As I fly solo on this auditory escapade through the year 2002, we're not just stepping back in time—we're reliving the electric moments that have shaped our music and movie narratives. From the pyrotechnic insanity of Ramstein to the tender homage of the 'Concert for George', I'm serving up a cultural feast that's as varied as it is vivacious. Amidst the laughter over our less-than-stellar phone system and the occasional heart-to-heart about those exes we just can't forget, this journey through past passions and controversies, from C Murder's arrest to the tragic loss of Lisa 'Left Eye' Lopes, promises a mix of emotions as complex as the chords of a Keith classic.
Saddle up for a rollicking ride through the musical landscape, where Toby Keith's anthems hang in the air like a battle cry, and we marvel at the enduring influence of icons and the ever-evolving stage performances we can't live without. We'll chat about the seismic shifts in the music industry, from Coachella's unforgettable lineup to Eminem's polarizing tracks, all while navigating the choppy waters of band breakups and nostalgic reunions. Who knew a call from a listener could catapult us into a passionate discourse on the heartfelt narratives of our favorite songs?
The silver screen isn't left out of the spotlight, as we dissect cinematic triumphs and lament franchise fatigue. Delving into the dark corners of "Insomnia" and the web-slinging success of "Spider-Man," we ponder the narrative prowess of the year's best films. And as we cap off with an analysis of the industry's future, driven by the creative mavericks of independent cinema and the longing for storytelling substance, we're left questioning if the magic of '02 can ever truly be recaptured. So, settle in and turn the volume up, because this is more than just a podcast episode—it's a tribute to the timeless tunes and tales that continue to echo in our lives.
As I fly solo on this auditory escapade through the year 2002, we're not just stepping back in time—we're reliving the electric moments that have shaped our music and movie narratives. From the pyrotechnic insanity of Ramstein to the tender homage of the 'Concert for George', I'm serving up a cultural feast that's as varied as it is vivacious. Amidst the laughter over our less-than-stellar phone system and the occasional heart-to-heart about those exes we just can't forget, this journey through past passions and controversies, from C Murder's arrest to the tragic loss of Lisa 'Left Eye' Lopes, promises a mix of emotions as complex as the chords of a Keith classic.
Saddle up for a rollicking ride through the musical landscape, where Toby Keith's anthems hang in the air like a battle cry, and we marvel at the enduring influence of icons and the ever-evolving stage performances we can't live without. We'll chat about the seismic shifts in the music industry, from Coachella's unforgettable lineup to Eminem's polarizing tracks, all while navigating the choppy waters of band breakups and nostalgic reunions. Who knew a call from a listener could catapult us into a passionate discourse on the heartfelt narratives of our favorite songs?
The silver screen isn't left out of the spotlight, as we dissect cinematic triumphs and lament franchise fatigue. Delving into the dark corners of "Insomnia" and the web-slinging success of "Spider-Man," we ponder the narrative prowess of the year's best films. And as we cap off with an analysis of the industry's future, driven by the creative mavericks of independent cinema and the longing for storytelling substance, we're left questioning if the magic of '02 can ever truly be recaptured. So, settle in and turn the volume up, because this is more than just a podcast episode—it's a tribute to the timeless tunes and tales that continue to echo in our lives.
Well, here we are, episode 135. And on this episode we'll be talking about the music in the movies of the year 2002. Yeah, and instead of the wrecking to tonight, we have the one, the only well one. Half of the wrecking crew, mark Smith lose, lose a little under the weather, I think, and just for that he's in the penalty box, even though he's not on. So sit back, relax, enjoy the movies, the music, the music, the movies of 2002.
Speaker 2:The KOFB studio presents Milk Crate's and Turn Tables. A music discussion podcast hosted by Scott McClain.
Speaker 3:Now let's talk music.
Speaker 2:Enjoy the show.
Speaker 1:Thank you, amanda, for that wonderful introduction as usual. Welcome back, my friends, to the show that never ends. We're so glad you could attend to come inside. Come inside. Welcome to the podcast. You know the name. I'm not going to say it. I'm going to say it right now, over a couple of pages on Facebook, x, instagram, d Live, twitch, blah, blah, blah. A few other platforms, I think. And yeah, as I stated in the intro, the professor is absent tonight. He called in sick. The ball's on that guy. He's becoming kind of his own little celebrity like Marcus. They each have their own little fan clubs and people. Oh, I love Mark, oh I love Lou. No one ever says they love me though. Thanks, you can comment, though on YouTube. You can comment below. You love me? I'll go to Apple. It's on all the podcasts. Leave a comment if you can Tell me how much you love me. I'm very insecure like that. I've been doing this so long and I just haven't got over that hump. But speaking of humps, Mark it's up.
Speaker 4:Buddy it's up. I like that intro. I love it. It's always the spur of the moment. I never planned that shit.
Speaker 3:I feel like I should have a wrestling outfit on. By the way, my sisters love you.
Speaker 4:They all love you. Oh, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3:They always ask about you, not me. It's not so funny, scott's so wonderful yeah.
Speaker 1:Alison C. She's right there. I'm going to open up the chat right now. There you go, but I'm beside. Patty loves me, of course, thank you. Thank you, always becoming a little insecure. I'm a delicate flower. I'm sensitive. Yes, sensitive is a porcupine. There you go, and your sister loves you too. Oh the show's getting mushy. She said it to me first yeah, that's true, that's true. That's really what matters to me, because it's all about me. That's right. I just get a phone call. Yeah, spam.
Speaker 3:Spam. I could go for some right now.
Speaker 1:So I wanted to touch on this last week. We're talking about 2002, but this is not about 2002. I had sent you some videos, you and Lou saying it's the greatest stage show I think you could ever see, other than Gua.
Speaker 4:Gua was absolute chaos, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, rest in peace. What was his name? Otaris Yurungus? He was the lead singer Ramstein. Yeah, like insane fireworks.
Speaker 3:I was going to say real fire, not lasers, not smoke, but real fire.
Speaker 1:See the video where he has that thing on his back and it shoots out like I was laughing.
Speaker 3:Ramstein, they're so serious when they're standing there doing that.
Speaker 1:Well, he's that dark German metal like God. Over there, ramstein is like kiss. Well, yeah, over there they're just like they're kings.
Speaker 3:Almost as popular as David Hasselhoff.
Speaker 1:Almost, yeah, almost, don't get carried away, though Don't get carried away, but yeah, just some insane fire. I mean the, the guitars have flame throwers attached to them it's ace freely.
Speaker 3:another step, because they've only had the little sparks.
Speaker 1:Ace freely isn't even in the same universe as that. This, I mean these guys, they mean you know how hot that stage must get, oh God. And then at one point across the state they shoot, yeah, and the flame throws across the top like probably 15 feet up, 20 feet up from you know, coming at each other. It's like what the f?
Speaker 3:I guarantee you every city they're going to play when it's announced there's a fire inspector and an alarm goes off in this office.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't think they know. I don't know if they've ever played, if they've played the States. I've never heard they have, have they?
Speaker 3:Yeah, they have, but I don't know if they could. Well, it depends on the venue.
Speaker 1:You know you can do. It Depends on the venue. Yeah, Kiss has that big, you know.
Speaker 3:I think Ramstein would be big enough to play Radio City. I know a lot of people that like him.
Speaker 1:I would go see Ramstein just to see the show and their great musicians. Yeah, you know, they're like really good musicians and it's, it's, it's a, it's a how can I put it? It's a different taste in music. It's very German, yeah.
Speaker 3:Very metal.
Speaker 1:It's like in metal and you know. But it's not like that. You know that's metal stuff. Yeah, oh, like they scream into the mic and I never stood that one.
Speaker 3:I guess. I guess that they're the German version of our what's the band, where they wear the masks and they're hit. They have like two drums.
Speaker 4:Slips not.
Speaker 3:They're like, they're kind of like a slip knot, because it's you know, a slip knot is more of a feeling, of an attitude with their music.
Speaker 1:Yeah, slip knot is that new metal genre. They fall into that.
Speaker 3:They don't have fire.
Speaker 1:No, no, no one has fire like Ramstein. Why is my mic all, all can? I'm like I don't know what the docs say tonight. Dave Phillips, uh, king of the 45s. Todd soccer, todd, big head. Todd the wet sprocket said there was four. Now there is two. Oh, he's good at math. He's really good at math, big head, todd the wet sprocket.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you only got one. Entertain me.
Speaker 1:How about if no one entertains you? How about if we just don't want to entertain you? Big head, todd the wet sprocket Like just how about you entertain us?
Speaker 4:and leave us alone.
Speaker 3:Get him on the show.
Speaker 1:He won't. He'd never come on the show. I swore I would never I was scared He'd never, he'd never come on the show.
Speaker 3:No, that first time I was on man he'd never come on the show.
Speaker 1:But you know what? Let me see something. Yeah, let's try something. Well, we got time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, your voice is a little like you have a noise gate on tonight.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's like you know you normally have noise suppression, but you know, when you hear too much noise suppression like Drops when you talk quiet, it drops down. But it could be just what I'm hearing on mine.
Speaker 1:No, I've been having issue with getting these things set up, getting my settings right, and I kind of tinkered with them the other day.
Speaker 3:Oh, you're not going to like what you hear when you hear it, because you don't have bass on your voice. Really, you sound okay, you sound fine, but Right, yeah, play with that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thanks, I'm going to get myself conscious of this. The rest of the show. Let me get that off there. What is that? Yeah, so I'm going to talk close to the mic for the rest of the show. Let me see.
Speaker 3:Okay, monotone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, talk in monotone. Let's connect this. All right, let's see if this works. But he can't because he's on his phone. I was going to say if he wants to be entertained, how about if he calls in? Right, he can entertain us, but he won't.
Speaker 3:I'll sit back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and just listen to him go, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, 304.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bye, remember that the, the, the, the Pete Puma in the Bugs Bunny cartoon, hey, how many lumps you want? Yeah, 304. Dink, dink, dink and the lumps come out of his head. Bugs Bunny hits him with a hammer and that 304. All right, it's time for 45 poker buddy. All right, this is, this is. This is just you and me. Here you go, you're up right now, all right. Acto records man for all seasons, or lovely day, lonely days by the Bee Gees. Oh, lonely days. That's a big one.
Speaker 1:Lonely nights. All right, here's mine from ABC Paramount. Uh, little Tommy, I walk on. Little Tommy, never love again. I am so bad at this oh where's Tom when you need him? Here you go. Number two yeah, mercury records. All right, leslie Gore, california nights or I'm going out.
Speaker 3:No, California night sounds like.
Speaker 1:Okay, we'll go with that name. Yeah, we'll go with that title. All right, let's see Motown. Yeah, ah, from last week. It's like a deck of cards. You get the same a Dean theme from the hog and he Diana Ross. All right, all right.
Speaker 3:Third, here's you go, we're tied I think I think.
Speaker 1:So here you go. From Bell records, oh Bell records, uh, knock three times from dawn he would say Tony Orlando, it's just gone.
Speaker 3:They left Tony off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess they would. That was that's what it was before they got their own show. He got his own show, or maybe it's a remake. All right, I need a biggie here. Yeah, let's see what I got. Don't scratch it, don't scratch it All right. There we go from stacks records. Oh, I came out last week. Staples singers.
Speaker 1:I'll take you there, not the greatest hand, not the greatest hand, so I walk along, I walk on little Tommy, theme from Mahogany, diana Ross and the staples singers. I'll take you there or knock three times by dawn California nights by Leslie Gore and lonely days by the Bee Gees.
Speaker 3:It's tough on.
Speaker 1:I think you might edge me out because you got Mahogany and I'll take you there I think, yeah, I think in the in the staples singers, I'll take you, there was a pretty big hit in the 70s Lonely days wasn't a huge hit. No, it wasn't a big Bee Gees hit, but it was a Bee Gees hit. I'll take the win.
Speaker 3:You got it. Yay, hey, luton win tonight Luton win.
Speaker 4:Good, good, put these back in the deck.
Speaker 3:We know that if he text, if he messages in tonight, he's not really sick.
Speaker 1:And well, he's going to be watching. You know he's going to be watching.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he wouldn't watch now, so I could say anything I want about him.
Speaker 1:He's not. He's not going to do a Neum Gallagher and watch the show from a distance, like, say, I can't make it. Then he's up there drinking and having a good time and heckling us. You don't think Lou will do that.
Speaker 1:No, he may show up behind one of us tonight In California nights of course David Dave Phillips, king of the 45, says California nights, I had the 45. Nice, yeah, all right. Well, let's get into it. What do we got? The music and movies of 2002. It was pretty, a pretty interesting year in music, I think, considering better than I thought, Like usually when I go over it right?
Speaker 1:Starting on January 1st. Right away, Eric Clapton marries God bless him His 25 year old American girlfriend in a surprise wedding ceremony at a church in the English village of Ripley Surrey. Never, just one fucking word.
Speaker 3:Dough Jesus Water on river. Yeah, chestnut on water.
Speaker 1:So he married a 25 year old. Good for him, Good for him. Yeah. January 8th, the Black Crows announced they are taking a hiatus. Yeah, April Bernat, he loves me and we love you too, April, we hope you're feeling better January. Yeah, the Black Crows take a hiatus. January 14th, Adam Ant is committed to a psych. I remember this. Committed to a psychiatric hospital two days after being arrested carrying a firearm into a London pub that Ant claims was fake. Was the pub fake or was the gun fake? See how many people write today. They have no writing skill whatsoever.
Speaker 3:Run on sentences yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, april said she's still in the hospital. Well, tell the nurses we said hello and they better take care of you. Yeah, I remember that he had that. He had kind of a nervous breakdown he has. I think he was diagnosed as maybe bipolar or something, some derivative of that.
Speaker 3:I don't know, I didn't know about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, january 18th 2002, rapper C Murder never heard of him is arrested in charge with second degree murder.
Speaker 3:He's a murder. He do murder how ironic, how ironic you know C Murder, do murder. If you see something, say something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've called myself C Murder. Now I want to do murder. Yeah, but it was only second degree, luzza over the fatal shooting in a Harvey Louisiana nightclub on January 12th. So let me see January 18th to February 3rd and I say February because that's the way it's spelled the Big Day Out Festival takes place in Australia and New Zealand, headlined by the Prodigy. Yeah, so the Prodigy was really the keyboardist. He was the guy that wrote the music. He's the one that produced the music, the vocalist, keith Flint. The guy looked like a crazy ass bozo the clown firestarter and ended up killing himself.
Speaker 3:Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he ended up killing himself. But Prodigy was really the keyboard player. He wrote everything and produced everything, never really said anything about it, but they got a lot of publicity or they got a lot of airtime on MTV just because of the style of the videos and music and still say the greatest video ever made is the uncut version of Smack your Bitch Up, most insane video I've ever seen. It's a story. It's not like just crazy shit, like a ministry video or something. New World Order. Did you ever see that video by Ministry? New World Order? Yes, yes, that's just total anarchy and chaos. So Smack my Bitch Up. Good luck finding the. I found it once, the unedited version.
Speaker 4:Okay.
Speaker 1:And it's got one of the best twists in music video history at the end.
Speaker 4:One of the best twists ever.
Speaker 1:Even if you don't see the original version, the ending is still the same. You know crazy.
Speaker 3:I didn't like Prodigy when it came out I thought they were boring and then someone said oh, no, no. Yeah. I know, everyone told me I was crazy. Yeah, a few years back I started listening to them and I said, oh, another band. I just didn't appreciate.
Speaker 1:They were just different. That whole sound was different. You know, wasn't techno, it was like techno, hard rock.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's like heavy, heavy beats you know, and they had one song that was really big on the radio. I cannot remember the name of it.
Speaker 1:So you had Firestarter, you had. Well, let's see, let's look it up. I got it right here.
Speaker 3:My local K-Rock used to play one of their songs constantly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you had 92. They had. Let me see Gerald winded up on a space Firestarter Music that jilted generation, let's see. Now you got me wanting to find that hit, let's see. And of course, now when I do this, everything gets slow. We'll think about it. It's the prodigy, by the way. It's the prodigy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Let me see, not that one. They didn't really. Oh well, hold on.
Speaker 3:You got a phone ringing.
Speaker 1:I guess somebody calling Hold on, yeah, hold on one second. All right, you're on. Milk Creates and Turn Tables Live Screen Podcast, live. Who is this? Who the hell do you think it is? Here we go Turn them up. I'm turning. Can you say that again? Caller.
Speaker 2:I said who the hell do you think it is?
Speaker 1:I don't know Some some schmo, just decided to interrupt my show.
