Get ready to crank up the volume as we join forces with The Point, Winthrop, Massachusetts' own rock storytellers, and unpack their debut album that's stirring up the local scene. They spill the beans on their organic recording process, where "Not Like That" came to life on a humble laptop, proving that DIY is still a force in music. From the earthy strumming of "Let It Go" to the echoes in "Not Like That," these guys are sculpting sound with raw authenticity.
Our musical odyssey doesn't stop there—we're mixing it up with a hearty debate on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominees that's as electric as the first riff at a live show. Names like Mariah Carey and Mary J. Blige spark fiery discussions, while we toss in our two cents on hip-hop icons and their seismic shift in the industry. And yes, we even cast our votes on whether the Gallagher brothers might bury the hatchet for an Oasis induction ceremony.
Finally, we're not afraid to venture beyond the turntables, bringing in a dash of sci-fi and silver screen magic to our roundtable. We debate the replicant riddle of "Blade Runner" and pit vampire cult classics head-to-head. All while reminiscing on those pivotal movie moments that have us gripping our armchairs just as tightly as our guitars. So, if you're a fan of heated music debates, behind-the-scenes banter, and the occasional cinematic diversion, this is your backstage pass to the show that hits all the right notes.
Get ready to crank up the volume as we join forces with The Point, Winthrop, Massachusetts' own rock storytellers, and unpack their debut album that's stirring up the local scene. They spill the beans on their organic recording process, where "Not Like That" came to life on a humble laptop, proving that DIY is still a force in music. From the earthy strumming of "Let It Go" to the echoes in "Not Like That," these guys are sculpting sound with raw authenticity.
Our musical odyssey doesn't stop there—we're mixing it up with a hearty debate on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominees that's as electric as the first riff at a live show. Names like Mariah Carey and Mary J. Blige spark fiery discussions, while we toss in our two cents on hip-hop icons and their seismic shift in the industry. And yes, we even cast our votes on whether the Gallagher brothers might bury the hatchet for an Oasis induction ceremony.
Finally, we're not afraid to venture beyond the turntables, bringing in a dash of sci-fi and silver screen magic to our roundtable. We debate the replicant riddle of "Blade Runner" and pit vampire cult classics head-to-head. All while reminiscing on those pivotal movie moments that have us gripping our armchairs just as tightly as our guitars. So, if you're a fan of heated music debates, behind-the-scenes banter, and the occasional cinematic diversion, this is your backstage pass to the show that hits all the right notes.
Well, here we are, episode 136. We got a boatload of stuff tonight on this episode. We're going to be interviewing the Point, a band from Winthrop, massachusetts, my hometown talking about their debut album. We're also going to be talking about the rock and roll Hall of Fame nominees and if we have time well, we always do I think we're going to talk about our favorite sci-fi movies, since movies have become part of the podcast. It's kind of like pop culture stuff. We're going to be doing 45 polka, as usual, the whole new batch of 45s. You make the call to stay in music. It's loaded, so sit back, relax, enjoy the podcast.
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Speaker 1:Thank you, amanda, for that wonderful introduction as usual. Welcome back, my friends, to the show that never ends. We're so glad you could attend. Come inside, come inside. Yeah, well, to the podcast. You know the name, I'm not going to say it. We're streaming live right now on Facebook, youtube X, instagram, d-live Twitter. Well, that was X. I can't stop fucking saying that I don't know. Anyway, yeah, so we got an interesting show tonight. Interesting show tonight, a lot going on, a lot going on. So let's jump right into it. Enough of my bullshit, let's bring on the wrecking too.
Speaker 5:Start with.
Speaker 6:Greetings. What's up, buddy? Not much man.
Speaker 1:All right, ready to show? Yeah, yeah, ready to go and let's bring on Hi.
Speaker 3:What's up Scott? What's up buddy? Nothing much. All right, I was in the area, I dropped in hey, what the hell, why not?
Speaker 1:Yeah, why not? So what's going on? Everything good, everything good. What's?
Speaker 6:going on. Everything good with you guys, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Great, fucking silence. This All right. Well, you know what? Let's get right into it. We got a lot going on tonight. I don't really care what you guys have been doing. It doesn't really matter to me.
Speaker 6:We know that we know I don't believe that.
Speaker 3:Well, and I am Alan.
Speaker 6:Very big, softy.
Speaker 1:Well, lose back by the way. Yeah, Thank you, Lou. It was fucking torture last week?
Speaker 6:Yeah, wasn't it? This was fucking good Dude.
Speaker 1:This was like carrying a fucking 20 ton lead weight on my back last week with me and Mark, you had big head, todd, come on. Yeah, that was the that was the carry the fucking show and he was horrible. So what is that so for Scott?
Speaker 3:I had to deal with Professor Snape over here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you do kind of look like him a little bit, I act like him. Little bigger version of him, so it's great to be back. Oh wait, no wait, wait, wait. Iron man activate. There we go. All right, he's up, he's up and running, he's up and running. Yes, we get the point on. Tonight it's going to be a good interview Awesome. They're always. They're always good to talk to some hardworking kids right there. Call kids If I call kids, the guys, they're men.
Speaker 1:The kids during their 20s. They're young men. The young men, yeah, okay. Whatever they're not, we are not.
Speaker 3:They're a band, right, it's all that matters. I turned 40. I called myself an adult till then. I was a kid.
Speaker 1:Well, Lou are you saying we're old yeah, I don't know, I might be 60, but I'm still a bad motherfucker. I'll be doing that. I still, still, still. I'm scrappy, I'll beat up. I'll beat up a 27 year old kid.
Speaker 6:And no time when you want to.
Speaker 1:That's not a problem. Just not these kids. Not these kids. I know their parents. I can't really do that.
Speaker 6:It's a little horrible yeah.
Speaker 3:Tricky they are a band. They are a band.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes, all right. So, hey, listen, good evening Allison, hey, sis, sister, allison, patty, patty, yossi, thank you for this wonderful contribution of 45s, still complete, in there, in there, in their covers and everything. Did you say good evening to Dave? Yeah, dave Phillips, king of the 45s.
Speaker 1:Yeah there he is. He took his nappy today. He's going to give him to make it through the whole show. Maybe you know it's seven o'clock, it's late. I got to take a nap Before I watch milk crates. All right, here we go. Let's get this game started. Let's get the show started. 45 poker Get the bullshit out of the way, all right. So we're going to start off with Mark. We'll start off a mark this week, okay, and here we go with a new batch of 45s. I looked at these. They're pretty good. Cool. This is going to make it a lot more interesting. Maybe I have a chance of fucking winning for once Can't win this shit, all right here we go, mark, pulling your first card from Epic Records.
Speaker 1:Epic Records, here we go. Oh shit, right off the bat. What? Sly and the family stone if you want me to stay? Oh shit, nice, that's a tough one, right off the bat. I'm going to get this game started. That's a tough one, right off the bat. Dave Phillips, no nap today. His dog, tony, must have kept them up. I love when people name that the animals have to like people like their first names Like I get. A friend is cat is named fucking like Frank.
Speaker 6:I like that too Fucking.
Speaker 1:I named my cat Morrissey, but you know, yeah, there's something behind it, but we used to random fucking name Frank.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I had a friend's dog named Bert.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 6:See see.
Speaker 1:I knew we go. Luke is your first card From our so records. Oh, little disco going on here. Cool Yvonne element. Oh, I don't know, I don't know why. Yes, keep me hanging on Right.
Speaker 6:If I can't have you, I don't know it's.
Speaker 1:it's. Don't know why I keep hanging on and what's the other side. So I don't know. I don't know that one. You're a moxin Big lead right now. I need to pull a fucking boozy right now. Here we go. I don't recommend in the lead the sound of Philadelphia label. Sound of Philadelphia. Oh shit, the OJs, for the love of money. Wow, you're in the lead now.
Speaker 6:Damn.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, that's a good one, that's a good one All right, I'm going to the front of the deck for this one.
Speaker 1:I'm thinking Patty has a very good collection of singles. It's pretty good man. It's better than the fucking garbage I had in the lead Up to this. But hey, it was a start, right? Yeah, If you have any 45s laying around and you're not doing anything with them, send them to me.
Speaker 3:I'll get them. I'll get them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, yeah, no, mark, yeah, that whole idea with you and then, hey, I'll do it.
Speaker 3:No, Just shut up.
Speaker 1:Pick a card. All right, just shut up and pick a card. All right, I'm going to pick one from Chelsea Records, sussex, sussex Records. Okay, this is. This is from Mark Bill Withers. Lean on me. Oh sly in the family stone and Bill Withers, you got the black thing going on. Now, buddy, you're rolling All right, louie, here you go. And that wasn't racist, if any of us listen to the fuck up, it's got to get better here. You better get better. I'm going to pull it out from Electra Records Lose losing this week.
Speaker 6:I was bragging too, judy.
Speaker 1:Collins cook with honey. So begins the task, yep you lost, I'm out.
Speaker 5:You're out of it.
Speaker 6:There we go.
Speaker 1:I need to pull a good one here. I'll be right back guys. I need to pull a good one. Hold on there we go. There we go From area area Ola.
Speaker 6:I want to be on that label. Areola records.
Speaker 3:I'd like to see the label.
Speaker 1:I'm fucking Mama laid fly, fly, fly. No, no, that was there was. I remember this song. Yeah, not a big hit, but it looks like Mark Unless Mark gets a shit piece of fucking album Right I'm going to go to the back and see what's in the back From Atlantic records. Oh shit, hollin oats, she's gone. Oh, I think Mark wins this, thank you. Thank you, here we go, let's see if you can finish the shit show Toa from from ma'am records. M a m from ma'am records. That was an interesting label I'm going to go to the back.
Speaker 1:It's M a m from ma'am records.
Speaker 6:Okay, okay, oh shit.
Speaker 1:Gilberto Sullivan alone again.
Speaker 6:He was on ma'am records 95 years old, the mother.
Speaker 1:God rest his soul. This is a fucking. You play this fucking. You play this song. You play this 45 and you want fucking, you want to slit your fucking wrists when you're done. If this isn't fucking depression on vinyl. I don't know what the fuck is. This is fucking. It's a good song, but it's depressing. It's depressing.
Speaker 6:I remember I cried when the father died. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, I want to hear about that in a song for you know we always mentioned that with Captain Jack.
Speaker 6:I know you like that. His father dies in the mother fuckers.
Speaker 1:I ain't going back to college. Fuck that motherfucker.
Speaker 6:He's floating in the swimming pool. It's horrible.
Speaker 1:Floating in the swimming pool. I always get the Brian Jones thing in my head with that.
Speaker 6:Floating in the swimming pool and that going back to school.
Speaker 1:All right, here we go. All right From asylum records. This is my third one. This is, oh shit, eagles, one of these nights.
Speaker 6:Biggie, biggie, so okay.
Speaker 1:Now we got a decision to make here. You got a decision. You want me to read it off. Lose out. Yeah, give me your hand first.
Speaker 3:I got sly. If you want me to stay, bill withers, lean on me and hauling out. She's gone. Yeah, you have OJs for the love of money, marmalade, fly, fly, fly. Eagles one of these nights, lou, one of my favorite Eagle songs, scott.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 6:That was hard. I mean yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, buddy.
Speaker 6:The OJs and the Eagles.
Speaker 3:Eagles, put you over the top. Yeah, yeah. A close thought.
Speaker 6:I can't believe how badly I suck.
Speaker 1:That was horrible, I like.
Speaker 6:I'm doing good with the old ones now. All right.
Speaker 1:All right, moving on. Moving on Another would pass that.
Speaker 3:So we got the point coming on.
Speaker 1:The point has been from my hometown with the Massachusetts, right Right on the border of Boston. Colin McLean there he goes. Good luck to the point with this one. He's. He's a. He's a groupie. My brother's a groupie. He's a 63 year old groupie. Your brother's cool. Don't give him that much credit.
Speaker 3:He's your big brother.
Speaker 1:He's my big brother. Here we go. All right, without any further ado, let's bring on the point from with Massachusetts. They debut album. They put out a debut album. We're going to be talking about it. Here we go. Hey guys At the studio audience going wild. What's that?
Speaker 4:They love us already. They love you already.
Speaker 1:Everyone was like that, yeah, yeah. So All right, boys. So you got your, uh, your debut album. You put it together. You were on about what? About a year ago I think you were on the podcast Sounds right About that. You know it's been a while and I think at that point you would, uh, you would had you released uh runaway Right, that was the. Was that your first song that you kind of put out? Yeah, that was the first one, uh don't get a B Mac, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Ignore him. Ignore he's a fucking. He's a distraction. He's a distraction. He's a disrupter. He's a disrupter. He's a disrupter. He's a disrupter. He's a disrupter. He's a disrupter. He's a disrupter, he's a disrupter. So, first of all, introduce yourselves. Remember, it's a podcast, so the, the, this live stream, is just a fucking means to an end. The audience is the audience. So, all right, start with uh. However, you want to set it off. Who's who left or right?
Speaker 2:I'm Brandon McDonald Uh for the band. I mostly play bass and sing.
Speaker 5:I'm JC McGonagall. I play drums for the band.
Speaker 4:I'm Alex Enzone. I mostly play guitar. Uh, help song right, play a little bit of bass here and there, but mostly guitar.
Speaker 1:So yeah, you guys have that unique ability to kind of shift around Right when you don't always you don't stick primarily do, but there's times where you can kind of switch it up yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, if we want to like, I'll rotate uh plan live JC sticks to my kit and then mostly me and him rotate.
Speaker 1:Uh, sometimes Mike to Hopps on the bass, but mostly us three.
Speaker 5:So who who's not?
Speaker 1:here tonight, mike Mike's not with us. Mike Norris, he's not with us. Yeah, yeah, he's too good, he's too good, tell him. Tell him I said asshole, asshole, yep, tell him it's an asshole. Um, I have to say that I know his parents, in case they're watching, I'm only kidding. So you guys put your album together. It's been about a year, so you had come out with a let's go, a what for like a fourth, four track Release earlier.
Speaker 2:No, we had our first single was runaway, and then our second was let it go and then leave it in the morning, and those ones came out like the spring. And yeah, our album just came out, last Friday, which has the three singles on it, as well as nine other original songs so I Listened to it and I already added three of the songs to my playlist.
Speaker 1:And my playlist is finally Curated and I'm just putting trash in there, right. I get over 200 songs, just that. I very, I'm very selective About what I listen to. So three of your cuts no bullshit, I have them in in my playlist. The first one is not like that. I like that. Yeah, yeah, the opening is nice, nice opening, yeah, and you jump right into it. I like the. Not like that. The echo effect that you put in that, yeah, I was a lot to that too.
Speaker 4:Really yeah.
Speaker 1:I like that.
Speaker 4:I was a lot. Yeah, I think it really sounds good.
Speaker 1:So shit like that happens, and I and I say this all the time I tell this story and it kind of comes rings true when it comes to like recording. So the group ABC, they were in 80s band and they had this song, the look of love, and in David Bowie was in the studio while they were recording and he's just watching. He kind of knew the lead, he knew them and so they asked him any advice and he and it was the last minute thing, right. So this is how this happens. He said well, I think you should talk during the song to a segment where you just talk, and they added this little segment into that song, the look of love, and it fucking made the whole song Like it was. It was a nice been. Bowie said that and then literally just got up and walked out of the studio like see you later. And they added that in well, david Bowie tells you to do it, you do it. So this echo oh yeah, it's a nice touch, nice little breakup, and you got a little guitar jam in there.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1:I Like that, yeah, yeah. And then the. The second one I have is runaway. I like that from the beginning. I like that song from the beginning. Yeah, it's got and I think I said this to you before it's got kind of like a 311 vibe, you know.
Speaker 3:I like, and I like that I agree, yeah, yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1:and Then the third one is let it go, you jump right into it.
Speaker 3:I love that song.
Speaker 1:Yeah, jump right into it. It's got good energy to that song In the strum. Good with the strum, kid, I Like you know that, that's that's a nice style. You got your own style. Yeah, what's that all about the strum? That's it. Yeah, it's a it's a nice style. That's that's your thing. It works. Yeah, you know it works. Lou, what do you got for them, for the Good album guys, really good album.
