
Speaker 4:David's a winner by the Beatles, that's three winners. I have.
Speaker 1:I walk on by little Tommy. One more chance by the Jacksons and playground in my mind clean homes, what the fuck? And then Mark Mark has flash dance. Jesus lover, my soul, just for that you lost. Just for that you lost.
Speaker 4:I was no fucking way around that you lost.
Speaker 1:You could come up with it Just for having that 45, when you're fucking deck, you lost.
Speaker 3:I'm the other way, senators of this game.
Speaker 1:Best friend by Edward Bear. There Last one Lose the winner. Let me see if I remember my thank you, beatles.
Speaker 4:Let's see.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, lou wins. I put this back over here. There we go. Oh someone, someone has a great. No, I'm gonna have a recall. What did?
Speaker 3:someone say You're.
Speaker 1:Robertson.
Speaker 3:And flash dance. That's a mega hit.
Speaker 4:That is huge she didn't even do the dancing in that thing my head, that's in my head, that song.
Speaker 1:Don't, don't listen to. Robin Curry.
Speaker 3:Dr. Do you have two slots in that box, scott?
Speaker 4:No.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:It's not a fucking magician's box.
Speaker 4:That's pretty cool.
Speaker 3:I guess I should stop.
Speaker 1:I was pulling rabbit out of my box. That's what she said.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm rim shot.
Speaker 3:I think that's.
Speaker 4:I think it's very fitting there's a Jackson five one in there, because that reminds me of being in elementary school and having those in the class and we could listen to music at lunchtime. Right there's, there's Jackson five, forty fives in there.
Speaker 1:Put the shit back and salami sandwiches. Put that away to the next show Moving on. So let's talk about bands that lost their lead singers, right, and whether they went on to start them or not is, I guess, up for debate. On some of these, some they definitely did Interesting, so I'll start off.
Speaker 4:There's a lot of those on tour now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I'll start off with the obvious Pink Floyd Right, mm, hmm, mm, hmm Went on to be even bigger than they were After their original. After Sid Barrett left and I think we talked about that last week maybe that that was probably the best thing that ever happened to that fucking man.
Speaker 2:Yes, it was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what do you got, lou Finn?
Speaker 4:Lizzie.
Speaker 1:So they went on without after him, right, did they?
Speaker 3:They tried. Yeah, they did. They changed their name. They didn't. Scott Gorm, the guitar player, got them back together.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they weren't.
Speaker 3:Lizzie right, yeah, when Phil died, I don't think there were any more. I could be wrong, but I don't think there were any more than Lizzie albums.
Speaker 4:Right Was Snowy White in the band then.
Speaker 3:He was on, like the last couple albums, and he was, you know, a big sideman for Pink Floyd for years and he joined Roger Waters.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2:Two.
Speaker 1:Mark.
Speaker 3:Go with the success story. Ac DC and both singers equally are good, but Bon Scott gone and died. But Brian Johnson, yeah, you'd say they were more successful with Brian Johnson. But you cannot say that Bon Scott was not the heart of AC DC. They were a different band.
Speaker 1:They were definitely a more gritty yeah, like kind of yeah, just deep guttural garage band type.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Heavy, heavy and polished in the sound that they produced, but it still had that grittier sound to it. Yeah, just his growl and his raspiness in his voice that you know that it's not even a raspy voice, it's a guttural.
Speaker 4:It's a guttural. It's a guttural nasal. It's more peculiar. Brian Johnson or John Stemware, he's got a peculiar voice, but Bon Scott had a different. It was a weird tone to it. It was just perfect, but you know they were heavy, but there was. They weren't sluggish though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, right, let's see I'm going to go with another obvious one Fleetwood Mack, yeah, who went on to flourish after, after Bob Welch. Right was, bob Welch was one of the lead singers, right.
Speaker 4:He was a middle one. Yeah, peter Green. Peter Green, and probably some of the others too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but once they they they found Lindsay Buckingham, who brought Stevie Nicks with him. After a discussion there was a. It's a whole thing about that.
Speaker 4:They didn't want her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they, they, they had her, stevie Nicks and Christine McVeigh. They were like you guys got to go out and just fucking meet each other and see if this is going to work. Of course, all all hinging on what Christine McVeigh said, you know.
Speaker 3:And her and Stevie got along good. They were very close.
Speaker 1:They got along great yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think you know that was that. That was the the plus and and I we talked about this a couple episodes ago that Stevie Nicks actually only sang like five of their hits, or something like that. Yeah, it's not a high number, but everybody thinks she's the voice. Yeah, so what is that saying?
Speaker 4:She was a star. Yeah, right, yeah, she was not if they didn't take her, they wouldn't have done what they did.
Speaker 1:No, no, it's beautiful she writes strong songs.
Speaker 4:Had that great voice.
Speaker 1:She caught on with that little witch thing. They knew how to promote that.
Speaker 2:The boys and the girls like her.
Speaker 1:The boys and the girls like to yeah. Yeah, because she wasn't, like you know, too flashy, she was just kind of a. But Christine McVeigh, I think, was I, I don't know. I always seem to like her songs better. Yeah, I just like her voice better too. Me too, you know. But who do you got Lou?
Speaker 4:In excess.
Speaker 1:That was a bummer.
Speaker 4:That's always a bummer, but that was you know. Yeah, he was, he was good and he was underrated.
Speaker 1:Very underrated. I don't think he had enough time to become you know that kind of well. He was a superstar in his time.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he was a fucking. He was a megastar he was everywhere and the girls loved him.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:What was that?
Speaker 1:longevity didn't give him that front man status, the you know elite front man status. Maybe you know he had stage presence.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:You know, that was a huge album, kick kick, yeah.
Speaker 1:But you know what? All their albums Shabu, shabat, good album, yeah, I mean, all their albums were good. They had more good songs on every album than they had bad songs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And I was. I was a big fan. Kick was the monster, though that was the one that that was there. Josh retreat.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, you know A more fun record.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, very like there was a lot of different shit going on there, a lot of different sounds, different beats, different tempos. You know it jumped around a lot, but it all worked.
Speaker 1:I don't think I mean, what was that? Maybe the worst song in the album was Guns in the Sky, but that was, and that was still a good song. It wasn't a hit, but it was. It was a good song. I thought it was repetitive and you know an okay song, but you know it's on that album. Had to do it. Good, mark, what do you got?
Speaker 3:Well, real quick, I just want to bounce back that Bob Welch. Everyone always says Bob Welch was not recognized in Fleetwood Mac. It's criminal that no one gives him credit, for he got Fleetwood Mac to move to California and that's what got them Stevie Nexon, lindsey Buckingham. Yeah, because if they were still in England I don't think they would have gotten those two, you know.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I think Bob Welch had his, had his minor success as a solo. Honestly, he had a couple of you know, ebony Eyes and uh, and that was a Fleetwood.
Speaker 3:Mac.
Speaker 4:All I need is you or sentimental, sentimental lady that was off of the Ebony Eyes album right.
Speaker 3:But it was originally on a Fleetwood Mac album.
Speaker 1:He just re-recorded it which one Ebony Eyes.
Speaker 4:Yeah, um sentimental lady.
Speaker 3:Sentimental lady. Yeah, those albums with Bob Welch I have a fondness for.
Speaker 1:French kiss, that was the name of that Um.
Speaker 3:French kiss yeah, yes, yes, yeah, great album.
Speaker 1:I mean, I liked it. I love those songs. They so those those songs um Ebony Eyes then, and they're down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down, down down down those songs bring back like some real heavy summer memories from like. I'd say 1980. Probably I was before that, I think.
Speaker 4:Uh, yeah, maybe 78. Yeah, I was like 78. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was like 78. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And I remember I was, I was, I was like nine, ten years old guys, but um, I remember seeing his albums and saying this guy looks cool, he just, he was so cool, I can wait.
Speaker 1:What the hell does this mean? My brother just piped in this is Smitty. Thank you, it's refreshed.
Speaker 3:It's a nice, I know, this night for him, like Jerry Garcia on the last dead tour.
Speaker 4:Rapper Kirkman is doing blow.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dr.
Speaker 4:Porkshop's going to do some cocaine. Stevie Nick style. There you go. What the hell's going on here? What the hell's?
Speaker 1:going on here.
Speaker 4:I'm at the wrong party here, exactly. That's another podcast, isn't it? Oh yeah, crotain Stevie Nick style.
Speaker 3:You know it is. I wore a nice shirt tonight, that's why I look refreshed.
Speaker 4:I powdered my face before the show.
Speaker 3:What's this?
Speaker 4:All right I was going to make up first.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, um, okay, uh, I'm going to go with for my turn, uh, genesis. Uh, you know, when Phil Collins quit, everyone assumed it was done, but they did an album with Ray Wilson. Stupid idea on the part of Rutherford and Banks, but I like the album and I think Ray Wilson got the shaft because he's an incredible singer and there's some good cuts on that album.
Speaker 1:I don't think he stood a chance since Gabriel left. And then Phil Collins. I mean, lightning struck. Well, I think they were better with Phil Collins than they were with Peter Gabriel.
Speaker 4:Me too. That's another, I do too.
Speaker 1:Another band that was lucky to lose their lead singer or have a lead singer that thought that they could go do something. Peter Gabriel had a great uh solo career and and that's where he belonged, that's where he's at.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because the best thing for both, for everybody, yeah.
Speaker 1:Because the band was too good to be bogged down with his fucking stage shows and all that shit, this shenanigans yeah. You know, I mean you see the videos, him with the fucking, he's got the fucking flower pot, yeah, the mime on his and the whole pot and he's doing the fucking dancing around the stage. I mean I hate that shit worse than fucking Jethro Tull. Oh, oh, and I don't like that shit. That's all up there with sticks, that, all that fucking.
Speaker 3:Pick on my sticks, not pick on my sticks. Whoa, whoa, whoa, yeah, whoa. Um, I like all phases of of uh, genesis and you go in these forums, right, the fans are just bitterly divided. But my favorite too is is a Phil Collins, and that includes the 80s. I like the pop stuff. It was good stuff, good memories, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So this is. This is an odd one, it's it. So this band, this band's lead singer, left, right, they bring in a new lead singer, but they change the name of the group. They change the name of the group. So Zach Dela Rocha left rage against the machine, yeah, and they bring in the best singer of of his generation, chris Cornell. I Will argue that with anybody. So so underrated, I think, in that aspect. And they call themselves audio slave. Yeah, right, and they moderate success. Oh, yeah, really good, yeah, yeah. What's the oh, what's the fucking song off that?
Speaker 3:I can't remember the slaves and bulldozers. No, that's a, that's a sound garden song.
Speaker 1:No, that's audio slave Really yeah, maybe.
Speaker 3:Maybe I'm not so refreshed tonight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, slaves and bulldozers, I believe that. That's audio slave. Look it up.
Speaker 3:No, it's on bad motor finger. They made bad motor finger. It's a sound garden song.
Speaker 1:I'm in the panel.
Speaker 4:Oh no, he threw himself in the bike.
Speaker 3:Cool Wow oh we did throw him. What's what's the best opera production at Loser leads singer Lou probably Regulator okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah they're just fabulous.
Speaker 3:I can't believe.
Speaker 1:You said oh cool.
Speaker 4:Four times the last time.
Speaker 3:You suck. Thank you, dr Vera, for buying that. Yeah, I love that thing headphones.
Speaker 1:Oh, audio slave was coach, I think coach she's. That was one of their songs. Coach she's good Fuck, I mean Anyway Lou joy division the death of Ian Curtis, hmm so should joy division in new order being the rock of a coffee. Joy division and the water slash new order?
Speaker 3:I think so they were. They were the start of that, the genre, and they were. There really was nobody like them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think they should be I, if the cure is in there.
Speaker 3:But if they get in they probably won't put in the Petschup boys because they lump all the 80s synth stuff. Doesn't matter if it's totally different. Yeah, I don't think the Petschup boys stand a chance.
Speaker 1:I think just because. I think, just because it doesn't matter. Just like Jonah, I'm a trading, just like I mean America. I mean America might make it in eventually. But you know there's certain artists that they just don't, they're just never gonna Going to consider them. You know, yeah who's? Andrew Wood I.
Speaker 3:Mother-love bone, I think oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Dr Pork Chop he died mentioned mother-love bone earlier yeah he OD'd early on, yeah, but then see see, dr Pork Chop stop paying attention. Because then the band broke up right.
Speaker 4:They yeah yeah yeah yeah, there's not in the rock and the hole thing who?
Speaker 1:Bob Wilts from Fleur Mac they're all in, except I don't know if he should be in there. I don't know if he, if he was part of the band he was, he was as the band yeah, yeah, so he didn't Attend and he didn't get mentioned, he didn't get.
Speaker 3:I think what they do is they say they say how successful was the band when you were in it? Because that also happened with, I think, jewish priests. They didn't bring Richie Faulkner because his period in the band. They go after the periods that like what made them get into the rock and roll game. But I consider that Bob Wilts period essential to the band.
Speaker 4:So I disagree with the rock and roll hall thing right if they, if they'd gone from Peter Green right to see Stevie and Lindsey, would they be in Probably, yeah, yeah, what would they be with Bobby Welch?
Speaker 1:My brother calls his joy division. Alone. They started the Manchester Sun. They were part of it. Yeah, they were part of it, but they won't never. They won't do it alone. Because they didn't have a, they didn't have longevity, they didn't. They were just about to start their first tour. Yeah, for first, you know when Ian Curtis hung himself the night before they were supposed to play Boston, wow.
Speaker 2:Wow show.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So they don't have enough longevity to make it in there and for the most part, the rock and roll Hall of Fame gives two fucks about the Manchester Sun.
Speaker 1:Tell you that they give two fucks about that, which is a huge, huge scene. Yeah, the Manchester scene was so fucking big over in England, right, which is One of the the founding fathers of rock and roll, right, yeah, it grew like a plant, like the seed was American blues and, and you know that type of music went over to England, planted a seed and look what came out of that, right, so the Manchester scene was so fucking big from like 87 to 93 that Kids were wanting to go to Manchester University just to be in Manchester.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:They didn't give a fuck about what major they were taking, they just wanted to be in Manchester.
Speaker 2:You know, in bands.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just see them, just to be in that whole scene. And he says my brother says watch the movie. Yeah, 24-hour party people who talks about it? But they weren't the catalyst to it. They're considered Well, they might not even be in the Holy Grail of Manchester music. They're. They're always, you know, known for what they did, but they didn't have longevity, that's it they didn't have what it takes. That's why new order formed out of so. Dr Pork Chop says they've a mother-love bone formed Pearl Jam. I said no.
Speaker 3:A couple of play, a couple of it was a super, it was good, yeah, yeah, they joined Pearl Jam, I'm thinking of a temple of the dog was a super group.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah yeah. So All right, moving on. Who, whose turn was it?
Speaker 4:There was me.
Speaker 1:All right, you're up, lou.
Speaker 4:I said joy division.
Speaker 1:Oh joy division, okay, mark.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna go with the Iron Maiden. You know the purest go who. Paul Deanna was great the first two albums, but Bruce Dickinson put him over the top. No brain.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, I mean he, he, basically that's he. He Imprinted it. Yeah, everybody's brain. Yeah, you can't. You can't even think if you want to talk about a lead singer that came in and absolutely Fucking owned it, just owned it, and made it his. Yes, yeah.