Speaker 2:Don't be a hater, because I still have a full head of hair, is this?
Speaker 1:big head, todd the wet sprocket.
Speaker 2:I figured I needed a call in to help liven up the show. Oh, oh oh, oh.
Speaker 3:I told you, Scott, it's only me.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, to liven up the show, because what? Lou is just such a vibrant personality in his deadpan dry doc humor. He just had so much vibrance to the show. So we're okay, okay. Okay, asshole, you called the show, you interrupted the show. Fucking, entertain us. Oh wait, what? What the hell just happened? Hold on, that's all folks.
Speaker 2:And that's not what's going to happen.
Speaker 1:Oh, oh, oh, wait you just so somebody thinks you're poor. You're Dr Pork Chop. They don't see. That's entertaining right there. So how are you going to entertain us?
Speaker 2:Come on, liven up the show, come on Well, like they always say there's nothing like a say about that, don't interrupt me, I was talking to not interrupt me.
Speaker 4:Stop interrupting me.
Speaker 1:I'm the host of the show, not use, don't interrupt me. I wasn't done when I was saying you'll listen and you'll listen. Good, okay, buddy.
Speaker 4:Listen if you call you have a problem, have a solution.
Speaker 2:Okay, I can do this. I can do it. You're waiting for it.
Speaker 1:He's going to hang up. Watch, he's going to hang up. Here we go, click Right.
Speaker 4:Who taught?
Speaker 1:me that yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I taught you that.
Speaker 1:No, no, you know why I taught him? Because I do this. Get off my show. See, I just hung up on him, idiot, idiot just gave me the opportunity to hang up on him.
Speaker 3:Isn't it great to have that telephone sounding voice once in a while on the show. It is good to take a call. Even if you're sweating over him. Yeah, you're like this. No.
Speaker 1:I'm not. I don't sweat the small stuff. I don't sweat the small stuff. I do.
Speaker 3:That's my problem, as you know, let's see.
Speaker 1:Oh, here it is. It's off of this album in 97. The fat of the land came out from Prodigy and that was kind of the one that launched them. Okay, they actually still put out albums after after he died. So the let me see where's the smack? My bitch up fire started. Breathe with me, down, down, down, down, down Down.
Speaker 4:Down, down Down.
Speaker 1:Down, down, down, down, down, down Down.
Speaker 4:Down Down.
Speaker 1:Down, down Down.
Speaker 4:Down.
Speaker 1:Down, down, down, down, down, down down. Okay, let's see about Prodigy andชyla. We talked about Prodigy and the spots that were going to be here researching and their ок, you know what. They're jumped ahead to try to find one song. And well, now there we go, and here we go Back to this. Okay, yep, prodigy. January 23rd 2002, virgin Records buys out its contract with Mariah Carey for $28 million, essentially paying her to not record any more music for the label. Wow, guess, she was just a 90s girl.
Speaker 3:I wish I bet you Yoko was she had that deal.
Speaker 1:Yoko has John Lennon money, so I don't think she really. But I would say Mariah Carey is probably you think she's worth more than Yoko. Her catalog, john Lennon's catalog, you know she was huge. While I'm doing this look, look that up Getting net worth for Mariah Carey, and net worth this is a. You make the call. So who do you think before you do it? Who do you think?
Speaker 3:I'm going to say and this is going to be unpopular, Mariah Carey.
Speaker 1:I'd say Mariah Carey, just because she has the greatest Christmas song ever written.
Speaker 3:Okay, so according to what I'm seeing you know, because the internet's always right she's worth 350 million.
Speaker 1:Mariah Carey.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Net worth for.
Speaker 1:Yoko Probably like I'd say a hundred and something maybe, but she gets all that Beatles money too.
Speaker 3:I think it's about 150 million.
Speaker 1:I thought, so A hundred yeah.
Speaker 3:That's it. That's all she's got.
Speaker 1:Man, that's it. Lose, another loser, yeah, february 3rd Probably probably the greatest Super Bowl halftime performance ever. You too. Oh, that's great. The halftime show, yeah, where the Patriots won the Super Bowl against the Los Angeles Rams. Thank you.
Speaker 3:Did River Pool win? I don't know yeah.
Speaker 1:Hold on, let me drink some coffee. I need coffee now.
Speaker 3:Coffee at night? That's not wise.
Speaker 1:Well, for a three hour podcast. We're going three tonight. Oh no, we never know what we're going to do, so let's see. On February 4th, Kiss Basis Gene Simmons has a notoriously antagonistic interview with your girl, Terry Gross.
Speaker 3:I remember that this is fresh air. I heard Tom I heard, tom, I love Terry Gross yeah.
Speaker 1:On National Polygrad. Simmons continuously baits the host with sexual come ons through helping interview, while Gross repeatedly calls Simmons obnoxious. Simmons refuses to grant NPR permission to post the interview online, but unauthorized transcripts in audio exist. I've heard it. Well, I guess that was probably on the radio. Oh, and then they wanted to post it online.
Speaker 3:Well, you know what she did.
Speaker 1:On their website.
Speaker 3:She was dumb, she fed into his schlock and she got caught. She didn't realize that he was leading her on to do that.
Speaker 1:And she got comfortable. Yeah, yeah, thinking everybody loves Terry Gross. Hi, this is fresh air. I'm Terry Gross. Yeah, you're gross, all right.
Speaker 4:Don't like that, then she got political.
Speaker 1:I used to like her and I started hearing the way that was going.
Speaker 2:And I said she's now.
Speaker 1:I'm serious. I used to like listening to that. I'm not going to get home from work, yeah. But then I started noticing like it wasn't. It wasn't what it used to be. It seemed to have an agenda, was before she'd have authors and she'd have everybody, and she had, she was a good interviewer. But then I started hearing and I wasn't. You know, trust me, this was before I walked away. You're a convert. I was still yeah, this was, and I said it's just not funny, it's just, it just stopped being. It lost its appeal.
Speaker 3:About a year ago she had an airline stewardess on. She wrote a book about being an airline. I want to buy the book. And she was telling all these stories and man, there's some disgusting people on airlines.
Speaker 1:I tell you oh yeah, yeah, that's why I don't fly. Ah, let's see. February 13th 2002, jennifer Lopez becomes the first singer to have a remix album. J to the L to the O remixes debut at number one, selling over 156,000 copies.
Speaker 3:I got my copy.
Speaker 1:February 15th 2002, us singer Brittany Spares. I still love Brittany. I don't care, she's crazy, I'm in a sprayed road, I still love her.
Speaker 2:She still looks good too.
Speaker 1:I don't care where anybody says you see that Instagrams of her on the stripper pole, she still she still looks good. Had a couple kids still looks good. That's crazy. She still looks good, that's crazy. Sometimes that shit crazy can be fun as long as she's not bat shit crazy like like violent or which I never had tolerance for. Bat shit crazy period Like what.
Speaker 1:I look yeah, I have no lighting houses on fire. I mean, I dated a lot of girls and some of them I kind of got the vibe like beautiful girl, beautiful, I'm like you got to go. I am not Okay, I'll good looking you out. You are, I'm not putting up with your shit.
Speaker 4:Get out of my house.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I had a dude. I have a friend who's who's just dating this girl, right, and he said one night it was like probably I don't know. He said it was like three in the morning and she fucking, he just all of a sudden he wakes up to her screaming at him and kind of hitting him and pushing him, saying get out of my house, get the fuck out of my house. And he was sleeping like she just snapped in the middle of the night. I go, what did you do? He said I got the fuck out of the house. He had his clothes on, he had got dressed. He's like what the fuck? She's just screaming at him Like fucking out of nowhere he goes. We didn't go to bed and having a fight, we didn't do you know, they weren't living together, obviously, but and she just fucking snapped on him. Wow, like I'm like dude, that is like why would you ever go back to that? Yeah, he go to bed like with one eye open, literally sleep when one eye open, clutching your pillow tight.
Speaker 3:Bed might be set on fire.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So, uh, let me see. Britney Spears takes her first starring role in Crossroads, a teen drama, a road film, alongside Zoe Saldana she's been around Pretty girl too. Zoe Saldana is a good looking girl. Although the film is largely pinned, it is commercially successful, grossing 61.1 million worldwide against a 12 million dollar budget. Uh, let me see Big head Todd the Westbrook. It says I tried calling back to say no joke, I haven't missed an episode so far. Well, you didn't have to call back, you just let us know. Thank you have a good drive.
Speaker 3:Let him talk for one minute. Give him a minute.
Speaker 1:Said he tried to call back. I don't see what he tried to call. Let me see.
Speaker 3:That's right, you would have heard the phone ring.
Speaker 1:I would have heard it. Yeah, so I think, see, he's lying to me now. He's like, he's like a psycho girlfriend lying to me. Someone's just used to every show.
Speaker 3:so far you gotta, yeah, give props. No, I don't have to give him shit.
Speaker 1:So anyway, february 27th, the 44th annual Grammy Awards are presented in Los Angeles, hosted by John Stuart, who has his. He has another show, he has a new show. By the way, is this a call-in show now, marie Martin? I mean, if you want to call in too, I don't, I don't, I don't know where this will go, but you know, let's see. Here's the number up on the screen 5612 and 24915. I don't know 212. Is this Manhattan? 561212. Is that the exchange in Manhattan?
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's Manhattan 212.
Speaker 1:This is Boca, not that shit-hole Manhattan.
Speaker 3:Oh, oh, the Titan words Come on, Shit-hole, manhattan, shit-hole, I respect.
Speaker 1:Boston. I respect Boston. I'm in Boca, I'm not in Boston. Yeah, I'm in the Boca Raton buddy. So that's right. That's right. How about Ocala?
Speaker 3:The land of the.
Speaker 1:Boca babes.
Speaker 3:How about Ocala? Huh, how about Ocala?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah yeah, a lot of horse faces up there. A lot of horse faces up there.
Speaker 3:And horse asses.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's see when was I before Marine Martin interrupted me Crossroads. Yeah, yeah, yeah, go straight to the KOF. Evoise what.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that happened to me before I was on the show. You told me to call in one night and it went right to the voicemail.
Speaker 1:Let me see something. Hold on, See now I got it.
Speaker 4:Where's my fucking phone?
Speaker 3:Wow you're all out of sports tonight.
Speaker 1:Where's my phone? There it is, jesus. It's hiding behind my box of shitty 45s. Shitty 45s. I know my mic, I'm going to try to call myself now and see what's going on here. Let's see.
Speaker 3:Oh, this is great show for people driving listening. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, this is all tonight. Let me see what's my number. Four, nine, one, five. Let's see where this goes. Let's see. Okay, I know, I know you can take your phone number, come on.
Speaker 4:Come on.
Speaker 2:You have reached the K-O-F-D video.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You may have your bill, Scott. I don't know, you know what. I'm going to shut it off and turn it back on Now. Now I'm, I'm, I can still read this shit. Uh, the 44th annual Grammy Awards are presented in Los Angeles, hosted by John Stewart, the soundtrack for the film. Oh Brother, when are Thou Funny as Fuck, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:We're in a pickle dick.
Speaker 1:Ass movie man Wins the album of the year, while you two's walk on wins record of the year. Alicia Keys wins song of the year for Fallen and best new artist. Why am I? Why did that go right to a voice? Well, that's kind of strange. Uh, let's see. So that ended February. You're going into March. March 7th Nothing there. March 12th a silver chair withdraw from the Garns South Festival in Australia After Daniel Johns contracts reactive arthritis. That kid, silver chair, was a group from Australia. Yeah, they had a couple of hits, small hits, and that kid, like suffered from anorexia. Uh, then he ended up with the arthritis. It's like, yeah, yeah, and he was young, they were, that was a young band. Yeah, yeah, let's see. All right, it works again. That was me calling me.
Speaker 3:So over a year ago I tried to call in and that same thing happened.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Maybe when you answer one call kind of.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Messes it up. Uh oh, here we go. March 15th, Liverpool airport is rechristened Liverpool John Lennon airport in an official ceremony.
Speaker 3:And Paul McCartney was pissed.
Speaker 1:Really I don't know. Oh okay, All right, March 15th 2002. Celine Dion returns to the music scene after a four year absence with the album A new day has come. Uh, she went up with her. I know her husband died and she went like she really lost it Is she sick or something.
Speaker 3:She's just showing her age. I think too she's singing, she's doing a Vegas thing. I think, oh, okay, but she looked. You know she like. I looked at her and I went, wow, you know it's been a few years, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, uh, april 17th. I don't believe I can't give them this title. Pop punk giants, pop punk. It's more like pop Pop giants, blink 182. Oh yeah, pop In green day Go headline a two month pop disaster tour. It's a fucking disaster.
Speaker 3:It's like lit, remember lit, they were pop.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly yeah, all right, april 25th 2002. Member of the R&B group TLC. Lisa left I lop has dies in a car accident. And Honduras yeah, driving too fast. April 27th and 28th, the Coachella Valley Music in Arts Festival takes place in California, headlined by Bjork and Oasis. The lineup also features the chemical brothers, the prodigy cake not a big fan Foo Fighters, jack Johnson, queens of the Stone Age, the Strokes, the Vines Balanced, sebastian.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so Jack Johnson was the where you went and took a nap.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this year, max, the festival's return to its original two day format. Speaking of earlier, May 8th 2002, mariah Carey signs a new contract with Island Def Jam Music Group. May 12th 2002, we will rock you. A jukebox musical based on the song of Queen, opens at the Dominion Theater in London, england, and it probably closed within a week, that's certainly so why?
Speaker 1:He just said it doesn't work. Again, let me see. Do you want me to try it? No, I'm going to try this one more time, and if it doesn't work, See, you're a local, call Me and Todd are calling I mean I have. I try to call it See what happens while I'm reading this, May 22nd, members of Alien Ant Farm are injured.
Speaker 3:Works for me.
Speaker 1:It works.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:Todd just doesn't know how to use a phone. Oh, let me see, members of Alien Ant Farm are injured.
Speaker 3:Oh, they were trying to do the moonwalk.
Speaker 1:Alien Ant Farm known for their remake of smooth criminal.
Speaker 3:How are?
Speaker 4:they injured oh my God, I don't know. Here we go.
Speaker 1:What, what See, turn them up, what Are you there?
Speaker 4:Are you there the great call.
Speaker 3:Are you home alone? He doesn't even know how to.
Speaker 1:I got it. It's all hooked up, it's ready to go. He's just I don't know. He's going to say I'm in your house.
Speaker 3:Is he?
Speaker 1:breathing. Am I missing the heavy breathing? He's got him something, I don't know. I'm hanging up, we're on with the show. A nice drive, but we're done here. So let me see. Yeah, alien Ant Farm injured early morning to a bus crash in Spain that claimed the life of the driver. Oh, may 25, 2002, may 25, 2002. The 47th Eurovision Song Contest was held in Nobody Kills. Who won? May 26, 2002. Eminem releases the Eminem Show, one of the best-selling hip-hop albums of 2002. It was never a fan. I liked him or hated it.
Speaker 3:Some of his songs I loved.
Speaker 1:I didn't like his style. I didn't like it.
Speaker 3:I thought there was two. Oh, I loved it without me.
Speaker 1:I liked from his movie. They won an Academy.
Speaker 4:Award. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1:I love the movie. I like that, but I didn't really like it. I don't like his style.
Speaker 3:What was the?
Speaker 1:screw up in that movie.
Speaker 3:The screw up in that movie is when he came home and then his mother was dating the guy he went to school with. He's like I'm your stepdad now. That was fucked. And then that rap. Now you live in home with your mother.
Speaker 1:Let me see. June 4th, avril Lavigne releases her debut album Let Go, and then eventually, there's this whole I talked about this before. There's this whole Avril Lavigne conspiracy thing. Oh Jesus.
Speaker 4:What.
Speaker 1:What the hell.
Speaker 2:Is it working? Yeah, nice, see. Well, I got in the car and I drove about half a mile away and got to another position.
Speaker 1:So you assumed to the position, just for me. Thank you, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2:That's what I said. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And you're used to assuming the position.
Speaker 2:I'm sure You're the one with the elbows on the table. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, that was a mistake. You did yours on purpose. That's the difference.
Speaker 2:Hey, 30 seconds. I'll summarize. First concert Jerry Reed 1983, erie County Fair. Best concert I ever saw was Depeche Mode in Sacramento in 2002. Worked security just like you can security, except I ran the operation at Rayleigh Field for the RiverCats. Sammy Hagar put on the best concert out of all of them and I saw everybody from heart to Sammy Hagar. I mean, yeah, the list is on. I'm just trying to get it all in, scott, because you're never going to invite me to call in every year. This really is.