Speaker 6:I like the fact every song sounds different. There's not it's not some albums, you know, you're like three or four songs there's like a similar vein and you know which I kind of. I like the fact that everything had was own little little vibe, some nice grooves in there. Yeah, vocally I mean, I'm hearing, I heard like a Peter Gabriel influence, I thought, and some of them was kind of like modern Genesis at times in the instrumentation. You know, yeah, I like a rhythmic thing, that's I was getting like a Peter Gabriel vibe, like kind of a Kind of funky rhythmic feel, which I it was good it's, it's nice, it's got a great feel on a Good job. Interesting sequence again, it was the album to me and kind of quirky. I think the last three songs are more a little unusual than the ones that preceded it. Good stuff though. So I like I like the drums in the last song, not like that.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Good job, man, thank you.
Speaker 6:So I wouldn't. Where did you and how did you record it? What's that?
Speaker 2:You know that was a process for for doing each song really is different the way we did it. That last one, not like that, I might be like the oldest one. Yeah, that's actually all this one on the album Alex's laptop. We recorded it on garage band.
Speaker 4:Yeah, everything's through garage bands. We do have like condenser bikes we use, and then the guitars are all just plugged straight in, so we don't want any guitars or anything, and then, yeah, just all through garage spins. I think most of the drums are actually AI. Okay they're all mapped out, but yeah, I'll just think on our laptop or on his phone like no studio.
Speaker 6:Okay, well, I noticed the first stuff we heard. This sounds a little more produced.
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, one of it. We we kind of had like the songs kicking around for a while, but then, like once we knew we were gonna put it out, we went back and like reproduced everything and like kind of like tweaked everything. Even like let it go was One that we released first, but then we tweaked that one too. So we went back into a lot of work afterwards Before we listen now we rolled in separate locations.
Speaker 6:It was all done remotely.
Speaker 2:Let's say, a little bit of like 5050, where Alex and JC had the songs on their phone and laptops so they work on it on their own. But, um, you would get together and use monitors to get a full sound and it's good to feed off of each other, to get different opinions on things, and yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't know if we were all. Four of us were in the room like at all times, but there'd be at least like two of us, mostly like three, and then sometimes you'd all be together. But it was like really spread out. Yeah, it wasn't like I said, down and we'd all record it.
Speaker 6:So it is all strictly DIY. You do all yourselves. Yeah, self-produced. Yeah, it's amazing what you can get and sound. I was. I read an article. The guy was a music producer and you know he says one thing about the the DIY thing is that you know you don't have an outside ear to govern you or to suggest. You know it's like the role of producers is gone in some home record. Well, in the thing you know, the reason being like you do what you do what you have. You know we all do the same thing, but, um, I notice there's a big improvement in sound and the whole sonic quality sounds. You know it sounds really good. So I said very professional. So again, good job, guys. Thank you.
Speaker 1:Thank you, thank you, sure, I just really quick, it's so it's released on all streaming services.
Speaker 5:Yep, just about anything you could think of, like. So, but you got the main ones Spotify, apple music, and then, like it's even on, pandora, it ticked off. Oh, it goes to YouTube automatically.
Speaker 1:Um Amazon music music Yep. Yeah, good, because Dave Phillips said he'll check it out If he knows how to download his streaming. What do you think, mark?
Speaker 3:well, this year I got a new car and when I get a car I invest in the sound system. That's all I care about. Think you drive 10 miles an hour.
Speaker 3:I don't care, has to have played this today On Spotify and the sound is great. Driving in my car and speaking of that, your songs Build in intensity. Your melodies just come out like you, don't come in like food fighters. What I appreciate is every song starts a certain way and these melodies just creep out of nowhere. I really enjoyed the whole album. It flowed good. Um, the songs that just stick out to me, of course, let it go. That was the first song I heard from you guys and I've right away when I heard that these guys are good.
Speaker 3:Where you're gonna go has a great melody, very catchy sticks him to near warm sticks of me, and then all day I'm humming that song Free as a bird. I Could hear that on the radio. That really came out great and it sounds good. It's got a nice bass sound in it and and and then I'll be around. That's my jammy song. In that middle I could see you guys extending that to like 15 minutes if you wanted to, as a yeah and uh. Brandon, you're again. Your vocals are great, like I like it when you just kick it up a notch and you get that higher octave. It sounds really good. We got a station in the new york area north of new york city called 107.1 the peak. Your stuff would be at home on that station like it would fit like a glove. So I know that you guys, with the right people here, in your music you're, you're going places. This is all really original, good compositions. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3:And like loose said, the sound. So I'm coming from the mastering side, like it almost sound like you went to a mastering studio Because it's a compression was well done. Um, you know, nothing jumped at you very, very even sounding, and you told me you did it in garage band and and, uh, you know it's like wow, that sounds better than back in the day when people went into a studio, it's, it sounded really good.
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, the one thing is we I like the studio, we have a limited time. So, yeah, a lot of times when, if it was in the studio, we'd be paying like We'd be banged off.
Speaker 6:Guys, mark and I used to do a podcast through a telephone. It didn't sound half as good as what you guys do. Oh, these fucking guys were animals.
Speaker 1:They were fucking too, these, these, plus, uh, peri dedovich, the guy that got this all started, with those two being on this show. They did a fucking podcast be like three hours on a fucking cell phone, like they're fucking holding the cell phone for three hours, that's so hot that's fucking dedication, and if two people talked at the same time, they stepped on each other.
Speaker 3:So it was a lot of what it Minister, big mouth there in the corner there.
Speaker 1:Oh it's, it was fucking horrible, but it was. It was Like just this quality the audio, but they fucking did it and they kept doing it.
Speaker 6:That's, that's, that's amazing, persistent, yeah it's just dedication right, like the problems move, right, crack. I can add something. I've got a couple standout tracks for me, or a medication. Where are you going to go? Who are you going to call? And I'll be around. I agree with mark on that song there was a standout track.
Speaker 1:So that's interesting, the three of us have different yeah, different songs that we like.
Speaker 6:So what does that tell you?
Speaker 1:right there, right. Yeah, there's not like what's that jc? There's something in there for everybody yeah, and that's not easy to do. I don't know if it's by design, I don't know. Do you, do you think of that, or they just come out that way and Do you just kind of say, hey, that one sounded a little bit like this one, like what's that process?
Speaker 2:we've got about. I want to say like 50 songs that are in different stages in the process and the album. We really just kind of picked ones that we thought fit the most together and also were basically our best ones. So We've got. We've got other songs that are Really good as well. It's just it might sound a little bit different or they they weren't as close to being done. So I mean, yeah, we've. We've got a bunch that are basically done. That we chose these 12 is like I don't know. Call it a greatest hits album, if you want. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they're basically all over the map, but we picked 12 that we thought were kind of concise, and even those are pretty, pretty spread out, so you can imagine.
Speaker 3:The other ones are just like all over the place, it sounds to me like you let your songs grow Organically, like I could tell you were working on these for a while, like they don't sound like quick three-minute pop songs. You, you, you fleshed them out, which is a good thing.
Speaker 4:Yes, I don't know, been like a year old, two years old, three.
Speaker 2:They've developed a lot of the time to have the recordings on our phones of what the current state of the song is and then, just like, if I'm driving to work, I'll play it in the car and then I'll think, oh what if we had this at this point, or if I sing this melody here to add something, so Always adding to it.
Speaker 6:Were there any keyboards on there?
Speaker 5:A good bit of keyboard. Actually, I feel like it's it's with the way we did most of the keyboard, apart from where you're gonna go, who you're gonna call which has like the piano now. Yeah, that was like First part of it electric piano everything else is very Kind of blended into the mix rather than put it at the front right who plays the keyboard?
Speaker 4:Uh, I play song. I think jay-z plays some in the record, yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't play in the record, but each of us can play the keys, yeah okay, so jay-z, use this.
Speaker 1:this is the drumming is kind of a I right as uh.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's all. So how?
Speaker 1:do you transfer that to live? How do you do you? Where do you practice? Where do you pick it up? Where do you?
Speaker 5:So I at least, though the way I do it. I know I know he, alex does his drums a little bit differently, but I'll I'll play it Through garage band, like just with my fingers, and it's usually like I I know what's within my limits per se in terms of my ability on drums. So I know, um like I'll try to play it on the Electronic version the way I know I'd be able to recreate live.
Speaker 1:Okay good, it saves the neighbors too, right.
Speaker 6:Yeah, that could be a problem, right? What do you play live? What? What type of kit?
Speaker 5:Uh, so we have a Ludwig.
Speaker 6:So you're playing acoustic drum kit live?
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, okay look, you and jc could have a drummer's conversation if you want. Sure we good. Do you have any questions for him, can I? Talk to him it never gets any respect, by the way. Even in this even in the setup he's in the background, always does that. They always do that.
Speaker 6:It's only because of envy. That's only brandy.
Speaker 1:Brandy got to stick up for the drummer, though he's the bass player they got. You got to kind of stick together on that, yeah but they're rhythm section. That's right. So, lu, what were you gonna?
Speaker 6:say the gigs I play. I use the digital drum kits. So I there's a kid at the spiritual center, play for it's. You know, midline lisa's kit, um, it's okay, it's, it's good, it's interesting. And I have an old rolling Um digital kit with the rubber pads. I got the early 2000s. I still have it, but I did a gig on that recently and the percussion sounds and all the you know the sample sounds are amazing on it.
Speaker 5:Yeah, so it was that kind of gig where I got the, I got the program, all the different kits for the different songs, you know yeah, electronic kits are definitely getting better in terms of like Uh, the reaction from them, but I still feel like nothing beats the, the bounce of of uh like a true drum kit.
Speaker 1:No, nothing beats an electric drum kit from the 80s.
Speaker 6:I had one of those Simmons kits, just need to synthesize it to go with them.
Speaker 1:It never worked on their own. They need to. Design for synthesizer music and I like synth music, so Shut up.
Speaker 6:You remember what they looked like? It was that I was an octagon.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 6:Coolest fucking things ever. They made your wrist and your elbows ache.
Speaker 1:So you guys put the album out on all the streaming services. So where is the um? Is there a financial aspect to this For you guys putting it out there, or is this Just basically on the house, like, do you get any type of uh streaming?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you get like, uh, I think it's royalties, but basically, for how many streams we get, uh, the service that we use to Put the songs out there will pay us a certain amount for whatever we End up. Yeah, like seven cents.
Speaker 5:One stream is actually, uh like one percent of a penny, I think, something like yeah, isn't that insane.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hey, last year we had 10 bucks, yeah we're so much.
Speaker 5:One of you writes it all on your taxes.
Speaker 6:You're careful with that stuff, look at that.
Speaker 5:That's that jasty you were saying people still, uh, people buy it on itunes too. So, uh, if everybody threw it into reverse like 10 years and went itunes again, we would, we would love that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hey, you know what I love on spotify um, when you play, not like that the video comes up.
Speaker 3:That's a lot of live video thing right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that yeah we got the stroke like my parents, got the strobe going.
Speaker 2:So, who did that. I took the video. It's uh jason and alexa in it and we got the stroke going.
Speaker 1:It's the way. It's the 10 second clip right. Yeah yeah, something like that. It's 10 seconds, but I popped it on. I go see that shit. That's like professional shit. That's what you see. I was watching a garbage video. The other put a garbage song on the name of the band. Not the type of not like it was a god.
Speaker 4:You know, what.
Speaker 1:I mean yeah and you know it's just I just pulled that out of my head. But uh, and it's got that like cool little 10 second video that goes with it. I always like I always look at that and go that's pretty fucking cool that they do that. So I saw that and I was. I was pleasantly surprised that you did that. Now you just gotta do it on the other ones.
Speaker 2:Don't be lazy, Get it done, so we'll get it done tonight for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, get on that shit, get on that shit. Can I ask you a question? You're getting this for free, so you better give me something in return.
Speaker 3:You're actually doing me a favor, so yeah, because otherwise Scott would have to deal with me all night.
Speaker 1:So Uh, hey, let me ask you a question. I was with just you last week.
Speaker 3:Whose whose house is in the cover picture on the cover of the album.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that that's my uh parents house. Oh, we repainted it.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I like most of the recordings took place. Uh, I feel like it was fitting typical winter post Because it's run down.
Speaker 3:It sounds like curl river.
Speaker 6:So, that's a house of old america.
Speaker 1:There you go, there you go. Um. So what's next boys? What's next? What do you got coming up Any gigs?
Speaker 2:don't have many shows coming up. We're gonna be on some uh, it's like a Oddcast thing, but they're gonna have, uh, they're gonna have us in a studio so that we're gonna play like eight of our songs. Nice, uh, yeah, they'll have us all mic'd up and videotape that um.
Speaker 1:Where I could fly you down to bokeh. We can fucking set up in here. I got three extra bedrooms. One's got two beds in it, the floor. You can come down a swim in the pool, turn the heater on.
Speaker 2:Well, I was going to us right past out on the floor anyway, so so give me a towel. So we can go forward.
Speaker 1:Now at least you'd be down here before my brother. He's never been down here, so that's something to look forward to, but you guys gonna make it big for.
Speaker 5:No, you won't no, no, no.
Speaker 1:I don't have enough room. There's no room, no room. You just blew a perfect opportunity. So, uh, what is that? Also, did they reach out to you? You reach out to them? What's the name of the podcast?
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, it's actually one of my dad's co-workers, is one of the the guys on the podcast, so he reached out to me and, um, honestly, I forget what the name of it is, but I don't know what it up, but um yeah, we'll be on the name of this one. Never, well, never forget this one. We'll be on that at uh Like march 20th, I believe, but they're gonna send us a video of the whole thing so we can uh.
Speaker 1:Nice nice.
Speaker 2:I can't wait to see it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So what's the um, what's the social media? What's been uh, what's been cooking on that? You got uh you out there on tiktok instagram more, definitely more so instagram.
Speaker 5:We're trying to, we're trying to move into the tick tock world a little bit more, because obviously does that?
Speaker 1:who is it? Is it just one of you that takes control of that and says, hey, I'll do? The social media?
Speaker 5:it's mostly JC, jc yeah, yeah, we each got a little slice of the pie there you go.
Speaker 1:Good, good drummers got to do something other than drum, right?
Speaker 6:more than enough to do.
Speaker 1:JC, lose your biggest fan. By the way, like the army says, the fucking drumming was great like blows right by you three. The first, you know, you too, but Michael's right by that.
Speaker 6:All these gigs I play, at this spiritual sense I'm going. You're slowing it down, you're speeding it up, and it's not me. But every time you see the bass player after he goes you because you're fine man, he goes. It's just them, it's them it's the rest yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Lou lives in Asheville, north Carolina. It's like the fucking the trendy place to be.
Speaker 6:Unfortunately, right, lou. Yeah, yeah, it's a little overdone now. Yeah, the new bumper sticker is welcome. Welcome to Asheville. You're too late, it's too small to have this penny people, but it's an interesting music scene.
Speaker 1:You know kind of like what Winthrop's turning into yeah, it's too small to have that many people. Yeah, that's a whole nother show.
Speaker 3:That's my other part so if I move to Winthrop, you're kicking me out, scott oh you, you can't hang now.
Speaker 1:Well, maybe you could, I guess I don't know. Yeah, you get on the point.
Speaker 3:The point is its own little world and with that's the funny thing yeah, only when I understand the point its own world well, I've told Scott many times I've always wanted to go to Boston. Never have I'm only what three hours away. Why are these days? I'm gonna go to Boston, there you go there you go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so no gigs coming up, nothing in the near future to promote actually Mark Talon asked to play up in North Conway, but we don't have the details yet so I don't know exactly what that entails. But sure I'll be figuring that out soon. Where dude bro?
Speaker 1:bro, bro come up, bro play in North North Carolina bro yeah, that was actually the voice. I'm talking, bro, bro, sorry. Yeah, I know you're talking about that so you don't know the logistics of it or anything, just no, he gave us a weekend.
Speaker 2:It was like the weekend of April 20th, I think, and I don't know if we're playing at bars or what, but I don't know, if we're playing at his house bars both fucking charge his ass.
Speaker 1:Charge his ass, nothing's for free. Nothing's for free when you're struggling musicians, well, you're not really struggling. You guys do pretty good in your, in your non-band form. So I think we had that discussion a year ago.
Speaker 6:You're supposed to quit your day jobs yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:He's supposed to live at your dad's house. Listen to that all day, keep your day jobs, but out.
Speaker 3:JC, are you drinking wine back there?