Speaker 3:It's Bruce Dickinson. When I was in high school, nothing was cooler than the number of the beast album cover and kids would walk around with the album If they didn't listen to it, because it was just cool.
Speaker 1:There's a black little jackets and everything there was a bar in the Philippines called, and all these bars were just fucking. They were great because the facade was always fucking like the like. It was called the monster rock bar, right, and they had outside they must have. It must have been a 15 foot tall, eddie, oh, oh man it was like hanging on to the building, that was like cut out of wood and I fucking broke the brilliant artists over there right and you just can't miss.
Speaker 1:It was lit up, it was painted and, like you know, like really nice fucking paint. The thing was yeah, when you walk inside it was just fucking caught. Oh, nothing, we lost you for a second there. Yeah, we lost. Yeah just glitching and glitch out for a second. Um, yeah, it was. It was insane, like, and it was just loud, you couldn't hear yourself talk. Wow, yeah.
Speaker 2:I got a rock bar.
Speaker 1:I wonder if this this gotta be a picture of it. I'll send it to you. It's got to be out there somewhere, because that was one of the One of the more.
Speaker 3:Iron maiden struck gold with having Eddie, because each album cover was a story in the evolution of Eddie, yeah, and you know, in the pad itself, well, he eventually was seven, sonny as brain being torn out and all that.
Speaker 1:So it is yeah great Explain to the people who Eddie is.
Speaker 3:Eddie is Iron Maiden's mascot. He's a skeleton with long hair and actually he looks as most effective on their first two albums when it was more roughly drawn. It's pretty, pretty freaky looking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if you want to see what it is, look up, look up. Yeah, I had made an album covers.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's on all of them. He's on all of them and certain any.
Speaker 4:Nicko big. Nicko McBean was an oblong in character.
Speaker 3:What's that, nico?
Speaker 4:Nico the drummer, yeah, Nicko McBrain right. Yeah, like a red skull cut everything happening.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 3:And he joined the band. He was the original number I always liked in their documentary. He's not the original. I always. Now Clive Burr was the original, so in the there was a documentary of theirs called flight 666, and Bruce Dickinson piloted their 747 around the world on the tour and I love that one scene. Nico McBrain he's eating a pizza. He's like I like this pizza. It's got the stinky feet cheese on it. You know funny guy.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna go with another obvious one, but I'm gonna have. I've had an epiphany, gentlemen, I've had an epiphany. So Van Halen, right. So you know. David Lee Roth and semi-haggar two, two different sounds, more mature, and the second incarnation of Van Hagar, yeah. So David Lee Roth. When I was a kid he was a fucking God right me. And when I was older he was still a rock God. I Was always in camp. Can't camp David Lee Roth on this one. And then, you know, I started paying attention to the guy. And then you start seeing video of the guy, like backstage, and you know he's that fucking guy that looks like a fucking rock star actor, but as soon as he opens his mouth it's a fucking idiot, it's stick, it's all just in the faces that he would make and he was always hamming to the camera mugging, mugging it up.
Speaker 1:Mugging and being cute. And then you think and you watch Concert footage, and he was a fucking like a one-trick pony.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's stuff is hard to watch when they had all he did was fucking kick his leg splits and fucking spin around and jump.
Speaker 1:Do this like he. I Think he was fucking overrated in the right he tried, he tried to.
Speaker 3:He wasn't even singing the songs, he was just, like you know, talking to the audience, and that's right. He lost his patience with them.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, I never saw him, my brother saw him on the 1984 tour and he just just talking, no singing, talking, yeah, leaping and cavorting, you know just they said, but he had that leg kick thing right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's really you know, and so I saw them at the when they their first headlining tour was Van Halen 2 and when it was they were the headliners. I mean, they had Van Halen, they toured as back up. Then I think halfway through they picked up and started doing there, but they never had a full-on.
Speaker 3:You are the headliner tour, yeah, and how big a place did they play as a tour?
Speaker 1:I saw him at the Boston Gardens, so they really are already fucking sold out we snuck in.
Speaker 1:So the old Boston garden had more fucking holes in it than a spaghetti sieve, right, and a fucking spaghetti strainer, and I would eventually go on to work canine security there to pull the plug those holes, right, the God dogs. So there was one section of the Boston guns where you'd walk in off the street and there's an arcade, like games and all that shit, and then right after the arcade, like straight ahead, was a train station. It was underneath the Boston gun and you would walk up these stairs. It was probably steps point 20 feet wide, 30 few, and you would go up and there's these doors there, but they weren't using them as as entry points. There were exit points.
Speaker 1:So I didn't have tickets, me and this other dude didn't have tickets. So we're like fuck, you know, let's just go in and see what we can do, see a group of kids up at the top of the steps and they're all standing around. So I'm like I know they were up to no good, so let's fucking join them right. So I knew what they were doing. Somehow they banged on the door. They banged on the door, we banged, then everyone started this fucking old guy, this old Usher, right, do it had to be fucking 70, right, he's got in back. Then they were the fucking blazers and the whole thing. Yeah, he's like okay, guys, what's going on? We're like ah, you know, it's just one. He goes, now you can't. And as soon as he said you can't, come in someone, we grabs the door and rips it out of his hand and the fucking onslaught just comes in like like a horde of zombies, except we were runners, not walkers, right, and you just want to eat these later
Speaker 4:at it everywhere right.
Speaker 1:Chaos ensues. Fucking security guards are running, running, running. I make the mistake of fucking running up some stairs right to try. Fucking security guy catches me.
Speaker 4:Fuck right.
Speaker 1:He's about to walk me out. He's walking down the steps and he looks at this boss. He goes. What am I doing? He goes fuck it, Let him go.
Speaker 4:Ah, wow.
Speaker 1:So I went from the balcony up there, yeah, down to the front row. Well, I made it down to the front row and that was the constant where he handed. David Lee Roth handed me a joint. Someone handed him a joint that was like a foot long, she is, and he sparked, he smoked it and then he fucking handed it to me and I wow and someone reached over and grabbed it and I just broke it in half and said, fucking, take it.
Speaker 1:I took that and I fucking rolled it in my ticket stub and fucking, yeah, you still got it my ticket stubs thrown away. My brothers threw them away or something happened to them, but I had a whole fucking like a wood jewelry box full of ticket stubs that was one of them and no more. No, that shit was gone. But yeah, that's my van Halen story, that's my Sammy Hagar in the end as a better lead singer.
Speaker 3:You know what Sammy Hagar is? He's the working-class blue collar guy. He worked hard at being a rock and roll singer.
Speaker 4:He worked on his craft and he's got to work ethic.
Speaker 3:And if, if the makeup person didn't do his hair right, he wouldn't give a shit. He'd still come out on stage, yeah. And if the lights weren't working at night, he wouldn't care. He puts on a great show and I like and I liked I personally in high school. I was in freshman.
Speaker 1:I didn't like him.
Speaker 3:I didn't like the red rock or whatever was red rock? Yeah, first of all, year 83 or 80.
Speaker 1:Sorry, I can't drive 65.
Speaker 3:My sophomore years, when, when, oh what was the first album? I forgot the name of it with Sammy Hagar and it was divided.
Speaker 1:Oh, you wait one too.
Speaker 3:No, that was the second three lock box or something. 51, 51, 51. Oh, van Halen, I'll even say when that came out, bitterly divided half the high school, half the kids, like the.
Speaker 1:David Lee Roth. How naive I was. Now that I'm older, I look back. I'm like he was a fucking douche.
Speaker 3:They brought some.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah well, did you see? His latest my brother said David Lee Roth on Scott's shoulders, his sweaty balls ran on the back of my neck I reserve that for bono.
Speaker 4:I went big when.
Speaker 1:I did it. I went big.
Speaker 3:Did you see um David Lee Ross latest youtube video where he's picking on wolfie? He said during the last van halen tour, wolfie was mad that he wasn't giving him enough attention on stage. It's kind of making the news now. And it got so bad that they did a show at Jones Beach theater and David Lee Roth invited a few people and they were on the side of the stage and wolfie had security kick them out because he was Pissed off at David Lee Roth. I don't know who to believe, you know. And then when they were in LA doing, I think, the final show, the same people were there and wolfie again had them removed just because he was pissed off at David Lee Roth. And it turned out that this lady was the accountant. She had all the money for the stage crew checks, the paychecks, and so David said oh, you got all the paychecks, come watch the show. It's on video now. It's out there on youtube now. I'd like to hear wolfgang's assessment on that, because I don't see wolfgang as the kind of guy that does that.
Speaker 1:I don't know how the fucking cares about David Lee Roth.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he might not like maybe when he was a kid. Yeah.
Speaker 4:If you could still semi sing when he left. Any was like he said. He felt freed up to be able to write songs, not not for his limited vocal abilities. Yeah, yeah when sami and sami during the action. That's why the song is that more compositional.
Speaker 1:Yes, uh, who's up?
Speaker 4:lu oh, let's see um Blind melon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, shannon uh.
Speaker 1:Shannon coon. You know he he did that. He did that guns and roses song. There was a video they're up on a fucking like water tower and there's a helicopter and that's singing. Uh, I forget the name of it, but he actually was friends with axl rose.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a song with the more of the album, but yeah, he, he died.
Speaker 1:They had somewhere. I don't know if they would have had um.
Speaker 3:No, rain was like you know that's like a one hit wonder to me, yeah, and.
Speaker 1:I don't understand why I sleep all day.
Speaker 4:Very catchy song very early 90s poppy catchy song. Yeah, that's, that's good, guitar sounds in it.
Speaker 1:B girl with the B girl Yep.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the B girl. And he looked like uh, for some reason I just remember people just talking about them so much so you know, were they part of the jam band scene, I guess?
Speaker 1:they were part of the Seattle scene. I think they were Seattle.
Speaker 4:That's right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think they were Seattle. If they weren't, they were still friends with uh what's that yeah?
Speaker 4:it's supposed to over those.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're supposed to over those. Yeah, yeah, mock.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna go with black Sabbath and um, I know you don't think highly iran and james deal but I like both See after deal left. I don't really count any of their errors. But the error with Ozzy was great. But the error with deal had to happen. It got them into the 80s. Whereas genesis went pop the right way to go into the 80s, black Sabbath turned heavy metal to hit the metal scene in the 80s with deal. They never would have done what they did without them and I think it was very successful. Two separate stages, two equally good phases of the band.
Speaker 4:So you're saying it's like semi hagar replacing dave lee roth?
Speaker 3:Yeah, they, you know.
Speaker 4:I mean, I'm running.
Speaker 3:James, he was probably.
Speaker 4:It is technically probably a better singer. He had a bigger, more of a range.
Speaker 3:Ozzy has a.
Speaker 4:Ozzy has a style in the delivery, but a limited range. Yeah and it was great.
Speaker 1:I have to shoot up. I'm gonna shoot up right now.
Speaker 3:So oh, we can see it All right Rock and roll rock and roll next to the.
Speaker 4:If you use your neti pop and he knows this clog that comes at your pupils like I, like a gargoyle.
Speaker 1:Why would I want to do that?
Speaker 4:Because it clears.
Speaker 1:it clears your sinuses out, it feels so good, we'll see how long this takes to fucking kick in 45 minutes. I can taste the shit in the back of my throat. Oh, I hate that. Oh yeah.
Speaker 4:It tastes like like. It's like roses. I mean mark I.
Speaker 1:I, I I disagree with you, but it's your pick. I'm not.
Speaker 3:I can't those, those two albums they did was sit with. Uh, ronnie were. They were fantastic mob rules was was part of.
Speaker 1:Oh, god, I saw the black and blue tour and when I was a senior in high school I thought it was the coolest thing that I thought about it. Afterwards I said that sucked. Yeah, uh, let's see. My brother says wrong, smitty wrong capital letters oh no, would never have broken through with deal.
Speaker 3:Oh, he's right, I didn't say like, yeah, ozzy's what got him through. But Coming into the 80s you had the new wave of British metal starting, so you had iron maiden coming up. Yet I hate AC, dc aren't heavy metal to me, but they're part of that.
Speaker 3:And then you had the black Sabbath turned into the typical metal, the stereotypical, stereotypical metal that was needed to be successful. So he's right. They were right, yeah, with deal on the band that they wouldn't have been what they were. Ozzy made the band. I can't say which era was better. I love them both so.
Speaker 1:Well, we know we, we know Lou, which era was better.
Speaker 4:I'm not big, big Sabbath fan. I don't remember. I don't remember Sabbath would deal. I remember deal like with the holy diver. Yeah, there was that was after that right Holy diver.
Speaker 1:Yeah, should have started to do up.
Speaker 2:That was in 1958., that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. Um, all right, there's this group. We'll. We'll do one more round of this, yeah, okay, uh, this group, I can like one, two, three, four, five, six lead singers. Who do you think it is Six lead singers from the beginning?
Speaker 3:So now, it's got to be like a doo-wop or a r&b.
Speaker 1:Frankie valley he would no, six lead singers, from where they the the first incarnation to now.
Speaker 3:Now, so they're still together journey.
Speaker 1:Yep, yeah, I, that was my last band, fuck you, yep, greg Roli to Robert Fleischman, to Steve Perry, which is Stratosphere, sure. Yeah to Steve and Gary, who looked like fucking he came from a tribute band, right.
Speaker 3:Poor guy. He was working in the gap in Brooklyn and they called him up and said he got the gig. He went from working in gap to being in the band. It too, they tore too hard for him. He lost his voice, poor guy. Oh man, I think his nasal spray kind of like.
Speaker 4:He's snorting up again. Well, uh, I guess what. So one of those singers was the um the drummer was it castor nova? He's a great singer.
Speaker 3:He sounds like Steve Perry, so he he castor nova. Yeah, yeah, we can't hear you.
Speaker 1:Then we had Jeff Scott.
Speaker 3:Jeff. Scott Soto yeah and you know where he came from in vae Malmsteen's band.
Speaker 1:Oh okay, really, yeah. Yeah, he's a great thing. They hit gold with anel panada.
Speaker 3:He's a great singer.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you know he was also like he's one of those dudes like he could do Steve Perry, he could also do like there was like two, two other bands that he could Lead, singers that he could sound like yeah, philippines. I'm telling you, fucking tell and he's got more energy.
Speaker 3:Delta with two and a half hour show.
Speaker 1:He's jumping around that stage, dude man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. He's an older dude and he had trouble early on. I think he was homesick and they were touring and there was a point where he was gonna quit and Uh, they would have been foolish to let him go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's all they got youtube. That's crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Uh, from something bottle the philippines, something bottle that was over by clock airfoil space. It was one of the gates. We had something bottle gate the base. You could go right out and we didn't go out into those Fucking places, don't worry, got to, so pun bottle. All right, one more with Lou Lou. Give me one of the mock, give me one.
Speaker 3:Okay now you done mark now I got, one more I got one.
Speaker 1:All right, lou, give me one more.