Speaker 1:First of all, I don't remember asking for this information.
Speaker 4:I don't remember, that's what you asked all your guests.
Speaker 3:Don't interrupt them. Don't interrupt them, it's a calling.
Speaker 1:Come on, all right, keep talking, jesus Christ.
Speaker 2:Those are the questions you ask all your guests.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I'm loaded with guests on this, on this podcast, it just that's right. Call rings every episode.
Speaker 3:I know people from the Gogo's calling.
Speaker 2:I saw them in concert Amazing concert no, it wasn't Psychedelic furs and the girl goes great, great, great show yeah great.
Speaker 3:And agreed, sammy Hagar, you would have been dancing on the table with me, but there's Scott.
Speaker 4:I know.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I saw the B-52s. I wasn't dancing on the table. I saw the young, the original B-52s. Wait before the guitar is died.
Speaker 2:A great show idea are fans that you don't normally mention, like, as an example, my friend introducing me to the Pursuit of Happiness one of my favorite love junk.
Speaker 1:That's a good album. That is a good album.
Speaker 2:Yes, I must admit, yeah, it's a good album You're going to get, you might actually get one extra viewer if you did that kind of a show.
Speaker 1:I don't really need viewers.
Speaker 2:And then the last thing I want to say is jump out of your comfort zone, get a little country maybe. Show a little tribute to Toby Keith, one of the greatest song writers and singers.
Speaker 3:I did a tribute to him on our show Music Rollish.
Speaker 1:Well, fucking, you two have at it here. Go ahead, here's your time to shine. Big head dog, the wet sprocket and Mark tribute away. What the hell? Why not? We're at this point.
Speaker 2:So, Mark, my ringtone on my phone it has been for a couple of years now is I want to be a cowboy. I should have been a cowboy. I got it rings for everybody except for my wife. You mean, I want to be a?
Speaker 1:cowboy, so I can get a cow girl, that's the real version. That's the real version. That's the real version, that's right. So you've gone to the well on the elbows, on the table, twice and it's failed miserably, so move on to something else.
Speaker 2:Come on, talk about Toby Keith. Go ahead, no, all three of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, talk about Toby Keith, go ahead.
Speaker 3:So my favorite Toby Keith song is Clancy's Tavern.
Speaker 2:Makes me cry when I hear this yeah, I like the whole shock in y'all album. That would just amazing. It sounds like I love this bar and American soldier and all those. I mean he's a true American and he's brought on a lot of stars on his album and stuff like that and created a lot of great country singers.
Speaker 3:Kind of reminded me of Merle Haggard in a way.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, right. So I think with him you just got to appreciate life, don't?
Speaker 4:stop getting all fucking sentimental.
Speaker 2:You got to love what you have, jesus.
Speaker 1:Christ, are you fucking sweet. Should I just stop dishing out Razorblades? What the fuck is? What are you talking about? Appreciate life. You're the softest mother.
Speaker 3:You got soft boy, I'm the softest.
Speaker 1:No, this guy right here was tough as nails, alpha male to the bone, and I was like gotta appreciate life.
Speaker 4:You never know, any day could be your day and Toby Keith day, and he preached and I love life. I love you, man. I love you. It's life, man, don't take it for granted. You never know. Look at Toby, are you done? Are you done?
Speaker 2:He is lost. All your fans.
Speaker 4:He loved life, he loved it.
Speaker 3:He did, he loved it, performed right up to the end.
Speaker 4:He was a great, great country man. Yeah, he meant his stupid hat All right.
Speaker 1:Are we done with?
Speaker 2:this segment.
Speaker 1:He's done, oh, I'm done.
Speaker 3:I'm done, he's done, like bacon.
Speaker 2:Come on Ask me your questions. Ask me about concerts.
Speaker 1:Come on Ask me no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4:Cc, this is taking up way too much time.
Speaker 1:Where's Lou? See, if Lou is here, this wouldn't be going.
Speaker 3:That's the reason. Todd's on is because Lou's not here.
Speaker 1:I'm just going to keep reading and you guys comment Okay, I'm just going to keep, let me get through this, please.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because I got my favorite album, some movies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, june 5th From 2002, mark, there's good movies and good music.
Speaker 2:There is, yeah, have you listened?
Speaker 3:to the list.
Speaker 2:Scott was talking about. There hasn't been a single good artist so far.
Speaker 3:Oh, I got some good ones.
Speaker 1:Jesus, okay, I mean, I mean, can I keep, can I US? June 5th 2002, us soul and our B singer, our Kelly, is charged with 21 counts of having sexual intercourse with a minor, after a video tape allegedly showing him engaged in sexual acts and peeing on a girl.
Speaker 4:Oh, his broadcast on the internet, yeah.
Speaker 3:And he said it wasn't me.
Speaker 1:Wasn't me. June 11, 2002, paul McCartney married second wife Heather Mills. That was a mistake. Oh boy, yeah, that was a mistake.
Speaker 3:That was like Bruce Springsteen's first wife.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. On June 11th also, american Idol premieres on Fox. What's that noise? You hear that noise? Yeah, wind, what is it? Is he driving with his windows down?
Speaker 4:No, they're up.
Speaker 2:No, they're up Well you're gonna fucking do it.
Speaker 1:You can hear me right on my eyes Look at Dave Phillips, king of the 45 saying good night guys which means he'll be up for another half hour.
Speaker 1:It's gonna pop back in an hour. Okay, let me see. Corn releases the fifth studio album, untouchables. Yeah, good album. Yeah, yeah, all good albums. David Bowie releases his 22nd studio album. He even album Mark's a commercial comeback for Bowie in the US. Becoming his highest charting album in the country since 1984 is tonight, which was a good album. Yes, let me see June 12. Bmg music agrees to acquire the rest of nobody has. June 15, 2002, the Los Angeles, california, us radio station K rock. That's Todd's channel. Todd, you're up listening to K ROQ Rock of the 80s. Yep as the 10th annual Weenie roast show with bad religion, huba stank, jack Johnson, jimmy Eatworld, moby, newfound glory, p O D, papa Roach, puddle of Mud all the popular bands at the time get to the strokes system of a down never liked them. Unwritten law, the vines, the violent fems and Rob Zombie. Yeah, yeah, let me see.
Speaker 1:Again, Jack Johnson was the nap portion of the June 18th night 2002, Mexican pop singer Polina Rubio releases who cares? Yeah, well keep liking it. June 19, 2002, hecarro Utada releases an album and it sold 2 million album 2.3 million out a week.
Speaker 3:That's a song from Lion King.
Speaker 1:Yeah who? Caru Todd releases the album Deep River, which sold 2.3 million copies in a week. Yeah, let me see. Right, we lost that's background time. This will be a third time at number one on the year ending rankings, particular. All right, oh, gee, he's gone. Gee, that's too bad. I he went through that fucking background noise. I really miss that white noise that he was producing. See, he had nothing to contribute.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's your good friend, you got to let him on.
Speaker 1:No, that means I don't have to let him on. We lost Dave Phillips, king of the 45s. Yeah, june 20, 2002. Pop star Britney Spears, at only 20 years of age, is ranked by Forbes as the world's most powerful celebrity.
Speaker 3:But she wasn't as good at singing as Christine Aguilar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Christine had a voice. Let me see. June 21 to 23, the first Bonnaroo music festivals held in Tennessee. Performers include widespread panic, government mule and Nora Jones. Yeah, june 25, 2002, will Smith also comes back with new release of his third solo album, born to Rain, which contained more music that he bought off other people and just changed the lyrics. It's all he ever did. Think about it. All his hits, other than when he was with DJ Jazzy Jeff, all his hits were basically other people's music.
Speaker 3:Well, he sampled huge portions of tracks.
Speaker 1:He sampled the whole song. Yeah, and he just changed lyrics. Yeah, look at it. You know credit for being lazy and striking. You know, lighten and striking in a bottle, you know, but that's all that was is lazy. Yeah, it was nothing original produced on those things Right.
Speaker 3:Right, because you could take a tiny sample and turn it into another song.
Speaker 1:He took the whole song Forget Me Nuts and created Men in Black.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the whole tune. What was the one about being a single dad that sampled a really big song.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's all he did was he would buy other people's songs and they would get a writing credit. He would get all the credit for the song, get the majority of the money, but you know what, at least?
Speaker 3:at least they made some money, those people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I don't give him credit for being talented.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I never thought of him as this eloquent rapper.
Speaker 1:No, no, he was kind of a clown. He's bubblegum rappers. I called it, let's see. June 27th 2002, the who bassist, john Entwistle, found dead in a Vegas hotel room on the Eve of the Bands new tour, at age 57.
Speaker 3:Did you ever see the pictures of him from the night he died?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 3:They're out there, he's sitting with some couple at a table party and his eyes are like this he was doing a lot of blow. Yeah, you know so. Uh, yeah, you know how that happened.
Speaker 1:Yeah, june 30th 2002,. The Glastonbury festival features headline acts Coldplay, garbage, stereophonics, orbital Roger Waters, Rod Stewart and air Coldplay are not garbage.
Speaker 3:Stop it.
Speaker 1:Air. Was that like the other half of the supply?
Speaker 3:No, they. That's a weird band. They're considered progressive, but they're too light for me to be progressive. I don't know Glastonbury will put anybody on that bill. That's what I like about it, ah okay, they had Dolly. Parton, a few years back, you know.
Speaker 1:Yep. July 6th 2002, michael Jackson stages a public protest against Sony music chairman, Tommy Mottola, accusing him of taking pot in a racist conspiracy within the music industry to exploit black recording artists. Sony responds with a statement calling Jackson's remarks ludicrous, who later became on, became a big rapper ludicrous, spiteful and hurtful. So, like Mo, larry and Curly, that was even a rap group. Let me see. Hi, joanne Kuzvovsky, I love you and I'll tell Joanne she well, april, if she's watching, she can tell her why she's in the hospital. Send out any of anyone's medical information.
Speaker 3:We have a hippo law here on your table 20 thousand dollars for the first defense.
Speaker 1:Dr Varro would be very disappointed, Very, very disappointed. Let's see July 9th. Red Hot Chili Peppers eighth studio album, by the way, has released it sold 286,000 copies, being the US during its first week, peaking at number two on the billboard 200. It goes on to sell over 2 million copies in the US. God, On July 12th 2002, Buck Cherry breaks up. Oh geez, I remember that day like it was yesterday.
Speaker 3:They were told, they were touted as the next Van Halen. I never got it. They never did either. They're back. They're still playing.
Speaker 1:Of course they are. They break up on the heels of lead singer Josh Todd's decision to quit the group. They would reunite in 2005. July 20th to 21st, the Splendor in the Grass Music Festival takes place in Byron Bay, australia, headlined by Gomez and Supergrass. Why not Splendor in the Grass? Headlined by Supergrass. July 23rd 2002, my chemical romance, his first album, I brought you my bullets, you brought me your love, is released in public. Ema yeah. July 28th, the Area 2 festival featuring headline acts Moby why is he put ahead of David Bowie? Buster Rhymes, ash and Blue man Group begin a three-week tour in Washington DC.
Speaker 3:Bowie in that time period. He was seen as the old man when he was with those younger bands so they would always don't forget he opened for Nine Inch Nails on that show and my niece said that he played. No, no, I'm sorry, Nine Inch Nails opened, but when I finished, half the arena emptied out. Yeah, they were the big band at the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's why he had that whole thing with Morrissey. When Morrissey was touring with him, he wanted, there was Morrissey, there's just like 91, 92, and Morrissey was at his peak, absolute peak. Smith just broke up. He had just released an album, he was on all the nighttime shows, the late night shows, and he Bowie started noticing something. He said hey, how about if we, if you finish your last song and I come on halfway through and help you finish it?
Speaker 1:then you just kind of exit the stage and wait, Morrissey, say I think Morrissey did it once and he was like you know what, fuck him. I know what he's doing, he's trying to keep the audience and he said I quit the tour. He said I would never kneel at the altar of Bowie. Yeah, he said I would never kneel at the altar, which is what Bowie wanted.
Speaker 3:Bowie made a mistake later in his career. He still tried to do arenas and there was a point where he had to accept that he was only going to do things like Radio City Musical. He finally got it. He started doing smaller theaters. But yeah, it's embarrassing when someone only had fills in arena. It's not good.
Speaker 1:Right, right, and you would think that he has the catalog to carry it.
Speaker 3:Yeah. You know I think now, unfortunately, if he had lived, that Black Star album would have gotten him back. I think he would have done like a let's dance type thing of where he would have been in arenas, because, well, that's what they do now.
Speaker 1:They do the 25th anniversary of. So some years back, over a decade ago, there's I discovered this group there at the Hard Rock Hotel, in a small venue down in Hollywood, florida, and they were called classic albums live. And what they did was they? They would, they'd all dress in black and they would do an album, track for track, from beginning to end, sound for sound. They would recreate it right there on stage in front of you. It was fucking brilliant. They don't interact with the audience. Yeah, they just next song, next song, and it was fucking brilliant.
Speaker 1:Saw Doc's side of the moon, saw Abby Rhodes, saw you know a whole bunch of they. They just did it all. They were out of Canada, they tore around, they got they kind of caught on, but then, when that, when that particular part of the show was over, they'd leave. Then they'd come back. Now they can be a little loose with the audience and interact with them and they would do a greatest hits. You know of that particular group. And then I started noticing that bands started doing that. They were going to tour our album and we're going to do a cut for cut. Somebody caught on to that. It was like we need to start doing this, because that's actually a pretty good idea, you know. So yeah, saw bands start doing that, but we could have done that easily.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the first one I remember was Peter Gabriel. He was kind of like leveling out and he didn't tour the US for a while. And what was the album with Sledgehammer? So when that anniversary came up he did a big tour that sold out in America. You know, from from the whole album. It's a wise decision because the fans love that. It's like playing the album, but it's live. You hear the whole album, Yep.
Speaker 1:Let's see Moving. On August 19th, nickelback leaves the stage during the second song of their performance at the Aida Ilha do Irmão Festival in Portugal, after being relentlessly pelted with rocks and bottles by the crowd. Poor fucking Nickelback, that band just will never. They're infamous for not getting respect, but they still around. They never gave up.
Speaker 3:They don't get respect, but they have millions of fans go for it.
Speaker 4:It's fucking insane that is a bizarre, bizarre thing.
Speaker 3:I can't stand them, but they got a lot. They can still tour arenas. How many rock bands can do the Canadian right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so they can still tour. Oh yeah, I came up with a theory recently. So we talk about why Gordon Lightfoot isn't in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, we talk about why Joan El Armatrating isn't in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and there's a few others, and I believe it's because they spent the majority of their time in their country. Gordon Lightfoot just stayed in in Canada. He never. He didn't want to come back to LA and do all albums and get into that. He was, he did it already. He didn't like it, right. And Joan Armatrating spends most of her time over in England Right, good point, doing her thing, making her albums over there. And I think the, the, the, the idiots at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame take that as a, as a slight while they didn't spend enough time. It's not a, you know, it's not a country it's area.
Speaker 3:Okay, but Jay Giles band spends a lot of time in the U? S and they're still not in.
Speaker 1:Right, Right I.
Speaker 3:I, I, I, I, I. I don't think they belong, I don't think they, I really I think they're.
Speaker 1:They're kind of a B level rock band who never really like hit the big big time. They were popular, they were good radio music, but I don't think Jay Giles band was like over the top great Are they seen as heroes in Boston, like oh yeah, yeah, local heroes, yeah, like.
Speaker 1:Al Smith and the cars, and you know they, of course they're probably number on Boston, so I'd say they're probably number four on that list. Okay, you know. So where were we? Uh, august 27th, Queens of the Stone Age released their critically acclaimed album Songs for the Deaf Good album Featuring Dave Grohl on drums. September 3rd 2002. Napster is shut down for good after a judge denies a bid from Burlesman to purchase its assets and I got about 10,000 songs off that thing.
Speaker 3:I was just going to say fuck them, because people got to pay for their music.
Speaker 1:But you got 10,000 long. I've said it a number of times when I went into you know it was called uh coconuts. It was a record store down the street from me in Hollywood and I wanted to buy London calling the CD and it was like $24 back in 1999.
