Get ready to spin the vinyl of conversation with Scott McLean with Lou Colicchio and Mark Smith from the Music Relish Show, as we bring you an episode brimming with quirky record label tales, deep dives into '70s hits, and a game of '45 poker' that's sure to resonate with any music enthusiast. We're jamming out to the sweet sounds of nostalgia, from reveling in the disco era's gems to unearthing cold wave bands that channel the spirit of the '80s. But it's not just a trip down memory lane; we're also bringing to light the Vets Connect Podcast, a heartfelt endeavor that spotlights non-profits dedicated to aiding veterans, blending our passion for music with a cause that hits close to home.
As your hosts, we're not afraid to stir up a little friendly competition, throwing down on who can claim the best finds in our vinyl showdown, all while dissecting the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's latest controversies. Discover how we pit breakfast sausage against bacon in a culinary clash and wax poetic about our favorite morning cereals that fueled our cartoon-filled weekends. And whether you're a Metallica maven or a Beastie Boys buff, we'll share our vivid musical memories and the peculiar charm that keeps us coming back to albums like "Paul's Boutique."
We wrap things up by tackling the tough questions—like whether the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame still holds its prestige or if it's turned into a mere popularity contest. Join us as we examine the larger-than-life impact of acts like Foreigner, mull over the exclusivity of this hallowed institution, and share a laugh about band poster decor mishaps. So pour a cup of your favorite brew and settle in for a chat that's as much about the universal language of music as it is about the simple joys of a good sandwich spread. With a side of music history, a dash of culinary debate, and a generous helping of heartfelt reflections, we’re serving up an episode you won't want to miss.
Get ready to spin the vinyl of conversation with Scott McLean with Lou Colicchio and Mark Smith from the Music Relish Show, as we bring you an episode brimming with quirky record label tales, deep dives into '70s hits, and a game of '45 poker' that's sure to resonate with any music enthusiast. We're jamming out to the sweet sounds of nostalgia, from reveling in the disco era's gems to unearthing cold wave bands that channel the spirit of the '80s. But it's not just a trip down memory lane; we're also bringing to light the Vets Connect Podcast, a heartfelt endeavor that spotlights non-profits dedicated to aiding veterans, blending our passion for music with a cause that hits close to home.
As your hosts, we're not afraid to stir up a little friendly competition, throwing down on who can claim the best finds in our vinyl showdown, all while dissecting the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's latest controversies. Discover how we pit breakfast sausage against bacon in a culinary clash and wax poetic about our favorite morning cereals that fueled our cartoon-filled weekends. And whether you're a Metallica maven or a Beastie Boys buff, we'll share our vivid musical memories and the peculiar charm that keeps us coming back to albums like "Paul's Boutique."
We wrap things up by tackling the tough questions—like whether the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame still holds its prestige or if it's turned into a mere popularity contest. Join us as we examine the larger-than-life impact of acts like Foreigner, mull over the exclusivity of this hallowed institution, and share a laugh about band poster decor mishaps. So pour a cup of your favorite brew and settle in for a chat that's as much about the universal language of music as it is about the simple joys of a good sandwich spread. With a side of music history, a dash of culinary debate, and a generous helping of heartfelt reflections, we’re serving up an episode you won't want to miss.
Well, here we are, Episode 141. And on this episode, as usual, I have the wrecking two, Lou Colicchio and Mark Smith from the Music Relish Show on YouTube. So usually I say Mark Smith and Luke Colicchio, but this week Lou's on top. He's the top, I mean. You know what I mean? That really didn't come out right. He might not like it.
Speaker 2:But I don't care.
Speaker 1:On this show. They have random relish. On this show. I have mixed tape. On this show. I have mixed tape. So let's do a mixed relish show, random conversation. Let's see if this goes two and a half hours. I hope not Enjoy the show.
Speaker 3:The KOFB Studio presents.
Speaker 4:Milk Crates and Turntables a music discussion podcast hosted by Scott McClain Now let's talk music.
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Speaker 1:Thank you, amanda, for that wonderful introduction as usual. Welcome back, my friends, to the show that never ends. Welcome to the podcast. You know the name, I'm not going to say it. We're streaming live right now over YouTube, couple Facebook pages, twitch X, dlive, instagram. Instagram's kind of odd. I'm not a big Instagram fan, to tell you the truth, really not, I don't pay much attention to it, but it's a source, it's a platform. So what the hell? What the hell? Speaking of hell, let's bring on Mark Smith.
Speaker 4:Howdy, what the hell, howdy how, how you doing, I'm doing good. What the hell Howdy ho, how you doing.