Speaker 4:Leonard Skinner, even though they carried on with a van zand after, van zand after after the crash was yeah, that was it, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, never, really the same. No um Mark.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna go with queen Just paul rogers coming back, get coming in and they reformed. He was great in a band, he's a great singer that I have a dvd for that tour. It's a really great dvd. But it's not freddy mercury, no, neither were the last, the last two.
Speaker 1:Oh, what is it yeah?
Speaker 3:they got the guy from american idol. Now he's good, he sounds good, but it's not freddy mercury.
Speaker 4:I saw a couple clips with paul rogers. I mean it was really good.
Speaker 1:Not in the rock and roll hall of fame, for whatever reason. Oh my god, yeah, yeah as we always say, that's and that's a Every repetitive theme on this show. Yeah, uh, I'm gonna finish up with two, and you know who they are stone temple pilots and alice and chains.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the guy for alice and chains looks like he's uh, he's modeling a levis. He's always got the denim jacket on and Shit yeah.
Speaker 1:Pretty boy, yeah, anyway, all right, well, moving on, you know, let's jump in, uh, let's get into some movies From, uh, the year 1987. Right, yeah, we're not doing a year, but I I picked the year that we had already covered, but I don't think we did movies. I think me and jack might have done it.
Speaker 3:I don't know, maybe we did that's a year I graduated high school.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna start off with uh Lost boys. That was my first pick too. Yeah, lost boys.
Speaker 3:You're eating maggots. Michael 87. You're eating maggots.
Speaker 4:That's the first movie ever rented on the uh VCR of vcr.
Speaker 1:Ah, wow.
Speaker 4:Yeah okay. Luke, give me a movie from 1987. Angel heart.
Speaker 1:Oh, great yeah, mickey rock, robberton arrow.
Speaker 4:Lisa bonnet right charlotte ramping.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah robberton arrow. Was he the devil?
Speaker 4:He was the devil. All right at those long fingernails.
Speaker 3:You know, they never really said it but that final scene, with his eyes glow.
Speaker 4:He never said it, but his name was louis cypher.
Speaker 1:Yep Louis cypher yeah, lucifer, yep Mark.
Speaker 3:Uh, fun movie the gate. Remember that movie. No, the little demons coming out of the hole in the backyard and they're like it's before before, computers, kids. I was still claymation and they had these teeny kids. They're heavy metal fans. Oh, the tree fell in the backyard yeah. And then they um, they had to like the parents, came home, you were a bad boy, and their eyes start coming out.
Speaker 1:And then all that Remember we weren't so fucking picky that claymation was still okay to us.
Speaker 3:Yeah, scared me.
Speaker 1:We weren't that fucking picky today it's like, oh, that fucking AI or whatever they call CGI, cgi is horrible. It's like shut the fuck up.
Speaker 3:Talk, to talk to these young kids that think that the CGI yoda is better than the real yoda, and they just Well, they only say that because they don't know any better. They just this has to be better, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1:Uh, let me see. All right, my brother just said it, I was gonna say it full metal jacket. Yeah, yeah, two movies in one. Yes, yeah, two movies in one, two totally different fucking movies in only staley kubrick could pull that off, yeah yeah and it was the launching pad for uh he's. He's kind of become one of my favorite actors. I watched the movie with him today. Vincent D'Onofrio. Yeah, yeah played private pile Right.
Speaker 3:Yep, he was so different in that movie.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, this shows you how versatile. And he also played one of the best marvel villains ever, one on daredevil. That's kingpin, yeah, fucking unbelievable. Then he's back, no, no, no, don't, don't See, this is what marvel did now. You got me going so fucking marvel comes out with echo right. She's a fucking, a native american death Fucking amputee. I think she's gay too right Coming of all in one block. She beats up daredevil, Right beats up daredevil. Oh yeah, he ran away Right. I'll be righter and he kind of took off.
Speaker 1:They didn't finish it right.
Speaker 4:I think he's got. It was kicking her ass.
Speaker 1:Well, and then she goes and fucking beats up kingpin.
Speaker 4:Wasn't she using some kind of magic thing?
Speaker 1:It's kingpin.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I know kingpin Well. He's also stronger now in the new ones, and he wasn't the first daredevil.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the rating it's dead.
Speaker 4:Everything they've done, it after most things they've done after a certain period of not well they released them all at the same time.
Speaker 2:They peaked.
Speaker 1:That's why I feel like I'm talking to my son here.
Speaker 3:Let me get my son, I'm gonna get my son, he'll talk to you. You guys can all argue.
Speaker 1:Yeah, We'll do another podcast. Anyway, uh yeah, Vincent's an off real great role. I mean, it was just a great movie all in all.
Speaker 4:There's even the first. I might, this might be the first rom-com of all time. A mystic pizza? Oh yeah, that might be his debut.
Speaker 1:I don't know if I saw that. I don't. I don't watch, I did.
Speaker 4:I was on a date, I did see it. Yeah it was very touching.
Speaker 1:You know what might my me and dr Vera, our first movie we ever went to. It was fucking On on on valentine's day, 2012. It was, uh, the movie with denzel washington's safe room, oh.
Speaker 2:We're gonna have rom-com.
Speaker 1:He's a cool chick.
Speaker 3:You have the first movie me and my wife saw what. Dayton, hellraiser, nice.
Speaker 1:That's a late. Our marriage, that's a weird, like that's a fucking weird.
Speaker 3:That's one of my favorite. That and the second are my favorite horror movies, yeah yeah, that's a fucking weird movie, though.
Speaker 1:You don't understand it. Like you can get lost in it, like where is this going and what is it really? It's just really like it was kind of a b-movie, but it wasn't well.
Speaker 3:It was directed by the author clive barker, and that's what made him good. After that, three and on were Trails of. I grew up very religious and a very religious environment with the. You know what hell is like, and that to me was like, if you're good to pick, tell that was what I was Leaving church that's lying in the whole movie.
Speaker 1:It was like this. I know what you gotta say yeah, I'm gonna do right now. I.
Speaker 3:Oh, I thought you were gonna say we have such sights to see.
Speaker 4:I came out in 87. Yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1:Is my turn again? No, it's is my turn again.
Speaker 4:Who went?
Speaker 1:last Lou, you did okay, well, you're up then.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:I got confused with how I didn't.
Speaker 3:Oh, lou goes, lou goes next and I go, okay.
Speaker 4:I didn't go, ish tar.
Speaker 3:Oh for perry hey.
Speaker 2:I was for Perry.
Speaker 3:I still have to watch it. I'm gonna watch it.
Speaker 1:I'll watch it. I'll never watch it.
Speaker 4:Well, I'm always believe that Hamburg.
Speaker 1:Hill.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Amber.
Speaker 1:Robocop.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that was, that was cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you are under arrest. You have three seconds to comply.
Speaker 1:Do you ever see the movie dread?
Speaker 2:Not judge dread with.
Speaker 1:Sloan dread with Colin, asked my brother what's from the boys? What's, what's the the? What's the guy? The actor, dude, australian dude. He's in that show the boys on Amazon. If you've never watched it, yeah boys is a good show. Oh yeah, keith Urban is a Keith Urban, I think is his name not Carl Urban, I mean color.
Speaker 4:Oh, Carl is the previous guy, yeah.
Speaker 1:Colin urban. You gotta see the movie dread.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:Fucking great.
Speaker 3:Carl Urban. I was introduced to him. What was that Vin Diesel movie? It was science fiction. Oh.
Speaker 1:He's blind.
Speaker 3:He's the necromancer. Yeah, and the second one, that was a good one. Judy Dench and Carl Urban as the head of the evil guys. He was perfect in that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I said this guy's cool. You gotta watch the boys on Amazon.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, crazy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, who's up me cue the.
Speaker 3:Well cue, the intense harmonica, the untouchables.
Speaker 1:Good first time, but did not age well see.
Speaker 3:I can still watch it, and I do I. I can't.
Speaker 1:Kevin cost now, who sounds exactly the same in the untouchables as he did on dances with walls and Robin. Hood major league. No we did with fucking Robin Hood as he did with water world.
Speaker 4:You mean fish tar?
Speaker 1:fish time yeah. Water world fish time yeah.
Speaker 4:Of the untouchables. I thought I like the movie. I think he.
Speaker 3:I thought he was miscast yeah but everything else I really liked Sean.
Speaker 4:Connery's part.
Speaker 3:Yeah the guy the beat cop and yeah.
Speaker 1:Classic mind. He will warp to bring a knife to a gunfire. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Was it a wopper, diego Diego?
Speaker 1:Not necessarily I'm staying Irish, it's all the same.
Speaker 3:Yeah, who called me a Mick?
Speaker 4:Lou, let's space balls yeah it is what's be with you if you need a good laugh, watch.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, predator, yeah yeah, when original movie yeah right, yeah, right still remember the first time I saw HBO and I like whoa, yeah, yeah did you see any versus predator where they yes, I liked it, I like you too Okay, is it worth it?
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, I mean, watch it for what it is, don't expect it to be as like, as dramatic as the first alien or the first predator.
Speaker 3:It's a lot of fun, yeah.
Speaker 1:Jason versus Freddy.
Speaker 3:It's just fun.
Speaker 1:Don't take it said like people are. You know it's so stupid.
Speaker 4:It's a fucking Jason versus fucking Freddy right Looking for there's a lot of humans aren't too bad in it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, they got Lance Andriksen, that's never but he's not. He's not the same character, but he's in it, you do know Lou. Then predator 2 there was like a little Easter egg about Alien, right? Do you know that? So I didn't see predator 2 so in predator 2, like when Danny Glover went on the ship as his panning, you do see, like they have, like I think it was trophies of what they've captured or something. You see, an air, you see a alien, alien head.
Speaker 4:So I kind of laid the groundwork, and you know, and you're cool. Yeah, a lot of fun, like I said, yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm up. Movie that started a great franchise. One of my favorite lethal weapon. Yeah, why can't we be friends? Oh, that was the last one that they use that, but great movie. Still can watch those movies to this day, any one of them. I love them all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now gives them with a great mullet, ah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I did great Okay okay okay. Lou, the old nighter with Susanna Hoffs of the Bengals.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's right, that was her movie debut, right.
Speaker 4:Her move the cover. She's in the bikini. It looks like she's about the flash.
Speaker 1:You know it was a flop.
Speaker 4:It's got a zero rating on rotten tomatoes bad bad. Her mother directed and produced it.
Speaker 1:She's still a good-looking woman.
Speaker 4:Yeah, she she was in the news. You know, the last week she had a birthday. She's 65.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Still looks good.
Speaker 4:Yeah, crazy as a fucking moon, but still still an all-nighter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, she's a keeper. She put out these fucking Instagram videos and she's kind of fucking weird. Marie Martin say hey, how you doing, marie? Welcome back, welcome to the show. We're in the middle of doing movies right now in 1987, fatal attraction. Oh yeah, can I cross?
Speaker 3:my legs.
Speaker 1:Big note that way.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah you know, I see me do that.
Speaker 1:No, was that fatal attraction.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I see Michael Douglas.
Speaker 4:Was a Sharon Stone. I got basic instinct yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah, mark, I'm gonna go with it. Just a movie that you may think was stupid, but to this day I love overboard with Goldie Haun and Kurt Russell.
Speaker 1:That was a wacky movie, I mean I think I saw it. Yeah, I don't think I had a problem with a lot of fun.
Speaker 3:Roddy McDowell is the Her, one of her butlers, you know, yep, yeah we're new years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my brother said. Wall Street, by the way, oh yeah greed is good Lou.
Speaker 4:It's a toss up between bar fly and iron weed to my friends. That's a double feature of despair.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, fucking double-edged razor blade.
Speaker 4:You either want to work.
Speaker 1:Yeah, marie Martin, to sit barfully. This was one of the craziest fucking movies I'd ever fucking seen At the time and probably since, if you're gonna ask me I don't know off the top of my head, five the craziest fucking movies I've ever seen. This is one of them. Raising Arizona yes.
Speaker 4:Yes, lou, I've never seen it.
Speaker 1:Oh my god.
Speaker 4:I know, I know it.
Speaker 3:The first of it was like a pulp fiction Brothers movie it was like Pulp Fiction was the first in that that everyone copied that movie after it came out.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, yeah, fucking. What's his name Um? Nicholas. At his at his best.
Speaker 3:Don't ever call him Nikki Coppola.
Speaker 1:No, no, at his best, dude, you got to watch Raising Arizona. I might actually watch it again. I don't know if Dr Vera's ever seen it, so I'll have her. We might watch it this weekend.
Speaker 4:I'm fucking crazy. I'm listening to what I think.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's some shit comes out of left field to you like whoa, whoa, what Great movie, great movie, mark as a lover of John Hughes movies like breakfast club is up there and everything the kind of the end of the era of John Hughes's teenager movies was some kind of wonderful with Eric Stoltz. That was like the last one of those 16 candles and everything and, yeah, I liked it.
Speaker 1:I yeah, I don't really remember it, I'm sure I saw it.
Speaker 3:It was a little too serious. He didn't play up the comedy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:Lou. I'll follow up with another John Hughes movie. I'm one of my favorite comedies planes, trains and automobiles yes, fucking car Fucking right fucking now I.
Speaker 3:Got my hand between two pillows. Yeah, that was, that was. That was the.
Speaker 1:Trailer. That was what made everybody Go see that movie. It was a Thanksgiving movie too, right?
Speaker 4:Yeah, was, it was a thanksgiving movie.
Speaker 3:I think a lot of people consider it a Christmas, I think yeah, yeah, sorry. Is it Thanksgiving or Christmas? I think he's trying to get home for Thanksgiving, but it's considered a Christmas movie for some reason this movie is.
Speaker 1:It's a little different than pot, than than part one, but it's the same character still fucking crazy evil, dead to.
Speaker 3:Yes, it was, it was wacky. No, that was a third Bruce Campbell.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was, it was more of comedy Too, is when he went to the fucking. He went to the whole another world. He had the fucking down no the bangstick.
Speaker 3:No, that was three, because that's when he was in the cemetery and they were doing the three stooges with the skeletons and everything.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's right, that's right. So, yeah, yeah, he worked in Walmart, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Three, so two is where it's like a direct continuation. I should have just had one, and two is one long movie.
Speaker 1:You know Sam Raimi, one of the creepiest fucking scenes in movie history was when the floor came up in the face. Oh my god.
Speaker 3:They meet each other fuck.
Speaker 1:Even today you're watching is fucking creep fact. I think that was in one.
Speaker 4:I've never seen those either. Oh watch them, the evil dead ones.
Speaker 1:What do you've been watching? Rom-coms.
Speaker 4:I didn't, I wouldn't tell things can't came out on video because I'm out in 87. So, I think it's already coming gone, no no, but in the 80s I think over the movies in Jersey because all the big hair, I'm sure the screen the Emerson theater where the we went.
Speaker 3:We will do Emerson? The whole theater was flat. There was no like the floor didn't go on when you sat there. Yeah, you were stuck. You know I'm Lou. Watch the first two. They're good horror movies. There is slapstick in them but they're good hard. The third one wasn't even rated R, I think it was PG-13. It was a dino de la Rensis production and he goes like it's like Scott said. He goes to another world, another time medieval, and it's fun. It's just a hell of a lot.
Speaker 1:He's got the bangstick yeah.
Speaker 3:And then they rebooted on AMC, I think.