Speaker 1:It was $24. I was like, are you fucking kidding me? Absolutely, this thing has made its money twice already. What are you charging $24 for a CD? You know why? Because they were banking on our generation, the late baby boomers, who wanted to replace their vinyl collection with CD collection and wanted to replace every album they had in the. So the record company is trying to capitalize on that. They'll charge $24 in 1999 for a fucking London calling by the clash. I was like, oh no, no, I went into work the next day. One guy worked with the computer whiz and other guy they were telling me all about DSL and this. That get Napster, da, da, da. And I went in. At first I didn't have DSL. I was like one song took like 40 minutes to download. Right, I got DSL. Buddy, it was screaming I would come home from work and I don't. I thought anything I could think of, anything I could think of. I just downloaded it. I'm like you know what? Screw the record industry, I don't care.
Speaker 3:You got a good point. I mean, when vinyl was out and cassettes were out, you didn't go broke buying an album. No, I spent $6.99, max, $9.99, cassettes, whatever. Yeah, the industry came out with a great format. Cd is my favorite format. If it's done right, it's what the artist heard in the studio. You are hearing a great. But $19.99 for some old album, that's their fault, the greedy, greedy, you know.
Speaker 1:And that's that was like. I was like nah, and I'm sorry for the artists but I'm not sorry.
Speaker 3:They made their money.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I'm not sorry.
Speaker 3:Actually, if you had bought London calling, they would have gotten maybe five cents from the $19.99.
Speaker 1:So yeah, yeah, so yeah, I was one of those naps to rebels. September 4th, kelly Clarkson becomes the first winner television contest American Idol. Wow, a long time ago.
Speaker 1:Remember the kid that was with her, jason, I think. He had like this, was that his name? It was this big deal. He had this like really kind of afro I think he was biracial and I forget his name but they tried to like oh, they tried to capitalize on that, you know, kelly and whatever his name was, justin, justin or something like that, and like they made a movie with those two in it, they tried to make them like this whole that was a flop and the kid just kind of fizzled out. Well, kelly, good for her for having longevity. God bless her.
Speaker 3:I think she's the only winner that's had a good career. None of you had a winner. Ruben Stoddard had one album. He never heard of it again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know there was a few, but they never really. The dude with the gray hair, it looked like Michael McDonald. That dude like that was like they never really go on to be that successful. It's the people that I remember when the Zach Brown band was in there. Is that they were?
Speaker 1:I didn't know, yeah, yeah, they got voted off Like they got, cause they were good. Yeah, well they. They went on to become Fantasia. Yeah, kevin Krogan, fantasia Barrera, I think her name was. Yeah, she went on to kind of do nothing. I think she might have done some Broadway or something. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3:You know it is that they're not ready for that. They get offered all these things and if you take the wrong offer, your career is. Kelly Clarkson was smart. She obviously knew what she was doing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then there's the blonde girl, but she didn't win it, but she, she's a I think she's a country girl.
Speaker 3:There's. There were a few that didn't finish, but they became kind of famous, they became real winners.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Zach Brown band is still around today.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, they're like the grateful debt of that. That. Carry on to it, yeah, todd West.
Speaker 1:Sprocket finally contributes something to the show. Thank God it wasn't through a phone call.
Speaker 3:By the way, I'm turning the phone off just just the fact that he said Sammy Agar is one of the best shows you ever saw. I agree Sammy Agar is great.
Speaker 1:I hear, I hear he puts on a great show.
Speaker 3:He's the blue collar of rock and roll. He just he comes out and does his best every time.
Speaker 1:Let's see September 11th 2002. Maria Fredrickson of Rockset is injured in a domestic accident Ooh, leading to the discovery of a brain tumor. Ooh, I remember she died from that. Oh yeah, september 20th 2002. Courtney Love I love Courtney Love, always loved her. I don't care what anybody says.
Speaker 3:She had the best songwriters. Right now it's for her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that, that, that second album, lived through this, yeah, perfect album it's got a perfect album.
Speaker 1:It really is. I love that album. Let's see. Courtney Love announces that her legal dispute with the surviving members of Nirvana has been resolved, paving the way for the unreleased track. You know you're right to be included in an upcoming compilation. So September 25th 2002, disney Radio, radio Disney Jam's volume five gets released onto CD. Oh God I know, september 28th 2002. A stretch of Tennessee State wrote 19, is officially named for Tina Turner, who was born and raised in nearby Nutbush Tennessee.
Speaker 3:There you go. It went up to the city limits.
Speaker 1:Yeah, October 2nd Robbie Williams signs a new six album deal with EMI for 80 million pounds.
Speaker 3:Jimmy Page's favorite name.
Speaker 1:Achnemesis Achnemesis. Also on October 2nd 2002, christine Aguilera releases a controversy of music video for the song Dirty Uh, the lead single from her second album stripped. And I say dirty because it's D I R R T Y yeah not the you are R?
Speaker 1:T. See, I'm doing the podcast. I have to say R R instead of ah. Ah, I have to be like Jersey or R. Yeah, uh, it's D? I R T Y, october 23rd. While driving home from a studio session, kanye West falls asleep at the wheel and gets in a head on crash, causing his jaw to be wired shut. Well, a lot of people wish his jaw was still wired shut, Right, right, especially the Jewish people.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Kanye, Kanye.
Speaker 3:Kanye take him in.
Speaker 1:Kanye take the meds. He Kanye get out of his own way.
Speaker 3:And you do it.
Speaker 4:No.
Speaker 1:Uh, October 24th 2002, Mikey Bug Cox is fired from Cole Chamber. Who cares? October 26th 2002. Once again, Christina Aguilera releases her controversial second studio album, stripped, which enters Burt billboard 200 at number two, selling 330,000.
Speaker 3:Got it. I'm a big Christina Aguilera fan.
Speaker 1:Ah, this is a sad day. On October 30th 2002. That never been solved, I don't think. Jammaster J, the DJ for Run DMC, is shot dead at a studio in Queens. Yeah, yeah, after that, run DMC disbands. Uh, warren Zeevon, who was recently been diagnosed with cancer, is the sole guest for the entire hour of the late show at David Latta. Yeah, it would be a final public performance, great episode. Uh, let's see. Also on October 30th 2002, stone Temple pilots play their last show for six years at some arena in Woodlands, texas. Uh, november 7th, guns and roses fans in Vancouver riot. That was the infamous uh, uh, when he walked off the stage, which?
Speaker 1:took off the bands for us two or nine years canceled, axel Rose, fighting, getting delayed. You know when.
Speaker 3:Montreal when they had that riot cause, james Hatfield was uh, he got hit, he had burned by the pyros and he was burned and they said all guns roses had to do is come out and do the show and Axel refused cause his monitors weren't working. What an asshole. Yeah, complete asshole.
Speaker 1:On November 10th 2002, check this one out Mick Jagger, keith Richards, elvis Costello, lenny Kravitz, tom Petty and Brian Setzer guest on an episode of Hmm.
Speaker 3:Saturday Night Live the Simpsons oh, they had the who on two ones They've had everybody at a rock and roll fantasy camp.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's a lot of beef right there. It's a lot of money, Uh. November 12th 2002, Rap Rock Band Crazy Town released their second studio album, butterflies. The only answer gets come my lady, come, come. Oh yeah, Lose favorite song yeah, baby. November 19th 2002, Michael Jackson dangles his nine month old son blanket over the balcony of his Berlin hotel room in a parent attempt to connect with fans below. He released a statement later that day calling incident a terrible mistake. Yeah, the only reason he did is cause the fucking world went crazy.
Speaker 3:That's Scott. When you started that sentence with, michael Jackson dangled his nine, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Uh. November 26th 2002, will Smith releases his first compilation album Uh. Greatest hits full of remakes.
Speaker 3:I thought it was called samples.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly. Uh, let's see. November 29th 2002, concert for George is held at the Royal Albin Hall in London and Memorial to George Harrison. That was the first anniversary of his death. Yeah, uh. Under the musical direction of friend Eric Clapton, performers include surviving Beatles members Paul McCartney, ringo Starr, uh Clapton, jeff Lynn, ravi Shankar and Billy Preston. And the son who looked just like him Looks just like him. Yeah, uh. November 30th 2002, british girl band Girls Allowed. Who cares? December 2nd 2002, peter Garrett leaves midnight oil. The lead singer.
Speaker 3:I think so yeah.
Speaker 1:There's not to be a politician.
Speaker 3:So then they tried to continue with Adam right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, oh, they needed it. Can't with the weird looking bald guy up front. Kind of like Bill Crate's in turntables.
Speaker 3:I was going to say, unless they get another weird head in a ball. Uh, you would look like the guy from fucking Hills, have Eyes. Yes, that's what I thought the first time I saw him and did yeah, and at dance he did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, that.
Speaker 1:Not a lot of staying power in their music.
Speaker 3:I don't think it's very 80s, oh, but their fans still talk about him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. December 3rd 2002, McCartney, Mariah Carey releases her ninth studio album, Chamber Bracelet. December 6th another riot over a canceled Guns N' Roses concert breaks out, this time in Philadelphia. What? A bunch of beat the hell out of each other.
Speaker 3:I saw a riot because of Guns N' Roses and they were the opening band. I have them.
Speaker 1:Axel Rose is a no show, the band cancels the remaining days of the tour without explanation. Oh Jesus, december 22nd. No, this one sucked. This one hurt, this one hurt. I can tell you there's very few that that happened in rock. That hurt this one kind of hurt. December 22nd 2002, joe Strummer oh yeah, from the clash dies of congenital hot defect at the age of 50. That sucked, I think. My friend Phil Kelly sent me a text and he said it was like losing an old drinking buddy.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think that was put at best.
Speaker 3:That's one that hurts. There's four or five that died. That really hurt, and that's one of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this was the beginning of the end for this band. On December 29th 2002, a creed concert in Chicago Angus fans and attendance. When lead singer Scott Sapp forgets many lyrics, makes a lengthy leave of absence in the middle of the show and lies down on the stage, we're part of that. I've never seen a video of this. Yeah, me too. The band's manager issues are written apology. That includes a statement. We hope that you can take some solace in the fact that you definitely experienced the most unique of all creed shows and may have become part of the unusual world of rock and roll. Now, now, no, nobody was looking that. That is a Jim Morrison experience.
Speaker 4:No no.
Speaker 1:That's an unusual experience and, jim, that's why I said before people went to see the doors, it was the Jim Morrison experience. What are you going to get from him? It was everything. That was the show. That's why you went. You didn't go to see Rayman Zerrick, but John Dentsmore, you know, or Robbie Krieger. You went to see what Jim Morrison was going to do.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was the show. Crete fans looked at Scott Step as a way like I looked at Bono as a very good performer and I looked up to him. But they looked at, they elevated him to something and then he's just a mere mortal and I think that caught up with him. It was around that time he did that MTV appearance. He was drunk. Remember that? Who was drunk? Scott Step, scott.
Speaker 1:Step. Yeah, he was definitely.
Speaker 3:Like I elevated. I've always loved Bono, but he never put on a bad show. Scott Step was elevated to that status and he couldn't perform and they were not that good of them.
Speaker 1:They weren't that good? No, they just sounded like Pearl Jam. Another band that sounded like Pearl Jam.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'll admit, eyes Wide Open is an epic ballad. I'll take you higher, all right, but as far as a whole album, the guitar playing is so pedestrian it sounds like somebody's sitting in a guitar center playing, you know. Yeah, I don't want to rip them, but yeah, they wrote.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and finally, on December 31st, there's no, well, there's no Dick Clark rocking New Year's Eve on this one, december 31st 2002, fish and the two year hiatus with the New Year's Eve concert, madison Square Garden.
Speaker 3:Never got into him yeah you know me.
Speaker 4:I didn't either.
Speaker 1:I'm a dead fan but I don't. So there was a lot of um, there was a lot of bands that were formed, that really I looked at, bands that were formed. Let me see Someone tells a story about Bono that I kind of wonder about what that he had, his hot sweaty balls on the back of my neck. Yeah, it's true, you want to smell my neck?
Speaker 3:Was he wearing powder, Scott? I don't know.
Speaker 1:It did smell like Johnson and Johnson afterwards, though, so there were really nothing. I looked at the groups that were formed in 2002 as fucking a big nothing. I hate this. I hate that term. It's a nothing burger that that was good for like a week, yeah, yeah, and everybody's like it's a big nothing burger. Don't ever say that in my presence, by the way. Okay, don't Like, I will come, I will come after you. Okay, boss, aggressively. How about nothing, frank?
Speaker 3:So bands that broke up, though, in 2002, there's a number of them.
Speaker 1:It's interesting, 2002, allison Chains broke up. Of course they got back together but you know was never the same. But the original the black crows, broke up in 2002. Bush broke up in 2002. Bush was good man. They were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were.
Speaker 1:I saw them in concert. I worked at a concert security for one of their shows. I think they backed up. No, they didn't back up, it was. I think it was. It was Bush and cheap trick. Oh wow yeah, cheap trick opened up for Bush and they. They were great. That's when the dude gave me his guitar. He handed it down to me from the stage, but Bush was really good. I think they're back out touring. Actually, let me see, culture club broke up in 2002. You would have thought they broke up a lot earlier than I know. Only a kid from Throp gets away with that stunt. That's right, buddy. Kevin Cochum knows Legend in that time the dog pound, the THA. They thought they would be in Sweden. They broke up. That was a. That was a. That was a. That was a. That was a. That was a Snoop Dogg thing, of course. Okay, let's see who else. Emf I think EMF was unbelievable.
Speaker 1:Oh one hit wonder. They were one of those bands that suffered the best new artist curse. The gravediggers broke up. They were a kind of a. They were like a horror rap. They tried to find their own niche. Oh yeah, they were just like they. You know, they were always dark and dressed in black and they were trying. It was kind of a you know a thing for a minute. The group gay dad. Gay dad broke up in 2002.
Speaker 1:Never had a. Never had a, yeah, yeah. But then it became legal again to get married. They became legal, so they got married finally, and they're still together today.
Speaker 3:They're called legal bad.
Speaker 1:You know, the stats show that gay marriages have a larger percentage of divorce than heterosexual marriage.
Speaker 3:Well, I always said when it was legalized, I said I'm happy, that's fine, I really have nothing against it. Welcome to divorce. And a lot of people got married quickly. Yep, and what happens when people get married quickly? It's a mistake.
Speaker 1:There you go. Yeah, Uh, whole. Speaking of Courtney loves band whole. They broke up in 2002. This is now. This is kind of weird Humble pie.
Speaker 3:What it must have reformed.
Speaker 1:Oh no, it had to. Were. They one of those like okay, I was the, I'm the oldest, I've been in the band the longest, so I'm the head of the band like second incarnation guy, and he keeps taking it.
Speaker 3:I think they reformed in the 80s because all the original guys, like one guy, went on to do fast way and yeah, I think, yeah.
Speaker 1:Now why would anyone start to have a band with the first name Judas other than Judas priest? Don't you think that that's kind of a hard, a hard sell? Yeah, and this is carry it. Why would you even try it? It's so typical. Why would you even try it? Yeah, the. Kaiser's. Let's see who else broke up in 2002?. Mega death broke up in 2002.
Speaker 4:Let me see.
Speaker 1:I like them. Minute work broke up in 2002. Midnight oil broke up in 2002. There you go, yeah In sync broke up in 2002. They took that 90s money and ran, yeah, and Justin Timberlake right, mm, hmm, yeah. There's always one that pops out of these bands, that really takes off.
Speaker 3:I like his new single.
Speaker 1:I never had any problem with it. You know why I said when I started liking him is when his longevity started to show, yeah, and then he started to have a little bit of maturity to him and he could. He was actually kind of a cool personality. He had a lot of what do you call it? You're good at it, I'm good at it when you self deprivation, yeah, yeah. Like he had no problem laughing at the whole in sync thing and then he was doing acting.
Speaker 3:He was doing all this stuff. Yeah, he didn't have to put out an album. He put out the 2020 experience. It shows he still wants to make music. You got to admire that, yeah. And he's talented Kids talented. He wrote one of the biggest songs ever in the history of R&B Dick in the box.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he can't beat that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, making fun. He was self deprecating, I love that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, nobody did it better than George Michael. He's the one that showed how to do it. He's the one that showed how to do it. Yeah, for the, for the, for the new generation of you know. Let's see who else broke up in 2002. Pulp they were a British band. I had a couple of hits. Yeah, let's see Run DMC. Well, we know why. I just covered that earlier. Suzy and the Banshee's broke up in 2002.
Speaker 3:Peek-a-boo.
Speaker 1:I, you know, I, I want to like them. City and Dust is a classic 80s. That's one of. That's an 80s anthem. Yeah, I don't like the dear Prudence cover. I never really like. I wanted to like them but I just really couldn't. I would, I'd listen to them, but I was never a big fan.