Speaker 1:yes, I like these guys, I'm in. I'm in the business.
Speaker 6:What's in the glasses, guys?
Speaker 1:oh, you know why I lose a wine con a sword guy? Yeah, this one came from JC.
Speaker 6:It's a ripple it looks, looks like a natural, natural one with the snails backwards.
Speaker 2:I can't see it well, well, then day like 350 on the price tag somewhere never mind, never mind it's just one fucking step above Boone's farm that's it.
Speaker 3:It's the first time I don't have the cheapest wine in the show it's so fucking cheap, they can't even read the name. Enjoy your wine.
Speaker 4:It doesn't enjoy the one yeah, that's who what's that?
Speaker 2:so we're just a literate.
Speaker 1:That's the problem they asked the fucking guy sleeping in the fucking gutter outside the liquor store. Hey, what's a good wine what's a good wine.
Speaker 1:What's? What's the hot wine this week? There's one for 350, sitting the fucking back, you know. Rub the dust off it, though, to get to the price tag. What's in the bag? That's what I like. Let's get that. One can't even pronounce it, but that's good. So you got it. You do have a rock star thing going. Yeah, you can act a little, a little broke, yeah, like a little broke. Yeah, no, mad dog, 2020, you want to touch that stuff? No, no, no, no, no, alright, boys, anything else, anything did we miss anything? Mark Lou, any.
Speaker 3:I'm telling you I feel so strongly about this I will do Scott let you know if I see the station down by me doing any kind of once in a while they do unsigned ban shows where they have people submit stuff. If I hear about it I'm gonna tell them to let you know because you know you're you're regional, you're up there and in Winthrop but you got appeal, you got to get out and you know get other people in other areas liking you. So I'll I'll let Scott know if there's any chance, like if they're doing anything on this station. They're a huge station and I just want to see. I want to see you guys make it. I really do.
Speaker 1:I think you got the good if I do that, I want a piece of that fucking $10 they got last year. Then I just then I'm just gonna call myself a manager I want a piece of that fucking $10. So nothing's for free, nothing's for free.
Speaker 2:Lou, you sent bottle of wine too.
Speaker 1:How's this? I'll be your manager. I'll send you a case of that shit. That's our contract. Send you a fucking case, I'll have it delivered through fucking uber drinks Drizzly.
Speaker 6:I bet it does.
Speaker 1:Ubers. Drinking is how that works. That's a good. It's actually a good fucking thing. Stop that Uber drinks the driver. The driver comes, he else drunk, crashing. He's had a fucking the wrong order. You just take it anyways.
Speaker 6:Welcome to Asheville.
Speaker 1:Uber drinks welcome to Asheville. So, lou, what do you got in closing?
Speaker 6:Again, good work on the album, guys, really, yeah, good solid album again. I'll stress the fact. I really love the fact that you know the songs are very distinct from each other. So you got you know that's and that's no small feat, I think you know, and then you know it all sounds very natural. Good luck with your gigging and keep doing what you're doing. Come down to Asheville and play, but you have to do everything on ukuleles that's the only.
Speaker 1:Thing they both sound like toy guitars so what's the? Difference, it's the difference.
Speaker 6:I be moan effect, I actually. I mean, there's a rock scene somewhere here but it's getting so pushed under by you know other things. A lot of jazz in town which is not not a bad thing, you know I'm not knocking the other forms of music is a bluegrass capital. I mean it's a you know Appalachia, but I think as well, if there's a vibrant rock scene I haven't really seen it yet, unless it's on a certain bigger level, but you know that's the thing if you ever come down here there's, you know there's a need for that.
Speaker 1:So who lives in the underbelly. He lives in the underbelly of Asheville that's right, soft white.
Speaker 6:I got my fingers in the dirt here.
Speaker 1:There you go into the fucking streets.
Speaker 6:Buddy on the dirty side of Asheville, the dirty side of the curve always that's like saying the mean streets of Boca doesn't really have a rent no yeah it doesn't yeah so um nothing around Boston was.
Speaker 1:What's the? What's the scene going on there?
Speaker 4:is it just hard to break into, or yeah, it's a lot of like you go and you have to bring your own crowd and yeah, pay to play yeah, part of the places. So if you don't bring people, you don't make that much money, and then they don't call you back and post COVID borrow money for them.
Speaker 6:So right bar post, covid barters, don't really have to pay you anything. Now these I've heard that it's been used as an excuse to nickel and diamond just say hey, you know you're playing somewhere, but you know musicians as musicians, we know that. You know, even if you bring people it, or even bring a handful of people, what it bar makes off a keg of beers is astronomical. They could always throw you a few bucks, you know yeah, well, that's motivation to make them fucking regret it.
Speaker 1:See what you just look at see what you could have fucking had. See like I know people that saw the cars before they were the cars. You know, like back in those days you could see great bands and the bars in Boston would just, yeah, just come in and play, just, and it was just, it was like that and that's what made it great and I guess it ain't like that anymore changes.
Speaker 4:Yeah, what's that you say. It's not like that, you know yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah look at that drums see how I weave that in.
Speaker 1:I did that on purpose, see, because I'm cool like that. See, I could do that shit. I could do that shit. Well, gentlemen, again, it's been a pleasure. Thank you for coming on. Somebody just said you can get Bill ashes. I was thinking the same thing. Bill ashes is still one of those. Do you ever play there?
Speaker 2:we have a good.
Speaker 1:Have you ever tried? That's one of our friends is like fish it to us should give it a shot, just to say you did it because that place is a fucking. That is the last, the last of the great fucking revere Beach bars, like they're all gone. They're all gone. Your generation ruined it. You assholes, not you guys, just your generation everything changes, everything I know yeah, I know we had the yuppies in the 80s, it's no different.
Speaker 6:I remember like when I was first old up to play rock clubs. You all went to know, went to dance clubs.
Speaker 1:I'm like oh, that's great. Yeah, yeah, but you should give Bill ashes a shot just to say you did it.
Speaker 2:It's what the hell yeah, it's a place to play.
Speaker 1:It's a place to play, so.
Speaker 6:Bill ashes is a club. It's a bar. It's a bar yeah, yeah it's been around forever.
Speaker 1:It's the last of the revere Beach Giants. They used to be like 10 bars up there that you could bounce around on and they given I in the summer it was. It was great, but not no more. Not no more. All right, alex Brandon, jc Mike no show.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the no show guy. Yeah, the cool for the podcast guy. I gotta go see somebody who made their name like this, somebody, something I don't know, whatever the name wasn't. No crates, a turn tables, that's for sure. No, yeah, tell him, tell me, he owes me one now. See, I go out of my way, I disrupt my podcast, I make time for you guys and then he ditches me for some major artist. I don't know where's his prayer. Nerve, we're done.
Speaker 6:Nerve, no respect, no respect. Respect for Scott, respect at all hey, all right boys again.
Speaker 1:Thank you very much for coming on, you guys keep up the good work, keep writing the songs, yeah, great yeah, if you ever want to come on, brandon, to send me a text, you guys come on anytime you want. You can. I'll let you disrupt it, but it's for a favor to be paid back later, like in that scene in the Godfather.
Speaker 1:That's right where they may come a time when I ask you for a favor and at that time, which may never come, you will be granting me. So that's that's kind of where we're at right now. See, I collect favors. You know how you repay me fucking. Just just make it. That's it, just make it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no problem with that. Well, all right boys, if Brandon anything coming up any gigs, let me know and I'll put it out there and keep keep pumping, keep putting them out. You have 50 songs in the can.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, he put in the shit out man, it's good it's good and I'm spreading the word in New York for you guys yeah yeah, you got a geographical areas good people into yeah, yeah, I need more songs from my finally curated playlist all right.
Speaker 5:Well that more coming soon.
Speaker 1:We're already thinking about album number two yep, was I talking to the drama a little comfortable in this interview. He's looking for his cheap bottle of wine of your shot to latrine. Yes, all right, guys, listen, have a good night and, like I said, brandon, let me know what's going on. If you guys ever want to come back, you're more than welcome. Good talking here.
Speaker 3:All right, there, they are great guys and I'm a fan, honestly a fan, not just because you told me you know, oh, this band know they're good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I like them well, before I move on, the beautiful Tiffany van Hill just said what's up y'all? I have to say hi to Tiffany. I guess my brother was interrupting throughout the whole interview. I don't know. Were you watching what he was writing? Yes, you were. That was. I always watch what he was oh, now big head Todd, the wet sprocket comes in good, finally, finally, the show is something now well, I was so bad as a co-host last week he had to call in he just called alive and things up that's all.
Speaker 1:That's all my take it personally, buddy me and my deadpan dry humor
Speaker 6:my dark deadpan dry. Yeah, buddy all right.
Speaker 1:So let's let's jump into the rock and roll Hall of Fame 2024 nominees. I know you guys covered this on. I know you guys covered this on the music relish show. But it's that time of year, it's gonna be talked about and so I'm gonna go down the list and then we can go back up in thumbs up, thumbs down. So it's starting with Mary J Blige. What they call her, the queen of the queen of R&B, is something yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3:I love her voice.
Speaker 1:Mariah Carey, not yet. Don't, don't just reading the list. Okay, no, yeah, and then we'll go back up and thumbs up, thumbs down, share Dave Matthews band Eric B and rock him. Foreigner Peter Frampton, james, addiction, cool in the gang Lenny Kravitz, oasis, senado Connor, ozzy, osborne, shade, a tribe called quest. I actually like this list. Yeah, me too. There's nobody on there that I would. Well, I mean there's. I have my own opinion, but I have some questions. Yeah, there's every, but everybody on there's. That that's a good list. That's a that's a really good list. So let's start with now. How many do they take? Did they have a set number? Like we only take four or six out of the? What is it? One, two? It's a point system. So there's 15 bands. So what do they take? It's a point system, so it could be six, it could be eight, could be yeah, something to do with the judges and then the fan votes that's saying, on our show you could get a billion votes like Ozzy and it only equals one point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, fans get screwed that's just them trying to give away their opinions, their pandering there, they're patronizing yeah, that's what it is, the patronizing the fans. Yeah, did my brother call me a shit head? Be, mack is going to help you. Shit head, what's? It's a shite head, scott shite. Oh, and big head saw the witch proxies. I waited, I did not want, and so he didn't see, doesn't write. I didn't, I didn't want to enjoy.
Speaker 3:He says I did not want to enter very proper very that's the propering no contract at all, jesus, I never interrupt the guests.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dave Phillips here we have a tear here no.
Speaker 6:Jay Giles no, man funk, here we go no.
Speaker 1:Jethro tall. No, jethro tall no, american no fucking no bad company. No, paul Rogers. No, no zebra. Yeah, yeah, no, what's his name? That just died. You would have thought he would have gone in from Canada.
Speaker 1:There you could read my mind my foot no, gordon Lightfoot, yeah, so, mmm, maybe that ship is sailed. I have a thing about. I was thinking about this I don't know if I mentioned this last week. Mark, I think, between, like Jonah, I'm a trading and Gordon Lightfoot, they they spend a lot of their time in their own country and I think the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame holds that against them that they don't because they're not making money for the American.
Speaker 3:They're not coming, yeah.
Speaker 1:So what does that tell you? What does that fucking tell you?
Speaker 3:because and I don't think that's with everybody, but I think with certain people in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. That's a big play. You made me money.
Speaker 6:You made, I think if Jonah trading was bigger or if they were more widely known artists, yeah, they would put them in, but you know she could have been, but she chose not to really yeah she has a following in America yeah chose not to live
Speaker 6:here and record here and yeah, but I think her following would be like along the lines of like some of these old country acts like Lucinda Williams were there. They're almost a niche, a big audience, but you've got to really be a fan to seek this out you know well yeah show crow is more of a mainstream commodity well, jonah, I'm a trading also.
Speaker 1:She had songs on the radio in the late 70s, early 80s and then just kind of, you know, fell off the map, kind of like Melissa Etheridge, just kind of fell off the map, just decided not to really pursue it. I don't know, but I just know that those two that I just mentioned, gordon Lightfoot and her, they stayed in there, their respective countries, and just recorded there and toward there and she's got all the accolades over in England, yeah, and he has all the accolades up in Canada, you know so as a recording artist he was still big here, though he was, yeah, he was, but he didn't really toy here, he didn't record here, he didn't, you know.
Speaker 1:So, all right, so let's start at the top. Mark Mary J Blige absolutely, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3:I think she should be in she. She's such a force of what she did does. She's still current and she is a trailblazer because she kind of melded hip-hop with soul singing, like she was a singer who used hip-hop, whereas other people were just all hip-hop and not you know. I like her for that reason, but I think she should be in Lou as much as that I know of her.
Speaker 6:I mean, I understand she's been very important to music and you know the rap, hip-hop soul realm, which is not my biggest forte. But based upon what I've heard about her importance in her artistry it seems like she's more than certainly eligible. But that's a kind of a not profound opinion on my part.
Speaker 1:I say she's really good, sold a lot of records but there's a lot of artists that have done that. I think the trend over the last five years of really needing to insert women and I know you know people like, oh well, I'm telling you it's it's kind of blatant. Now I think she's gonna get in, but I don't think she deserves to be in. I think I mean, she's good, it's great but well, there's, there's women nominated.
Speaker 3:Another woman might get it.
Speaker 1:If what you say yeah, well, that that that's possibly. That's possibly true. And I see a couple that I would put in before her, actually absolutely would put in before her, and I'll start off this one, and that would be Mariah Carey. Mariah Carey is a fucking. She was a monster. I mean, you put those two side-by-side. And Mariah Carey she's dominated two decades. Two decades she dominated. She has the greatest fucking Christmas song ever written. Not, I mean, the thing explodes every, every Christmas.
Speaker 1:I mean that in itself is amazing and then that's how we're going forever it will absolutely and you know so, mariah Carey again dominated, and so that a lot of them are, a lot of them are insane no, that's it.
Speaker 6:She can sing. Oh, I think she's insane, and she is insane a lot of them are insane.
Speaker 1:You know Taylor Swift is insane, it's just from that. Much money, not much power. They feel that they can do and say whatever they want, because they know the masses will listen to them and they don't care about their critics. It has to, it has to sink in to a bit of insanity, that's why you see the point is there's losing our mind and yeah, I think there's so much untold stuff.
Speaker 6:You know, in that realm of money and fame and power, there's untold stories there to you. Yeah, taylor Swift hasn't really led a normal life. A lot of her she seems like a no good person. I'm not, you know it, that's not a side fucking meme of the year.
Speaker 1:Meme of the year. What's that fucking Travis Kelsie? The meme of him yelling at what's his name, the coach of the Kansas City Chiefs and it says it's not true, my girlfriend does not have a Chinese man ass. Then I put a picture up next to me. I was you, she, taylor Swift has a Chinese man ass looking great.
Speaker 6:I'll never get that out of my mind, thank you, she does she does.
Speaker 1:Taylor Swift has a Chinese man ass, that's the shovel, but hilarious. Whoever came over that. That is the meme of the year.
Speaker 6:Nothing, nothing in 2024 is gonna beat that one you know the problem, the problem with ubiquity, is that eventually people are gonna want to take it down, you know, or something's gonna slip somewhere, you know there's always a backlash to ubiquity you know she, you know she hasn't really me personally.
Speaker 1:She hasn't given me any reason not to not like her no you know, no, I mean, you know that's.
Speaker 3:That's an expanded version of what happens in a workplace. If you work in an office and you get all the promotions and you become powerful, people are gonna be out to get you. They're gonna try bringing down when you're world famous.
Speaker 1:Same thing I think it's over saturation gets people just annoyed with you yeah, over over saturation everywhere we saw you too they got sick of you too.
Speaker 3:They got sick of Bruce Springsteen. Yeah, any man so. Collins, phil Collins, phil Collins.
Speaker 6:Phil Collins. He was every Phil Collins. Is that my wedding, mugging behind me and my wife in the pictures? There you go.
Speaker 1:That's how you, everywhere you was so, phil, I think Mariah Carey should be in Mark love Mariah Carey.
Speaker 3:Some of the greatest songs I heard. She's a stunner. She's beautiful, great voice. I don't think so. I don't just don't think she should be in. I don't agree. So if she gets in, I'm gonna be angry.
Speaker 1:Mark, do me a favor keep track of each artist and who said who should be in, who shouldn't. Can you do that okay, because I want to look back at this when they do announce them and that could be part of the so. Mariah so you said yes, I think she should. Lou, do you think she should?