Speaker 1:I actually have a statue of him up there.
Speaker 3:Oh nice cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I know you said the Laurenti's. I know that's when we're looking at looking at movies. They produced a lot of movies in a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah oh shit, I'm gonna pump it out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, mark.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna go with one of my favorite comedies because it was so smartly done. Roxanne Love that movie.
Speaker 2:Ah, Steve Martin.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just the, even though he's got this huge nose.
Speaker 1:Basically, you know, serenade, the Berger act right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there was no slapstick with that big nose.
Speaker 1:That was great, yeah, lou.
Speaker 4:I Wish for the correct.
Speaker 3:After two it was done. Cuz two had Jimmy Page do the score.
Speaker 1:It was done after one, come on.
Speaker 3:Directive video oh he's gone.
Speaker 1:Look he's good. Yeah, he's on a death. He's on death watch after that.
Speaker 4:You will leave in Jesus. You're gonna meet him. Invitations those, charles Bronson.
Speaker 1:Let's see, let's go with this is. This was one of those. So the 80s started doing this and and this was pretty good because it's just, it's consistent with with part one and I think there was a Three after this creep showed to yeah, so you can't go wrong with these. You know, multiple story movies, right, yeah, it's consistent, right? They can say you can't really say one is better than the other. On the special effects oh, what's Lou? He has something.
Speaker 1:We may witness something Lou somebody's breaking into the, into the, we're okay, yeah so no one broke into the hospice Lou.
Speaker 4:I heard some things I'm gonna safe house man.
Speaker 1:Look at that blanket. That's like something like fucking grandfather. What are you doing? The hat over his couch, scott. What happened to the porno couch he's?
Speaker 4:covering behind you I'm decorating man.
Speaker 1:Oh, he's covering.
Speaker 4:You want to see the point.
Speaker 1:Look, speaking of 1987, is that when they?
Speaker 4:got that lamp. I'm getting a flashback from.
Speaker 1:Is that when you got that lamp 1987? Look at that fucking thing.
Speaker 4:It's a tear. It's a tear drop.
Speaker 1:It's a goodwill.
Speaker 3:It's definitely a goodwill there from 1987 and the couch is a couch is one big condom.
Speaker 1:He's wiping. That dust hasn't been wiped off since 1987 oh.
Speaker 3:I can't say anything. I guess it's built in.
Speaker 1:That lamp is all the other dust is on the inside.
Speaker 3:It's a bomb. It's an old bomb.
Speaker 1:Look at the shade. Yeah, that's one of those like whoo that's. Look at the shade. Isn't this trendy 1987? I like it a retro, coming Hip. It's hip to be square. There you are now. Look at this whole different look. Now he's got the big porno couch. He's leaned back, his legs across, his hands are folded over his knee. Yeah, it looks like like he's really in an interview room, like.
Speaker 3:Scott, really it's got. Look at to the, to our left, his shoulder, like the edge of the couch, raised, leaning out, looks like the top of a condom. Looks like that little loose party.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't know. I haven't used one in 37 years, maybe longer.
Speaker 4:I'll glue some shells onto my my lamp.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:Now see the shells came along in 1989 see, that's the thing. That's the thing. That's how you can tell how old it is that thing so old it doesn't have seashells on it. Before that period Mark, give me a movie.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give it to you ready, snap out of it. Moonstruck. I love that fucking movie. Share. My mother is dying, I cannot.
Speaker 4:And yeah, that's right, you lost the hand.
Speaker 3:Great movie Lou.
Speaker 1:The witches of Eastwick oh, great movie, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4:There's a fun news, fun movie have a blueberry. No, there's a cherry's one. Oh, cherry's.
Speaker 1:This is where. This is where the they jumped the shock on this one A nightmare in Elm Street. Three dream warriors yes, definitely jumped the shock on that. One. They had docking. Two, wasn't that good? Three made to look like an Academy Award winner.
Speaker 4:This is bad, as death was for the crack down. What happens in death? Wish for the crack down Actually cracks down obviously.
Speaker 3:There's one. There's one good scene in dream warrior. Remember the girl in the asylum. She ends up her heads in the TV and she's hanging out of the TV.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was great. Yeah, and it's up on the wall right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah yeah, it's up yeah and you had a great theme song from docking. That was a good song, yeah, other than that, forget it. Other than that, forget it. Yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, one more, one more mark.
Speaker 3:Should I go with pulp or should I go with a grand epic? Hmm, I'm gonna go with pulp. Nick Nolte and Stacy Keech, I believe. Extreme prejudice. That was a good movie, do you remember that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Marie Martin. So what we're doing right now is we're doing movies from 1987. We already did you missed the bands that lost their lead singers? They're about to move on to another, which is kind of a mixed bag tonight, mixed yeah.
Speaker 3:Um, I just want to say it wasn't. It was a powers booth, not.
Speaker 1:Stacy Keige powers Great ad guy he was one. Yeah, he was. He was a good bad guy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he played a good Jim Jones to.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right.
Speaker 4:Lou Um oh River's Edge.
Speaker 3:Great movie.
Speaker 4:Creepy Keanu.
Speaker 3:Reeves and uh oh, what's the name from Poclopes now?
Speaker 4:Matthew, matthew, matthew Moor, dean. No, no, poclopes Wait.
Speaker 3:Dick the guy yeah, it was a hey man. Oh, dennis Hopper yeah, he was a night, yeah, very bleak looking movie Frank.
Speaker 4:Frank yeah, he's got a Crispin Glover.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:That nut bar Keanu, is great. I'm gonna end it with my name is Anigno Montoya.
Speaker 1:You killed my father. Prepare to die. What movie.
Speaker 4:That was a Scarface, wasn't?
Speaker 1:it. You killed my father, prepare to die.
Speaker 3:Oh geez, I know that's quote La Bamba no I think it's about 1987, though, the running man with Robert.
Speaker 1:Schwarzenegger oh yeah, yeah, it was an Ignio Montoya. You killed my father, prepare to die.
Speaker 4:That's what I didn't want to see. Some of the recommended movies.
Speaker 1:That is. That is actually a classic movie. Yeah, yeah, it's always good, no matter what, it's just always a good watch.
Speaker 4:It was what.
Speaker 3:I was expecting.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's very. My favorite team is a poison back and forth. Now I am giving you that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. And Andre the Giant is greatest, fucking his greatest role, other than one episode of Sasquatch in the $6 million man. But Bigfoot he played.
Speaker 4:He played Bigfoot one episode. Did you play Sasquatch? Did he really yeah?
Speaker 2:$6 million man.
Speaker 1:Look it up, go watch the video on YouTube.
Speaker 2:I believe you.
Speaker 1:Wow, so let's move on from movies.
Speaker 4:Um, why was Sasquatch in the $6 million man?
Speaker 1:Oh, it was like a first it was $6 million versus Bigfoot. It was like a two episode. I remember that one.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it was a to be continued episode.
Speaker 3:I loved it. Yeah, I was a kid, I was like dude, that was the biggest episode ever.
Speaker 1:Every kid in America that was fucking, that was of that age, that would watch. It fucking remembers $6 million man versus Bigfoot.
Speaker 3:And I was convinced that Bigfoot was real. Because of that, I'm like it's gotta be real.
Speaker 1:This is one scene where they're running. They're running through like it looks like ice.
Speaker 4:Slow motion, of course.
Speaker 1:Right, and it's, it's, it's got a fuck. It's like what it was was Um, and they had this in a Universal Studios. Fuck you up, man, like you walk through it, but it's going around, it's like it's like ice, right it looks like ice yeah. And it's just going in your fucking. Get all fucking from it yeah. They had to run through that and they said they don't know how many takes it took because they kept falling over. Yeah, kept falling over, because it fucking gets you all disoriented.
Speaker 3:Now my memories of that scene. I see it like I see my big 70 inch TV, but we're all watching it on these small rabbit ears TVs. But it was incredible to us See you only have a 70 inch TV.
Speaker 1:That's it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm poor, you know actually I only have actually it's 55 inch, that's the biggest one we have, that's right.
Speaker 1:There's two little ones right there, 55. Yeah, so we got those in my secondary.
Speaker 3:We live in a small apartment which I'm about to lose, but we live in a small apartment.
Speaker 1:Mark, don't say that, come on, man, bring us down.
Speaker 3:Can we do a fundraiser if I need?
Speaker 1:right.
Speaker 3:I love my apartment.
Speaker 1:So I want to talk a little about and I actually this. This topic came up the other morning. Jack called me the other day on his way to work. How's he doing? He's doing good, he's doing good. He asked if we were going to be on Wednesday. He said if it was Wednesday he always says there was there was a chance that he could have come on but he can't come on a Thursday.
Speaker 3:If there's a chance, he can come on.
Speaker 1:Let us know ahead of time We'll accommodate. I will. I will Absolutely. So we had this small conversation. Let me ask you first, luke, what are your thoughts on comedy concerts.
Speaker 4:I mean the ones I've seen are you know, I think the Eddie Murphy ones are not the word.
Speaker 1:Historical, like no, I'm talking about the whole idea of them, like Mark would you like?
Speaker 4:would you go to see a, would you?
Speaker 1:go to a fucking like on a major arena to see a comedian.
Speaker 3:No, I had a chance to see Eddie Murphy and everyone went and I said I'd rather watch on TV. First of all, I can't watch comedy movies in a theater. I have trouble laughing. I have to be in my own zone. When I saw Gloria's stuff on, I laugh now by a lover. She had a comedian open and he was actually telling good jokes. I was in the metallands arena with 20,000 people. It just boom, just went nowhere. I mean yeah, echoey, and all that stuff you know yeah.
Speaker 1:I just don't like so, jack, because Jack had said a friend of his had some tickets that he needed to get rid of Jerry Seinfeld down here at the Hard Rock in Hollywood.
Speaker 3:I was like no no, I think comedy deserves to be in a small bar club. Exactly, yeah, yeah, it has to be a more intimate environment.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:So you could see the facial expressions of the comedian, the way they tell the joke. A lot of it's physical, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, comedy, like you know. You see, you saw Andrew Dice Clay blow it up right. First one I was going to sell out Madison Square Garden with three nights in a row, or something.
Speaker 4:Did he really?
Speaker 1:First comedian, yeah, and then I think Dane Cook did it. I can't stand, I hate Dane Cook. I saw a whole thing on YouTube I'll find the video again. I think and it's kind of the rise and fall that Dane Cook and what he got accused of and his brother and law fucking ripped him off of millions.
Speaker 3:Did he get accused of stealing jokes? Jokes, yeah. Who's the guy? Marma's the bitch. That's a big thing. And there's a guy Is it ever. There's a guy, a Spanish guy. He had a show on Comedy Central. Yeah, it was Carlos Mencia.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he got his Joe Rogan went up on stage and fucking just basically yeah, because who's going to fuck with Joe Rogan? Guys like a third degree black belt and jujitsu. Even MMA fighters say he has probably one of the hottest kicks they've ever seen. He's like an animal, right. And he went up on stage and there's a whole video of him calling out Mencia on stage. He walked in from the crowd like I'm sick of your shit, yeah. And then you have all these comedians that were saying, oh, he did this and he stole my joke and this, that. So then you had Dane Cook. Right, there's a whole rise and fall of Dane Cook, right. A thing going on, it's on, it's a whole YouTube episode.
Speaker 3:I'll watch that, because I never got 40 minutes long I never thought he was funny.
Speaker 1:I didn't either, but you know. But you get somebody like Joe Rogan and says he was funny because he changed the game, like he did something different. He was very physical in his the faces and his overreactions was his style and it really was kind of different than what everybody else was doing it was.
Speaker 3:I don't know Like he was the college kids and he was too over the top, and that's what it was.
Speaker 1:He had a college kid crowd. He did this.
Speaker 3:He did this one. Like I turned him on real quick and there was, he was doing this. Don't you hate it when someone turns around and you drive away and you want to shoot him or something like that, and I'm like that's not even funny, you know? It's just like yeah, but as far as Mencia, I listen to Mark Marin and he comes from the comedy store and I love the tales of the comedy store and all the comedians and Mencia was funny, motherfucker.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and Mencia he's, he's any when you hear him he's going, he's doing therapy, talking to you you know. But he talked because Mencia was part of that comedy store and there's a great podcast in a comedy comedy store. But yeah, he just told the whole story on one of his shows with another comedian. His best shows are when he interviews comedians, because that is a dark life. They are dark, they are not happy people, not a right. And yet I mean Tina thing was, it was nasty, I mean you know, and Marin basically said to like I don't like that fucker, and then he had him on, like a month later.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, because he went on Comedy Central, had the mind of Mencia and he was stealing. He did a skit of a dude's joke, another guy's joke, the Jesus thing, yeah, hey, where's? Dad. Oh, he's not home yet, or some shit like that. He was just blatant about it. So now you have Cat Williams. Have you heard that interview on club Shea Shea? No, williams. No, have you heard about it? No?
Speaker 3:I haven't heard about it. What is?
Speaker 1:it. Holy shit, dude Fucking, go on club Shea, shea and Shannon shop. He interviews Cat Williams. This dude fucking just dropped nuclear bombs, like he just called it out, told it like it was fucking shredded. Steve Harvey shredding Cedric the entertainer. Oh my God, yeah, wow, he shredded everybody. He shredded Hollywood. He shredded, fucking Harvey Weinstein. He shredded, he shredded black like actors that well you know for roles that they were. Steve Harvey tried to steal his role and then you know it was just fucking dude. Wow, I gotta listen to. Absolute nuclear. It got five million, five million downloads the first day. Wow, five million, wow Downloads. It was insane when he said and you know, the dude ain't lying Like, he's just not lying right and he talks about how Steve Harvey stole. Oh, what's his name? Hang in with Mr Cooper. Oh, look him up. Yeah, hang in with Mr Cooper. I don't know how can I? I met the dude outside the comedy store in Hollywood one night. What the fuck is his name? He stole his jokes, he stole his Mark.
Speaker 3:Cooper, mark Murray, curry, curry, curry, curry.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, he stole his whole fucking hanging with Mr Cooper thing. He fucking, like my brother said, he kills Kevin Hart, fucking, just slips his throat, man, and then did he's calling, did he a homo, you know? It's just yeah, it's crazy, dude, you got to hear it.
Speaker 3:He was on. He was on Mark Marin too, and that was a great interview. He tells it like it is, man, he'll say anything, he doesn't sell out, he doesn't care, he just doesn't fucking care.
Speaker 1:And he says Bernie Mac. Bernie Mac is the, was the real, fucking King of Comedy. The only reason so you had. You had Bernie Mac, you had Cedric the entertainer, you had Curry.
Speaker 2:No, not Curry.
Speaker 1:No, not, not Curry, it's this other dude. And you had Steve Harvey in the movie the Kings of Comedy, right? Yeah, yeah, and the only reason Steve Harvey went on last right, because he's supposed to be the King of Comedy, is because it was his tour. Ah, it was his tour.
Speaker 3:I never found him funny. I never really well.
Speaker 1:And Cat Williams you got to listen to the interview, yeah yeah, I got to hear that. He fucking destroys.
Speaker 3:I like him. He's a great family feud host. He's awesome at that. That's his, you know. But I never liked his cut his stand up. I wasn't really into.