Speaker 3:It's hit and miss with me. I love some of their stuff and I can't stand some of their stuff.
Speaker 1:Like Kate Bush man, she's a hit and miss with me. I either love one of their songs. The ones I like, I love oh yeah. The ones I don't, I don't like them. There's no like that's an okay song. Yeah, stabbing Westwood broke up in 2002. That sounds familiar. They had. They had a couple of minor hits. Statla Brothers broke up in 2002.
Speaker 2:Whoa.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they made made very famous from pulp fiction. Yeah, that's when Bruce Willis is singing, when he's driving in his car before he comes across my cellist Wallace.
Speaker 4:And then the fucker he pulls out his gun and then, when he goes over, when they go in the pawn shop.
Speaker 3:That greasy, sweaty guy sitting there listening to song on yeah, yeah, yeah. Who would sit like this listening to Statla Brothers?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I thought what am I? My brother's in calling me. He says the Igno's broke up in 2002. That's probably about right. The Igno's was this kind of gang that we hung out with growing up. They was a very unique group of individuals. I was like I think I was second generation. Literally it was like there's generations of them, not related like some were, but it was just like younger kids would just show up and start hanging out and then the older ones would move on and we'd move up in. Another group Came in and just kind of we all hung out and it was, like I said, very unique group of people. Yeah, super Tramp broke up.
Speaker 3:Oh, smitty, bottle number four no, Glass number two, and I'm only showing them quarter way.
Speaker 1:There you go.
Speaker 3:There you go, Listen quarter, not quarter.
Speaker 1:Super Tramp yep broke up in 2002, and that's about it. Ziggy Mali and the Melody Makers broke up in 2002. Kevin Corkham says some of the Igno's never left. That's true. Some died, literally died Igno's, and that's it for them. That's it for them Now, before, before we move on. So let me cancel this out. Let me cancel this out. Before we move on to movies. It's time for yes, love it.
Speaker 3:The Lou, it's going to be different.
Speaker 1:You and me right now. All right.
Speaker 4:My mic keeps fucking Damn it.
Speaker 3:Keeps writing down on me, did you turn on Iron man?
Speaker 1:Yeah, he could help. So my audio is good. Is it dropping in and out? Am I going to be?
Speaker 3:It's not dropping out. It's like I said, it's got that gated sound where if you go lower it kind of gets muted. We're not losing any words. And you're a lot less bassy. Your voice is kind of thinner tonight. It sounds like a radio broadcast to me.
Speaker 1:I'm going to have to have you come on, we'll do like just a recording. Yeah, and I got to get the gate and all that stuff straightened out.
Speaker 3:Once you lose that, yeah, it takes forever to get it back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I had it on my old system, I had it down, it was perfect. But then you change over and it's never the same.
Speaker 3:I know you like a bassy voice. Yeah, you're not getting it with this.
Speaker 1:So we're going to I mean, I got to get you on, probably before next show.
Speaker 1:Okay, just like 20 minutes. Yeah, sure, you know and you can. I can go through the settings and you can kind of, because I'm still not a hundred percent on some of these settings. Yeah, but, like I said, you got to really fine tune it. All right, here we go. You make the call. All right, robert Kirkman says I sound feminine. Oh dear, what's the matter, honey? Jealous Bitch, I was going to say it too Bitch. All right, here we go. Uh, you make the call. Stevie Nicks edition. Okay, uh well, stevie verse. Fleetwood Mac, edge of 17. Edge of 17.
Speaker 3:Oh, a gypsy, oh no, no, no contests, love them both, but edges 17. Uh, wadi Wattel, you can't beat that guitar track. I love gypsy.
Speaker 1:I got to go with gypsy. I just like the thing. Uh, rick, rick says he loves me, rick is, I love Rick too, just not in that way. Rick is my gay friend, he's our gay friend. He knows he's an attractive man, don't get me wrong, he's an attractive man, shows going off, he's just. He's just not my style.
Speaker 3:So who is your style?
Speaker 2:Well, it ain't Rick.
Speaker 3:You opened up to that one.
Speaker 1:It certainly isn't Dr Pork Shop. So, all right, eric Clapton. All right, you make the call Eric Clapton edition. Okay, uh, lay down, sally, or it's in the way that you use it.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's in the way you use it. That is grand eighties overproduced. Love it Lay down Sally, I'm just freaking tired of I'm tired of that song.
Speaker 1:I got to go with it's in the way you use it too.
Speaker 3:And also his playing in the seventies. As much as I loved a lot of that music, it was wimpy, he was like ding ding, ding, ding.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's very picky.
Speaker 3:In the eighties he got back to heavy distortion, you know and yeah. And that was. That was in that movie with Tom Cruise and Paul Newman.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the second, the second part, two of the color of money.
Speaker 3:Yeah, color of money, that's what it was.
Speaker 1:It was the color of money, yeah, which was the part two of the hustler Yep which Paul Newman wins best supporting actor Right. You know he gets, he gets a best actor. I think he gets best best actor, I think, in the color of money, where he didn't deserve it but because he should have got, he should have got a best actor for the hustler Right.
Speaker 3:Did you?
Speaker 1:see the hustler. Yeah, oh yeah. He should have got best actor that year. He got stiffed. Yeah, this was kind of a makeup thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that album August, and the one before it, behind the Sun. A lot of people pan those albums because it was Phil Collins produced. That's some of my favorite Clapton music because he wasn't trying to be a blues man, he was trying to make pop songs and it was great songs. And I think, by the way, the bot said some parries on. He said it might be true.
Speaker 4:It might be a.
Speaker 3:Robbie Robinson song.
Speaker 1:It may be. Yeah, okay, here we go. Steve Winwood edition. You make the call. Okay, valerie, or higher love.
Speaker 3:Valerie, it's such a great positive tune. It's great.
Speaker 1:The best thing I ever see. Go ahead, but I gotta go.
Speaker 4:Think about it. It can be higher love.
Speaker 1:I just I saw that tour. He was fucking great.
Speaker 3:That was his biggest peak, I think, in his whole career.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was a big album for him by the way Robbie Robinson it's not after show. I was having sex the other half in the arena In the bathroom.
Speaker 1:No, oh God Up in the up in like the stadium scene. They had like a bar up there, the Providence Civic Center, and you could get a drink and then go into this like little amphitheater type thing and they had the glass and the speakers in there so you could drink there and watch a show and it wasn't that crowded. I had met this girl during the show and well, like the fix said, one thing leads to another.
Speaker 2:It's put in his way.
Speaker 1:People started leaving. It was no, no discretion, just go, people Go. They evidently didn't want to show that show. It was quite the experience.
Speaker 3:By the way, robbie Robinson did co-write. It's in a way that he used it. Okay, harry was right.
Speaker 1:Let's see. Okay, steve Perry. Steve Perry, you make the call oh sherry edition. Okay, oh sherry, or separate ways. That's a journey song.
Speaker 3:Oh, I love, oh sherry. That is such a good song, especially in the morning when you have a cup of coffee and that comes on. But separate ways was a heavy fucking track. That was a good song. I'm going to go with separate ways.
Speaker 1:I got to go with oh sherry.
Speaker 4:Are you going to do it again?
Speaker 3:Yeah, you hear that echoing around the house on a nice summer morning.
Speaker 1:I saw a video the other day where they isolated his vocals. It's fucking amazing. Yeah, he was great. He was great in his prime, he was great, but I could hear how he could blow out his vocal chords.
Speaker 3:Well, I got his last solo album. It came out like five years ago.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he tried that.
Speaker 3:It's okay, but it's hurts to hear him string.
Speaker 1:My brother says 80s garbage, 4am, mtv, blow, blow music. You know what that is? Yeah, on a Wednesday morning, oh Jesus, I know that. Then you said you're fucking killing me. Well, sorry, bro Stories you probably never wanted to hear your brother tell.
Speaker 3:This is a producer fight here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, all right, here we go. 80s, 80s version. You make the call Dance hall days, my wang chung, or it's my life by talk, talk, oh Jesus.
Speaker 3:This was a tough one for me.
Speaker 4:I love both those songs.
Speaker 3:I'm going to go with dance hall days because it's just the memories I have of hearing that that was such a good rhythm on it.
Speaker 1:Such a great rhythm, great beginning, great opening. Oh yeah, very unique for its time. They would just kind of unique with that song. Yeah, actually, one of their best songs is to live and die in LA.
Speaker 3:Absolutely Off the soundtrack yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, of the movie where the star dies like halfway through the movie, like whoa, what just happened there? Like you think he's the star, right? Nope.
Speaker 3:I never saw the movie, so I'm not going to watch it now.
Speaker 1:Well, you don't know which one I'm talking about. There's multiple people in it, kind of like when Steve was the movie wasn't bad. It was the first ever. If I'm not mistaken, that was the first ever like recorded bungee jump. Oh, okay, because at one point in the movie there's a bungee, there's a someone does a bungee jump, and it was. It's from, recorded from there. It was pretty, it's pretty. I think it's in the video too. Check out the video.
Speaker 4:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:I have to go with. It's my life. I love dance hall days, but it's my life is talk. Talk was so very kind of underrated band. Yeah, they were more talented than their, than the hits that you know were on the radio. They were a good band. They were actually a good band. Let's see. Okay, 80s, more 80s I can dream about you. Or sledgehammer.
Speaker 3:Back then I would have said I can dream about you because when I was young I hated sledgehammer, but I've grown to really like sledgehammer, so I'm going to go with sledgehammer.
Speaker 1:I got to go with. I can dream about you Just moving sidewalks. It's just a Dan Hockman, right, yeah.
Speaker 3:And and and he's not doing this in the video. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:And it came from a really like cult cult following movie.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:You remember the name of it Streets of fire. Yeah With. Diane Lang so bad, it was good.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Willem Defoe in that, like in that, like gay biker outfit, leather fucking like overalls, tight overalls, and it's really bizarre movie man.
Speaker 3:That was. That was his second best role to Boondock Saints.
Speaker 1:Oh, what was up with him. And that's right, all right. This is a tough one, buddy.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:Are you ready?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I am ready.
Speaker 1:You're wearing your shoes. No, I can't get my wine bottle out of the cooler bag. Well, take your time by all. Oh, no, go, go, go, take your time, I don't care, you can hear me as well. You're doing that.
Speaker 3:It's my second, not my fourth.
Speaker 1:You make the call 70s edition. All right, dust in the wind, or midnight train to Georgia, fuck you. That's not because you know I make these up, and they're tough for me.
Speaker 3:You know I love Kansas and my heart goes with Kansas and I. It's a great song, but I really got to go with midnight train to Georgia.
Speaker 1:Dust in the wind on midnight train to Georgia Dust in the wind is fucking great.
Speaker 3:It's a classic.
Speaker 1:It's a 70s classic, absolutely.
Speaker 3:Night train to Georgia is one hell of a song.
Speaker 1:Big head, todd the wet sprocket said, got to sign off picking up my phone and this is not a G.
Speaker 2:There, you go buddy.
Speaker 1:There you go. I love you buddy. He knows I love. I love to hate him. Let's see, perry Denovich says fuck.
Speaker 4:Fuck.
Speaker 2:Kansas.
Speaker 1:Bob Kirkman, Dr Porkchop said midnight train Call him a claim says smitty.
Speaker 3:It's gotta be S C H.
Speaker 1:That's how my name is, smitty. I got to go midnight train also and that's a tough. That was tough and I put this together and it was hard for me. I don't make up my mind. I just look at two songs I'm like, yeah, that's a good kind of, and then I don't, I move on. I don't try to make a decision at that time because it's going to affect how I put it together. All right, here we go A 70s, 70s right, more 70s, but 70s kind of club music, okay, and I don't think the first one is disco, but it's like a dance on. Okay. So you make the call LaBelle, lady, mama Lane, or this is a battle of the sisters. Okay, cause the bell are all sisters or sister sledge. We are family, lady mama laid by LaBelle, or we are family by sister sledge.
Speaker 3:That's easy for me. I was never a fan of we are family. I think it's a commercial used it, but lady Marmalade's a great song.
Speaker 1:I'm going to go with it. Yeah, I got I got to go.
Speaker 3:It's kind of a sleeper because we are family, was a big hit yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, remember the uh, what was the 70, 70, 76, 70, 77,? Uh, pittsburgh pirates with Willie Stodgel, was that? Was that about right Seven, it was that 78. It's in that that area. They use it as their theme song.
Speaker 3:Really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they went to the world series. Yeah, uh, let me see. Okay, two more to go. Eighties version you make the call Eighties version Dancing with myself. Kevin Corkins is 78. So I was right. Yeah, I was in that 78 dancing with myself, or I'll melt with you.
Speaker 3:I can melt. I can definitely relate to the subject matter of dancing with myself. But uh, I'll melt with you is a great song. I'm going with that. That's a beautiful, like a beautiful pop song.
Speaker 1:You know, they did a remake in the nineties of that. Just because it was, it became popular again and they were like, well, let's put it out again. They kind of they had a video and it's kind of psychedelic and the field of flowers and it was. You can see a slight difference in the, in the way they did it. Yeah, Uh, okay, it was 79. Okay, that was it for the pirates Pittsburgh pirates 78.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Sorry, I was nine years old. I remember that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you remember that, I remember that, I remember that, I remember that.
Speaker 4:So yeah, so yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 3:I remember that.
Speaker 1:I remember that too I remember that too, but I think it was a great song to do.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was like oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Yeah, you know what that was great songs again.
Speaker 1:There's no. There's no wrong answer.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there should be a single, but he might be watching and cheating.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so well, fuck him then. He misses this one. No we gotta ask him. All right, here we go. 90s, the final one, 90s edition. Okay, 90s edition, you make the call. Okay, stone Temple Pilots plush that. Pearl Jam Jeremy.
Speaker 3:I Love them both. Yeah, both good songs. I'll tell you what, when they when I'm gonna have to go with Jeremy, because when Stone Temple put that album out, that song, it was like everyone thought it was like they were just copying Pearl Jam. And it wasn't their fault, it was the record label's fault. They tried to make them sound like that. Jeremy is a powerful fucking song, just really powerful. I love the beginning with the bass Dun dun, dun, dun dun. Yeah, I'm going with Jeremy, Jeremy.
Speaker 1:It took me a while to figure out that he shot himself at the end of the video. I didn't get it. I thought he shot like into the. But then it took me like three or four times to see the video, see the kid with his hands up and his blood coming on his hands from this kid shooting himself in front of the class. Right and Plush is a fucking depressing song because it's based on a girl Pauly classic. A kid napped out of her bedroom in California and the guy raped or murdered her. So they're both pretty depressed, you know, like really dark songs.
Speaker 3:It was the 90s for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, but I got to go with Plush. I just love that song. I love Jeremy, but I love that, you know what's his name?
Speaker 3:And Jeremy his. His face is manic in that video.
Speaker 1:He's like uh, uh, you know he's they didn't want to do videos either.
Speaker 3:That was like they were forced to do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. Well, that's where the money was at my friend, that's where the money was at All right. So, let's, let's get into, let's do some movies from 2002. All right, yeah, let's do some movies. Oh, I got a few. Yeah, ah, let's see you start off.
Speaker 3:Okay, I still watch to stay at least twice a year Christopher Nolan film, insomnia with Robin Williams and Scent of a Woman, al Pacino. But it's takes place in Alaska during the summer solstice. Al Pacino is a detective from LA. He can't sleep because of the sun up all the time, because he's also guilty of something. So you really feel as you're watching it that you can't sleep. But it's a Robin Williams. It was one of his first roles where he played like the bad guy. Very good movie.
Speaker 1:Right, right. I don't know why my computer is doing this to me. It's, it's, it's really lagging right now. So You're lagging. Oh, that was bad. No, you're lagging, not me, you. Not you're lagging, not me, you, you. Two snaps, here we go. All right, it popped up 2002, the Lord of the Rings, the two towers.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I remember seeing those when they came out, that was like epic. Like I in my life, having lived through Star Wars, never saw epics like those battle scenes.
Speaker 1:So the first one came was that. That wasn't the first one, right, Was that?
Speaker 3:the first one, no.
Speaker 1:That was the second, so the first one, so my first wife God God rest her soul we used to go on Christmas Eve we'd go to church, right, we'd go to church every Christmas Eve. And one year I just said, well, let's kind of change it up. I mean, you know we go to church. But I said, let's, let's surprise the kids. And so I told her this and she says, okay, all right, she kind of gives in. And they said so, when are we going to church? I said we're going to a different church this year. She goes what do you mean? They're different church. What do you mean Go into the church of? And I hesitated the Lord of the Rings, and they were like what? I said, yeah, we'll go to the movies. They were like, yeah, and so it became a tradition on New Year's Eve, on Christmas Eve, to go see those, because the next one came out of Christmas, yeah, right. So yeah, it became like a running thing for like that was another movie at Christmas.