Speaker 6:no, no all right, the Christmas song aside, I don't fucking call it.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to give rock.
Speaker 6:I'm trying to keep artistic tastes out of what I think. You know like I understand her, she's a great talent, but it that type of music just never doesn't appeal to me, so I have a hard time judging. You know, the influence is anyone tried to be the next Mariah Carey is. This is a very singular artist. But yeah, that's why I said no so did you.
Speaker 1:I didn't.
Speaker 3:I didn't say no out of maliciousness.
Speaker 1:Like I said, I'm like her, yeah just yeah, so somebody won a Grammy recently and Mariah Carey presented it and they were the and it was a female artist and she was like, oh, you know it was, it was what's her name, miley Cyrus, right? And she said I don't care about the, something like I don't care about the show, I don't care about the Grammy. I can't believe Mariah Carey just gave me this award. So she does have that influence over these odd. She does have that impact on these younger artists that they're like fucking. Mariah Carey just gave me an award. I remember when that dude it was back in 2012 go to a you know him and Kimbera Kimbra from from Australia.
Speaker 1:Why, like her and Prince gave them the award. And Kimbra was just like I can't believe Prince just gave me an award. Like that's that doesn't happen too often, when the artist looks at the presenter and goes, oh my god. So yeah, I think she does have that impact. I think she does have that the everything that it takes to be in the rock hall of fame. So that's two no's and a yes. Mary J was two no's and a yes right so.
Speaker 6:I was almost.
Speaker 1:I was almost in Biblon on that one yeah but he basically said I think he said no, right, luke yeah yeah, see how I swayed that vote.
Speaker 3:I'm like I should be a Democrat. I should be a Democrat. I just like yeah, no, you're like John Wender, that's what you're looking at all right Lou share absolutely.
Speaker 1:Okay, I agree. I don't think we have to talk about um. Yeah, linda runs, that's definitely hit the rock. All the fame, yeah, um, I don't think there's much more to say about share than she share, yeah.
Speaker 6:Yeah, even even based upon some of the 60 stuff. That's what Sony yeah. I mean their longevity itself is. And she had to endure a lot of criticism. Uh, people said I remember like she was considered sexy but not so much beautiful. But she had to defend her looks, she had to defend her voice. People said she was saying flat. She didn't. She had a deep voice for a woman.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, but that was part of that was sexy too.
Speaker 6:But, um, yes, some very important songs, um, even her solo stuff throughout the seventies, you know, with the, with the modern stuff, you know okay you know I like the video.
Speaker 1:we're here on the battleship. I was just going to say that. So, uh, Taylor Swift has a Chinese man ass in that video. Share has a lower back with a crack in it. There's really nothing else there. Really she doesn't. There's no ass there. She's got no back. It's a lower back with a crack in it. That's that's what she has. Yeah, yeah, when she puts the phone in her back pocket and dial somebody, it's not a butt dial, it's a crack dial. First woman in history to crack dial someone.
Speaker 6:So what you're saying Tonight sure was not good for women's posteriors. Well at this point so far.
Speaker 1:Well, mary J, she got some rump.
Speaker 6:Mary J Got some rump, so we got that. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, share, share, share, share, share, share, share. We give it a three, three thumbs up. Yeah, all right, all right, this is an interesting one. Start with Lou Dave Matthews band.
Speaker 6:Yes, why I am. I'm not a so much a fan, Some stuff I like. I think their endurance, their following, Um, I said I think he'll go on for a long, long, long, long time. Uh, he has his own XM channel and you know I was surprised that some people I know who like music, I didn't think they were the type of band like a couple of friends of mine like I love them and I'm like, okay, you know I'm like a little lukewarm too, I think the dropper plays too much, but, um, but I do think they'll endure, almost like the grateful dead. Yeah, and I think he's had a, he's had enough radio exposure. Looking at from a commercial aspect, you know he's, he's no stranger to a hit song or two and, like Mark says, Mark praises his acting and when Dixie.
Speaker 6:So I think I think based upon his acting when Dixie alone, apparently I'm Mark's recommendation, I say I think they deserve it.
Speaker 1:So just message and forget Dave Matthews. Another Dave Matthews hey, oh shit, look at that.
Speaker 3:Oh, I threatened him. I said if you don't listen tonight, you're a dead man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, tom's below. The man that started all this, the man that broke the ice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it wasn't for Tom, you guys would be here.
Speaker 3:He's forgotten in history, like in the beetle.
Speaker 1:He's no Pete best.
Speaker 6:He's the Pete best Okay.
Speaker 1:So, mark, you say yes, dave Matthews no.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna. They're going to be around for a long time and that's right and they're going to be. He's going to be like the great full dad. He's going to be around. For that reason I'm I don't think it's his time, I think that there's others that should get in, so I'm saying no now.
Speaker 1:Well, look at it, the list, yeah, I'd say. Looking at the list, there's always been around. For what? 30 years now, yeah, something like that going on almost 20, late 20s, 27, 26 years.
Speaker 3:And his role, otis. His role was just memorable.
Speaker 6:I mean pretty rabid following.
Speaker 1:I say what would you say? He's got a good catalog, he's consistent. A lot of people say that he sounds the same.
Speaker 3:You don't really know him. If something sounds the same, he's a very right, that's just saying some people.
Speaker 1:it's the voice, it's always. There's nothing really. Oh, you guys must be talking about rock. I'm all the fame, yeah.
Speaker 6:Check out the big brain on Tom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've got the big brain on. You're a smart motherfucker, that's right, that's right. I say what's on this other? What's on the rest on the list? I say no, not this time. Okay, not this time. All right, mark Eric, be in, rock him.
Speaker 3:So, lou, I know you're not probably. I'm going to say, the reason that there are hip hop, rap or RNBRs that should be in the rock and roll hall of fame are the reason Eric B and Rock Heim should be in their trailblazers. They did something different, so, yes, I absolutely say yes.
Speaker 1:Eric B and Rock Kim are fucking hip hop icons, not just legends. The hip hop icons there is nobody. And I'm a huge biggie fan, I think biggie was. But so they say you know, they say I say I always say that you know Stevie Wonder was the greatest entertainer, musician, singer. If he was a, you know, prince is one a, you know what I mean. So if he's number one, prince is one B. However you want to put it, he's that close to Stevie Wonder, right? Eric Rock him is just, he was so fucking unique. He still is. Still.
Speaker 1:Is Eric B what he did with the turntable and putting these beats together? Yeah, this sampled. But that's a talent. A lot of people just they kind of brushed that off. That's a talent to be able to take these songs, these old songs, back then without computers, right, and put them together. And that shit wasn't easy. Yeah, so because Jay Z is in there, I think he is right. Then Jay Z get in. I know LL Cool J got the special award or something. And then you know there's a couple rap bands in there. Run DMC is in there. I don't think they'll get in, but I think they should be in. I think they should be in there. They were that groundbreaking. Just rock him is just the fucking greatest. It's the greatest Lou. You have any either?
Speaker 6:way.
Speaker 6:Well based upon what I've read about them and like in preparation, because we were talking about that too, you know, last week, like you said, they seem to be groundbreakers and very influential. And just because I mean also, you know I'm not a big fan of rap, I do understand the importance of it. I respect the fact it was a new form. All this stuff was new, you know it was. Rock and roll has been around forever and R&B and soul has been around forever. This was like an offshoot that was totally unique, you know. So, yeah, I would be inclined to say yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, lou back to you.
Speaker 1:Foreigner.
Speaker 6:Put them in. Put them in, yeah, I say put them in.
Speaker 6:They've been there, put them in the door and let them in. Let them in A great. I call them the great radio rock. Fm radio rock bands there were. There were a good band. I really we're talking about that drummer, dennis Elliott, right, mark Mm, hmm yeah, solid rock, great, great songwriting. Lou Graham is one of the great underrated rock and roll singers. There you go, soulful rock, and I mean I like their ladder day hits too. When you know I like the rock stuff and you know, even when they went ballad and kind of soulful, I thought they did it really really well. And, mark, you posted something that I make. Jones got Parkinson's disease. He just did not tour, he just announced it.
Speaker 6:Yeah, but I, you know, for sentimental reasons I do like that kind of era of, like FM radio rock, you know, guitar solos, guitar riff, intros. Yeah, you're much anymore. Yeah, I think they've. I don't think they ever did anything bad that I thought they did.
Speaker 3:But so that's my vote, mark you know, I always used to say, far and faceless, like they're not Led Zeppelin, they're not Pink Floyd. They had a kind of a standard rock and roll sound. But then I realized that double vision what's the album after? I'm writing our name on the wall. I can't remember the name of that Head games, those are some of the fate. Those are my favorite albums growing up and but they have done a lot. If you're talking about success wildly successful, well produced albums, and yeah, they were a big, potent force of rock and roll so I say yeah.
Speaker 1:I gotta go with. Yes, I think they're going to get in. I think again. Lou Graham, one of the greatest singers, frontman voices underrated. We've said this I don't know how many times on the show. Lou Graham never just like Paul Rice. They never get that credit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean yeah, really Do you know? Shame. But Lou Graham, it's, yeah, that foreigner. Like who's who's the face of far, and really there isn't. It's far. And like the band is the band? Yeah, right, it's cool, yeah, which is that's kind of different, you know. So I think they'll get in, just because of their longevity too.
Speaker 6:They had a long career, they had a lot of hits, yeah a lot, a lot hits and as a band itself, as a band of musicians. You know, there was no Mick Jones was no guitar hero. No, there was no standout instrumentalist. It was, like you said, it was an ensemble. It was a band like super tramp type thing. Well, yeah, yeah, sure, like you know, the guy could play guitar. So it wasn't based up. There was no one.
Speaker 1:It wasn't based upon anyone individual, you know what's the first far, far in a song you remember hearing I had to be off the first record. It was a Sunday.
Speaker 6:Yeah, like any other day.
Speaker 1:Yeah Down down, down down down.
Speaker 3:That's a good opening to me it was double vision, because my sister was in college and she came home and yeah had double vision, yeah, and they look so cool in the car. That was like one of the coolest pick.
Speaker 1:Their first album was pretty big, it was pretty big.
Speaker 6:It came out star rider.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was pretty big. I was like head knocker Right.
Speaker 6:Yeah, it was a weird song. It was like a 50s. I was like their Jamaica almost.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, so uh. Tom says no me and Mark say yes.
Speaker 6:I said, I said yes oh you said yes. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Mark, you say yes, yes, Tom Spelone says no, he's wrong. He says his tremolo is awesome, tommy's got to disagree with us.
Speaker 6:Uh huh, uh huh, being a contrarian.
Speaker 1:Uh, let's see what happened. Okay, uh, peter Frampton, I'm going to start this one off. I'm going. I'm trying not to say Ghana on the show.
Speaker 6:I'm going to start this one off, go on, go on, peter Frampton, just like Todd Stockman, yeah Well.
Speaker 1:Peter Frampton to me. You know I did this. You make the call last week and I put Peter Frampton, uh, you know, or Peter Frampton comes alive or live rust, like which one? Right, and everybody picks, the majority of them picked. Frampton comes alive. How many songs can you name off that double album? Four, three, right, yeah, yeah, Just like the Saturday night fever double album. There's only five songs on that on that whole double album that you know. But it's a great album, right? So Peter Frampton had show me the way, right? Uh, what, what was the other hits off of that album? Do?
Speaker 3:you feel I want to be by your side was a kind of a hit.
Speaker 1:Kind of right, do you feel like I do Right? So that's well, that's three. I'll give you that one, mark Three. Nobody can remember any other songs off that album. It was so fucking imprinted in their head. The album cover, the, the. You know the the constant rotation of those songs right Even today, but it's a double record. There's nothing else really on there that stood out.
Speaker 3:So shine on, but was that a hit?
Speaker 1:Was that on the radio? Was it a big hit? No, I'll tell you what, though.
Speaker 3:I just played it the other day. I played it's entirety at work. It's a great microcosm of seven. It does the whole album plays very well. It puts you back in that time you could smell the leaded gas fumes, you know and then you can just remember the hot summer days, and so the whole album is good. But you got a good point. I mean, as far as what was played on the radio. It was, yeah, a couple of songs.
Speaker 1:And so Frampton had the minor hits. After that it minor hits, you know.
Speaker 6:I mean you after that followup record. I mean you, there wasn't much.
Speaker 1:There was nothing much, so I mean. So what's his career? What was his career he? He was a guitar player. We are the people here. He never, never, topped that one album. He could never reach that level again, which is typical rock and roll story. The band has that one big album and they can't reach it.
Speaker 6:It was a fluke, it was almost a fluke. He blew his nose, so too much.
Speaker 1:They live a boot of con. But they fucking kept going up and kept going up and kept going up. Cheap trick kept getting better after live. A boot of con right. Peter Frampton didn't do that, he didn't take those steps, he didn't have the hits, he didn't have that. You know that appeal. He got older he didn't look like the younger. You know that handsome. You know, dr Sergeant Pepper was a fucking big mistake too.
Speaker 6:Yeah, Well, right after the live album you know it all went bad for him.
Speaker 3:He took bad career advice because when he did I'm in you. He said I got to do what the fans want me to do, which was the biggest mistake, and that album does suck.
Speaker 1:But he created that fucking talk box, yeah, the talk box. And so what you know? How often does that use the music.
Speaker 6:Joe Walsh, I mean yeah, Rocky Mountain.
Speaker 1:Wait, Jeff Beck, yeah, so one one song here one song there in the big picture, so I don't think he belongs in this. So I'll move on, mark.
Speaker 3:I say yes, even though he only had that one big. He was part of Humble Pie, which was a huge influence on a lot of hard rock bands that came out in the 80s, and even after his career went down he was still relevant. I mean he, you know, he had a resurgence in the 80s. He was in bigger places again, but he had as a guitar player. I can tell you I know a ton of guitar players that were influenced by him. He's got a very unique way of solo. They're not blues, there's something.
Speaker 1:But that is he rock and roll hall of fame. I know it Look at it.
Speaker 3:Is it rock? I think when you have that one album, that's as big of a monster as that album be careful with that.
Speaker 1:Be careful with that there's a lot of people that these big monster albums that never yeah.
Speaker 3:And should they be in the rock or all?
Speaker 1:the fame. You can't use that as a criteria.
Speaker 3:But did we see that album cover for years. Like you still see it every. Even a kid now, like the guys in the point, they probably know that album.
Speaker 1:Well, no doubt it's an iconic album cover, like I said in the four songs that come off the album that nobody else can remember other songs other than deep dive people and music, music people like us. But even I can't remember a lot of songs off that album and I had it and I played the fuck until the grooves were done. This is your choice. I'm not not saying you're wrong, not saying you're wrong, but I can't say that I can't buy that. Just one big album with people can remember the deserves rock and roll hall of fame.
Speaker 3:It's not just success, it's also going into the influence character category. So you know his career, so I say yes, all right, lou.
Speaker 6:I'd say squeak him in, based upon based upon current criteria. Like I said, it wasn't important now, but I think if you had the album in front of you might so this my things was, you know, or if I saw the songs in front of me like there might have been more recognized, I think, than we can remember now.
Speaker 6:I would remember the things that I say squeak him in, because I do think. I think he's a fabulous guitar player. I think he's underrated as a guitar player when a friend that comes alive, you know that was the whole thing. But he's much more than than that. I said 70s rock kind of icon. Yeah, because he could have been in Fleetwood Mac instead of Bob Welch.
Speaker 3:Bob Welch. Yeah, yeah, good point, they would have been a little heavier.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, by the way, I just want to go back to one when you said that Mariah Carey shouldn't be in, but fucking Carly Simon is in, so Mariah Carey, yeah. Criteria yeah, I mean or I didn't even say, I mean Cheryl Crow versus yeah, mariah Carey I mean look at this record says anyway, that's it, let me see. Tom says it's almost 50 fucking years old.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, tom, you're almost 70 fucking years old, hey oh, all right, moving on before these two start going out. Oh yeah, I say no.
Speaker 1:Mark says yes, lou, you say yes, yeah, yes, it is All right. The next one, we'll start with.
Speaker 3:Lou Jane's addiction, no, Mark, I say no, not as much of an influence, even though they were different and they sold a lot of albums. But they had their day in the sun and nothing and I don't think they're worthy of the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1:I say yes. I say yes because of the fact that they have good album sales. They did have a big following in the 90s. They created the festival. The festival, yeah. You know what?