Speaker 1:I'm doing good. How are you?
Speaker 4:I'm going to give you a little secret. Don't tell anybody. Okay, keep it to yourself. I'm looking out my window at downtown Pearl River and I can see the building where Tom Spallone is sitting right now having a glass of wine. I think he's watching the show. He's in town. Yeah, vis, visiting his son, probably won't see him, but he's two blocks from me. Yeah, of course. Of course you won't see him.
Speaker 1:That's what friends do after 25, 30 years. That's what they do however many years. It is Yep Speaking of friends.
Speaker 2:I thought I was on top.
Speaker 1:Get the fuck out of my spot. Get out of my spot, that's better You're on the bottom. Those in sunny Paraguay it looks like. Is that a hostel in Paraguay or?
Speaker 4:Uruguay, uruguay, paraguay.
Speaker 1:Paraguay Is that, like San Salvador, el Salvador?
Speaker 2:It's more like Buncombe County, north Carolina. Buncombe County yes sir the sun is setting, the lighting will change.
Speaker 1:Ah okay, Patty Yossi, good evening, hey Patty. Hey, Patty Allison, good evening, hey sis.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, let's see what are we talking about. First, I just wanted a shameless plug for my new podcast called Vets Connect Podcast V-E-T-S-C-O-N-N-E-C-T. One word Vets Connect Podcast. It's getting some legs already. Uh. It's getting some good backing from the va and from a division of united way, uh, where I interview non-profits that help veterans, and I already have at least 10 interviews lined up and they just keep coming in. So, uh, if you want to listen to another podcast with me, that's not a good selling point, I think.
Speaker 4:I don't think that's gonna take it any more exciting I heard you pilot and I love it and I think it's a great subject. Yes means a lot to me, so, uh, I'm going to spread the word on it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I appreciate that. I appreciate that I want to, and it really isn't about me that one. I just ask the questions. I provide the platform and I have the discussion with the people that run these nonprofits that help veterans. Again, it's called Vets Connect Podcasts on all the platforms. It was Allison said it was very good, loved, loved it. Thank you very much. Uh, when's episode two? I'm releasing it, uh, sunday night, so it'll be out there sunday night, monday. I'm interviewing my friends ronda fritzschall and nungay johnson from the herd foundation. So that was kind of weird. That's like me interviewing you too, like it's it's hard to interview.
Speaker 4:There's a familiarity in there.
Speaker 1:I I avoided saying the word familiarity because I didn't want to fuck it up. So it says there's a sense of friendship, if you see sense, uh, a sense of friendship, uh, because that's a little more serious, that podcast, but it's really good. I have somebody in Illinois, a nonprofit there, a nonprofit in Rhode Island, a nonprofit up in the Panhandle here, a bunch from around here it's getting some attention and I wanted to just get the word out to veterans that these nonprofits exist, because I didn't. I didn't know they existed, I just knew the VA it's really like. So I did my second interview today and I'm just going to start lining them up and just release every Sunday, every Sunday. And Alison Hanley, my buddy Alison, she gave me some. She's one of the people I know will give me direct criticism Now whether.
Speaker 1:I take it or not is another thing, but I love Allison.
Speaker 4:I won't do that. I'm scared to give that to you.
Speaker 1:No, she's not. She never was. That's one of the things I love about her, um so, anyway, enough about me, let's talk about me how do you feel about me?
Speaker 1:yeah, how do you feel about me? All right, gentlemen, let's get right into it. Let's uh, let's play a little 45 poker. Uh, for the people that don't know what it is, I have a box of 45s here, the old 45s, and Mark has the exact same design, which I thought was hilarious. Creepy Must have been a popular model then Back in the 70s. I have a box of old 45s, mark does too, and Lou does. Right, lou, do you have yours this week? I can only find one.
Speaker 2:I don't know where the rest are. It's 145. Well, that's not going to do us any good, I know.
Speaker 1:So then we'll do this like we did before. I'll do the big head Todd the wet sprocket, just rolled into the live stream. I am here entertaining me, as he's consistent, if he's anything, dave Phillips, uh, I am here entertain me, as he's consistent, if he's anything, dave phillips, king of the 45s, just rolled into the live stream. Yeah, the human jukebox, yeah, yeah, human jukebox, yeah what is it?
Speaker 2:dave's? Uh, dave's tunes, uh, tony's tunes, tony's tunes, that's his dog, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:So for the people that might not know, I'm going to pick a 45 for each one of us and then I'll pick a second one. Then Mark has the flop card and the one with the best three 45s wins the day. I am on. What an 18-game winning streak is it?