Speaker 1:That's why he never made hard. Who wants to listen to some country bumping booboo, booboo, booboo, can't even talk. Say it. Oh, I can kill them. Dude kills him. So yeah, listen to that podcast with your brother saying there you got to stop being normies.
Speaker 4:Norm.
Speaker 1:Norm no, not normies. I just people that aren't into real pop culture and listen to all that I know we're bored. I know, you know, so, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:So comedy shows might listen to NPR I'm boring. I listen to sweaty balls in all that stuff. So now we will talk about the winds in Idaho, the wind real fast today.
Speaker 1:You know I used to listen to fresh air when it was good and then I noticed here we go. No, no, no, Listen. I know you probably listen to it, but all of a sudden she started getting political and she, I started noticing she, this is back in the day, dude, we're talking the mid 2000s to you know, right before Obama and then during Obama.
Speaker 1:I noticed because I listen to it all the time I'm away from work and she started getting political and she started getting showing a leaning. She used to have just good interviews, it may be for ratings, even though she's on PR. I stopped listening to it. Wait, what was this?
Speaker 3:Scott, what was this?
Speaker 1:Oh, dude. So I posted this video the other day. I don't know, some people don't watch these, but it was from Boss Witch, from HR Puffin stuff, right, but it was the movie. It was a movie and Cass Elliott plays one of the witches in the movie. It's hilarious, right, cass Elliott.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So Martha Ray plays Boss Witch and when she comes into the castle they're like oh, boss Witch is coming, this little rat dressed in a fucking SS uniform with his handout right? No, yeah yeah. Boss Witch's hands in high elegance. Oh my God, it's so great.
Speaker 3:I would have thought I was watching Hogan's Heroes.
Speaker 1:You can't do that shit today. It was in a kid's show, it was a fucking kid's show.
Speaker 3:It's all my Facebook page. It's hilarious. I worked for a guy that little Nazi rat. I worked for a guy. Ironically his name was Dick and he was of German descent, but he was born here. He did look like Adolf Hitler, he really did. And he used to say I hate that Germans are always depicted in every show as Nazis. It burns my blood and I'm like well, you know what? World War II was a big thing, bugs Bunny.
Speaker 1:They would show Germans, you know, you know who looked exactly like fucking Hitler, mo Howard from the fucking three stooges.
Speaker 4:He had Hitler ving on and Charlie Chaplin. Yeah, absolutely. Charlie Chaplin had a little fewer mustache there, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Did Mark have that?
Speaker 1:Hitler ruined that. Look for everybody.
Speaker 4:Mark Mark had a.
Speaker 1:Hitler's look for everybody. Well the Hitler mustache it did.
Speaker 3:The Hitler mustache went from here to somewhere else on the body.
Speaker 1:There we go.
Speaker 3:Remember opium Anthony. Remember we're not talking about 1987 porn movies.
Speaker 1:No, opium Anthony. I'm just saying Okay and I'll end comedy concerts on this. I'm not a big fan of like. I wouldn't go to an arena to watch a comedian right. They're designed for small acquaintances.
Speaker 3:You got to hear the echo off the back wall. It's quieter, yeah, the clinking of the glasses.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just all the ambiance of being in a club. Now you can have a club with maybe a couple hundred people in there. That's fine, yeah, you know. But anything over that you start getting into theaters yeah, you know. And then arenas yeah Right, it's like I think it just loses the whole thing. Now I'll watch one on TV, like my brother's a Richard Pryor or Eddie Murphy raw. Like I watched it Because the camera's right up there.
Speaker 3:You see him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's funny you know, but I wouldn't go there. You know just, I don't know. It's just. They need to be in an intimate environment.
Speaker 3:That's what comedy clubs are designed for when I was a kid I used to go to my library Hillsdale library to get records out and I had this thing about stand up when I was under 10 years old, I don't know why. So I bought, I got out a Woody Allen album from the 60s when he was doing stand up and I remember I was like nine years old and I was laughing my ass off that. But I do remember when I'm listening to it you could hear the glasses. They're doing this stuff, yeah, and silverware, and that to me that's. That's New York, or, if you know, for you may be Boston, but it's a. It's a CD, comedy club, comedy store, whatever. That's where comedy really needs to be. Never was meant for big arenas, in my opinion.
Speaker 1:Right, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 4:Or the midnight special Just a Gallagher on the midnight special.
Speaker 1:I was going to do most. Let's you know what. Let's do it, let's do, let's do a couple of rounds and then maybe we can pick it up next week, because this, this could be a long conversation and I'm not really wanting to do a two and a half hour one tonight. I've had one of those days. I did too, Scott, you know that Well that's, I'm going to take care of you tonight, Mark. We're not going to, but let's, let's. Let's throw some notable albums that were basically career suicide albums.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, yes, I'll start off with in. Mark will appreciate this.
Speaker 4:I dropped a ball in this one.
Speaker 3:No, it was my idea. It was my idea.
Speaker 1:Then we'll wait till next week.
Speaker 4:We can do that, I couldn't, I couldn't think of anything off hand.
Speaker 1:Sometimes you got to do a little research. Professor.
Speaker 4:I do a lot of research. Yeah, he's a professor.
Speaker 3:Okay, let's school, let's school. You mean, it's not in your?
Speaker 1:fucking in that lot that encyclopedia.
Speaker 3:No, it's not my curriculum by Tay so I Say you and me rattles some albums in the professor comments on what he's commenting.
Speaker 1:He won't really have any comment on this one, though, but Uh, public enemy muse in our mess age 1994 was just like whoa, whoa, whoa. You go from fair of a black planet to. You know the enemy strikes back, apocalypse 91. And then you know, you get this fucking muse sick in our mess age. Like it's people like what the fuck was that? And it wasn't that good of an album, had like one good song on it.
Speaker 3:Was it like kind of hit? Was it more commercial, like they're trying to make something that would go on the charts? I don't remember that album.
Speaker 1:So this little blip says bob dillon's self-portrait may have said his career back five years, but muse sick in our glass mess age. All but destroyed. Public enemies presence in the music world.
Speaker 4:Yeah, wait, where'd that come?
Speaker 1:out 94 but rap was changing around that time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they were trying. They were trying to kill the message in the record industry. I heard a whole Thing recently on the on. The music industry got together and they wanted to kill that message, that black, because everything used to be black. You know red, black and green. You know what I mean, like Africa, and you know going back to the roots and power to the people, and you'll fight the power and all of a sudden, private prisons started getting, you know, made in these companies, like how we need prisoners.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they really, this is a true story. This guy went to a meeting of record executives and you had to sign a whole disclaimer, like you know, a no Talk clause, whatever those fucking things are called non-disclosure, and they said we need to change hip-hop, we need to make it more, you know, radical. It's too radical right now. As far as political, we need it to be nasty. We need, we need to change your mindset. Pose girls, that stuff guns, that's we. That's when gangster rap came out. It was you know what.
Speaker 3:They always considered kids would want to act out.
Speaker 1:See, I always considered public enemy in the 80s.
Speaker 3:That was a actually positive message. Yeah, in a lot of ways, because Chuck D he's not a Nate, he's a positive guy to this day, you know. Yeah, I mean he was pro black and he talked about you know the whole.
Speaker 1:You know, I think that the in the song shut down.
Speaker 2:What do you said?
Speaker 1:Nike, you know you're gonna shut them down. They take from the neighborhood, but they don't give back. Yeah, yeah. So who was meeting with the record executives? It was so this represents the other private.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so it's so. The record executives Were like owners of these record companies were investing in these private prisons.
Speaker 1:Oh, they're in the record company owners room. Okay, yeah, so they were like this nasty story.
Speaker 4:I think they're like the mindset here, right?
Speaker 1:So all of a sudden gangster rap started coming out guns and hos and bitches and drugs and.
Speaker 1:Making it cool, and they knew these kids would act out, right from the fucking black kids in the hood To the white kids in the suburbs. They were gonna act out and lo and behold, it started so well, this guy in another guy. They signed them on disclosure. But then when they heard what they were talking about this guy I was like what the fuck like he? He didn't name names because he can't, but he said well, I'm, I'm not gonna fucking do this. And him and another guy looked at each other like fucking. So they said these fucking security guys came and grabbed them and fucking shoved them out the door. Wow. And then somebody came out and said keep your mouth shut. You signed a nondisclosure, we were ruining you.
Speaker 1:And the dude said I goes, I stayed in the music industry for like a year and a half and the dude said I goes, I stayed in the music industry for like another five years and that was that I was done with it. But there was a whole thing behind gangster rap in private prisons.
Speaker 3:There's a link, yeah, so now let me ask you, scott. I ask you because when I talk about worst albums by fans saying how does that album hold up in retrospect? Does it still look weak in their catalog? Oh yeah, yeah, it's not like.
Speaker 1:Paul's boutique with the beastie boys. But no, this, that that's not. That's that album never even talked about.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, yeah, it's not even talked about.
Speaker 1:It's just, it's not bad, yep, you know, yeah, I think that. Yeah, it was just that. That was this, though. Yeah, then they never really did anything after that. Right, you know, never did anything give it up. Um, now, fear of a black planet. That was a good fucking album, classic. Yeah. By the time they get to Arizona is a great song, because Arizona was known for A lot of things. Well, they were the last state to recognize my MLK.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right, yeah, but we could talk a lot, so, all right. So you know what my brother shut? My brother shut the fuck up calling mcclain I said it because I'm all the way down. Hey, he gave he likes up in Boston. I can say that he's like P E Was one of my top 10 all time.
Speaker 1:This motherfucker, this, this dude. He used to dog the shit out of me For listening to the all the music I listened to and you know everything from. You know the 80s music into hip hop. Oh, it's all trash. Finally, finally, when he got old, he started okay, I think I you know because he heard about, about, he listened to it and he liked it. And he's this guy, he's this motherfucker. Okay, and we all know him. Lou, you know one or more mark, you know one or more, and I'm gonna use this as an example. I was listening to you too in like 1983, right 82, right around that time when they weren't even really popular, first album had come out and I will follow was kind of a you know was played, but what and this guy worked with, turned me on to it and I started letting. All of a sudden, I'd be listening to you too and I get and they come out with fucking, like you know, unforgettable fire and people like hey, you too. Then, you know, war comes out. No, it was war.
Speaker 1:Everyone's always done the fucking big you too fan. They're the biggest fans in the world. Oh, I love you too. Like where the fuck were you the test?
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, the test is do you like October? Because that's the mist, that's, yeah, you know, if you're a real fan, I love it's totally different sound than you too, boy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then war was a totally different sound. That was the beauty of you too. They changed their sound. They were smart enough to say we're not gonna get pigeonholed by one particular sound. So every album was different, right, which made them just that much better. Yeah, you'd, no one really noticed it, unless you were a real fan. But I noticed it right away the difference between October and boy. Oh totally different sounds right.
Speaker 3:Uh, boy was very songs, boy boy to me. When I think of boy, I think of the drums. It was a drum album. The drums are jarring, yeah, whereas October was almost the atmospheric album at times, which was kind of like what unforgettable fire was. Yeah, every album is different from them, my brother wrote yo yo back off og triple og.
Speaker 1:What the fuck, this motherfucker. And then he started telling me oh, I was listening to public enemy back in the night. No, no, no, call him clean you and not you and not. I'm telling you you don't know what he would say to me. He would dog me. Listen into that. Crap, wrap crap. Typical white boy response to wrap All right, african bambada. He says boom bada, african boom bada.
Speaker 4:I was a dog fan.
Speaker 1:He doesn't even know who african bambada is and what he means to the fucking history of rap in hip hop. He doesn't even know he likes planet rock, every white person in the suburbs if it wasn't fucking sugar hill gang Fucking, uh, you know, hip hop, hibby to the hibby to the hibby. Then, uh, that was the big fucking white boy song, right, oh, that that actually broke the suburbs and broke the suburbs. Right, it really sent rap into the stratosphere. Rap is the life.
Speaker 1:But then all of a sudden, dance music came around and yeah, let me see, let me see, let me see if it's this one. So I'll try with the one Right. Planet rock, yep, right, right, fucking white boys love that's. That's the only reason he knows african bambada. He doesn't even know who african bambada in the rest of the name of the group is.
Speaker 3:Right do you know, mark, you know what. Why don't you let him call in or why don't you get?
Speaker 1:him on the phone. Yes, it depends on his phone. Is what he's watching it on?
Speaker 3:so he's watching you know, and I'm not going to claim to be a scholar of you've schooled me on a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1:So you can tell me what the rest of this is. African bambada in the zulu nation. That was the name of the group african bambada was the dj african bambada in the zulu nation. He's saying he was an original fan. Get the fuck. He says yo yo back off, yo yo back off white boy.
Speaker 3:I think he's getting a goat, as we used to say back in frack ass motherfucker, now me. I've told you, scott, that.
Speaker 1:Oh, now he's talking about Wu Tang, although I did get him a Wu Tang clan jacket so he could try to be cool. But you know, I don't think he was.
Speaker 3:I think the ultimate hip-hop song that Reaching to the suburbs for me in new jersey was hit. Uh, jump up that like Hit wonder ever, because it was safe. They were white.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, right.
Speaker 3:Irish.
Speaker 2:Yeah right.
Speaker 3:The video was a bunch of people fucked up drinking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, on st Patrick's day, yeah, yeah in a bar. Yeah, it was fucking brilliant marketing.
Speaker 3:I've told you that. That I think I said before is that when I first heard Public enemy, what I loved about him was that I was a heavy metal fan, and it was back in the day. Heavy metal had passion.
Speaker 1:Not every tracks bring the noise.
Speaker 3:Oh well, no, no, I heard the fear of a blank planet and I said the black planet. Sorry, blank plant, that was porcupine tree. Um, and it was. To me it was the same as as like anthrax, whereas they really felt it it was, it was hard rock. To me it was like a driving beat. So that's the kind of I'm not into the west coast as much, but you kind of.
Speaker 1:I was on the west coast, so I was.
Speaker 3:I like the east coast hard driving, damn.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, totally, two totally different sounds. Yeah, yeah, but I liked it all. I liked it all, man, yeah, um, all right, yeah, let's, let's, where were we?
Speaker 3:oh, so uh album.
Speaker 1:So do you want me to bring up an album? That to yeah, yeah, bring up an album.
Speaker 3:Okay. So I have a criteria at three criteria an album that bombed, were the fans reaction justified? And, in retrospect, how does it hold up? So I'm going to come up with one of the all time best queen hot space Totally killed them in america. That album came out, died.
Speaker 3:Now, were the fans Justified and hating it? Yes, they went to r&b too quick. They shouldn't have done an album of a whole side of r&b music. It was right after the game. It was right after another one bites the dust. They were on top of the world. So the fans weren't justified not liking it.
Speaker 3:I understand it in retrospect, when you listen to it. It's a good album. It's got some really good stuff on it and, uh, they were ahead of their time. But again, don't piss off your fans. Don't take, don't be a one kind of a band and just go totally over. You're gonna lose your audience. You know they never toured the us after. That album never came back, you know. But I do like it. And new no bet and court from extreme says that was one of his favorite albums because it Taught him that you could have Hard rock, guitar and r&b mixed together. You know, yeah, and it did have one big hit under pressure, but it was nothing like the rest of the album. I hate that. So, oh, because of because of what's his name.