Speaker 3:That's true, that is right, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, lollapalooza, they created that, they groomed, they nurtured that thing. I mean, that's a fucking big deal.
Speaker 6:Maybe a special not for Perry Farrell, but I mean you might hear Ben Court stealing here on the radio. I don't think the music has really lasted.
Speaker 1:Well. I mean you can hear it on the 90s channel on XF.
Speaker 6:Not often, not often.
Speaker 1:Well, more than you probably hear fucking Peter Frampton I don't know about that. Not on the 90s channel.
Speaker 6:On the 70s channel it pops up I think Jane's addiction was groundbreaking.
Speaker 1:I think they were the. They were the LA scene for a while. They had a lot to do.
Speaker 3:They were that whole.
Speaker 1:Thing.
Speaker 3:They were one of the biggest breaths of fresh air when I was getting bored with music. They weren't one of those bands that came along and were different, and they have been caught stealing, I was like they're good, yeah, they have to.
Speaker 1:That's not even my favorite song with them, but their first album is fucking. It's one of those almost perfect albums. I don't think there's a bad track on it in a great album cover too Great album cover. Jane Jane's Addiction's first album. I think that I think they get in because I think the Rockwell Hall of Fame the voters are probably a lot of 90s kids, you know, young adults who, good point, saw Jane's addiction grow and how big they were. I'll never forget this.
Speaker 1:So there was this fucking stupid show on MTV in the 90s and it was these, you know. You look back now and it was. They were hand selected. It was this group of kids, you know, they were probably early 20s and they would play videos and there was five of them, right, and they would say either yes or no to a video and the majority would rule and that video will never be played again. It was like the death, the death sentence, right, and they gave these fucking idiots the power for that. I'll never forget watching it and the video was and go and watch this video. Go and watch this video. Jane says it was live, right, and they start off with the Jamaican drums, right.
Speaker 3:Is that the Dane Sand and Dundun?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and Perry Ferrell has his hair all like really done up and it's a great, like you see in this concert footage and they do a great job of it live and it's different, you know, a little different than the album version. And they go to the studio and these kids watch it and they were like that was stupid Now and they voted the fucking video off of MTV. Right, voted off. Little did they know that that fucking that should have been on MTV because Jane's addiction was just. They blew up Jane.
Speaker 3:Jane says on my local New York station, k-rock. They were the ones. They were the king of the 90s. They played all the best, you know grunge. Whatever Jane says was on like every fucking ten minutes and I got tired of it because it's a good song, but they played the live version yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my brother calling says name for JA songs Jane's addiction. I think he meant no, whatever, no name for.
Speaker 3:Jane's addiction songs. He's asking you oh, the mountain song.
Speaker 1:Jane says been caught stealing. Then what else is there? What's that?
Speaker 3:The fourth. It's always so hard. Come on, come on.
Speaker 1:Let me see I can't tell you brother. Brent City, that's a good one.
Speaker 6:Yeah, yeah, I mean they just know how long were they before they can point out. For pyros, was that it?
Speaker 1:So they broke up and Perry Ferrell started Pono for pyros. They were pretty good.
Speaker 6:That's a big hit.
Speaker 1:They were the kind of that was kind of that mad season type thing with Lane Staley.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when Allison Chains broke up he started they did mad season. So the song, the group Pono for pyros they got the name of the group out of. And I remember in the 80s and the 90s everything was in, like these local newspapers, like you could find like all this crazy shit, like they were you know, hey, call me Like it was a lot of prostitutes and you know call girls in the backs of these. Like you know magazines, local newspapers, and they saw one and like one of these newspapers are a magazine and it was they were selling Pono for pyros. It was like an ad in a magazine. Yeah, that was. They were like that's the name of the band this is the name.
Speaker 6:It's a good name. It's a good name.
Speaker 1:It's great, it's great.
Speaker 6:They were like late 80s too Early 90s there was. There was around the time that you know the PMR was still around the print.
Speaker 1:Print was still big. Yeah, it was still big. So I say yes and you guys say no. Yeah, all right. Yeah, all right, mark, cool in the gang.
Speaker 3:Absolutely yes. What can you say? Popular, successful, influential part of the 70s. And yes, I just like I say yes.
Speaker 1:Summertime, one of the greatest summer songs ever. Yeah yeah, summertime. That's one of the greatest jams ever, lou yes.
Speaker 6:Yeah, unaggravably they have to be in. Why aren't they in already? They shouldn't know already.
Speaker 1:They shouldn't see. This is what we're talking about.
Speaker 6:Just put the fucking whole thing. Yeah, none of us respect the institution, tom doesn't. Tom's scared God. He's sketchy about it too, you know.
Speaker 1:So you. So there's a whole generation that didn't know the original cool in the gang, mm Funky. They only know she's too hot, rosanna.
Speaker 6:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, in the celebration and you know all this, they don't know the original cool in the gang. What was the name? What was the singer's name? See the CJ or something that they brought him in and you know and went. They went pop. They did really fucking good. But listen to this 70 stuff. You're not hearing that.
Speaker 3:You're hearing some good funk.
Speaker 1:You're hearing some good funk, some good, you know, yeah, jungle.
Speaker 3:Not not going for the commercial.
Speaker 6:Just no, they didn't have Funky. Yeah Well, they didn't have funky hits.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's like they actually reinvented themselves with. Most bands can't fucking pull that off and successfully right Takes a big change, because none of their songs in the 80s were like the songs in the 70s. Yep, what's his name? Mark?
Speaker 3:and Lou, yeah, robert Coolbell. No, that's, that's no who's Michael Ray Kevin Bell singer. No, it's different Dennis D T Thomas. Ronald Bell James JT. Taylor Ronald Bell, ronald Bell, him JT.
Speaker 1:Taylor, I know it's two letters. I think it's JT, tell J.
Speaker 3:One of the games JT Taylor.
Speaker 6:James JT.
Speaker 3:Taylor.
Speaker 6:Yeah. Yeah he had a smooth. He had a smooth pop for us.
Speaker 1:Oh, he was. Yeah, he was good. Yeah, you know, you like them.
Speaker 6:So those songs are huge. I mean they were there were Rosanna and celebration. That's right up there all the whole notes, 80 stuff fucking celebrate nice fucking hate.
Speaker 1:That is the consummate fucking white people song. But you know what can block? I would hate it Commercial?
Speaker 3:no, I hate it because it doesn't hurt it everywhere.
Speaker 1:This is birthday party? They play that fucking song. There's a reunion? They play that song. There's a wedding? They play that song I.
Speaker 6:Yeah, only a white wedding black people don't listen
Speaker 5:to that.
Speaker 1:All right, Mark was doing his best white guy dance just then.
Speaker 6:Moving.
Speaker 3:I.
Speaker 1:Went through a festival a couple weekends ago, a seafood festival here in Boca, and there was a live band playing. There's a lot of white people there and then fucking white people. They were just like I felt like videotape in them. I would have been cool. Just weddings, dude. These fucking festival go is like you know these food festivals and no that, that the Elaine fucking you know Seinfeld thing. So yeah again. So black people don't listen to that song, they don't. It's a white man's song. It's a white person song celebration mark. All right, so we all agree, all right. Lenny Kravitz, mark.
Speaker 3:Say no. He had some hits. He's Influential in a lot of ways, but I think he was fashion, like Bowie was a fashion guy, but his music was always good. I Like to couple albums from him, but I don't think he's worthy of the Hall of Fame, definitely don't think so. I don't have an impact he's on the on the music business.
Speaker 6:Lou, I said no a couple hits. Yeah, I Like some of stuff, some stuff I don't. But, like I said, I think he's more of an assimilator of music. You know you simulate a lot of it. You know the comparison of John Lennon you can be funky and Rockies kind of. He's kind of communion like, but I don't, I'm not seeing the real impact there. But I Think they're gonna let him in.
Speaker 1:I don't think he belongs, but I think they're gonna let him in just based on I'm just gonna say it fucking checking a box. Yeah, good artist, yeah, good artist. I'm not taking anything away from him.
Speaker 3:I don't think he belongs in there yet, because he also hangs with all the right people in the business. He's very influential behind.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I mean. I'm gonna let him in yeah.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I thought Zoe was a pretty good cat woman too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was yeah, she was yeah.
Speaker 6:I'll put her in the rocker hole thing I.
Speaker 3:I Hate version of America. Woman, I can't. I can if I hear yeah, I didn't like that shit either.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah, that's up there with me, with I'm susie and the banshee's doing dear prudence yeah.
Speaker 6:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I hate it. All right, I'm gonna start this one. This is a definite yes, fucking monsters, monsters, they, they ruled the world for about three or four years. Oasis, yes, oasis, yep, mark I.
Speaker 3:Say yes because they. They were the first album. That was great and I did. But I'm talking to people now in their late 20s, early 30s, like my son-in-law. I didn't realize they had on that generation when they came out and for that At reason alone, the attitude is pure rock and roll. Them was f you rock and roll. They just they're. They're good and I love they should be in. I.
Speaker 6:Love, I agree, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're one of those bands like a like death leopard world. I there was a time like I like some of those early racist singles and stuff like that, but I didn't realize how big they were. Like certain other bands I'm like, oh, they were that really huge and definitely popular.
Speaker 1:But yeah, watch the documentary there's. There's a documentary on it. I can't remember the name. It's fucking at one point Noel Gallagher's. Like they were gonna do a fucking concert, just them, and they found he went out and he was kind of doing the logistics and found the biggest fucking area he could find and it was like he's going this is gonna be, this is ours, and they fucking filled it. You know, they were just amazing.
Speaker 6:I always like did a bit for rock and roll too. I.
Speaker 3:Always heard from my son-in-law other than England, the big competition. He saw her, an oasis, like they were competing faces, hands. Yeah, yeah, that was One that blur?
Speaker 1:yeah, but they're not always but in the end in the end, though.
Speaker 1:In the end, damon Albert from blur Went on to create gorillas and became fucking World, worldwide and on his own, and they be their friends. Like him, and him and Noel like they as they got older, like what's up. But he actually had Noel come in and play on a gorilla song, and so I watched the documentary yesterday or was it two days ago on the stone roses okay, ah, and I'll send it to you. The fucking Manchester accent you have to put on the fucking the captions Shit, that's that Manchester accent is fucking. So the reason I bring them up is it's a good documentary. It shows their kind of reunion in 2013 in the story that that happened, the thing that happened to stone roses.
Speaker 1:It's kind of fucked up, but there's one quick clip of Liam Gallagher coming to this this they did this like they wanted to do a, a Warm-up, before this big like Oasis did this giant fucking area to do a concert, and they did it at this hall that held like a 1100 people, and they announced it like four in the afternoon. If you want to see this show, you get a free ticket to the show. You have to come down here by four o'clock. The first thousand people will get a free ticket to come in. You have to bring a Stone roses piece of memorabilia, a t-shirt, something, and they would look like if you brought a CD. They would look inside the jewel box and see, okay, and I think they might have stamped it to to make sure that they don't hand it off to somebody else, type thing, right, and so you know, it's just, it's a great scene, it's a great thing to build up to this, like they were, like we got to do live first before we do that.
Speaker 1:And there's a quick clip of Liam Gallagher coming in on the backstage and he looks right at the camera and he said this is Liam. Gallagher says Stone roses are the greatest band to ever come out of Manchester. End of story. And they were, and they fucking were. Yeah, and I'd said the drama for stone roses, renny Lou, this guy was. They said he was like the Jimmy Hendrix of the drums. This guy can fucking play anything.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was. Yes, that's a big, that's a big characteristic of their music.
Speaker 1:Hit the drumming drum beats man and he's fucking flawless and effortless and just smooth and like they were. They would have been Oasis before Oasis If they didn't get fucked by the record company immediately. But the stone roses, you got to see, I'll send you the names called like how does a stone or something like that? It's really good, it's like 90 minutes, but it gives you the whole story on the stone roses. So so we all agree Oasis, oasis should death now. Interestingly, interesting now. Okay, so if they get in, right, made of stone, that's, it is called made of stone. Do they all show up? I think that's gonna be interesting, that's gonna be worth anyone.
Speaker 3:Is there a reen? If anyone doesn't show up, it's gonna be Liam, because Liam has said repeatedly fuck the rock and roll hall of fame, but no after on the rock and roll hall of fame, so In.
Speaker 1:Liam, anyone doesn't show up?
Speaker 3:I think it'll be Liam.
Speaker 1:Liam is fucking killing it.
Speaker 3:This is why I say America, though Everywhere else in the world, but not he doesn't care so much in America doesn't care, he's got Oasis money. He's got Oasis money you know what it is too. He's like Queen right. Queen were put around the whole world except for they didn't care. They made a ton of money.
Speaker 1:You know well if he came to America, I think he'd have a fucking. He'd have no problem. I think the Oasis fans from the 90s and 2000s would show up in droves to see him. Yeah, probably. I think he would draw bigger than Noel Gallagher in the in the high flying birds.
Speaker 3:High flying birds yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they, they're not playing that, but I think I think Liam could could do it. He just like again, he doesn't. He has Oasis money to stay in Europe and just Fucking own it, you know why less you know, you know what?
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, you know what Oasis money is right. Oasis money is fuck you money Fuck you money, exactly All right.
Speaker 1:Lou Sinead O'Connor. Yes, why?
Speaker 6:I Think she was huge, the important in her time, you know, I think, also, based upon that, her impact, I mean she was not a an unknown artist, she was not an underground artist at all. She hit the mainstream, you know, pretty fast, and I Think her influences is far and wide too, I do, and I think she's underappreciated, mark.
Speaker 3:Yes, first singer, but then she did Lay your hands on me. She automatically went was an American sound and and she was influential in that aspect also, stances, she wasn't afraid to take a stand, which to me counts a lot towards your artistic merit. She was ahead of the time a lot of issues.
Speaker 1:Music was just damn good, really damn good, right from her first thing you know.
Speaker 3:But yes, yes and and unfortunately she died, which make it her in I don't want. It's a shame that she couldn't get any better merit, but dying make, get her in rock rock role was about attitude.
Speaker 6:You know it's, yeah, it's more of this change after 67 years, but she had fucking attitude, you know, yeah, yeah, so the way, so something you think about that. I mean, like I said, they did their bit for rock and roll. I think there's it's an unspoken category, you know. Attitude, or just what rock and roll was supposed to be, was you. Rock roll was a thumb in the eye, you know yeah. Yeah, so she definitely stuck couple thumbs, I think, but but and a beautiful talent.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, powerful powerful voice the lion in the cobra. Perfect album I put that right up there with the pretenders.
Speaker 1:Debut album, perfect fucking album, start to finish. Then she came out with you know, nothing compares to you. She made that song fucking iconic. Yeah, she didn't have a lot of hits, didn't have a lot of airplay, other than a few. You know, lay your hands on me and Mandinka was one of those. It was bad and it and it right, nothing compares to you, didn't have a lot of radio play and today you really don't hear a lot of her music, but the influence that she had and I think posthumously. So what is it? It's, it's One of these three D's and like it's something. It's delay and then die. Before they, the, before they, they let you in, right, the VA like that's like a rule with the VA.
Speaker 1:You know you have a claim with the VA and they'll they'll delay it until you die, you know, and they'll give you to you. I shouldn't say that, but so I think They'll give it to her just posthumously. And again, my man Morris, he, my man Morris, he fucking said it.
Speaker 3:Yeah he had a great quote.
Speaker 1:He fucking said it basically. He said you motherfuckers burned her at the stake her whole career and Then, when she died, you all of a sudden were her biggest fan. That's basically what he said in his statement, and he's right, he's right, I was shocked.
Speaker 3:I was shocked when she was booed at Madison Square Garden. Chris Christopherson had to say don't let the bastards get you down, but the concert was a concert for Bob Dylan. There were fans. Fans, right, this is mad J pride one, but if you're a fan of Bob Dylan, why you booing her? You know it's like and she really that that was Villain.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, she was villainized and that was that. But yeah, again, these motherfuckers wanted nothing to do with her. They kept this. She's crazy, yeah, keeping her at a distance. Wrecking companies fucking abandoned her. You know, fans abandoned her.
Speaker 6:Are artists abandon her that's an odd yeah.