Speaker 3:I missy with my kids. My son was too young to see the first Lord of the Rings so I took my daughter but he saw him starting with the second one. That and the Harry Potter for me just traditions, like we'd always see the movies as it came out.
Speaker 4:you know yeah.
Speaker 3:And the Lord, I'll tell you I don't think I'll ever see battle scenes like they did. No, no, Holy shit.
Speaker 1:Not out of today's Hollywood buddy God.
Speaker 3:Well, that is just that. I think it was the first one that depicted those scenes.
Speaker 1:So if anyone else did it, but they were done so well they were done with care and time Right.
Speaker 3:If they're done now, it'll be like oh, you're just ripping off. You know, lord of the Rings, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, my brother says Mothman prophecies.
Speaker 3:That was a weird, oh yeah that was good, that was a weird one and that's based on. That was a rich of gear, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's based on well, True story yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's very popular.
Speaker 1:This one was this was a good one Born Identity.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:I love those movies.
Speaker 3:They gave James Bond a run for the money.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, absolutely. What do you got?
Speaker 3:Jack Nicholson. Dear Nogudu about Schmidt. Did you ever see that oh?
Speaker 1:I did see that yeah.
Speaker 3:When I watched the beginning where he says you know, his wife died and then he picks out the cheapest coffin for his wife and his daughter is like dad. I said I got this movie, I'm made for it. Great movie, just a classic Jack Nicholson movie.
Speaker 1:This is probably, not probably, in my opinion, one of the best zombie movies, top three best zombie movies ever made. If you've never seen it, you got to see it. It has a young. What's his name that that was started, piki Blinders.
Speaker 3:I know what you're gonna say.
Speaker 1:Oppenheimer? Yeah. What's his name? Cillian Murphy. Cillian Murphy, yeah, 28 days later.
Speaker 3:Oh, that movie All right. So when I was a little kid I had a living dead scared the shit out of me because I was little. Then you get used to zombie movies. It's funny this movie came out and they're running. It was scary shit. The scene in the tunnel and then the scene where they're like in the apartment at the top of the tower and they're running up the stairs Holy shit.
Speaker 1:So there was kind of an homage paid to Dawn of the Dead I think it was, or Day of the Dead at the beginning, and they actually Gorillaz does this on one of their songs and they start off every concert with this and it's hello, hello. They did that in Day of the Dead with the megaphone. There's a guy out in the street, he's going hello.
Speaker 1:And I believe Cillian Murphy does that. In 28 days later he's walking through the middle of London going hello, yes, so yeah, great Not to get off. The subject of zombie was vampire movies. Do you ever see 30 nights, 30 days of doc? Oh, in Alaska, yeah, fucking great vampire movie dude, that is like authentic vampire shit, the guy that played the head vampire.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, he's a good character actor.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that is one of the best. Like real vampire movies. You give you the chills.
Speaker 3:Where do you go?
Speaker 2:You're trapped and if you're a vampire, 30 days of doc yeah.
Speaker 3:If you're a vampire, you want that winter solstice in Alaska. And you got a town, you got.
Speaker 1:you got KFC 30 days of night, I think it was called. That is a fucking great vampire movie. Great vampire movie, but 28 days later is my pick for 2000s.
Speaker 3:I wish they had done more of those 28. They did 28 weeks later.
Speaker 1:They did 28 weeks later yeah.
Speaker 3:And it ended. They could have done more, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Sometimes you don't want to run into the ground. Quit while you're ahead. You got two great movies. Cause 28 weeks later was also a good movie. Yeah, but you know how far do you go with it? Look, they took the walking dead way too far. Yeah, you know, but people kept watching it and they still make money off it.
Speaker 3:They're still doing it, still people watching Fear of the Walking Dead.
Speaker 1:They got 30 more. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3:What do you got? I'm going to go with an epic gangs in New York. Oh yeah, butcher Bill, that was. That was Leonardo's big comeback after Titanic, right, I believe. And he proved himself like he wasn't a fluke with Titanic and that movie was just killer. Yeah, everything about it.
Speaker 1:I didn't see it for a while. I didn't see it when it first came out. And you know, let me see. My brother says Lord of the Rings, you went with me in Tampa. Okay, I still watch them. Kevin Corkham, I love the walking trees, yeah.
Speaker 2:War.
Speaker 1:There's Paul Hall Junkies. Hey, city of God. Fantastic, scott sent me a list. Okay, I'll send you a list. This was the kickoff to a very, still very successful franchise. It has never it's always a money maker, and this came out in 2002, spider-man with Toby McGuire.
Speaker 3:That's my personal favorite with Toby McGuire.
Speaker 1:That's what this one is right there. That's the Toby McGuire version right there.
Speaker 3:I did not get into the. There were two reboots. Sony redid it because they wanted to keep the rights and then they got the other guy. They're not bad, but Toby McGuire was the perfect.
Speaker 1:Yeah, To me Andrew what's? His name was good too.
Speaker 2:Garfield, yeah, andrew Garfield, oh yeah he was very good.
Speaker 1:They were all good yeah they're all good, but yeah, Spider-Man, it just has never lost money. It's a fucking. That thing prints money. Spider-man is the most popular comical character.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he is.
Speaker 3:Now, genius casting is when he got William Defoe to play yeah, green Goblin, hey Spidey-Man. Yeah, he was perfect.
Speaker 1:I got a green goblin statue right up here.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I do All right, who do you got?
Speaker 3:Okay, can we go disturbing Sure Auto focus? Remember that movie Auto focus no. The guy from Hogan's Heroes. What's his name? He's a bit of a pervert and he started taking his own Bob.
Speaker 1:Crane.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That film at his own porn and he got murdered.
Speaker 3:He hung out with a guy named John Carpenter. I was like is that the same guy. No, no, that was a pretty. You felt like when you watched it you were like ugh. Yeah, you could take a shower.
Speaker 1:You know? Yep, yep, this was a great movie. I've watched this a couple of times. Great line in the movie, and it's so true, so true. Paul Newman looks at Tom Hanks and says sons will put on this earth to trouble their fathers. Do you know the movie?
Speaker 3:Road to Perdition. Yep yeah.
Speaker 1:His last role. Sons will put on this earth to trouble their fathers.
Speaker 3:Yeah, great movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it really was.
Speaker 3:Really was a good fucking movie, those long scenes where it was sleeting like they're outside in this cold Midwestern rain just gave a great aura to the movie.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah. Give me a movie. Uh, did you do.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna go science fiction on you, Minority Report. I love that movie.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Pre-crime You're gonna commit a crime.
Speaker 1:Yep, yep, just think of this 2002, these two movies came out in the same year, right? So Lord of the Rings, the Two Towers, yeah, then Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets Mm-hmm, fucking Inspired. Like, look at, okay, look at the movies. This was only 22 years ago, yeah, like not a long time in Hollywood. But look at the difference in the quality that they fucking put out then, in the shit that they put out now.
Speaker 3:Because the movie studios, like the record labels, just wanna churn everything out. They don't look for epics anymore, you know.
Speaker 1:They don't look for quality writers and I'm sorry, here we go, but they hire on a fucking checklist. They don't have talent. They pushed all the talent out of Hollywood.
Speaker 3:I'll tell you, what, though Harry Potter in a way did?
Speaker 1:the checklist you saw, the students at Hogwarts covered everything but the effects the quality, but they didn't make it of the primary fucking purpose of the movie.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know what we need. The movie industry has to understand that there's people that will like those kind of movies and there's people that want movies like a Harry Potter. They just go where the money is, so they're just tagging along, yeah, they wanna make money.
Speaker 1:They're not, though, because they're not making money. Yeah well, they're not making money. Look at the list of fucking movies.
Speaker 3:But also don't forget 2002, we didn't have as much streaming, so they weren't getting competition from Netflix. It was.
Speaker 1:Well, streaming comes out later.
Speaker 3:Streaming comes out later.
Speaker 1:Everybody wants to go see a fucking good movie in a movie theater. Everybody does.
Speaker 3:I wanna kick myself for not seeing Oppenheimer in the theaters.
Speaker 1:I saw it and I'm like damn, I should have seen this Dude, my daughter, irene, fucking apple of my eye, my favorite person in the universe. Love my daughter, love her to death, love her favorite person. But she is the funniest fucking girl. Sometimes Doesn't even fucking mean it, so she has a tendency sometimes to mess up words. Yeah, so recently she's like hey, we went to breakfast and we were kinda sitting at the table. She goes yeah, I watched this movie, I watched a good movie last night and I said oh, yeah, yeah, what is it? She goes. She looks at me kinda confused. She says Oscar Maya. I said what? She goes, oscar Maya. I said fucking, oscar Maya, the, what do you? Is that some movies? She goes yeah, oscar Maya. I said all right, I didn't hear it. I didn't hear an Oscar Maya movie come out. She says but what's it about? She goes you know the guy that made the bomb? I said you mean Oppenheimer, just busted out laughing in the restaurant.
Speaker 4:We were both dying.
Speaker 1:Laughing in the restaurant. Could not stop laughing, Fucking. Yeah, Oscar Maya, the guy that built the bomb, oh my.
Speaker 3:God, I wish I could be Oscar, maya or weiner.
Speaker 1:Oh, my Lord, All right now. She'll never live that way down.
Speaker 3:Oh, I just got boned.
Speaker 1:Oh, you just see, let the fuse.
Speaker 3:You know what, though? Everything and I may have said this to you before everything's a cycle. What's going on now, in a few years, will be gone. Everything's a cycle.
Speaker 1:But we talked about that. Yeah, I used to well.
Speaker 3:My. Tarantino has a thing about the go on. I'm sorry. No, it's like music, right. I used to catch myself going all this music sucks now and I realized it's a cycle and you know, if you don't like what's going on, things change. There were some shitty movies in the 60s and 70s too, you know, and there were movies that you would disagree with. They were just stupid, you know.
Speaker 1:But see, like my brother said, there was no DEI. Like, look at the Oscars now, dude, look at the Oscars. There's, to be qualified for an Academy Award, you have to have X amount of disabled, black, as they call them, vulnerable population, gay, like they all have to be part of the making of the movie. So you're not hiring the best qualified. You're hiring, okay, mark Smith is a great cinematographer, but he's a white male and we have a black lesbian over here who's also a cinematographer. We have to meet our quota. So we're gonna sorry, mark, we're gonna put her in your spot. You're not hiring the best quality cinematographer for the job because it literally says literally, go look it up, I'm not making this shit up. The Academy Awards has a new date. To be qualified, you have to meet X amount, which is why would I wanna make a movie. So, and I said, what you're gonna get is a whole bunch of rebel directors that are gonna eventually say fuck that shit. I wanna do Quentin Tarantino style and just go total rogue and make a good fucking movie.
Speaker 3:Who cares about the Academy Award? You just made a good point because first of all, the quota thing it's.
Speaker 1:You know I'm not it's affirmative action, just all over again.
Speaker 3:You know what, though? There was a legitimate thing to say that some people didn't get jobs because of who they were, but you just made a good point Like directors going rogue. Just like in the early 70s you had a bunch of directors going rogue against the standard, we're gonna get some really good fucking movies If these directors go rogue. It's just gonna. There'll be an evolution of movies, and that's that's an evolution of things. So you got something that comes about. Ah shit, this is fucking everything up, but it begets something else, see back then.
Speaker 1:So Quentin Tarantino did the whole life cycle of Hollywood. He goes the 40s was very dark. The 40s movies were very dark movies. There was dark undertones and dark you know meanings of some of these movies. And then you get into the 50s where everything becomes like kind of bubblegum. We need to clean it up and we need to make this. Then you get into the 60s where they're still following a standard but it gets a little starts to kind of stretch the boundaries. Then you get into the 70s where they go like you know the 70s was the glory days of Grindhouse movies.
Speaker 1:You know, it was tits and ass everywhere and they were dropping, they were swearing and they were, you know, 70s. Then the 80s comes around and they start trying to come up and clean it up a little bit. Let's clean it up a little bit, but what they weren't doing back then that they're doing today is that they're singling out specific, they're pushing it in your face. We're gonna race swap Gilligan's Island and Gilligan is now gonna be a Latino. Okay, this is what they do today. They don't have anything original.
Speaker 3:I can see why you don't like it.
Speaker 1:I totally get it it doesn't bother me Because it's not original. It's cheap, it's lazy.
Speaker 3:But I would rather have that than you. Just another good point you brought up in the 50s. I've studied what was coming Like. We talked about this on the other, on on on shit music, relish and oh, perry's watching too. We talked about rock and roll, how in the 50s it was putzified. Basically it was like moral, everything had to be nice and clean, and that to me is far worse. I at least. Now, with movies, we can still get cursing and we get whatever. But I hear you, I mean it's, I'm telling you it's gonna correct itself. Just like, give it time. Everything comes around, everything comes around.
Speaker 1:Well, I've been saying for years that we're living our grandparents' life on steroids. We're going through the 60s, the mid 60s to the mid 70s on steroids and I what made? They don't hide it anymore. They don't hide it.
Speaker 3:I don't get uptight cause I know that things are gonna change. I mean, I used to get uptight, I just choose not to get uptight because I'm more concerned about having a place to live Now I just get more concerned about you know, you know other things like so I know movies. Basically, we have this problem with movies right now. It's a combination of things what you said, checking off the things and also they're made so fucking cheaply and they're made for first streaming and that's a whole nother thing.
Speaker 3:And they're not developing there's no, they're remaking movies.
Speaker 1:You know why that is Mark. You know why. That is why? Because they fucking pushed all the talent out and they brought in a diverse group of people that don't have the experience, they don't have the knowledge, they don't even have one guy that like hung around, that had been around and said, hey, you might want to try to do it this way. Even Marvel got rid of the guy that made Marvel great.
Speaker 3:But did you ever think that the studios did this to spend less money?
Speaker 1:No, because looking Lord of the Rings, the fucking one on Amazon, a billion dollar fucking series.
Speaker 3:There's always going to be a good exception.
Speaker 1:There's always Well no, there's plenty of exceptions. So look at the Marvels they lost $200 million. I could get down the line of movies that have lot. I follow all this shit. I know I see your posts. Yeah, I mean, I could get down the line of movies that have lost 100 million, 200 million. They don't care, they just get their message out and they're like, okay, well, it's the stockholders that are taking the beating.
Speaker 3:Well, I'll tell you what it's gonna correct itself. This is also I'm telling you. It's gonna die down, it's not gonna stay like this forever. I used to have God. So one thing you and I can agree on when rock went down and people were like, oh, all this hip hop, and I'm like, give it time, it's a cycle. If you don't like hip hop.
Speaker 1:It's a cycle. The hip hop never left.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know, but what I'm?
Speaker 1:saying is Hip hop's actually the prevalent.
Speaker 3:Yeah well, one thing is like you know, it's like I think that these rogue directors, like you said, they're gonna go rogue, they're gonna make some really good fucking movies and then you're gonna see the studios go ha, maybe we can do that, and it's gonna come back. You're gonna be in a young quite-.
Speaker 1:It's a long fucking wait.
Speaker 3:I can tell you that yeah well, we had Oppenheimer, we had Oppenheimer, we had.
Speaker 1:Oscar Maya. We had Oscar Maya, at least they didn't raise swap him.
Speaker 3:Maya Wiener. Listen let's see, I got the next pick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, give it up.
Speaker 3:All right, here we go, a movie that always made my chest hurt oh Blood Work, clint Eastwood. Clint Eastwood, it's the one where Jeff Daniels-.
Speaker 4:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3:And I hope nobody listening saw it, because I'm gonna say that movie fooled me. I didn't know Jeff Daniels until the scene where he pulled the six pack out of the water and he looked at Clint and I'm like holy shit, he's a bad guy. Yeah, yeah, that movie hurt, though when he was clutching his chest.
Speaker 1:Yep, yep, let's see.
Speaker 3:Your brother's worried about me, by the way, it's me I'm really worried about you. Be worried about me, but for other reasons.
Speaker 1:Let's see M Night Shyamalan. He came up with with what was it? I see dead people. A fifth, the sixth, the sixth element or the sixth sense. Sixth sense.
Speaker 3:I had the fifth sense. You had the sixth element, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then he came out with signs in 2002. I love that movie. It was not yeah, but it wasn't what. Like he started to kind of yeah, yeah, to pale off on his movie.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, yeah, well, it was not he could never meet that.