Speaker 1:Nah, I just I'm not. I mean, I was, I'm not a big queen fan, really.
Speaker 3:I am. It's more freddy than anything else. I just like freddy. Yeah he's a little bitch. I like them. You got any other terrible albums there?
Speaker 1:um Trying to make fucking computers. This I think it's just some of the.
Speaker 3:I think you need a better support team there. I gotta get a fucking reload. What the hell just happened here? You already screwed up your new laptop.
Speaker 1:No, it's fine. What about lulu? All right 2011 Lou Reed and metallica you know what? Metallica takes the hit on that one.
Speaker 3:I'll base my my criteria. The fans had a lot right to hate it. If you're a metallica fan, you don't want to hear that shit. I think down the road it may get like Lou Reed just did whatever the fuck he wanted. So in Lou Reed's catalog it may hold up better you know, yeah, we're, you're that, come on 2011.
Speaker 4:What did the critics say?
Speaker 1:Uh, let's see what's the what's the little. Uh, take it. It's tough putting this album above other career suicide albums that have more history on their side. See holes, celebrity skin in goth Brooks Chris Gaines vanity project. But the volume of toxic pre-release publicity surrounding lulu Automatically qualifies this as a top 10 entry.
Speaker 1:From the beginning, music writers and more than a few metallica and lou reed fans Bought at how nothing positive could come out of such a pairing. But just like excessively negative reviews can make movies like Batman and Robin and Catwoman Essential viewing for movie buffs, lulu became a must listen event in its own right. Indeed, lulu represented one of those ram moments that brought in people from all different musical backgrounds. You may not have picked up the album, but chances are if you have a velvet underground or metallica record in your collection. The element of curiosity made you at least give one of the songs a listen. One of lulu's most notable Accomplishments was how it gave some rock critics notoriety just because he or she wrote positively about the album. And for all the talk about how lulu was destined to be one of every critic's worst of list in 2011, the album the album actually placed higher than such well received release cut like uh copies, zone Zona scope and lucinda williams, blessed in 2000.
Speaker 3:You know why? Because when metallica put anything out, it sells, initially it's going to sell like hotcakes you know um. But metallica fans, I I've got tired of metallica because I I kind of like. My thing on metallica is they they put themselves in a box. They're not led zeppelin. Led zeppelin did acoustic. They did all different kinds of music, you know. So metallica have to do this hard driving music.
Speaker 3:I think they were just trying to look for something different and their fans don't like it you know, so until they're 70 years old, they kind of do this Do-ka-do-ka-do, and I got you know I'm tired of it too, but as I'm gonna tell, if you like that, if that's what you like, you would hate lulu, you would be like what the hell is this? You?
Speaker 1:know, yeah, yeah, all right, I'm gonna move on to you. Make the call. Great, I get 10 of them. Awesome, all right, lulu. All right, mark Lou gets the first pick on this one. Lulu, you make the call better song? You know what I mean by better song. Don't be like jack and go well, it's all perspective. Blah, blah, blah. What song do you think is a better song?
Speaker 3:By the way, your, your brother, just made the statement of the night. He's right metallica overrated.
Speaker 1:He's a fucking lunatic. No, he's right. No, he's not. There's no way metallica is overrated.
Speaker 3:Listen to one, the fuck yeah, that's great, that's great, that's great You're fucking masterpiece. If they were overrated.
Speaker 1:Overrated bands don't create masterpieces. You know, they just know.
Speaker 3:And they lost it. They just lost it, well as they get older.
Speaker 1:They're heavy metal. I mean, how long can you? I mean, once they cut their hair. You saw like uh oh.
Speaker 3:I quit the band and went to therapy, but I'm gonna sing you know some kind of monster, hey callin if you've never seen.
Speaker 4:Great movie. Uh, I've seen that.
Speaker 1:If you've never seen the documentary, you might have a different take on metallica. Uh see, watch some kind of monster.
Speaker 3:It's a fucking great Documentary ironically right there in the moment. Ironically, it was about the recording of probably their worst album, st Anger.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's my favorite metallica song. Well, one is my favorite metallica song, but st Anger. I love that fucking song.
Speaker 4:That is a good song. That's a fucking grinder right there man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's just a grinder.
Speaker 4:All right, you make that movie's 20 years old.
Speaker 1:I know right, jesus, uh, you make the call Lou better song Baker street, or stuck in the middle with you. Stuck in the street or stuck in the middle with you. Yes, I'm stuck in.
Speaker 4:My personal preference is stuck in the middle.
Speaker 1:All right, instead of the fuck, does this mean it's gonna text or someone? Oh, oh okay, hold on right. In the middle of the podcast I get a text from a fucking photographer. Uh, can I come at 1245? Yes, sure, I'm getting interviewed by a magazine.
Speaker 4:Another Max bucks 20 max bucks 20 is over. Yeah, highly highly, dave yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they are overrated. Uh so, Lou, what do you say?
Speaker 4:I said um stuck in the middle All right stuck in the middle mark.
Speaker 3:How can you not, how can you deny that haunting sex?
Speaker 4:I don't, I don't deny it, I don't know yeah.
Speaker 3:I like Baker street.
Speaker 1:I guess I'm the tiebreaker here and that is see, I put these together and I'm like even I say this is a tough one and I never some of these, I don't know which way they're gonna go. Um, I gotta go Baker street. Yeah, haunting ha, but it's a fucking hard. That's a hard pick.
Speaker 3:Did you ever hear that song in a big old house echoing from another room? That's what I remember my sister playing it upstairs, hot summer day.
Speaker 4:I'm walking up the summer of 78.
Speaker 3:Oh god I hear that echoing, I sense my memories, you know.
Speaker 4:I do think stuck in the middle has more, will have more longevity, I think. I don't know, I do think in in that three minute format. I think it's a really really good and unique.
Speaker 1:It's a great song, yeah, the argument.
Speaker 4:They both are, but yeah perfect, I'll argue with you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, all right, let's go with. Uh, you make mark.
Speaker 4:You're a fucking idiot. You know that Screw you. I call mark an idiot. Oh, go eat a cannoli.
Speaker 1:Stuck easy. Iconic reservoir dogs. Yeah, that's.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I can't see yeah, yeah, um, okay, mark, you make the call Super tramp. Addition Okay, goodbye, stranger. Well, give a little bit.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna go with give a little bit, because it's got that acoustic strumming which I'm a sucker for, like randy jackson, zebra and all that. So, yeah, give a little bit, I'm going with that.
Speaker 4:Lou, goodbye, stranger.
Speaker 1:I'm the tiebreaker again. I have to go with Again. These are hard for me too.
Speaker 2:That's why I put them together.
Speaker 1:Uh, I gotta go. Goodbye, stranger Great song.
Speaker 4:It's just I again hot the intro.
Speaker 1:There's no real wrong answer yeah, really.
Speaker 4:Give a little bit. No, there's not, there's not.
Speaker 3:You know, give a little bit is a roger hodson song, because he was a guitar, he played the guitars right and uh. The other song is more the. What's his name? The keyboardist, you know. So yeah, he's called the other guy the other guy. I forgot his name.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the other guy rick rick davies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, uh. All right, luke, you make the call. This is kind of uh, this is uh, these are kind of totally different songs. All right, lou, you make the call. Talking heads take me to the river or the cars, just when I need it.
Speaker 4:I'm not talking. Hits man Max pouring his fucking yellow dove wine, yellow, yellow.
Speaker 1:Yellow and you gotta love this. I'm putting it back in my cooler bag on top on top of my shop right ice packs that cost 99 cents each.
Speaker 3:Maybe I don't deserve this apartment. Maybe I really gotta leave. He's talking about yellow belly.
Speaker 4:I would have a wine cooler fridge up here, oh Jesus, and if I keep this, apartment.
Speaker 3:I will get that Anyway. Um, take me to the river talking heads, or just what I needed. The cars.
Speaker 1:You know what Lou said? Just what I needed. Just what I needed. Circuit City made me hate that song.
Speaker 3:It was just like I heard it every two, and I hate a song in an ad.
Speaker 2:It's not the cars fault.
Speaker 3:So I'm gonna say, take me to the river because I do like the way David Byrne sings it.
Speaker 1:It's bass, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:And the drum reverb. Yeah, I gotta go.
Speaker 1:and take me to the river. It's just such a unique hey, listen again. No wrong answer. Just what I needed is a great song.
Speaker 3:I was remember we talked with Jack on that one show. Which album better? The first album and Candio. I still like Candio better, but I listened to the first album the other night and I yeah, I shouldn't hate on it because I was just sick of hearing those songs, but it's a great album. What a great first album.
Speaker 1:Alright, mark, you start. It's your turn. Right, yeah, alright, you make the call Rolling Stones edition. You make the call Mark. Okay, emotional rescue or miss you.
Speaker 3:That's an interesting one. I think emotional rescue is more trashy and it's a. It's a for bringer of kinds of music that were to come. I don't know. I'm gonna go with emotional rescue. I love that Fine.
Speaker 1:Arab.
Speaker 4:It's dreaming. It's dreaming. It's a weird song, it's a really weird song you would be mine.
Speaker 1:You know what I used to do when I saw Armadere again.
Speaker 3:I always, whenever I hear you will be mine, I think about Armadere again, the president of Atlantic saying that.
Speaker 1:Imagine looking at a girl and saying I will be your night In shining. I'm gonna say that to Dr Varit tonight Before we go to bed In the creepiest big, jagged voice I can.
Speaker 3:You may be out of the house to loom.
Speaker 4:Well, I really like emotional rescue. For the oddity of it, I'm gonna go with miss you. I think it's an overall better written song. Also, at that time that was the Stones going disco.
Speaker 2:Yeah. A lot of bands are disco they went, but you know but they did it.
Speaker 4:But they did it great.
Speaker 1:They did it good. It's a crash.
Speaker 4:I do think it's one of their classic songs, though, and you know it's not their greatest period either. You know some girls are some girls.
Speaker 1:It's like the last great record they were they were tattoo. You was a great fucking album.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean that was what I like.
Speaker 1:It was a good album. That was a great album, yeah.
Speaker 3:But the some girls period was trashy and I have a DVD from that period, that concert tour. So Mick Jagger was hazing Ron Wood on that tour. He was grabbing the scratch and everything you know. They were truly trashy and I like it. So miss you is a trashy song. I get it, I love it, you know.
Speaker 4:I think it's, I mean just musically. I think it's a better song musically yeah. Although emotional rescue is very it's interesting. I mean the two interesting songs. But yeah.
Speaker 3:You know what's slightly disturbing about that? Some girls tour Charlie. Charlie Watts had like a buzz cut and he looked like a skinhead, like it was a really strange haircut and he looked angry, you know, and that that tour, yeah, I have to go with.
Speaker 1:I gotta go with fuck. I love emotional rescue, has good memories, but so does miss you. I mean, yeah, it's a fucking tough one too. I guess I gotta go with emotional rescue, it's just, it's. I don't know, I just I'm just for some reason I just gotta go with that. Maybe I can't say better memories, because they both have unique memories in my head.
Speaker 3:How do you think Casey Casey's? The first time I heard it I had my little AM radio that looked like a Coca-Cola can and I hear Casey Casey today and I see Casey Casey, I'm gone. And tonight on number five is emotional rescue and you can imagine, casey Casey, I'm going. What the hell is this? Yeah?
Speaker 1:Alright, lou, you make the call. Tom Petty edition you make the call. Don't do me like that. Hmm, or I need to know. Talk on the street says you may go solo.
Speaker 4:Oh, I gotta say I have to go for Centim. They're both two of my favorite songs. I mean I'm going for sentimental reasons because I learned how to play drums to that song, so don't do me like that, don't do me like that. Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's alright. Alright, mark.
Speaker 4:I like the role, I like the role in this of I need to know, I need to know. It's real simple it's not a, it's not a masterpiece.
Speaker 3:I need to know. It's a great driving song and I say driving, I mean a driving beat, but don't do me like that. The lyrics are great. Don't do me like that. I'm going to go with. Don't do me like that.
Speaker 1:I gotta go with I need to know. It's just more of a intense up, like you know, fast, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:What's that?
Speaker 1:line hey, the talk on the streets, as you may go solo. I just love that line.
Speaker 4:It's. You know it's funny. It's almost like a filler track in a lot of ways what I need to know it's not a throw away, but you know that's that wasn't a big hit, yeah.
Speaker 2:But it was a hit. It wasn't a hit, but it just wasn't a big hit.
Speaker 1:It's a great lot, a lot of radio play, right yeah.
Speaker 4:I think you got a fair amount yeah.
Speaker 1:Uh, alright, we got we got Perry getting involved there. Oh, I need to know it's great rollicking piano, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's right. We just kind of goes ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding ding. Yeah, thank you Perry. Thank you, perry. Um, I was praising you today, by the way, the AI, perry Denovic the AI. I was praising him to my brother in a conversation. So Perry thinks I ignore him. I think I think you think I ignore him, but I was talking to my brother earlier today on my way home from the farm and I was praising Perry again, once again for bringing you two to the forefront.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, you had you two on the show. Why?
Speaker 1:Get the Alright, moving on Alright let's see On those balls. Um, alright, mark your turn right. Yeah, you make the call. Ringo edition. Yeah, it don't come easy. Or photograph, oh god, you this photograph, alright, oh no, my brother called and said I think Perry is the mastermind. Oh, here we go.
Speaker 3:He is, as Mark would say, here we go. No, he is.
Speaker 1:Alright, mark, it don't come easy, or photograph.
Speaker 3:You know it don't come easy as a certified classic. We all love it. I love it, but to me the photograph appeals that chord progression is to me is better, and the melody of the lyrics flow when you hear it. It's one of those perfect songs. Like you're the air that I breathe, you know it just flows. So I'm going to go with photograph.
Speaker 4:Alright, lou, I'm going with photograph as well. Um, it don't come easy. It's a great song but, yeah, if photograph is, it's something, I don't think it. When you really like someone, you really listen to that song. Musically, yeah, it's a beautiful chord structure. Yeah, the way, the way it lifts up, you know, and even when he did it at the concert for George at the mic, it was really good and I've been playing that lately with my friend 300 feet down the road there. Um, he goes, you know, photograph, I ring go. I'm like, yeah, let's play it and that's a fun song to play, it's got a great groove.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know I might have. I wouldn't have said that 10 years ago.
Speaker 3:I would have said yeah, yeah, same here.
Speaker 4:It's just, it's a great rock, great rock and roll song. Yeah, um yeah.
Speaker 1:Um.
Speaker 3:I'll pick the Def Leppard song photograph.
Speaker 1:And hey, perry, that ever said George wrote both of them. Yeah, he's right, they're both sort of he said sort of he was, george got involved in a lot of shit, yeah, where they were clapped and it would ring, go like he was kind of like in there you know Movie production yeah. Movie production I have to go with. I love photograph but I think I I like it don't come easy.
Speaker 3:The intro, I think cuz, I just don't hear it that much.
Speaker 4:Really.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:The intro. The intro that don't come easy is a classic. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's a good point. That's a great intro. I yeah, I just think I like that one better.