Speaker 1:Other artists abandoned her. So this is this, this is the thing. And when he said that, I was like fucking, exactly, exactly, and then when you die. I stuck with her through that whole Pope thing and back then that was a big deal Because she was a fucking good artist. She was, you know, she just had what it takes. She had that it factor.
Speaker 3:And your, your brother said her right sang Irish rebel music. That's right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and so I think they'll let her in. But they're fucking hypocrites, all those motherfuckers. Okay, maybe 10% of the people that are voting were like they would. They stuck with her and they believed in her, or they listened to her and they still bought it, but the rest of them, nah. Do you think you're gonna be the cool person?
Speaker 3:to let in. Yeah, do you think if she didn't die she'd be a nominee?
Speaker 1:No, no, not at all. That's why I say the fucking hypocrites. I hope she gets in, but the reason they're letting her in isn't the reason I think she should be.
Speaker 3:Yeah more sentimental and yeah, yeah, yeah, don't, don't forget, this whole rock and roll hall of fame really is the antithesis of what rock and roll supposed to be too. That's why I don't like rock and roll hall of fame. It's glitzy.
Speaker 6:It's an institution, yeah it's become an institution.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think this one's a no brainer, Ozzie. Why hasn't he been in yet? Why is why isn't taking this long? Are we all in agreement with that? Yeah?
Speaker 3:I say yes because he was in with Sabbath, but his solo career was more of an influence.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, bigger than Sabbath. Bigger than Sabbath. I guess it was to a guy that had a very religious father, born again father.
Speaker 3:Those album covers and that music, when and when you really look at the lyrics, they're not very evil, they're very positive lyrics. But except for no more tears.
Speaker 1:That's a pretty fucking evil song. He's no more tears. That's a pretty fucking evil song. That's a shampoo.
Speaker 6:He's no more tears. Johnson's no more tears, baby shampoo, but he keeps delivering.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's a whole grunge era. He was delivering good music. He never stopped.
Speaker 1:You know, nope, the blizzard was on the driving force behind that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she's a polarizing figure because a lot of people hate her by. I say when he was laying in that hotel room drinking and doing coke he could have died. She came in and said get up, let's do this she went against her father to get against her father.
Speaker 1:He said don't go near him, that's the kiss of death and I'll disown you. And she said good, yeah, she built an empire around him.
Speaker 2:Blizzard.
Speaker 3:Aussie and.
Speaker 1:Keith, only real rock stars. Well, you can't say well, liam Gallagher is a fucking rock star, that motherfuckers. He's one of the last rock stars of a generation. Liam Gallagher, he's a true rock star.
Speaker 6:Blizzard of Oz was a hugely influential yeah. I'm the public and I'm musicians. Yeah, diary attributed a lot at the Randy Rhodes, of course, but yeah, he was consistent throughout. What a shitty sounding record that is. Yeah, it's a horrible you produced a sounding record?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you know.
Speaker 3:You guys, road driven music kids don't care.
Speaker 3:Do you guys remember when Sharon re-released those first two albums and re-recorded the drums in the bass so she didn't have to play Lee Kerslake and Bob Daze Lee royalties because the way the albums were done was they all got an equal share. So she wanted more money for Aussie. So she actually had the two guys that were with Aussie at the time, so you would put on crazy train and you could hear it right away. It was totally different. That was a sin, that was a disaster. And Lee Kerslake on his deathbed, all he wanted he said he was saying I just want my gold record. He's, I'm not. Still want tons of money. I think six months before he died they relented. They gave him his gold record because he was a big part of that first album. Yeah, yeah good story.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this next one, I think, is a no brainer. If any of these women are going to be in the Rockwell Hall of Fame, the same Chade has to be in the Rockwell Hall of Fame. She fucking has to be. If Cheryl Crowe is in, chade needs to be in the Rockwell Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3:Mark, you know I have a problem with Chade. I love her. She's lucky. She puts out an album every 10 years, tours and makes millions of dollars. It's like I joke with Tom about this. She does kind of the same song over and over again.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna go back on. I said on our show. I said on Music Relish. I said no, I'm gonna say squeakin', let her squeak in. I just don't see she was popular.
Speaker 1:Go watch some of her live. Go watch some of her live. She's on YouTube, she doesn't. It's not.
Speaker 3:She is not recycling anything that your brother just said it right Sunday for a record deal. She made the best record deal. She was so smart, she was brilliant. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she was brilliant. Okay, I go with yes.
Speaker 6:Lou. Based upon what I know from music I know two hit songs I'm gonna say no. I'm not saying she's not great, but I don't know. I've not heard much about her. I don't think she's been in the subconscious of a whole lot of music, more of a niche artist, great voice, great presence. But based upon what I know, I say no.
Speaker 1:All right, I can't, can't argue with you, niche artist.
Speaker 6:I don't know about that. I mean, as far as she might tour worldwide, I don't think. I think she's a fan thing Right now. But I said, but I don't. I'm not fully comprehensive on her music as a whole either. So that's why I say what I said, and she's definitely still to this day not fucking hard to look at.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's not that. That woman is aging gracefully, she's still fucking rocking, yeah, living a good life, yeah, and you know what? She took that that high forehead look to like another level because she does her hairline it's kind of set back right, yeah, and she just owned that. But she's so Beautiful, yeah, so beautiful from like that doesn't even. That's almost so. There's like Lauren Hutton always said there's no reason for me to be beautiful. My eyes are off center, I get a gap in my teeth, my nose is like Lauren and but if you looked at her, she's. But it works, it just worked. Yeah, you know, yeah, and Perry Dennis says she's big in Belgium.
Speaker 6:So citizen dick.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 6:Okay.
Speaker 3:Last but not least. A tribe called quest mark for the same reason that, eric being Rocky, I think they were original, they were a different sound of hip hop. So I say yes, and the reason I say it is one of these two are going to get in. So I put yes. You know if, if Eric beat in, get in, I'd be awesome, sucks, but if a tribe called quest got in, I'd be okay, that's good. So yes, for me.
Speaker 1:Tribe called quest ground breakers, absolute ground breakers. They've been on the list a couple times every year now. So I think this is their third, their third go around. I mean, I'll say, I'll say yes, I think I think they're going to get in again. One of those two was going to get in. It would probably be a tribe called quest before it would be Eric being Rocky, you think, because this is their third go around at this point. So I think you know they'll probably get in mark. What was the something theory? What was the first album?
Speaker 3:Oh Jesus, we produced it. A CPI, in hell's tail.
Speaker 1:We did the yeah, the something theory. Can't remember fucking groundbreaking hip hop album? Yes, you know they, they. They definitely came from a whole different angle and Q tip has that like rock him. They got unique styles, unique voices.
Speaker 1:So I low end, low end theory. The low end theory, yeah it's. It's a that's a groundbreaking album. Yeah. So I'll say, because of this is their third go around, that they, they'll get in. I think this year is going to be a real fucking cornucopia of music getting in, yeah, and so with that I'll say yeah.
Speaker 6:I have heard some of this stuff and I think it's pretty cool smooth yeah, it is, and but so, based upon that, I'll throw it to you guys to say you can vote for me because I don't know company, but I have heard some, several things that there was pretty cool as far as their overall impact. I'm, I'm the climate, think they're going to get in. My instinct tell me they're going to get in.
Speaker 3:I would say. I would say that we would say yes for you only because the stuff you liked it justifies why they should get in, because you know you're not generally the biggest hip hop fan, when you see like an artist, you know, but I'm just I'm saying no, but the thing is, they were good at what they do, yeah they're good at what they do, you know yeah songs like Benita Applebum.
Speaker 1:You gotta put me on Benita.
Speaker 3:Applebum.
Speaker 1:Benita, benita, benita, or I left my wallet in El Segundo. I left my wallet in El Segundo. I gotta get it, gots, gots to get it. I left my wallet in El Segundo. It's just smooth. It was totally different from what everybody else was doing well, that's probably why it caught my ear at least to me anyway, very, very different, very unique style so, based upon your recommendation, I said I something tells me.
Speaker 6:I said, if you just asked me if I thought they would get in, you know, but so yeah, I'll say yes based upon that alright, alright, so that's it.
Speaker 1:That's what we got. We'll find out on what. When will it? When will they do the?
Speaker 3:ceremony doesn't say can I just add something now? Yeah, this is kind of. You know that a lot of times the first time around they don't get in. So 10 of the 15 nominees are on the bell for the first time. Yeah, mariah Carey, cher Farner, peter Frampton cool in the gang Lenny Kravitz, oasis, shanae Doe, connor, ozzie Osborne and Sade.
Speaker 1:Eric Shade Shade.
Speaker 3:Eric being rock him also. Uh no, they enlist them as being first time I'm on the rock and roll hall of fame. Wow, okay, looks like alright, so they must have been yeah.
Speaker 6:I think we're gonna get in.
Speaker 1:She'll get in she's gotta get in. I can mega star, mega star uh, all right, christmas.
Speaker 6:She's like Andy.
Speaker 1:She's like a female Andy Williams now yeah yeah, all right, we're coming up on the two hour mark. Do we want to do sci-fi? You want to do some sci-fi movies?
Speaker 6:or do we just want to?
Speaker 1:well, you know what I got, that you make the call, we can maybe do the movies next week you call, you call.
Speaker 6:You know it was hard to pick three uh three. What three sci-fi movies?
Speaker 1:it was hard to pick well, I mean, this is gonna be so next week we'll, we'll, we'll pick it up with the sci-fi movies. Uh, we'll decide. You know what we want to do. You know what I want to do next week, let's do um albums that turn 40 this year for you okay, albums that turn 40 next year, this year, so, and then, uh, then we'll take, we'll do sci-fi movies, and then we'll just kind of take it from there.
Speaker 1:But it's time for let me pull this up over here. All right, you make the call movie edition so we're kind of crossing over into movies. All right, mark, yeah, you make the call Apocalypse now, or platoon, oh, Fuck you.
Speaker 3:It's a cultural icon. I'm gonna go with apocalypse now, even though it's not the most authentic. Can never stop watching it.
Speaker 6:All right, lou, apocalypse now, no question.
Speaker 1:I gotta go with apocalypse now. Just so many great fucking scenes, absolutely from the. Robert, robert Duvall to the fucking. I watched now walk along In the Susan Q.
Speaker 6:Frederick forest alone. Yeah, this chef, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 6:The. With a cast alone, I mean Robert Duvall Martin.
Speaker 1:Harrison Ford and a cameo.
Speaker 6:Yeah and the story behind, making it the story behind. You ever see the documentary.
Speaker 3:I made it this, that scene where, where the Coppola is on the phone, right, I have a nervous breakdown because Brando's like you know. He's saying I gave you a million dollars, you're not gonna come.
Speaker 1:He's not coming like he just drove, yeah, saying All right, you make the call Lou 80s Robert De Niro movies version. I believe one of them, both in the 80s, maybe not well, robert De Niro movie versions. Okay, you make the call raging bull or taxi driver. Oh, Taxi with 70s.
Speaker 6:Yeah, they're both Taxi bones in the 80s, because it got voted one of the great it was 90 was. It was a movie of 1980, best picture 1980, but even stuff that's a hard call, that's a real hard call. But I'm going taxi driver because this is so much shit it was, that was so shocking and so that was groundbreaking. That was some, that was some wild stuff. You know raging bulls, a classic Hollywood cinema, amazing movie, I mean. But I think I like the street level Scorsese to kind of thing. You know the good fellow, so I'll lean toward I I think Raging bulls, maybe Technically a better moving, better picture. I'm leaning to a taxi driver. Just because it was. It's like more iconic to me.
Speaker 5:Mark, yeah, close you little going with what he called you a little piece of chicken.
Speaker 3:I'm going with raging bull only because that was my introduction to Robert De Niro. I was 11 years old when it came out and Circus magazine Two-page review of the movie in which they explained what he did to do the role, gaining all that weight and he was like the first actor that I said, holy shit, what he did for that role and it was one I think was a Joe Pesci's first movie, but Joe Pesci's in it- I was first yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so now I'm gonna, I'm gonna go with raging ball, but both are great. You're even tired, yeah.
Speaker 1:You fuck my wife. You fuck my wife no what no?
Speaker 3:my wife no, no. What are?
Speaker 1:you talking about? You fuck my wife. What the fuck? You fuck my wife. Bring it over Now, tell you. I'm gonna go with raging bull. Kathy Moriati was fucking a hot number back then, man, yes, she was. Kathy Moriati was hot in that movie she was the neighbors with a with a curtain.
Speaker 1:Balushi yeah yeah, I, I gotta go with with raging bull taxi drive. It is a very intense Just so is raging bull Mm-hmm I and it's again. There's no wrong answers here, but I gotta go with With yeah, I gotta go raging bull. All my brother said taxi drive ahead, more impact. You talking to me? I think that.
Speaker 6:Travis Pickle character.
Speaker 1:He created it exists today, amazing yeah.
Speaker 6:Oh yeah, it's. It was scary. I mean, he was a scary actor. I'm he was scary man.
Speaker 1:So Scorsese love doing like he did, like mean streets and he, he was good at that gritty new level, right yeah yeah, no, raging bull is the greatest fucking boxing movie, let alone one of the greatest sports movies. I'm good.
Speaker 6:Who played sugar right in that I didn't go down right.
Speaker 1:It was Johnny Barnes, okay.
Speaker 6:Johnny Barnes played sugar. Right those scenes, I mean the scenes with the bloodness spit.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 6:I guess I think technically it's a better movie. Well, yeah, I mean it's an epic classic Hollywood yeah, but I do like that Level of taxi driver. That was just. You know more almost it's almost film war in it's a you know, you know what it's like. There's no wrong answer. I mean it's just yeah, no wrong, that's okay.
Speaker 3:Scorsese has that street level, like, like you know, you go Godfather or goodfellows? It's hard to say because good Godfather's more poetic and operatic goodfellows is just you know.
Speaker 1:You know why he had it? Because he's fucking. He's a music fan. Yes, I mean made movies to the music in his head.
Speaker 6:Yeah, the late great Robbie Robertson did the music to region yeah yeah, so all right.
Speaker 1:Next one, sci-fi. This is sci-fi. Okay, the Shalton Heston edition. So mark you make the call. Okay, shalton Heston edition, the edition plenty of the apes, or Omega man, oh.
Speaker 3:That to me that's not even planet of the apes, I Don't downplay a mega man.
Speaker 1:He was no tire movie. He was a tire movie.
Speaker 3:But planet of the apes. What an original story, classic. And I still remember the first time I saw it, the 430 movie on Channel 7. Remember those? Lou came on from school. In the 430 they have a movie and I watched it to the end. And I see Statue of Liberty and I'm like holy shit, they're on a twist, plot twists in the history.
Speaker 1:Yeah, big head, todd the Westbrook. It's a good night, gentlemen. He'll be. I thought finish. Yeah, yeah, hope you're good. Yeah, the best part of that is good. Oh, spot, is those three words. Good night, gentlemen. Good, I Say Lou. Planet of the apes or Omega man like you said, don't downplay Omega man.
Speaker 6:I'm such a planet the apes fan, I'm just it's. I'm such a freak. For you know, I, even forgiving the fact that you know, the first time Charlton hasn't here's I'm speaking English. She didn't make the connection. You know Planet where apes are speaking English you know it's like.
Speaker 6:You know that movies ask you to suspend your belief at points, and that's one thing they had to do, that there's no way, otherwise the apes would speak in a foreign language or a language, and so the movie wouldn't work. But you know, yeah, that's the license, you have to take that aside. But the Omega man stuff, you know all those movies, omega man, what was the other one he did?
Speaker 6:And that same soiling green, soiling green movies are very pertinent, socially very pertinent. So I'm playing the apes, it was about it. You know it was a societal thing, but just the fact that as a kid I love, I just love those movies, even the shitty ones.
Speaker 1:So I say no, wait, wait, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. There was no shitty planet. Good, but I mean battle, for the plans could have been someone put together faster than us, but you still went to see him. You still fucking enjoyed him. Oh, yeah, you didn't realize until you were older. That's the thing now. Yeah, you didn't realize see you're older how kind of cheaply there, a quick, they were put together. Oh yeah capitalized on the planet of the apes thing. It was fucking great. Saturday morning cartoon.
Speaker 6:Yeah, yeah with the fucking pretty intense opening.