Speaker 1:It's like you did your opus, Maggie, whatever it's called, you know, with sixth sense.
Speaker 3:I know you had to be a real fan of his to like it, like the Fairweather fans that liked sixth sense. It didn't like him, they didn't like it. But what I liked about it was he picked on a popular topic of crop signs. But I love that. The alien sitting appeared till the very end.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And I loved. What's his name? What's the tinfoil hat? He was freaking hilarious. Mel Gibson no, his son who plays? He's a Colkin? No, Jesus. He's a huge hit now. It was one of his early roles, oh God.
Speaker 1:I.
Speaker 3:Signs Movie. I'm gonna tell you right now.
Speaker 1:Very dead of it. To the AI says M Night, sam and lemon ding dong.
Speaker 3:Joaquin Phoenix place.
Speaker 1:Joaquin Phoenix.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was thinking it remember he was hiding in the closet with the tin foil hat. That was hilarious. Yeah, it was. It was a deep story. I mean, mel Gibson was a pastor and he had to his faith and everything. Yeah, that was a problem. And night made some deep movies and then people didn't get it. Then he went. He made movies like the one where the trees were killing people with the wind. That was a I kind of cool, if I and it found a cool, but people thought it was stupid. The one I really liked was the village. Nobody liked that. I love that.
Speaker 1:No, well, I liked it. I liked it. I thought it was interesting. I thought it was interesting it was, it was a big build-up, as usual with him, and then it was just kind of a twist at the end.
Speaker 3:The bad one. The worst one he made to me is the one with Paul G Amato, with the fish, the mermaid in the pool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you got?
Speaker 3:I'm gonna go with. This was a quirky movie. Nicholas Cage made a movie where he played two characters adaption. Do you remember that movie? Adoption yeah and you thought there were twins and then you found out. Now you know that was right, movie right.
Speaker 1:A very original, extremely original movie, horror movie, came out. Of course, it was based on Cuz Hollywood. This is, you know, they're always stealing ideas. Yeah, the Japanese version is actually better, but they brought it to America and the ring.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, that was great.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that was done. Well, it was done. Well, it wasn't like I said, it wasn't an original.
Speaker 3:It was very good.
Speaker 1:Concept it came scared me. It was, it was, yeah, it was really bizarre. It was totally Outside the box. Yeah, yeah, totally outside the box.
Speaker 3:And what was like when you got to know the crime and the murder that happened in that house. It was so sad and horrible at the same time. Yeah, yeah she liked that American guy played by. I think it was Bill Pullman, I think yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yep what do you?
Speaker 3:got oh, catch me, if you can, another Tom Hanks movie. That was good. Yeah, no, no, capio yeah love, the love, the music to do, to yep.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this one was okay. It was okay and it just got worse after this. The death. Talk about the death of this was the beginning Well, not really the beginning. It started it, though. Death of one of the greatest franchises in movie history, and this franchise is dead today. This one came out 2002, star Wars episode 2, but today that is a dead, disney ruined franchise dead.
Speaker 3:And you can't. We can't go into social reasons. Disney came in when I saw the ones. What was his name? Jj Abrams.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I didn't like him. I didn't like the editing. No, it looked like a TV movie over all the zoom in and everything dead. Disney destroyed it and dead.
Speaker 1:George, I knew something was wrong with the beat this to see they call it the sequel trilogy, that's the death of it in the first sequel trilogy. I forget what the name of that one was and I went to see it in within and I noticed this within the first five minutes they have the Japanese girl fight tie fighter pilot. They have the black eye. They like showed him all within the first five to ten minutes. And I'm like why, what? And I didn't like this was nothing. I went in with any preconceived notion. I just noticed that I went this is kind of weird. I'm thinking like what is what is this all about? Like, just See, doesn't matter, we had landale currency and we had. We, we know that there's, you know, which I never understood.
Speaker 1:Okay, so fucking Star Wars. Right, they said the Star Wars needs to be more diverse. There was no black people in the first two Star Wars. It needs to be more diverse. Meanwhile, motherfuckers, remember, remember this it took place in a motherfucking galaxy far, far away. Right, doesn't have to fucking resemble earth, you fucking idiots. Right, it could be fucking anything they want it to be because it's in a galaxy. How far away, mark.
Speaker 3:Far, far, far, far far. Thank you and a long time ago in a long time ago, but then so why? Does it have to mimic Today's modern audience, if you ever thought, if it was a long time ago, maybe everybody wouldn't be white.
Speaker 1:Well, but that's the way they created it. I'll read the Bible now. I'm Joe. They created it that way and it was like okay, so this is it. So why you?
Speaker 3:I didn't notice that what bothered me. I want, with my son, to see the first Disney, you know whatever secret. Yeah, yeah so do you remember when they rebooted? But Battlestar Galactica for sci-fi and I actually did not mind that.
Speaker 3:I liked it. One thing that bothered me was these fast zooms, constant fast zooms on. And if we're watching in five minutes in Like I see the first fast zoom and I'm like, am I watching sci-fi? Like this is Star Wars, a hallowed movie, epic, and we're looking again. Everything JJ Abrams does to me looks like a TV movie. Yeah, except for Firefly. I liked Firefly.
Speaker 1:It was good. Yeah, now the cult following the only one I liked.
Speaker 3:I liked of all the Disney, I like the one where everyone died does. Was it rogue? Were the the people that actually got the plans for the death star? The one, I like that one because at the end everybody died. It wasn't gonna be a sequel, you know, and that was great, it was awesome, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, and then look where they came back with then the Han Solo movie was okay, bombed, bombed. But you took a Han Solo origin story and fucked it up because Disney went.
Speaker 3:They should have done what, what George Lucas did, they should have waited they didn't want to do George Lucas's version.
Speaker 1:Kathleen Kennedy wanted to do the for the forces female.
Speaker 3:See, I think that they just put too much out. They did too much.
Speaker 1:You don't go too much isn't bad when it's good writing. I think I think you did Seinfeld put out too many episodes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no great fucking writing all the Chinese Chinese restaurant episodes so come on.
Speaker 1:Okay, one out of what.
Speaker 3:Seven years of.
Speaker 1:Seinfeld. If you have good writing, people will continue to watch.
Speaker 3:I just I've never been a fan. I like Disney, but I've never been a fan of.
Speaker 1:When they buy a franchise, they've always fucked it up and they, totally they had the opportunity to, one more time, one more time Put Luke, han and Leah together. One. They had the fucking opportunity in Disney and Kathleen Kennedy, who's the head of Lucas Phil, said no, no, dude, that's a fact, really that's a fact. Look what they did to Luke Skywalker he was resorted to throwing his lightsaber away and he's on a fucking island sucking on the tit of a fucking space walrus.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but you've turned him to him.
Speaker 1:Can. Only they made him a fucking pussy he was.
Speaker 3:He hated what Disney did with those movies. We hear him talk.
Speaker 1:He's he got paid by them, motherfuckers. He took the role.
Speaker 3:So yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1:That's right, you know anyway, moving on oh, you're next now I said Star Wars episode.
Speaker 3:Okay, I'm gonna go with a great, great funny horror movie, cabin fever, to remember that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Kevin fever.
Speaker 3:Cabin fever falling in the water, with a dead body in the water.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we mentioned this one earlier. Eight mile Came out 2002.
Speaker 3:I didn't know that that was a good yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. What else you got?
Speaker 3:Hey, it was funny it was. It was billed as this great movie. Because of this, the actress in between is damned remember that one.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, with the Leah yeah it was an offshoot of interview with the vampire, wasn't it?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, not nearly. I always liked her. I liked her music. I like she was easy to look at, nice girl she played.
Speaker 3:She played a good part in that and promise she died because the plane had too much junk in the trunk.
Speaker 1:That's the problem, you see, nobody cared back then that she was, that she was the queen, because they didn't make an issue out of it. Yeah well, they didn't like oh look, she's black. They just put her in there and there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3:Actually, though, when it came out, I was working with a guy that said really a black vampire now Well, you go, then I it didn't bother me, I was like, okay, it's when they really push it in your face, I know, but anyone could be. I said to him. I said anybody can be a vampire, yeah exactly and she didn't replace.
Speaker 1:I'd like it wasn't a remake, but speaking of a Vampire movie, let's stick with that. This was actually a good pot to blade to had on my list, yeah, I love it, it was actually pretty good. Yeah, it's pretty good. I love those they're trying to reboot blade now and it's a total fucking disaster without what's his name is blade he's, he's played to me with a guy playing blade is.
Speaker 1:I forget his name. You know him, look it up, but it's a fucking woke disaster as they're calling it. They had to rewrite it like twice already.
Speaker 3:Well, the actor huh when's it coming out?
Speaker 1:It's not even yet because they had to do a rewrite the actor. It was gonna be a bait and switch. It wasn't gonna be about blade, it was gonna be about his daughter being a vampire. So he would be like that, like just what they did in what's his name? The did the, the Marvel movie with the Fox's name, the guy, the wizard. There he can. He can bend time.
Speaker 3:Doctor Strange.
Speaker 1:Doctor Strange, yeah, so the last stage movie. They did a bait and switch. It wasn't really about him, he was just a rider on the bus of that movie, wasn't really about him. And that's what they do a blade. This guy that's playing is like this script sucks.
Speaker 3:Hey, I'm a normie, so wouldn't bother me exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1:All right, give me a movie.
Speaker 3:All right, it was the period of after platoon. We had some great war movies. I liked it. We were soldiers. I thought it was a good movie, wasn't we were soldiers? Yet that wasn't as good as some other movies. No, gibson always to me when he did a movie he would do the character right, but he wasn't always authentic. He didn't strike me as a real authentic. You know army, but the story was really good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I was through a couple more each. I always like this guy's movies and I still like his movies and I'm gonna go see the beekeeper when it comes out. I'm a big Jason Statham fan. No, me too. I'm a big Jason Statham into talk about consistent. Yeah, it doesn't matter. He doesn't try to be somebody that he's not Kevin Costner trying to be Robin Hood. Jason Statham is just a bad motherfucker.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's people say Jesus latest movie it sucked. It was just like that. It's like a place what?
Speaker 1:he plays, it's fun. Yeah, this movie's a fun to watch. Yeah, they'd fun to fucking watch, exactly because you know what you're getting. You know he's gonna be Jason Statham and in real life. You know he's a badass in real life. That is not fake shit that he's doing. Yeah, he's a black belt and he's, he owns his craft and he's low-key. The dude is a straight-up fucking cool, the transporter.
Speaker 3:Oh, great movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, transporter was really good. That was, I think, the beginning of his kind of Rise in the action.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah the one that made me laugh was crank. That was a fucking.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so he's gotta keep his heart rate up. So, as you do, he starts having sex with a woman.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and he's. He can be funny too, like he has a great. I watched him in that something in Hobbes when him in the rock.
Speaker 3:I keep saying Calvin and Hobbes, a hot Sean Hobbes. That was a great movie, it was a good movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it was a good movie. All right, give me another one.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna go with a panic room. Dwight Yolkham was a nasty motherfucker in that movie. Let's just come on. Let's just come on. Panic room was a great movie.
Speaker 4:Ah, okay, yeah it was yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:I this will be my last one. Then move on, then you'll get one. Okay, great, great series of movies. Consistently funny. I didn't go too far, didn't just quit when it was when they were had Austin Powers gold member Right. Consistently funny all of them consistently good. You knew what you were gonna get. You would know you're gonna laugh your ass off. I think the concept got tiring with people but it would never fell off. But they did just enough.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:They did just enough. They didn't go overboard and keep doing like number seven and number eight. I'm sure the studio wanted it. Yeah, all right, give me one more.
Speaker 3:That will move on to the singles.
Speaker 1:One that is probably the worst movie in the series.
Speaker 3:But it really bothered me because it was so real. It was the sum of all fears. Were Ben Affleck played Jack Ryan, he was horrible, but the idea of a nuclear bomb going off at a football game just was scary.
Speaker 1:Yeah, black Sunday.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he was horrible, is Jack. Ryan just horrible. I never. I never got into the Jack Ryan moves, only when Harrison, was it Harrison Ford played once.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like, and I didn't even realize Jack Ryan was a character like that. I don't watch the Amazon series, I don't. You know, I just I was never really a Jack Ryan kind of. I love that. I was never really a Jack Ryan kind of.
Speaker 3:I liked them. Alec Baldwin played in. The one with Sean Connery is the Russian Hanford Red October. That was right.
Speaker 4:Yeah that was a good one.
Speaker 3:He was the first one to play Jack Ryan and the two Harrison Ford movies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was. What's the Alec Baldwin?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, the one. The one with the Irish, sean Bean, that, jack right, that one with Harrison Ford is my favorite. Yeah, tom Bean's brother. Yeah, now is that was a really good one, yeah, all right, let's get into the singles.
Speaker 1:Top 10 singles for the this week in 2002, although I'm gonna start with 11. So I, I asked my son one time. I said um. I Said, okay, you have a chance between Brittany Spears. Uh, uh, jessica, what was her name? Simpson? Jessica Simpson in Shakira. I said who do you take? Who do you take? I'll tell you who I can. He says uh, I think by your reaction I just got that I. He says, uh, jessica Simpson. I said well, I'm taking Shakira. You know why? I Said. I said you know, you know why. He says why? I said because she's not American.
Speaker 3:She's under five feet tall. She is short.
Speaker 1:Oh, but she's a fireplug buddy, so she put out her first English album.
Speaker 3:Eddie Kramer worked with her on it. She put out some great songs on that album. She really put in some good work on that album.
Speaker 1:Dude, her music teacher in high school, said you'll never make your voices horrible.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, who's looking at her voice?
Speaker 3:and then someone came named Alanis Morissette, came out and made that voice Acceptable.
Speaker 1:So yeah, yeah so, but number 10 this week in 2002 was pink. Get the party started. Number nine this week in 2002 the singles shots a woman's worth by Alicia Keys. Okay, I'm number eight this week on the singles shots in 2002. Wherever you will go by the calling. Number seven this week on the singles shots in 2002 my sacrifice by Creed. Here we go. Number six this week on the singles shots in 2002, no doubt featuring bounty killer we're in his career. Go, he killed it. Number five this week in 2002 on the singles shots in the end by Lincoln Park oh, yeah, from the late Chester.
Speaker 3:Benny's killed any real Yep. I've been another guy that when he died I was yeah, that was kind of those two bad men.
Speaker 1:I just felt more bad than hurt in that situation.
Speaker 3:It was right after what's his name from Soundgarden Chris Cornell.
Speaker 1:Chris Cornell died that long ago.
Speaker 3:Chris Cornell died.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know, I'm stuck a few months left or something, yeah yeah, number four this week on the singles shots in 2002 ain't it funny by Jennifer Lopez and Ja Rule. Number three this week on the singles shots In 2002, always on time with Ja Rule featuring a shanty back to back there. Yeah, he got caught up in that whole scandal about the, the. They were gonna have the, the big festival out on that island, and then people showed up and it was really expensive and it was a big. There's a whole documentary the promoter he yeah.
Speaker 1:Ja Rule was part of that.
Speaker 3:Oh boy, yeah, he was one of the promoters not only was there no show, they had no fucking, no food.
Speaker 1:There was shitty tents and yeah became a fucking floor to the flies. Number two this week on the single shots in 2002. How you remind me nickel back, but meanwhile in 2002 they getting pelted by rocks and bottles in fucking Brazil. That's great. And number one this week on the singles shots in 2002 and too bad. This wasn't 2002 Super Bowl, because us sure had the number one song Got a lot of mixed review. I didn't see it. I watched a Rick flared document documentary at halftime. I wasn't gonna waste my time watching that halftime show Although I think he's a talented guy but I knew what I was gonna get.
Speaker 3:You know, they got it bad by us. Yeah, the problem with that the show is that he may have done a good show, but I heard that they had, like, girls running around with guitars that are unplugged in, you know, and that's like that's that pisses off music fans, whether the music is good or not. Don't put, like I think, the one to start a Robert Palmer with that video, right, the girls with the guitars? Yeah, they're not playing, you know yeah they want you to Prince.
Speaker 3:Those are. Those were some of the best half times because they actually played music you know, yeah, when you two.