Speaker 4:The beginning has a classic ring go film. He goes. He goes from floor tom tom to. He does a left handed guy thing. Yeah, I heard the other day because it goes up in pitch.
Speaker 1:but most yeah To it, don't come easy, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, lou, you make the call Paul Simon edition, paul Simon edition. You make the call Love me like a rock or a coda chrome. She love me, love me, love me, yeah, when I was a little boy was a little boy.
Speaker 4:It's in great vocals on there Right Um, right now I'm going with love me like a rock, mark.
Speaker 3:Well, throwing up, I had a forty five box, just like you, and my introduction Paul Simon was go to chrome and I love the song then and I love it now, that first line, all the crap I learned in high school. When I think back to all the crap I learned in high school, I heard that when I was in Zion Lutheran school in sixth grade, saying, ah shit, I'm going to learn crap in high school. But yeah, I got to go with coda chrome, I just got to.
Speaker 1:I got to go with coda chrome too for that line, and plus, my father was a photographer and so oh yeah, all the little references to cameras and and film and all that shit, me and my brothers just threw osmosis. It's by being around it we heard all the terminologies you know and it just reminds me of my father when I hit coda chrome this. So it was the 70s and that's when the shit started changing. Film started really changing and yeah, you know, uh, it's I.
Speaker 3:Just, I like coda chrome better again, no wrong answer here, and who the hell would put out a single with us with the title coda chrome right, yeah, that's, that's a yeah that's and write a song about fucking film, right, and then incorporate it like kind of weave it into a story, yeah, about his life as he goes along.
Speaker 4:You know, let me like a rock. If you listen, it's a real gospel song a lot of ways it is yeah, the the back. You know the vocal arrangement is really cool, but I heard it recently and I like it's.
Speaker 1:It's been a while and I'm like it's really, really, really cool, it aged well.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think they both have really, and let me just say this, coda chrome to me and my youth is very similar to listen to what the man said.
Speaker 1:Very similar sound like brother says both beta boys, yeah, yeah, yeah, go listen to african boom bada really yeah african boom bots. Yeah, go listen to chuck b better boy africa gugatsa yeah africa, gugatsa. All right, mark okay you make the call. Another opposite side of the spectrum choice. All right, mark. You make the call rambling man or goodbye, yellow brick road, both tell good stories.
Speaker 3:Rambling man for years was a. It still is one of my favorite songs. But goodbye yellow brick road hits me and gives me goosebumps in a way that rambling man never will. I'm easy one for me, I'm gonna go with goodbye yellow brick road, just a fucking great song all right, lu rambling man yeah okay, it proved it proved that the old man brothers were more than greg olemann.
Speaker 4:Yes, that's, it's dicky bets is one of his, his shining moment really it was his first big shining moment that was their first southern rocking sounding song right as far as that, straight ahead, like a southern rock maybe. Um, yeah, I'll say that I think goodbye, like I'm kind of burnt on it but all right rambling, I just my brother's an almond brother's fan.
Speaker 1:He said rambling man was a sellout song. I think they needed a radio hit you.
Speaker 4:Well, I don't know how you sell albums I don't know if it was calculator or not, but it sounds pretty natural.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think it was dicky bets. Just finally, with dwayne gone, he kind of got more power in the band and because he's a southern guy, he does the southern rock sound yeah yeah, my bottom tv just went behind me. If I could did, what's going on with you tonight?
Speaker 1:you dropping out, yeah I'm gonna have to go with. Goodbye yellow brick road. I just think it's more of a a bigger song. I think it's just, it's an iconic song and you just never, really, I never really get sick of it I in the right mood, I'll cry over it.
Speaker 3:It's just one of his best. Elton johns best songs you don't, you don't really have to go.
Speaker 1:All I do cry, scott I cry scott I cry you also.
Speaker 4:I don't cry when rebel. That's right, like baseball. Then you got this I'm mark smith. I listen to yellow brick road and I cry boo-hoo fucking I love the yellow brick road the lollipop kids the lollipop we are the lollipop
Speaker 1:kids moving on, moving on. Uh, lou, these it's a couple of am hits here. Buddy, you make the call am hits edition ozak, mountain, dead devils, jackie blue. Well, climax blues band couldn't get it right. New york city took before rise ozak mountain.
Speaker 4:Dead devils, jackie blue that jackie blue. I like that sound it's. I like the warm sound.
Speaker 1:I like the story behind it yeah mark couldn't get it right, don't you have to think about it.
Speaker 3:Love them both. But jackie blue had that r&b hook, the just uh great song andy johns of who fame produce a glint johns, glint john. Sorry, but yeah, I gotta go with that jackie blue he told him that was a hit.
Speaker 4:They're like get out of there and there were. They were like a country rock band there were yeah, there, yeah, that was, that was there were all those ozaks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's like this yeah I have to go with those ozaks I have to go with jackie blue.
Speaker 1:I think that's the first clean sweep so far what a hook, what a hook, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Another one that sounded good to my am coca-cola can radio and the drug.
Speaker 4:All right, let's sing it was it lou?
Speaker 1:whose turn is it mark, mark, mark, you get the last one, okay. Opposite side of the spectrum edition. Once again, mark you make the call. Pressure roxy music. Love is the drug or bob. Seager night moves this is so cruel so fucking cruel because I'm
Speaker 3:biggest I'm the biggest roxy music fan. I love roxy music but no, bob seager, that song is haunting night moves. You know what? Woke up last night to the sound of thunder. That lyric gives me goosebumps, oh god yeah, I'm going night moves do you cry, mark?
Speaker 2:no you know, don't you cry no, I go I woke last night to the sound of thunder no, yeah, I go like this thunder, thunder struck.
Speaker 3:All right, which one do you like?
Speaker 4:the night moves, that night moves, all right, lou just talking about this song with my son last night, no surprise to find out he's a fan. It's night moves. Uh, that's a. That's a tough one, because I'm not a big bob. I'm not a big bob seager fan, but I haven't liked that album and I haven't really liked that song I like, love I like love is a drug too, but something about it's I don't know I've heard it for a while, but I don't know.
Speaker 3:But that's, that's essence I do like the mood.
Speaker 4:I I said a lot of my shirts. They were sentimental, like the mood and night moves I'm not gonna cry.
Speaker 3:That's the essence of bob seager. To me, his night moves. One of his the songs that.
Speaker 1:That best describes him that was his best album yeah love is the drug and I need to score of course you like rather that is classic there and it's like that quick listen, you hear the right well I hit that, that, that that I just love that song great never get sick of it I love night moves to no wrong answer here again. Yeah, no wrong answer. Yeah, it's all personal all right, so this is a new part of the show. You make the call right. I love it I love it, it's, it's.
Speaker 1:It's a little difficult picking these things, it is. Uh, my brother, callin, says any song you can dance to is out because he only has one leg.
Speaker 3:Oh, oh, that's horrible. Oh my god, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on hold on lose cringe and lose.
Speaker 4:It's like I said, if you air drum to deaf, leper news and two arms, you're an asshole boys, did you hear, did you guys hear, what scott said?
Speaker 3:he's a fucking.
Speaker 1:Oh, my mic's open, okay hot mic, hot mic tough man you fuck around with the rhino, you get the horn mother I am never playing basketball with you, that's for sure yeah, I don't care if you're an amputee at night. I'm knocking down.
Speaker 3:I'll take you to the hall, buddy that is true, brotherly love, that really is africans boom, bada, what the fuck I have a question for calling.
Speaker 4:What was your last pick on the last question?
Speaker 1:roxy music above seager yeah, yeah, yeah, calling McLean associate producer I don't think you could.
Speaker 4:You could dance through. Love is a drug right love is the drug you can't dance, come on.
Speaker 3:There's a 12 second delay, so it's I know people that would dance the night moves. You do that slow dance yeah, remember there was a time when everyone dance only there was a time when everyone danced to rock music.
Speaker 1:I remember, you know see, like you, like seager? Yeah, only because I fucking made fun of them, because you know see groom all right, oh, seager, we're gonna do this. I'm gonna do the whole thing, this we might we're on a roll. It is pretty good cat 12 um mark you gotta keep. You got a pen in front of your pen and pad of paper yeah, all right this is called the last.
Speaker 1:The last segment was called you make the call. This segment is called you make the band. Okay. So I'm gonna start off with mark, okay, and then the next question will go to lou, and then the next one to me, and then the last one back to mark, and then next week we'll do it. Lou starts, so mark will get two picks. All right, we're gonna put together our own, say superstar band, right, yeah? So I have three drummers and I'm gonna name the drummers and mark you pick, and then lou you pick, and I'm I have the leftover all right, second slobby's yes all right, so you make the band and you have to write down the, the pick that you turn yeah, mark's gonna write
Speaker 3:them down. I'm keeping score I'm keeping score all right, here are the drummers.
Speaker 1:Here are the drummers mark yeah, alex van halen, tommy lee. Now I didn't go with the regular like neil pierre, john bonham or Keith moon. I kind of with these I went a little out of the box, a little deeper in. Uh. So alex van halen, tommy lee, or lazowrick mark, pick a draw. I'm going with alex van halen, mark you all right, that's when you get the first pick in the draft. Hey, it's like a draft pick yeah, lou fucking leigh tommy lee tommy lee
Speaker 3:I wrote down big dick. Okay, I'll take lazowrick okay, you have to get, get, get, get.
Speaker 1:Shut the fuck up. You get the last pick down, all right, lou bass player. Bass player. Flea from the red hot chili peppers he is a flea robert truhillo from metallica or lemmy from moadhead flea, flea right in the circus, okay I gotta go with that fucking raw, just that raw, unique sound that lemmy.
Speaker 1:Lemmy played the bass like he said it, like an electric guitar, like a league guitar with no tops, two strings. That's what he said. He created his own sound. He was actually a rhythm guitar player at first and he moved to bass.
Speaker 4:So I gotta go with lemmy, okay, and so that I'm thinking that tommy, lee and flea were pretty bad rhythm section. What's that?
Speaker 1:I go ahead I think that would work.
Speaker 4:Tom and lee and flea bass and drums.
Speaker 1:Respect I don't fucking both really good at what they do tom lee's a steady drummer. You'll see, it'll all pull together, your band will pull together and then you make a decision. So that leaves you at robert truhillo, truhillo. Okay, I love them great bassist, great bassist now I got league guitar.
Speaker 1:I get league guitar first pick. The choices are billy gibbons, joe walsh or joe perry for league guitar. I gotta go with my man, billy gibbons. I just think he's more talented, he has more skills. That's just my pick. So billy gibbons is my league guitars. I were picking too. Uh, mark, who are my two picks? Joe walsh or joe perry?
Speaker 3:I'm gonna go with joe walsh, all right, why, I don't know, but I just and that leaves.
Speaker 1:How are you for?
Speaker 3:lose band. I.
Speaker 1:I love joe perry but, it all right, lead singers, and this is this is frontman stuff too. You know, like this is frontman stuff oh mark you talking.
Speaker 3:Puppy shirts, puppy shirts please wait, do you want me to whatever they want?
Speaker 1:to wear. They're the lead. They're the lead man.
Speaker 3:I take my shirt off. I'll be like that seinfeld episode. Oh dad, no, all right all right.
Speaker 1:Lead singer iggy pop pop chris cornell or henry ralands.
Speaker 3:I, henry fucking Rollins, I love him, I fucking love him. That was a no-brainer.
Speaker 1:Lou, iggy Pop or Chris Cornell. Oh, I got my man. I Would have picked Chris Cornell first and worked out for me. Yeah, it's good when you fall to third. If it lands right in your lap, all right.
Speaker 3:So do we have a bonus of a zither player?
Speaker 1:is there a keyboard player? No, no, no. This is the basics of a band, right? Name a famous name a fucking like legendary. A fucking, what do you call it? Not Lee guitar, but you have the rhythm, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:I love your rhythm guitar, malcolm, young one, john, john Lennon.
Speaker 3:Rudolph's, rudolph shanker. Yeah, oh, ron, keith Richards, right yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, well, all right, we're keeping those down. It's lose picks. I'll put those three down. Wait.
Speaker 2:Wait, what are we?
Speaker 4:doing for rhythm guitarist. Oh, I thought that was just conjecture.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's conjecture, Okay, so give us the band, all right.
Speaker 3:So you want to lose your bed. The quartet. So my quartet is Alex van Halen, rob Trujillo, joe Walsh and Henry Rollins. Reason that band would never work is Alex has never played with anybody except his brother. Probably really you know.
Speaker 1:But he's a great drummer. I mean drum, is they they?
Speaker 3:Yeah, but somehow I think that Joe Walsh he could fit in with any fucking band. I think Joe Walsh could fit in with Metallica. So I it would be weird, but it would work, and Henry Rollins he would figure out right front then yeah.
Speaker 1:Black flag right, yeah, lou, who's lose band? Lou's got Tommy.
Speaker 4:Tommy Leon drums, flea on bass, mm-hmm. Joe Perry guitar and Iggy pop on vocals.
Speaker 2:That's a solid.
Speaker 4:It's a good band.
Speaker 1:That's a pretty solid lineup, I think.
Speaker 3:Iggy would just like riffle rough all of them.
Speaker 1:Iggy would just be Iggy.
Speaker 4:I don't think it was nada, you know I think, you know, I think it'd be pretty, pretty rough, pretty punky.
Speaker 3:And then I got who, all right, so you got on drums. Oh, let me, could you keep it down? Yeah, I don't want anybody yeah. Lemmy, I fuck you, billy Gibbons Just gonna play, that's a pretty cool. And Chris Cornell, I want to say that would be it actually Billy Gibbons. I could see lemmy, billy Gibbons. Lars would have to tone it down. He wouldn't be able to do his.
Speaker 1:But he's a professional.
Speaker 3:He would.
Speaker 1:He is, look who he's sitting with, if he's in that band. If he's in that band, yeah, those two guys in front of him.
Speaker 4:He's not acting up his basic skills would come in handy. And he's not a, you know, he could just lay a beat down. So I mean, you think of it. You're right, lou. You're right, he was giving me shredding all over the place.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if anything, lars proved on, like the black album, that he could also play basic rock.
Speaker 4:He didn't have to do fast. Yeah, yeah, that's interesting bands.
Speaker 1:That's pretty cool, pretty cool Right.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, well, I may be willing to cooperate it.
Speaker 3:That is a great segment.
Speaker 1:Yeah I gotta. I'm gonna have to do a lot of digging. And it might be some obscurity people coming down the road.
Speaker 3:So oh, I love it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, you know what let's get to this week? We picked 1887 for movie. So, uh, we're gonna do the top 10 this week in 1987 singles. Our number 10 this week in 1987 victory by cool in the gang. Number nine this week in 1987 in the singles charts is this love survivor. Number eight this week in the singles charts in 1987 change of hot, cindy Lapa, she was starting to kind of fade. Yeah, number seven this week in 1987 on the singles charts someday by glass tiger. That was a fun, that was a nice little hit.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that was someday. What was her big hit?
Speaker 1:glass tiger.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I forget how it goes.
Speaker 4:I don't forget, yeah, yeah don't forget anyone I'm going.