Speaker 1:Like go on YouTube and see oh yeah, Planet of the apes cartoon and watch the opening sequence of that. That was a pretty intense fucking cartoon.
Speaker 3:So and I gotta say the latest reboots are fantastic. I love them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they did a job with. Yeah, they did a. Cgi has to be fucking top-notch with that.
Speaker 6:Oh yeah, it is so and the stories are good. Yeah, the 2001 remake the Tim Burton one. You know I was disappointed in the. That was sucked that.
Speaker 1:What a disaster it could be. That's like Ghostbusters 2016 right, fucking doesn't even belong in the in the.
Speaker 6:It's like the Batman Robin of the thing I didn't hate it.
Speaker 3:The problem is it got boring it kind of like nothing.
Speaker 6:Yeah, it didn't happen. It could have been such a better movie, fuckin doctor zero.
Speaker 1:Whatever name was, looked like Michael Jackson, so don't fuck. Yeah, she looked too huge.
Speaker 6:The rest of the makeup the Rick Baker makeup off. It was really quite good.
Speaker 1:Play the apes gets us all worked up, yet I'm gonna say help.
Speaker 3:Ellen Abana Carter made apes look sexy. I'm sorry.
Speaker 6:You know she had that haircut, though what was with the haircut?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6:Yeah, so Tim.
Speaker 1:I'm just looking at Jennifer Aniston. Tim Roth was the best part of that remake. Yeah, tim Burton yes, he was, yeah, he was the best body played a really good evil, fucking.
Speaker 3:How, how about at the end? When he's trapped in that room. Yeah, the smoke's going everywhere, and then you see him sitting there scared.
Speaker 6:Yeah, mark Goldberg's totally sucked at that horrible movie. Fucking he can act he tried.
Speaker 1:You know Tim Burton fucked that up. He tried to have the equivalent of the of the Statue of Liberty by having the Lincoln monument and like there's no. But what are you?
Speaker 3:doing? Did they mean I never got it? Did that mean they just tore the? They redid the statue? No, that's right.
Speaker 6:Apparently. Apparently, his character must have found a way to get that other ship going again. And somehow make it back before, like he did a time warp Well before Mark Wahlberg made it back whatever time from he was in.
Speaker 1:You know Well that, that that movie to me is like Godfather 3. I'll never see it twice. I'll never see it twice. Never was so fucking disappointing and badly made. A bummer. Yeah, all right, I'm gonna say plenty of the apes. Omega man though, like I said, don't look past that. He was the whole movie. Yeah, like everything senator, and that's not easy to carry a movie by yourself. Yeah, because he was by himself. Every scene, except for when the the the black chick shows up with the fucking eyes and In the naturals.
Speaker 6:You got there's a 70 movie man 71 or something is 71.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so don't you know? You got to go back and watch Omega man and the symbolism in it at the end, when he you know, when he fucking dies he's got his arms like on the fountain crucified yeah.
Speaker 6:Yeah, yeah, those moves that were the worth revisiting. You know he, charlton has, was on a sci-fi role there. He had planned the apes in 68. Yeah, neitha plan the apes in 70, omega man. And so in the green he was on that, this topian role.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was showing this. He was a great. He was a great actor. Let's get into our 80s horror movies, 80s vampire movies. To be more Pacific, I'll start this one off. You make the call lost boys or Fright night. Now see, fright Night was a fucking really good movie, man. Do you remember it, lou?
Speaker 6:I didn't see Friday oh, with the vampire what.
Speaker 1:No, I didn't oh you gotta watch, right, I don't know what you fucking vampire classic.
Speaker 6:I never start ghostbusters either. The original to this day have that scene ghostbusters.
Speaker 1:Well, well, I've never seen a Rambo movie my entire life, so really don't know you. The first one I've seen enough bits and pieces of it together.
Speaker 1:No, no surprises I'm gonna have to say I Think I Want to say lost boys. But I'm gonna go a fright night. Fright night was such a Different fucking that what it was, just such a different movie. My brother just said fright night for the humor, because it really is kind of a unique, unique vampire movie and the way it was built up and it got fucking serious. Like you thought it was gonna be this light-hearted but it got fucking crazy in there. So I'm gonna go with fright night mark.
Speaker 3:Lost boys was the cool movie it was good, though it was good.
Speaker 1:There's a twist in that one too, yeah.
Speaker 3:You're eating maggots, michael. It's a.
Speaker 5:Chinese food.
Speaker 3:But Fright Night had in McDowell. It's a humor, your brother's right.
Speaker 6:Yeah, cornelius was in was in Fright Night.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's right yeah and it had that Kind of like American where we'll from London when the guy turns into, yeah, the vampire. You see that was a great fact. We see the skin expanding, yeah, so I gotta go and.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna watch that. I need to watch that again. Yeah, Lou.
Speaker 6:All right. So, lou, then we'll. Well, I give, I give lost boys. The last boys was also the first movie I ever rented on VHS. Ah, there you go. I thought. I thought it was great, but I want to see Fright Night though.
Speaker 1:All right, lou, you make the call 80s sci-fi edition Blade Runner or alien Alien, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6:For what it's intensity and its intensity. I saw that in the theater right out of high school. I just graduated high school and that movie came out. My brother and sister and I went. I was. It was tense the whole time, if not just for the scene. First scene when they're the xenomorph rips out of John Hertz Belly. I mean the shock of that and then we're saying that song like in space balls oh my little ragtime doll. But uh, yeah, I like Blade Runner, like the atmosphere of it. I think it's a great movie. But I do think as far as riveting and intensity I go with alien.
Speaker 1:I want to interrupt for one second planning. The APs Nova was fucking fire. See, dude, I would spend fucking eternity on a planet full of apes with her. She didn't speak.
Speaker 6:She was gorgeous.
Speaker 1:It's on the Harrison.
Speaker 6:Yeah, oh yeah. Yeah, she was like a young adolescent fantasy.
Speaker 1:She was hot, yeah, all right. So Lou says alien mark.
Speaker 3:The porcupine tree fan in me that likes everything dark would probably say Blade Runner, because that is a bleak landscape. It was the first movie where it depicted the future is not so nice, but the one thing that the movie that that brought it down for me was Harrison Ford's narration. I have the version without the narration.
Speaker 1:The direct is gone. The direct is gone.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So it was great though it was. But alien was the first science fiction movie. That was also a horror movie. You can't top that. It scared the shit out of me. Many science fiction movies don't scare you. Iphobia of being on that ship and I didn't see it took years later, Lou, I didn't see it, but the scene where the alien popped out must have been like just you know it was a shock.
Speaker 6:It was a shock, you know, a great special effects. It was 1979. It was very realistic, right, right.
Speaker 3:So I got it, I'm going.
Speaker 1:Funny thing is a lot of these movies Lou and I saw in the movie there yeah, I can't think of one that I saw so far, just on, you know when it came out and planet planet, the planets.
Speaker 6:I had to stand there. My mother wouldn't let my mother wouldn't let me watch it when we go to the movies. I saw that. I saw that on television.
Speaker 1:All right, but still so. The most intense five minutes it's like like seven minutes I think of in movie history, I would think, or it's up there, it's debatable is the last, like seven minutes of aliens. Part two yes, right, so fucking intense, intense, intense as it gets Right. Alien great movie. But Blade Runner was just the way it was filmed. It was just so fucking the cinematography in it, the way the story stayed consistent, it was plotting, it's very plotting and there was twists along the way and it was so consistent and unique in its own realm of movies.
Speaker 1:I think In both versions the one with the narration and without the narration you could feel the different. It's a different feel, it's a different feel, but they're both great. I got to go with Blade Runner. I just think it was so ahead of its time in the way it was done. Like my brother just said, movies that are quotable make the cut Right. So I have to go. I have to go. Blade Runner, alien, like you said, my great horror movie, great sci-fi, horror movie combination, but sci, pure sci-fi, it's. That's a junkies movie. A sci-fi junkies movie To me is Blade Runner.
Speaker 6:Does Harrison Ford ever find out whether he's a replicant or not? Because that's his question at the end.
Speaker 1:I wasn't there, the wasn't there, this fucking remake.
Speaker 6:I didn't see this. I didn't see this.
Speaker 3:I was just going to tell you, I loved it, I fucking loved it, the 2024.
Speaker 1:The second one, the remake.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I thought it was OK. I thought it was OK.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like I didn't think Ryan Gosling would be good in it, but he was a lot better than I thought, so yeah.
Speaker 6:So he's not a replicant.
Speaker 1:I don't think he was no. No, it's a good question. I can't really, but I don't. I don't remember it being like, oh shit, they leaned you in that direction, yeah.
Speaker 3:All right, lou Lou, yeah. Are you a replicant or a replicant? What movie is that from Spaceballs? Once Upon a Time in Mexico. Are you a Mexican or a Mexican? Oh, you got to see Once Upon a Time in.
Speaker 6:Mexico.
Speaker 3:You know, I need to put the fake arm on our podcast.
Speaker 6:Every time I mention Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, I keep saying America.
Speaker 1:Ah, yeah.
Speaker 6:Totally.
Speaker 1:Totally different movie yeah. Great movie Another good movie. Yeah, do you know that Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, the main character of Leonardo DiCaprio I was telling my brother this the other day Leonardo DiCaprio in his stuntman was based on Kurt Russell in his stuntman?
Speaker 6:Yeah Well, I heard there's other composites too, but that was definitely one.
Speaker 1:That was I think that, and there's. So I was again telling my brother this the other day. He's Quentin Tarantino. Has this thing about don't go off script, don't ad-lib Trust the script Trust. It Doesn't like it at all. So there's a scene where Leonardo DiCaprio's getting out of that Cadillac and his confidence is down and Brad Pitt his stunt double right. Just this guy said this to Kurt Russell and he goes. Hey, remember you're. I forget his name. It was Rick Dalton. Yeah, he goes you're.
Speaker 1:Rick fucking Dalton. That's that actually happened. You're, you're, kurt fucking Russell.
Speaker 3:That's when he's dropping them off at the studio. He's hung over his shit.
Speaker 1:He's put in the movie.
Speaker 3:I see.
Speaker 1:Yeah. And also another ad-lib was when Leonardo DiCaprio goes into the trailer and he fucked the lines up.
Speaker 3:He was fucking stupid.
Speaker 1:He flipped, that was all ad-lib and he starts the stutter. That's what you first realized I think there's a stutter thing going on.
Speaker 6:You hear him stammering, though, when he meets the movie producer.
Speaker 1:He does, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6:He's ready for his sentence to kill himself if he doesn't get his lines right. Yeah, I like Brad Pitt's line Don't cry in front of the Mexicans. Yeah, he gives him his sunglasses, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Listen, I will recommend, if you guys are book readers, read Quentin Tarantino's novelization of the movie, because he flushes out a lot of those storylines.
Speaker 1:So it's interesting that the book came out naff to the movie. That's what's interesting about that.
Speaker 3:So what's his name? The Sun guy. There was this big question in the movie Did he kill his wife or was it an accident? Well, that book devotes a lot to that.
Speaker 6:It's an excellent book. The movie leads you to believe that he did. He shot it with a spear gun. Only, christopher.
Speaker 1:Walken knows if Natalie Wood was murdered.
Speaker 6:Yeah, well, she mentions my sister Natalie in that scene. My sister Natalie was right, you're a loser, he's a loser, yeah All right.
Speaker 1:Moving on, did we get to a Blade Runner alien? We all.
Speaker 6:Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this one's interesting. I think I know the answer to it though 80s famous we'll say Bratt Packers type movie the Outsiders, Mark. I'll start with you. The Outsiders, or Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3:Oh, Lou knows what I'm going to say Hands down Breakfast Club. I know every line in that fucking movie.
Speaker 1:You know, claire, I get to throw in the softball on these every once in a while.
Speaker 3:Peanut butter and jelly with the crust cut off Lou.
Speaker 1:Outsiders there you go.
Speaker 6:Yeah, it was a good movie. Yep, it was a good movie. Great book. That was one of my books in high school too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that you read a lot, I see him.
Speaker 6:Cool story. Yeah, I grew up in a 10-hour-as-a-kid was a greaser town. I was in a greaser town.
Speaker 1:There you go. I got to go with, I think, breakfast Club. I think I'll go with Breakfast Club just because of the you could. It was very relatable, it was very relatable yeah, they had every stereotypical high school kid. It was brilliantly done by what's his name, john Hughes. John Hughes, yeah, he picked all the right funny actors for the right parts, although originally, what's her name? Molly Ringwald was supposed to be the Alice. Sheedy's character and she's like no, I'm more like Claire.
Speaker 1:So they kind of had to work that out, and so Alice Sheedy was like that worked out great, because I'm exactly like that.
Speaker 3:That's what she said. You know what's funny? I was exactly like that girl A lot of acting.
Speaker 1:So she goes. I didn't really have to act, but she did have a lot of emotions about it too during the filming. Yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 3:That movie came out a year after I graduated high school and I looked at it and I went holy shit, it is Pasquak Valley High School in Hillsdale, new Jersey, and the two people I would have hung out with I actually got along with like Anthony Michael Hall's character the geek I actually hung out with them in school and Alice Sheedy's character Bender Everyone called me Bender.
Speaker 1:I would never hang out with that guy. He was you know.
Speaker 3:The burnouts beat me up even though I had long hair because I didn't do drugs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I drank, I could blend with all. I just had that ability to. Just I could blend with all of them. I didn't really have a particular style or group or something to hang out. I was very good at mixing and matching. All right, here we go. 80s kind of crazy adventure movie time. Lou, you make the call ET or Goonies.
Speaker 6:I've never seen ET.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 6:No, no, no, I did, I did, I did. I eventually saw it. I saw it so late. Goonies what do I remember from the Goonies? Not much. There's a lame call I'm going ET. You know, I didn't really care about it. I saw the Goonies years later. I just don't remember anything. I remember some weird scene in a basement with water, am I wrong? Oh God, I mean.
Speaker 3:Mark, oh, no contest, goonies was fun. It was just one of those. I think Spielberg did that movie, did they they?
Speaker 1:both did A lot of fun.
Speaker 3:They go out, they go into a basement, then they go into a cave. I love that whole thing and the guys sing in the opera. Oh, so you know. And then when I got, when I visit my sister lived in Oregon it's Oregon, not Oregon and she took me to the beach and she said look out there, what do you see? And you see those big rocks in the ocean that are in the movie. We went to the town where they film those scenes. That's just for me more. And ET was great in a classic sense, but Goonies was just good fun and Josh Brolin as a teenager.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I wrote.
Speaker 3:OK.
Speaker 1:I got to go with ET. I just think ET was, it was fucking epic, nothing like it had ever been made before it was. It was just had that unique style that it was the, it was the OK. So you had close encounters of the third kind, right, and that you saw the aliens at the end and it was kind of you know a thing, but see it from a kid's perspective and just the whole you know ET's dying and it kind of had you on that roller coaster. It's a Spielberg movie. It was a Spielberg. It was Spielberg at his best. You know, he was in his prime. Let's put it that way he was in his prime.
Speaker 3:You know what I liked about that movie that was one of his movies where it took place in Lou you would like subdivisions, right, Rush it took place in a new community. Everyone had those new houses. It was kind of like that movie, the Gate, that horror movie where they're all in this new community, yeah, whereas Goonies was in an old town, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, let's go with heavy, heavy movie here. Both of them, lou. You make the call Schindler's List or Shawshank Redemption.
Speaker 6:I didn't see Schindler's List.
Speaker 1:What the fuck Lou.
Speaker 6:I know, I know I'm not doing movies anymore. Lou just doesn't watch fucking movie. He's kind of hitting us. Yeah Jesus, that was fucking epic, I know.
Speaker 1:All right, well, mark.
Speaker 6:I love Schindler's List.
Speaker 1:It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Ok, by proxy, oh, just by default. He has to say Shawshank Redemption by default.
Speaker 6:Because I saw it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I mean, mark.
Speaker 3:I got to go with Schindler's List and Epic. The interplay between the two characters, the two main guys I'm losing my mind. I got to Schmidis, ben Kingsley and Jesus Well, who was Schindler? Who played Oscar Schindler?
Speaker 6:The Reef Fines no.
Speaker 3:No, I will get you.
Speaker 6:I will find you Liam.