Speaker 3:now it's 18. It's four, is it? Now it's?
Speaker 1:18. Four, it's four.
Speaker 2:Is it four?
Speaker 1:Yeah, wow, yeah, four in a row. Yeah, lou's lost four in a row.
Speaker 2:Right now I'm anywhere. I won two in a row and I've lost all the rest.
Speaker 1:Exactly, you were dominating when it was just my brother.
Speaker 2:Patty.
Speaker 1:Patty Yossi sent me all her 45s, and well, that was your downfall.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was your downfall, that's right.
Speaker 1:So I have not reshuffled this deck. I still have a bunch left, so they're piled up on the outside over there. So, as you can see, there's not that many. You know, I got a couple weeks left in here and then I'll reshuffle all the 45s, all right? So let's start off with Lou. Let's start off with Lou Feeling lucky tonight. Feeling lucky buddy Feeling lucky. Let's see what 45 is Lou going to draw. Let me see. Wait, I have to answer my friend Allison Hanley, or she'll yell at me. I don't like that. Do you have that little yellow thing in the middle of the foot? No, the disc, I don't. I don't have that little disc.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I used to throw those at my sister when we fought yeah, you'd flick them, you'd hold them and you'd shoot them.
Speaker 1:You'd shoot them at each other, yeah.
Speaker 4:Not my sister on here, my other sister.
Speaker 1:Of course you're going to say that because your sister on here will whoop your ass boy.
Speaker 4:All right, here we go, let's see what Lou pulls out this week.
Speaker 1:Let's see. Let's see if he starts off strong From Capital Records here we go Capital Records All right, let's see, oh, this is an okay one. Tavares, tavares, boston's own Tavares, oh, from Boston.
Speaker 2:That's where they're from.
Speaker 1:It only takes a minute, girl, to fall in love, to fall in love.
Speaker 2:It's another middling disco R&B song I've gotten. What is it Middling, middling, middling, middling? We called it middling. Middling All right, all right.
Speaker 1:That's me.
Speaker 2:It's all me. Come on, Okay, Come on. Come on See now. Every week the pressure mounts.
Speaker 4:Lucky sevens.
Speaker 2:Every week the pressure mounts. Take them down, Mark. Take them down.
Speaker 1:From Areola. America Say that again please. Who the fuck would name their record company Areola?
Speaker 2:Is it Bo Nipley? I had a friend that was his nickname Bo Nipley. Don't want to be, have you heard?
Speaker 1:The Thompson tits I mean Lou is not all of draft this week louis and sunny uruguay oh, did I say paraguay?
Speaker 2:I said uruguay.
Speaker 1:You said I'm in sunny paraquat all right, here we go, here we go. Uh, oh, jesus, this one isn't. Uh, I love it already. Marmalade. Fly, fly, fly fly. No, I'll be a fly robin fly well, let's, let's do a quick, let's do a quick hit right here.
Speaker 2:Let's see, that's another middling, that's a middling hit yeah, yeah, marmalade, marmalade.
Speaker 1:Greatest hits. They have a greatest hits actually. Uh, let's see greatest hit. I don't even see it on the greatest hits, mama, oh boy fly. I have to know what this song I, we have to know it right yeah, when you hear it you'll know it. Oh, it's a bonus track.
Speaker 4:Are you sure you got the a side, not the B side? Nice bonus.
Speaker 1:Oh boy, it's not a disco song.
Speaker 4:No, it's not Run in the middle rock and roll I don't like that song.
Speaker 1:Let's see what the other one is.
Speaker 4:Falling Apart at the Seams. That's a.
Speaker 2:Cinderella song? I don't know it.
Speaker 1:Let's see. Marmal't know this is a horrible pick, but I have to know. Falling apart at the seams. Let's see, come on. Oh, that's just this is some 70s cheese it is. Oh, that's it, that's a. That's a loser right there. Homage to Fromage. Fuck me, yeah, all right, not looking good, I need some big ones. Here you go, mark. This is all you.
Speaker 2:I'm in the lead. I'm in the lead right now. You're in the lead.
Speaker 4:You're finally in the lead Want to hear something neat. They're from Scotland, so they tried to be the Bay City Rollers.
Speaker 1:Dave. Phillips king of the 45, says Marmalade did Reflections of my Life. Wow, Patti Asi. She says it's disco, that wasn't it? Well, that's what it says on this one Marmalade.
Speaker 2:Reflections of my Life. That's it. I don't know, dave, that was the hit, I think.
Speaker 1:Reflections of my Life, that was it Maybe, yeah, so anyway, all right, here we go. I'm losing right now. So, mark, here you go from ABC records.