Speaker 1:Yeah Uh, number six this week in 1987 Land of confusion, genesis yes, video of the year, the whole thing. Yeah, uh, number five this week in 1987 Control, jennet jackson. Oh jackson, if you're nasty, oh great. Uh, number four this week in 1987. I actually wanted for a bed of songs. Open your heart by Madonna, good song. Yep Uh, number three this week in 1987 on the singles charts shake you down, gregory abbott. I love that song.
Speaker 3:I love this song. Uh, number two this week, well, well.
Speaker 1:In 1987 on the singles charts. I actually really like this song. Say la vie by robbie neville.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Say la vie. Is he ever way it goes? I thought he was. I thought he was part of the neville brothers and I saw his picture and I got no peace on part of the.
Speaker 1:And number one this week on the singles charts in 1987. It was a re-release at this moment by billy vera in the beaters he was.
Speaker 4:He was big for five minutes, yeah, but you know his mother's.
Speaker 3:He had a. It was an all-star band, lou, and he had just skunk backster in the band.
Speaker 4:Yeah, his mother is a very famous old actress.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, all right, let's see how it matches up with the album charts. The top 10 albums this week in 1987 Uh, number 10 control jennet jackson. There you go, uh, number nine this week in the album charts in 1987. Dancing on the ceiling lionel richie. Oh, hated him back then. Number eight this week in on the album charts in 1987. This is a big one. This was a big one for Huey Lewis in the news.
Speaker 4:Oh, it's an album.
Speaker 1:Yeah, number seven this week on the album charts. In 1987 true blue Madonna, very toned down Madonna. I believe in that.
Speaker 3:I love that album. That was one of the first cds that I bought.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, uh, number six this week in 1987 on the album charts night songs Cinderella.
Speaker 3:You know what? You know what worst song on the album? Because that album was good. Cozy power Trade played drums on that album. That was a good album.
Speaker 4:He needed money. That's not. That's not. How much money did he?
Speaker 3:need. Cinderella were better than you think. They were a good band, but that song I don't think you know that convinced me.
Speaker 1:All right, let's see number five this week on the album charts in 1987. This was a big hit. This year, the way it is, bruce horns be in the range. What a kind of a come and go that was a great song to hear. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4:That was weird. That wasn't almost different when it came out, because you know there's a lot of hard rock, you know banjovi and the hair metal, and then he had this Piano kind of thing. You know.
Speaker 1:So this is what I don't get. How does it number five on the album charts but it there's not a hit, not a single on it, in the top 10 of the single?
Speaker 3:because, because people like the whole album.
Speaker 1:It was a different kind of fan like they think it was probably a different way to chart them single. Number four this week in the album charts in 1987, different light by the bangles. Number three this week on the album charts in 1987, the year I went into the air force. A third stage by Boston.
Speaker 3:I love that album. I love that and I saw them, saw them do the whole thing at metal and serena. That was a that was a good album.
Speaker 1:Let's see number two this week. I actually have this box set number two this week on the album charts. In 1987 I think I picked this up for like ten dollars, like ten dollars. Bruce Springsteen, the east street band, live 75 to 85 still got my vinyl yeah. I think I got it literally for like 10 bucks.
Speaker 3:Lou, I got mine from music merchant John Schley. Peck had his first midnight opening for that one.
Speaker 1:Yeah number one.
Speaker 2:This week on the album charts in 1987.
Speaker 1:Jesus, slippery when wet bunjovi oh.
Speaker 3:Wait, let me be an english soccer fan. Let's see it's going this way you know what the one song off that album was, my high school senior class song uh, never say goodbye.
Speaker 1:That was there that we adopted it anyway, hey, time for this day in music.
Speaker 2:Yay.
Speaker 1:All right, let's see. Uh, shit that hurts on this day in. There's nothing so far. Uh, on this day in 2014, susan Boyle applied for a minimum wage six pound an hour cashier's job After spotting a job advert in the window of her local bookmaker, lad brokers in blackburn, west Lothian. Upon reading the advert, the singer, who was said to be worth over 20 million pounds, now entered the premise and spent five minutes talking to the shops deputy manager, david core, about the role. So evidently she was rich, but she still wanted to work. Huh, because that she had already done the american idol thing right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Uh, let's see, I want to see how the other half lives.
Speaker 1:Oh, was that? Was that britain's got talent? Which one was it? Yeah, I had to have been britain's cut British idol or something like that. Yeah, uh, let's see British season. I think there's not really much going on. That looks like, uh. On this day in 2004, bar dylan was paid by ladies underwear company victoria's secret To fly to venice in northern italy to film a tv advertisement in an ancient palazzo With a scantily dressed model. Some fans were upset, while others empathized with dylan.
Speaker 3:I think you look good in your undies.
Speaker 4:Creepy old man how much was he paid?
Speaker 1:Uh, didn't say A lot of money, a lot. On this day in 2003, after a raft of grammy nominations, I'm going to add this the beautiful norah jones debut album come away with me, fucking great album went to number one in the us Shot 11 months after it was released, staying at the top for three weeks. The album won Grammy awards for album of the year. The best pop vocal album, best engineered album, non classical Uh the song, don't you know why. One song of the year. Record of the year, best female pop vocal Performance I remember the picture for a hold in like eight grammy's. Wow, yeah, the album has uh. The album is sold over 27 million copies worldwide as of 2016, so I'm sure that's over 30 million now, making it one of the best selling albums of all time, and that's like one of those rare like they hit fucking lightning in the bottle and it's just that she'll never match that again.
Speaker 4:No, they said the timing had a lot to do with post 9 11.
Speaker 1:Where oh really yeah.
Speaker 4:Well, you know, it was just you know every one of the chill out and just you know Feel coming. You know it's a very comfortable sounding record, very soothing.
Speaker 1:You know something about norah jones. She has a nice mouth. I love, is she an?
Speaker 4:error parent. Is she the error parent?
Speaker 1:No, no, cheryl crow still has, I think, number two.
Speaker 4:I don't get that man. I just I don't know what you're talking about no better than anybody else is. I don't.
Speaker 2:I Don't please I don't know what you got. There's no wrong answer here.
Speaker 3:Don't pick on my norah norah.
Speaker 1:I'm picking on her. Norah is and I.
Speaker 3:She is just, is a nice mouth and every album she does is different.
Speaker 1:I'm this day. In 1992, the inaugural big day out festival took place at the horde and pavilion in sydney. Acts appearing included navana, beasts of burden, boxed, the Jesuits, celebit rifles, cosmic psychos, the clouds club, hoi died, pretty falling boys, the hard-ons with Henry Rollins, hell men, mass appeal, the meanies smudge sound. Ultimate posse rat cat, the village idiots, violent fems. And you threw, you did me. Yeah, okay, how, the violent fems all at the bottom of that one. Ah, let's see. On this day in 1986. No, we did. Group aha, we're at number one in the uk with the sun always shines on tv. That was never hit in the united states.
Speaker 1:I only heard one song from them on this day in 1986, us manager albert grossman died of a hot attack while flying on Concord from new york to london. Oh yeah, he managed bob dillon from 62 to 70. Pido Paul and Mary they keep popping up Pido Paul and Mary. He died. I think Paul might have been the one.
Speaker 4:What's that? I think Paul might have been the pito. I don't know, sure, but oh, pito and Mary. Uh, he, he managed the band, uh, janice joplin, that dude was.
Speaker 1:I put that dude on the like facebook page. The other day. Happy birthday.
Speaker 3:Uh and Todd rungren grossman built the beardsville recording studio near woodstock in 69, I got tickets to see dog Todd rungren and angle would in a few months. Oh cool, he's great On this day in 1978, after changing their name from war saw.
Speaker 1:See, my brother doesn't know this and he said, by the way, whole bottle tonight smitty. Oh, by the way, this is for your brother, look, look where the level is Okay.
Speaker 4:Okay so Okay, that's on the second bottle.
Speaker 3:Yeah, mr, mr I won't, I won't show this one, but this one busted, no, no this one was down here.
Speaker 4:It was down below the label.
Speaker 1:Uh, let's see if it on my case Mr Big fan. Call him, claim Mr Big fan. He didn't know this and so he's not a fan. Uh, after changing their name from war saw, inspired by the song war saws up by David Bowie's low album joy division, made their live debut when they played at pips disco in Manchester, england. He'll go. I knew they would need that. Now you don't.
Speaker 1:On this day in 1975, the coppers went to number one in the us Singles shot with their version of the marvelettes 1961 hit. Please miss the postman. The song is notable as the first Motown song to reach the number one position on the billboard charts late in 1961. 1961. On this day in 1975, the last sunbury rock festival In victoria, australia, was held. The promoters who had made heavy losses, who had had heavy, who had made heavy losses, only paid deep purple ac Only paid deep purple. Ac dc was scheduled to play after deep purple, but a fight started on stage between road crews after purple set when they began packing up lights in the pa and denied ac dc use of them.
Speaker 4:Who then left?
Speaker 1:the festival site without playing at all. Wow, oh, this day in 1974.
Speaker 3:Yeah, fuck you, mate.
Speaker 1:Fuck you on this day in 1974, led Zeppelin appeared at the market square arena. Uh, let me see the set list included. Rock and roll over the hills and far away. The song made the same. The rain song. Cash me at 110. One ton song, no quarter trampled underfoot. Moby dick how many more times their way to heaven? Whole lot of love and black dog, oh my god those are epic concerts.
Speaker 3:They were like three hours.
Speaker 1:Yeah, tickets cost $8 and 50 cents.
Speaker 3:Wow, how dare they charge that much?
Speaker 1:On this day in 1973, david bowie finished a week of rehearsals at the royal ballroom, talking to him london For the forthcoming uk leg of his ziggie stardust tour. Bowie had already played dates in north america, in japan. The tour saw the singer playing a total of 182 dates. Um, let's see. On this day in 1967, the Beatles made the last minute remix of penny lane before the pressing of their next double, a single Strawberry fields and penny lane. Those are never on albums, were they? Yep right?
Speaker 4:Imagine that yeah being that good as.
Speaker 1:Long as we're originally intended for the forthcoming album sergeant petters. But they didn't make it. Uh, 1964, the Beatles scored their first number one bestseller in the us. When I want to hold your hand reached the top of the cash box magazine music chart. On this day in 1964, phil speckter appeared as a panelist on this week's uk tv show, jukebox jury. Wow. And finally, on this day in 1963, the rolling stones played at the ricky tiki club At the star and god of hotel, windsor, berkshire, uk. This is the first time the rolling stones, including charlie watson, bill wyman, played at this venue. All of the walls in the club were painted black and the lighting was made out of old ice cream tins.
Speaker 1:Wow, born on this day in 1981 nobody wore deodorant now Born on this day in 1981 alicia keys.
Speaker 1:Uh, let's see who else is there? Uh, gary tibbs. Yeah, who's worked with roxy music and he cocks from the beat. Robert finch, malcolm green, michael cotton, john kupa, clock, edda james, born of this day in 1938. Uh, stig anderson, producer of abba. Uh, and finally, born of this day in 1915. I always got to say the last guy. Oh, lady, folks, sing a song. Write a socialist act of poet, playwright and record producer, uwin mackall, who was the composer of the first time I ever I saw your face. Wow, for robert aflach in 71, never heard, which he won a grammy. He also composed dirty old town in 1949. That was made by the dubliners and the pokes mccall died on october 1989. He was the father of singer song. Write christy mccall, you know that yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, christy mccall, right, she sang on uh fairy tale new york with uh the pokes yeah, it all comes around yeah. And that's it, gentlemen, that's a show two hours 36 minutes and we cut some segments.
Speaker 2:He's gonna be a shorter one too.
Speaker 1:Yeah well, next, next. So we have to stop working these other things in, we have to kind of I think.
Speaker 3:I think it's time to get back to different segments. That's kind of cool. Keeps things fresh, yeah absolutely, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So, uh, next, next year, next week We'll be back to a year. We'll pick a year and, okay, then we'll jump into the. You make the call and then you make the band, and then you know whatever else, we got them. Sure, the years always take up a nice chunk of change.
Speaker 3:Have? Have you ever done 1984?
Speaker 1:I'll tell you right now I happen to have all the years that we've done, not that I've did them with um Jack too. So so far we have 67, 68, 70, 72, 75, 76, 77, 79, 85, 86, 87, 90, 91, 94.
Speaker 3:So 84 is my freshman year, do you?
Speaker 1:want to do this?
Speaker 4:Okay, 84, it is Just remind me albums and movies, or yeah, yeah, then we'll do movies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll do movies from 84, and then, uh yeah, albums. Talk about some albums from 84. Then we'll jump into the you make the call segments. Yeah and uh yeah, yeah, it's kind of you fucking making me work. Now, these things, those fucking you make the calls, honey. It can be so like one sided, I have to really seek through my whole library catalog songs.
Speaker 3:You got those writers back there just paying better. You know they're gonna do for you.
Speaker 1:They're fucking useless.
Speaker 4:They only look good, they don't say that.
Speaker 1:This motherfucker right here does more than them watch, watch Lou.
Speaker 3:We see iron man start to walk down.
Speaker 4:Yeah, any in papers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, iron man deactivate. Hey, there you go. Hey, tony, don't do that to me. Well, gentlemen, that's another show in the books. As usual, I want to thank you, Thank you, thank you for your time, for your knowledge and, most of all, for your friendships. Uh, it's truly, truly appreciated and I think you know it, but I'll always say it, no matter what, and I want to thank and thank you peri denovich.
Speaker 2:Thank you very the AI.
Speaker 1:I know I'm fucking thanking a robot, but you know yeah, and I see peri, he's actually, he's half a robot.
Speaker 4:He's actually, he's like, he's like nebula.
Speaker 1:I saw, I saw. I saw the microphone is a little lower now this week. It's not up here it's not like this, oh Harry down here Harry got me.
Speaker 3:He said mark, tommy Lee is a shit drummer, he just can't.
Speaker 1:One trick pony and you know it.
Speaker 3:He is a one trick pony, but he's steady, that's okay. He's steady, he's a drummer.
Speaker 4:We have to work on our new or lean show, music roller show. We're doing this Compiling some stuff about the music in New Orleans, you know, trying to coordinate with mardi gras, but it's coming up. Yeah, that'll be. That'll be on Spotify only, uh you'll see you'll two bullfuckers over.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, uh. And, by the way, uh, peri, um, I heard that you a bad mouth and nail pert again, nail pit. I heard you so just for that, just for that, peri, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, how do you put a bot in a penalty by?
Speaker 1:he has no choice.
Speaker 3:Oh, I think you gotta remove all his messages, or?
Speaker 1:something I can't drop the machine.
Speaker 1:Um, all right, listen, I'm gonna wrap this up. I gotta upload this, download this and then send it out to the podcast world. Everybody want to thank you for listening. Uh, if you like it, share it. If you didn't, well, thanks for listening for two thousand two hours and 39 minutes. You stupid. Um, I always say you guys are the engine that runs this machine. Without you would be me talking to these guys, and that's always fun, anyways. And uh, as usual, I want to say, to quote my favorite artist, marcie, doing the show for you, the pleasure, the privilege is mine and we will see you next thursday night, same time livestream. All right, everybody, good night, good night.