Speaker 3:Liam, the interplay between them, the story, knowing the backstory, knowing that this happened, and the black and white. You know the image started in color. Then I went back and it was in black and white and it didn't overplay the horrors, like it just did everything the right way it does it's. I can't watch it a lot because it puts such a mood on me and but, yeah, definitely Schindler's List, one of the best movies ever made in the history of movies. Lou, watch it, great movie.
Speaker 6:Great movie, I think.
Speaker 1:where is it on the like the you find the top of the top of the top of the top of the top of the top of the movies yeah, probably yeah. Yeah, I think I've seen, I think I won every Academy Award that year. Yeah, um, yeah. But I have to say entertainment value. Going to the movies, shawshank Redemption was just a great fucking story. Just a great story. You know Schindler's List was historical, but Shawshank Redemption was a great story, you know.
Speaker 3:Stephen King Stephen King story.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just think entertainment value and it's a big fucking movie. It's definitely on a lot of people's top 50. That's got legs. Yeah, you know it was named Timothy Hutton, and uh no no, Timothy.
Speaker 3:Timothy Hutton with the big forehead, Tim Robbins. Yeah, Tim Robbins and the great one.
Speaker 1:What's that? Yeah, michael Flock Duncan. But also what's his name? The black guy with the greatest voice, morgan Freeman. Morgan Freeman.
Speaker 3:There you go In his the scene, the scene where they're on the roof and you know they've been in prison and they're working and they get a beer. Didn't that scene get you like they got a beer, like you haven't had a?
Speaker 1:beer what Tim Robbins decides. You know what? Fuck it. I'm just going to lock myself in the warden's office and play music to the whole prison. You know, put his feet up on the. He knew he was fucked. He knew he was fucked. Just said I don't give a fuck. It played the fucking music and everybody stops in the yard, everybody faces the music. You know, that was just a great fucking scene. Like what the fuck is this? You know, these guys haven't heard music in Some of them like decades.
Speaker 3:You know in a strange way, his character in that kind of reminded me of the character in Mystic River, where you knew he was getting fucked.
Speaker 6:He knew right, and you?
Speaker 3:knew his time was coming and wasn't it.
Speaker 6:James Whitmore played the old guy that didn't want to leave prison. Yeah, and what he was going to do? Yeah, an interesting dilemma, because you know you think you're, you can't think about his freedom, but he'd been there so long he was afraid to leave. Well, you become institutionalized.
Speaker 1:Well, he ended up killing himself too. Yeah, you become institutionalized. Yeah, you know nothing else. Yeah, you know life has passed you by on the outside. You're walking into the Twilight Zone, right, you know? All right, let's see Academy Award winners. Lou, you make the call. Saving Private Ryan or Forrest Gump.
Speaker 6:Five years ago I would have said Forest Gump, and I would say Save your Private Life. It's a heavy movie, it's a classic Hollywood epic. You know, yeah, tom Hanks epic. Yeah, I do think, the realism of it. I had some friends whose fathers were in the Battle of Bulls and said the only thing not realistic was there wasn't that much blood in the water. Everything else was very real and that's just horrible. Yeah, I think that's funny, you know.
Speaker 6:It's weird, though when I saw that in the movies I went by myself and I got a seat and once all that first 20 minutes went over, I looked over. It was a dude. I went to high school. We hadn't seen each other forever. It was Al Bergoglio. I'm like Al Loom. We just said, yeah, he's like huh. So we have that initial onslaught from the landing on the beach. You know, we just watched the rest of the movie and but I thought just so much of the tension, the horrors of war and the guys struggling with the German soldier with the knife basically saying you don't have to do this. I mean just the whole, the realism of it, you know. So, yeah, I'll say, say the problem, mark.
Speaker 3:I got to go with Private Ryan because I saw it in the theater and I think the first panic attack I had in my life was that opening 20 minutes. Because I've never been in the military, it was probably to me the most realistic depiction of the horrors of that suicidal mission that they were sent to do Fishing a battle and I felt like I was in the theater and I said I'm ripping my hands and I said I got to get out of here, but I stayed.
Speaker 3:In retrospect the rest of the movie was almost lighthearted after that, because Tom Hanks always comes in and makes everything you know, but also the scene where the doctor of their unit dies.
Speaker 3:You know when they're shot Genevieve Rabisi yeah, for that reason alone, I mean, I love both movies, but that movie to me. If you can make a movie that and I have not been in a war, so I don't know but if you can make a movie that shows a realistic depiction of war and somehow remains entertaining, because really, let's face it, if you made a movie that showed what it's like to be in war, nobody would want to see it, right, I mean, so you got to make it entertaining and they did it in that movie. It is a throwback in some ways to the old movies where it was big budget you know it's an epic had a town being destroyed, you know, that's where Steven Spielberg is great, you know he does that. But yeah, I think that movie. And when Memorial Day comes around and they show these movies that are not really respectful to the military, that's the one movie when they show it to me. Show that movie, you know.
Speaker 3:But yeah, I'm going to go with saving Private Ryan and the backstory. Saving Private Ryan, he was the last one you know.
Speaker 1:so I'm going to say that saving Private Ryan has something for us, Come doesn't have Tom Seismore.
Speaker 6:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I love him. This is great. I loved him.
Speaker 6:He was like I'm going to shoot Edward Burns because I'm going to shoot you because I don't like you.
Speaker 1:He was such a fucking talented, fucking troubled guy. But in that twist, when Matt Damon is Ryan, he's Private Ryan and he was kind of hot at the time Like no one knew he was, like he popped up out of nowhere. It's like Matt Damon, you know. So, yeah, I have to go with saving Private Ryan. Forest Gump is what it is, you know. Great story, no doubt about it. Very well put together, well told. Tom Hanks, masterclass in acting. Yeah, but I'm going to go with that.
Speaker 3:By the way, two great cameos in that movie Paul Geomata and Ted Danson.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 6:Last but not least saving Private Ryan. My fantasy is go to an actual tourist baseball game and sing the national anthem, like the German prisoner was doing.
Speaker 1:There you go.
Speaker 6:That's that, that's a bucket list.
Speaker 1:Oh, so can you see, that's a bucket list.
Speaker 3:All right.
Speaker 1:Last but not least we're going to go with campy horror movies. Okay, mark, you make the call. Tales from the dock side or the Twilight Zone, full stories each movie.
Speaker 3:Love the Twilight Zone, but tales from the dark side entertain me more. I'm going to go with tales from the dark side.
Speaker 1:Did you see tales from the dock side? No, I did not. I didn't think you did.
Speaker 6:I fucking knew it, I fucking knew it, I did. Here we go again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, default. Yeah, by default, I'm going to say, yeah, tales from the dock side was more entertaining. The Twilight Zone, though, when it came out I mean that beginning in the end with Dan Acker right, hey, you want to see something really scary? Yeah, yeah, and he's with Albert Brooks. He picks him up, he's the hitchhiker and he turns into that fucking monster.
Speaker 6:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then at the very end, when he's in the ambulance, right and they're driving and bad moon on the rise, it comes on and Dan Acker right yeah, turns and peeks and looks at the camera Like you know it's coming. No, no.
Speaker 6:But that was.
Speaker 1:They were good movies, though they were both. Both were good for what they are.
Speaker 3:What made Twilight Zone dark was knowing that.
Speaker 6:Big Morrow died, kids died and there's two children.
Speaker 1:Yeah, kids died, yeah yeah. But Tales from the Dockside was more entertaining, I think.
Speaker 6:I thought Tales of the Dock. I thought it was a TV show. Was there a TV?
Speaker 1:show it was, but they made movies out of them too.
Speaker 6:Oh, okay, so it was a TV show first. Yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, gentlemen, that's it. Let's get into this day of music, let's move it right along. Two and a half hours over two and a half hours, let's see. On this day of 2017, David Bowie dominated the 2017 Brit Awards. He was awarded Best British Male and Best British Album for his mournful swan song, Blockstar. Yeah, you know what he was going to get. You know he was getting that anyways.
Speaker 1:Oh, that album was fucking great as well as honoring Bowie, the Brits paid tribute to George Michael, who died on Christmas 2016. Ah, let me see. On this day of 2016,. Adele won four prizes, including Best British Female Solo Artist. Best Album of the Year. Coldplay won Best British Group, making them the most successful band in the ceremony's history.
Speaker 3:Can't wait for the reunion.
Speaker 1:The show also featured an emotional tribute to David Bowie, led by Andy Lennox and his friend Gary Oldman.
Speaker 1:Let's see On this day of 2012,. American Jazz Pianist, composer and arranger, mike Melvoin, who is the father of Wendy Melvoin from the Revolution, died in Burbank, california, at the age of 74 from cancer. He worked as a prolific studio musician recording Frank Sinatra, john Lennon, tom Weitz, barbara Streisand, jackson Fife, natalie Cole, beach Boys on Pet Sounds worked in the early 70s as a music director of the Portrait family recordings, also composed for film television, including contributing scores to fame. Let's see on this day in 2010,. Johnny fucking Maher from the Smiths was said to be ecstatic after getting back one of his guitars which had been stolen. In 2000, after a gig at the Scala nightclub in Kings Cross, london. Smith's fan Steven White told the Lennon court he was disgusted with himself for taking the 30,000 pound which is like $36,000, cherry red 64 Gibson SG which I've seen him play that in videos and stuff. When he went backstage after the gig at the Scala, imagine just picking up the guitar and leaving and nobody fucking saw you.
Speaker 1:On this day in 2004, nora Jones started the six week run at number one. Six week run at number one on the US album Chatswood Feels Like Home. The singer's second US number one album, the lead single, won the Grammy Award for best female pop vocal performance. Creepin' In, featuring Dolly Potter, was also nominated for a Grammy in the category of best country collaboration. Beautiful girl, beautiful girl On the stage 2004,. The Sex Pistols Anarchy in the UK was named the most influential record of the seventies in a poll compiled by Q magazine. Queens Bohemian Rhapsody was voted at the second place and Donna Summers, I Feel Love was third. T-rex Get it On was fourth and Specials, aka Gangsters, came fifth. On the stage 2003,. Paul McCartney played a private show in San Diego for the 50th birthday of Wendy Whitworth, the executive producer of the CNN's Larry Kingshow. Yeah he, sir Paul, donated his $1 million fee to adopt a minefield charity. Wasn't that his wife at the time's thing?
Speaker 3:She had. Yeah, she lost a leg, she lost an alpha leg.
Speaker 6:yeah, she lost an alpha leg. Yeah, she took his money. Yeah, she lost his money.
Speaker 1:Let me see on this day in 2002. Do you think he ever played a?
Speaker 3:basketball game with her, yeah.
Speaker 1:On this day in 2002, drummer Ronnie Varell died at age 76. I figured I'd throw in the drummer for Lou. Who the hell was?
Speaker 6:he, I don't know. Oh, ronnie Varell, I'm missing, 2001,.
Speaker 1:Winners of the 43rd Grammy Awards included U2, record of the Year and Song of the If for Beautiful Day, staley Dan. One album of the year for Two Against Nature, macy Gray. One female pop vocal for I Try. She never really took off after that Sting. One male pop vocal for she Walks this Earth, eminem. One best rap album from the Marshall Mathers LP and Johnny Cash. One best male country performance for Solitary man and Shelby Lynn. One best new artist award On this day in 2000, the Engagement Ring Sex Pistols Sid Vicious gave to his girlfriend, nancy Spungen, went on sale for auction at $2,515. That's it. He bought the ring from Camden Market in 1977. Also on sale was a pair of John Lennon's jeans that went for $3,825.
Speaker 3:Did they have DNA?
Speaker 1:On this day in 1992, uk Music Paper, the NME, printed their Writers' All Time Best Debut Albums At number one, patty Smith Horses. Number two, joy Division, unknown Pleasures. Number three MC5, kick Out the Jams Ophirated. Number four the Jesus and Mary Chain, Psycho Candy. Number five Television, fumar Ki Moon.
Speaker 3:Put the Peshmouda there.
Speaker 1:On this day in 1992, shakespeare's sister, who was actually one of the girls from Banana Ramma, who was married to Dave Stewart from Eurythmics, started an eight-week run at number one in the UK Singles Charts with Stay. The duo was made up of ex-Banana Ramma member Sibian Fahy and singer Marcella Detroit, who co-wrote Laydown Sally with Eric Clapton. Oh wow.
Speaker 1:One of the longest-running UK number ones in shot history and the longest-buying all-female acts. On this day in 1989, a category for heavy metal was included in Grammy Awards. For the first time, metallica performed on stage. You know where this is going, but the award went to Jethro Tell. I'm not even gonna fucking go beyond that. On this day in 1987, andy Warhol, pop artist and producer, died after a gallbladder operation. Producer of the pop-up movement, produced and managed the Velvet Underground, designed the 1967 Velvet Underground and Nico Peeled Banana album cover, which is very hard to find intact, worth a lot of money. The Rolling Stones classic Sticky Fingers album cover. On this day in 1986, mtv dedicated a full 22-hour broadcast I've done this before. There's 136 episodes you're gonna run into the same days, it's kind of strange Dedicated a full 22-hour broadcast to the Monkeys, showing all 45 episodes of the original Monkeys TV series. On this day in 1981, one hit wonder, joe Dolcey, was it number one in the UK? Single shots with Shut Up or you Face? Yes, what's the matter? You Right, is that the one?
Speaker 6:Shut Up or you Face. Oh yeah, Shut Up or you.
Speaker 1:Face is the place. God, let me see Shut. Up or you Face Every block party on Long Island, famously keeping the legendary Ultravox song Vienna off the UK. The point slot Shut Up or you Face was number one in 11 countries with over 35 different foreign language versions and selling 4 million copies. He must have fucking made his life off of that, god Jesus.
Speaker 6:I almost find it offensive.
Speaker 1:It's not crazy, I don't even care about that.
Speaker 6:I'm almost offended by that song, jesus.
Speaker 1:And he did appearances at probably restaurants, hey.
Speaker 6:I guess he's going to be at our restaurant. Every mob wedding up and down the East Coast and he just sang the same song 10 times in a row.
Speaker 1:On this day in 1978, the police appeared at Wrigley's chewing gum commercial. We appeared in a Wrigley's chewing gum commercial for the US TV. The band died to hear blonde for the appearance. I remember that On this day in 1977, the Eagles released Hotel California. Yeah, great, I don't think I need to go into detail about that one. Yeah, on this day in 1976, florence Ballard of the Supremes died of cardiac arrest at age 32. Wow Damn, she sang on 16 of the 40 singles with the group. On this day in 1975, scottish group, the average white band, went to number one of the US singles charts with pick up the pieces, yes, he says. On this day in 1975, steve Harley and Cockney rebel had their cares.
Speaker 1:On this day in 1970, david Bowie appearing at the Roundhouse Spring Festival in Camden, london. It was David Bowie in the hype, their first live performance of the new band, along with that's dongle girl. On this day in 1967, pink Floyd continued working on their debut album, the Piper at the Gates and Dawn and Abby Rhodes studio. No, I don't care. On this day, I know the album that nobody buys by Pink Floyd. On this day in 1962, elvis Presley was at number one of the UK singles. Shots with Rocker Hula baby can't help falling in love. Born on this day. Let's see Scott Phillips drama with Creed James Blunt. Let me see Don't care about that, john Sparks. Basis from Dr Phil good. Genesis O'Priety's single song. Writer. Poet Nope Weasel Pez, mike Green, bobby Hendricks. Bobby Hendricks from the Drift is Ernie K Doe.
Speaker 6:Yeah, you go.
Speaker 1:That's right, that was actually written by Alan Toussaint, yes, 19th born on the stage 1927, guy Mitchell. So it sold 44 million records.
Speaker 6:Yeah, he's one of these guys, like Slim Whitman, I think.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. And finally, born on this day in 1923, hurricane Smith, english musician, record producer and engineer, norman Smith, he produced the first three.
Speaker 6:No, the, not the first.
Speaker 1:He engineered all the Beatles EMI studio records. Yeah, and the first, second and fourth Pink Floyd record up to the end of 65 and produced three Pink Floyd albums, including the first, the pipe or the gates.
Speaker 3:The one that nobody buys.
Speaker 1:He later had successful recording career as Hurricane Smith, achieving a transatlantic hit single oh babe.
Speaker 6:You know that's all Probably. I know, baby, I know, I know I could be so in love with you. Yeah, you know dance, all hit yeah.
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Speaker 1:We did it.
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Speaker 6:It's this box, the suck ass edition. Yeah, yeah.
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