Speaker 1:This is why it was the greatest Prince might have had the greatest performance, because it rained, yeah. He was like let's fucking do this, yeah, and it opened up. The skies opened up right before he came on, right, and he was wearing those shoes. They said the platform was slippery, but the dude never lost his step. No, never, lot. He fucking played it all. Yeah, but you two, you two. When up on the giant screen they scrolled all the names, yes, of the dude, I got goosebumps right now Just remembering that. Yeah, and on the inside of his jacket he had the American flag. I Mean that was the greatest after, yeah, the American flag and the Irish flag.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I worked with a guy that came in and he was like what the fuck is up with your bono? He shouldn't have the Irish flag. I said, why not? It goes, it's the American flag. I said, yeah, but aren't the Irish a big part of American, you know? Yeah, yeah, and I was like yeah, yeah. Probably not a you-too-fanny, either there's two countries that are side-by-side.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now definitely well, Island is getting Ireland's turning into fucking camera, but that's another discussion. Here we go. Oh no, it's fucking bad, but anyways it's a cycle, scott.
Speaker 3:It's a cycle.
Speaker 1:That's a bad cycle. The top ten albums for this week. I didn't English out 2002. Oh no, they're gonna get the woke out. That's what they gotta get out. Check it. I don't know if you caught up on like some of the laws that they're trying to pass over there, but like hate speech could be anything and you can get arrested for it. I can say I don't like your glasses, I hate them. They're ugly and they make you look ugly. You can get arrested for that shit now.
Speaker 3:I don't like your glasses.
Speaker 1:They're thick for I love like sick for him. You look like. You look like I'm like Maris in glasses Early Maris. Okay, top ten albums this week in 2002. Yeah, I'm starting with 11, though, because this is a good album. Oh brother, we're out, though came in at 11. Oh yeah, number 10 this week on the album charts in 2002 no more drama by Mary J Blige. Yep. Number nine this week on the album charts in 2002. Misunderstood by pink. Number eight. This we see. These are lining up, actually, with the singles. Number eight this week on the album charts in 2002 87.01 usher. Number seven this week. This is a classic hip-hop album. Number seven in the album charts this week in 2002. Still maddock by Nas oh.
Speaker 3:God yeah.
Speaker 1:Number six this week on the album charts in 2002 pain is loved by Jarl. Number five this week on the album charts in 2002 silver side up, nickel back. Number four this week on the album charts in 2002 word of mouth Good enough, ludicrous. When I move, you move. Just like that. When I move, you move. Number three this speech, scott.
Speaker 3:What's that? That's hate speech. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Ah, arrest me a number, though. That's right, I'm in Florida, I can be free down here.
Speaker 3:To live. Crew got in trouble in Florida.
Speaker 1:But they got out of it too, and Uncle Luke made a lot of money from getting in trouble. So if that's the price you pay, he didn't mind paying it. Oh, martina got more popular Number three this week on the album charts in 2002. Hybrid theory by Lincoln Park Good number two this week on the album charts in 2002, weathered by Creed. And number one On the album charts. This was the big I think there was. This was either the Beginning of it on the end of it I'm not sure I knew it was crazy but drive by Alan Jackson. That was that big country pop movement.
Speaker 1:Yeah you know like you had the Latin movement for a while. Yeah, you had the. Then you had the country pop. All of God broke to Alan Jackson, like they would just kind of. It stopped being country music, pop music with a hat.
Speaker 3:You know what the start of that was? Remember the song I swear, yeah, I swear. So that came out as a country song, yeah, and then a R&B group released it and Sony said, holy shit, we can just market directly to segmented audiences. And that was the beginning of because you hear now country singers. They actually kind of rap in their songs, which is so right, right, and that was beginning. Yeah, I and I Alan Jackson's a really good singer. I respect them, but yeah, that's that crap.
Speaker 1:I yeah, I'm a.
Speaker 3:Merle Haggard guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, this day of music All right. On this day in 2021, the food fighters were number one in the UK with their 10th studio album, medicine at midnight. The album debuted at number three on the US Billboard 200 shot. It's the final food fighter studio album to feature drama Taylor Hawkins before his death the following year. Yeah, on this day in 2015, mark Ronson's uptown funk reached the 1 million sales mark 10 weeks after its first released, becoming the hundred and fifty-eighth track to reach a million mark on the British shot history.
Speaker 3:Don't tell me albums, don't sell.
Speaker 1:Yep Understand 2013. Chubby checker launched a five hundred thousand dollar lawsuit against Hewlett Packard for including an app on its phones and tablets that was not only named after the seven-year-old, 71 year-old musician, but measured a man's manhood based on his shoe size. I.
Speaker 3:Am size 12.
Speaker 1:Yeah ah. Let's see 2008. The Beatles. A flat they once rented went up for sale. Who cares on this day? In 2006, winners at the at this year's Brit Awards include James Blunt, who won. British male solo artists. British female solo artists went to Katie Katie Tunsel, constell Tunstall I.
Speaker 2:Can't say.
Speaker 3:Hate speech.
Speaker 1:Ah, I can't believe that slipped out coldplay. One. Best British album for X and Y. Best British single for speed of sound went to the Kaiser. Chiefs Went from best British group. Best British live act. British Urban Act went to the law. British breakthrough act went to Arctic monkeys. This is in 2006.
Speaker 3:No, my son-in-law's favorite.
Speaker 1:Yep International Breakthrough Act won by Jack Johnson. Madonna winning international female soloist.
Speaker 3:I'm walking barefoot on the beach and I'm drinking a beer. What the hell is with that?
Speaker 1:It's no I never listen to him, so. I don't like yeah, and Green Day, one international group, blah, blah blah. Oh, I love that. Best international album with American Indian. Outstanding contribution to music went to the great Paul Weller, oh yeah my favorite. On this day in 2000, sting pulled out of a concert in Vienna in protest of the inclusion of Jorge Jorge, george horn, george haters, far-right freedom party in Austria's new I think you guys say sting pulled a concert out of his ass.
Speaker 1:Yeah, luke, lou Reed also canceled shows in their country. Whatever, on this day in 1997 you two went to number one in the single charts with disco tech. I saw that tour pop-mott tour at Sun Devil Stadium in Arizona.
Speaker 3:You know, we did a segment on the other podcast, yeah, and we did worst albums ever at the time and that was one of them, that pop album, yeah. I loved it from the day it was released.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't mind it. Mo fo is a great song. Yeah, I didn't mind it. Yeah, you two went to number one in UK. Some shots with disco tech, the band's third UK number one single and the opening track to the 97 album pop. You tie it. They did there. They did their thing at Walmart right to did their Record release or something. Yeah, the music video was set inside a mirror ball and featured the band members dressed as members of the disco group, the village people. They actually had a big disco ball at the stadium, but it was. It was a lemon at first, because they had that song lemon right.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, and then peeled away and it's a giant disco ball.
Speaker 1:Okay right and so you know, the lights are hitting it, hitting it. All of a sudden, the fucking, the front opens up like a door, an electric door kind of slides up, yeah, and the band just comes walking out of the disco balls. Pretty cool. Wow, bono's entrance was the great, best entrance I've ever seen at a concert and this was. This was good.
Speaker 1:Being higher up, we were kind of in the net, the first level of the balcony, yeah, and we were looking down at the stage, kind of maybe 45 degrees. But at the far end of the stadium, when the music starts, a spotlight hits and you see this guy coming out with an entourage. He's got a hood like a boxer, mm-hmm, going to the ring. He's got the boxing thing on and he's just comes the whole hundred yards To the stadium, right to the stage, the whole thing. They spotlight on a place going. They got him up on the screen and he gets up on stage. He starts doing like he pulls the hood back and it's Bono and, yeah, he starts doing the dance, the shuffle in the feet, the whole thing. He takes the, the robe off and he's got one of those fucking shirts on with the fake abs. Hey, it's pretty funny actually, but it was a great entrance. It was like a fucking five minute entrance.
Speaker 3:I think that was their biggest stage show they ever had right it was pretty big.
Speaker 1:I think maybe octung baby. Okay or what was the one after that.
Speaker 3:Pop was after octum baby.
Speaker 1:Yeah, pop was after, but I think was it octum baby or was it? What was the other, the other album they did right before that one?
Speaker 3:Well, uh, ronald and hum, but that was a pretty basic. No, it was, it wasn't. Joshua tree came before a tomb baby.
Speaker 1:Octum baby came after all that Octum baby, and what was the other fucking move?
Speaker 3:the other well, they had an album of like kind of offshoots after octum baby, but it didn't do too well. It was called um.
Speaker 1:I can't believe, I can't, I can't remember that this you two tours band news home. Let me see.
Speaker 3:There we go. My mouse crapped out of me so I can't.
Speaker 1:Well, we're almost done anyways.
Speaker 3:I mean it really crapped out like I don't have a mouse anymore.
Speaker 1:Uh, let's see, did this pop up? You know, it's still spinning.
Speaker 3:You look at their discography?
Speaker 1:I'll look no, I guess it should pop up in a second. I don't know, I get I could. Maybe I got to clean out of the cookies on this shit. Uh, let's see. On this day in 1991, kelly emberg, the ex-girlfriend of rod stewart, fired a file the 25 million dollar palimony suit in los angeles. Uh, a couple lived together from 85 to 90. Stewart later said instead of getting married again, I'm gonna find a woman I don't like and just give her a house.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that someone can like me and give me a house. Oh sorry.
Speaker 1:Uh, here we go Um. Where's that? This are fucking long wikipedia page. Jesus, this is american music style vocals, guitar rhythm. What the fuck? Come on now. I'm hell bent on getting this. Yeah, because the scography was zeuropa, so the when they had the big tv screens and they had the fucking. You go hang it.
Speaker 3:I thought that was a to maybe tour.
Speaker 1:I thought I thought it was zeuropa, but no, maybe I'm wrong. Yeah, I don't know Either one, but pop was a big stage. Yeah, definitely a big stage set, uh, on this day in 1988, after singing joe elliot had uh, referred to el pastor was the place where those grease, with those greasy mexicans, never let me with the force to cancel the continent. El paso, go figure, step inside, walk this way.
Speaker 3:Hey, yeah, uh, that's what they say about the border now step inside, walk this way, joe biden border.
Speaker 1:That's the same, uh, under a lot of presence, huh.
Speaker 3:Under a lot of presence. Oh wait, you were you were there, you were there. I'm not gonna argue with you, you were there, not like this not like this Under a lot of presence.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, no, uh, in 1981, on this day, american guitarist mike bloomfield was found dead in this car in san francisco from an accidental heroin heroin overdose at age 37.
Speaker 3:I didn't know. That's how he died.
Speaker 1:Yeah, played with bob dillon. Uh, on highway 61. We visited On this day in 1979 at the 21st grammy awards. Saturday night fever soundtrack when album of the year and the bg's were named the best pop group and best arrangement for voices were staying alive, billy jules, just the way you are. One reckoning song of the year. Donna sum is last dance one. Two grammy's best female r&b vocal. Much better, that's the r&b song. Saturday night fever is a double album. Yeah, a lot of people forget that if you don't own the album. And there's a lot of shit on that album. Yeah, there's like maybe six good songs, really good songs, on that entire album. Yeah, and one of them is uh, what's her name?
Speaker 3:Um, well, more than a woman, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you have more than a woman and you got uh, I forget her name yvonne Yvonne element element Yep and the bg's, and that's really the only good songs on there. I think the tramps might be on there.
Speaker 3:Yeah they do um one of the songs the bg's do um God, I'm losing it. I can't yeah.
Speaker 1:No, I know what you're talking. I know this song. Yeah, uh, let's see. On this day in 1977, glenn matlock was fired as bass player from the sex pistols, being replaced by sydvicious Because he was too drunk. Then he came back in the 90s when the pistols reformed. On this day in 1975, the great linda randstad went to number one in the US singles charts with you're no good the singers only solo chart topper out of 12 other top 40 hits. Um, also randstad went to number one in the US album charts with the hot like a wheel. Uh, on this day in 1969, sliding the family stone started the full week run at number one at the US singles charts with everyday people their first number one.
Speaker 3:Do you ever see tom jones cover that song?
Speaker 1:Bob, probably it's great. Yeah, it was a great. Yeah, his version of kiss is fucking classic.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I like you better than prince's version.
Speaker 1:It's so campy, it's fucking great. Uh, on this day in 1968, john levin and his wife sent the along with georgia. Patti harrison flew to india to study Meditation with maharishi mahesh yogi, paul miccotti and wringo star joined them a few days later, but star would become bored. Leave on march 1st, comparing the experience to be like Uh, butlin's holiday camp, yeah, yeah. You couldn't see wringo doing that shit.
Speaker 3:Now and he brought a suitcase full of hinds baked beans. I heard nice and uh, he probably saw the maharishi screwing all the women you know and he said this is all a sham.
Speaker 1:He's all the sham. Yeah, yeah, uh. 19 songs which would later appear on the beatles white album we're written during the march, in april, and 68. Yeah, at that place. Uh, on this day In 1968, american blues musician little walter Maryam walton jacob's died in his sleep at age 37 From injuries and curtain in a fight while taking a break from a performance at a nightclub in chicago. Wow, not joining muddy waters band in 1948. He was the first harmonica player to amplify his hop On the 1951. She moves me, giving it a distorted, echoing sound. Fucking got beat up. Yeah, uh, on this day in 1965. It was very sad day. American singer and pianist napkin coal died of lung cancer. Yeah, on this day in 1964, the Beatles score the first number one album meet the Beatles, beat the Beatles. Yeah, on this day in 1962, ray childs recorded I can't stop loving you at united studios in hollywood, california. Uh, born on this day gary clock jr.
Speaker 3:Uh, our player Yep.
Speaker 1:Ronnie venucci jr from the killers. Uh, let me see. Brandon boyd, lead singer of incubus, born on this day in 1976. Uh, let's see.
Speaker 3:I, I want to. I want to correct myself. Yeah, you just hit me. It wasn't prodigy that didn't like, it was incubus. When they came out, I didn't like them.
Speaker 1:Oh, I like incubus.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, I was, they could be a hit or miss too Prodigy I actually really loved, because they were like that sound I like yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:So yeah, incubus, I like incubus, but again they're a hit or miss band. Some of this songs I'm not like you know. Uh, born on this day in 1960. Mikey craig, famous for his copy cup that says mikey in the culture club. Do you really want to hurt me video? Yeah, uh, born in this. What's that mikey? Yeah, uh, born on this day in 1959. Ollie cambell, singer with ub 40. Uh, let's see who else born in this day in 1952. Melissa manchester. Born on this day in 19 42. English recording engineer and record producer, glenn johns.
Speaker 3:Yes, cover to many times.
Speaker 1:Yeah, uh, let's see, I was born on this day in 1941. American songwriter and record producer brian haaland, who's about a haaland doja, haaland team? Oh, and that's it, buddy. That was great. Two hours 42 minutes, thanks to big head todd sockman calling in and delaying us 20 minutes.
Speaker 3:No, that's okay, Because I think your brother's gonna fire me after this show.
Speaker 1:but he's got no say.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he does, he's a big brother.
Speaker 1:He's a figurehead.
Speaker 3:You spent two hours and 43 minutes with with alan rickman, isn't that amazing?
Speaker 1:He's a figurehead, that's all.
Speaker 3:Alan, that was a great calling. That was a great call.
Speaker 1:That's you, but okay, it's, it's, it's, it's on the record now. It's never going away.
Speaker 3:It's in the podcast Stratosphere you judge someone's friends by the character of the person you know.
Speaker 1:So you know, there you go, he just okay, all right, you gotta appreciate life. Okay, always look on the breath.
Speaker 3:Hold on, do it like this always.
Speaker 1:Yeah, those two, you know, come to find out. Uh uh, john cleason, eric, I don't fucking hate each other. Yeah, I really don't like each other, that's a whole made it work, though, yeah.
Speaker 3:Like like uh, like lou me and perry, we all hate each other.
Speaker 4:but we make it work, you know work no.
Speaker 1:All right, everybody. Well, thanks for watching, thanks for listening. If you like it, share it, leave a comment. Uh, whether you're on the podcast world or whatever podcast platform you're on, give us some stars, give us a comment. Uh, if you're on youtube, then give us a comment, give us a like. We're on every thursday night now at seven o'clock, so you know tune in my Smitty. Thank you very much. As I always say, thank you for your knowledge, thank you for your time, but most of all, thank you for your friendship same.
Speaker 1:Appreciate it. Uh, and we will be back again next week. Uh, lou will be here. See, lou got to call the number this week, right, he's was out 2002, and then he doesn't fucking show up for it. Right, we'll give him a call out, we're gonna fucking pay for that one, but he'll pay for that.
Speaker 3:I paid for it when I took off. Yeah, he will pay make sure he's got a doctor's note.
Speaker 1:That's it All right, everybody, we'll see you next week, all right.