Speaker 4:ABC Dunhill.
Speaker 1:Dunhill. Yeah, okay, have you seen, dunhill this, if there was seventies cheese.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's me.
Speaker 1:If there is a a hall of fame of sevents cheese, this rat will take cheese. This is in it. Bo Donaldson and the Haywoods. You know the song, you know the song. Billy, don't be a hero.
Speaker 2:It was a hit, though that's the biggest hit. I think Mark's in the lead.
Speaker 1:I think that was a bigger hit than Tavares. It only takes a minute, girl. All right, here you go lou round two also falls under 1975 74.
Speaker 2:There's cheesy songs of 74, oh yeah yeah, they were the early 70s.
Speaker 1:Jerry jackson yeah, yeah, all, right, here you go. Number two let's see what you. The Sound of Philadelphia. You're right, lou is on a fucking disco roll right now. The Three Degrees when will I see you again? That was a hit. When will I see you again?
Speaker 4:Is that the?
Speaker 1:song Yep, sweet, sweet love. When will I see?
Speaker 2:you again, I need a big one right here.
Speaker 1:I need a big one right here, here we go.
Speaker 4:Someone isolate that track.
Speaker 1:Okay, this says there's writing on this one. There's writing on this one. It said would you love to see Patty wrote notes on her? Love to see here Patty wrote notes on her. You don't even try to get to know her, you drove it's hilarious. You don't know her. Do you want to? There's all this writing on this.
Speaker 4:That's her diary. Don't read her diary. This is a promo.
Speaker 1:This is a promo. 45. Cool, a rare promo. I love promos. I collect album promos. You know what the thing about promos are that do not sell or not for sale. Yeah, they are all original printings. Yeah, right, they're all original printings. When they do that and I have I don't know, I probably have about 10 really good ones I just, for some reason, I just love the promos yeah. All right. So let's see what she has. Let's see Mike Hammond been watching the show what's up buddy, and he said it too.
Speaker 1:Cinderella. It's from Capitol Records. All right, that doesn't mean anything. Yeah what the fuck the oh boy, uh, the stimu, like dr hook and doug the stimu S-T-I-M-U. This says Includes excerpts of songs Contained in Dr Hook's Capital album Bankrupt. Try it, you'll like it.
Speaker 2:Try it, you'll like it.
Speaker 1:I'm done this week. I'm fucking fried, Dr Hook the stimu. Should I even try to listen to that? We should have a turntable next to you. The fucking the album thing. The the 45 shot is better than the fucking 45 itself. All right, here we go, Mark. Yeah, this is, this is Lou's in the lead again.
Speaker 2:I'm in the lead right now.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Lou is so desperate to win. I really am, I really am.
Speaker 1:Now remember, lou, since I've won four in a row and you won two. This means Mark has never won.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's the worst.
Speaker 2:You pulled some good songs though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a couple of controversial calls Last week was a judgment call.
Speaker 2:I had to make the call on it.
Speaker 4:Let me see. Yeah, I'm used to those calls Lou.
Speaker 1:Allison Harry likes that it only takes a minute girl To get it on.
Speaker 1:That's a big, that was a disco hit right. All right, here we go From Penny Tone Records. Thanks, penny Tone. Penny Tone Records. Oh, you fucking lost. This is worse. I might be in second place right now. Penny Tone Records. Right there, it is right there, penny Tone Records. Why don't they understand? And playing the field by Tony Canigliaro, the Boston Red Sox could have been the greatest Hitting the face with the pitch. Never played it. Tony C a Red Sox player oh, mark, just dropped to the bottom, I got a Red Sox.
Speaker 4:I couldn't get a Yankee, had to be a Red Sox, yeah yeah, well, all right, mark, you got the flop card.
Speaker 1:I mean Lou, I kind of like that. Lou looks like he's walking away with this one. Maybe not. I pull a stinker, unless I pull a huge one because, well, I don't have a chance in hell. Mark, you can pull this out, Mark.
Speaker 4:All right, so this has no, but it's Motown, no sleeve. Okay, diana Russ and the Supremes Will this be the day and Love Child.
Speaker 1:Oh, love Child. Yeah, lou Got the Motown and the disco this week. Lou pulls it out. He might as well flop the cards with me and you.
Speaker 4:Mark, all right, see who's the biggest loser. Yeah, exactly who's the biggest loser.
Speaker 1:Come in second. Maybe let's see what we got here, Because it's come down to this 145 mark to see who comes in second.
Speaker 4:Okay, so this is you right, Scott, yes, Lori. Records of New York. Jesus Dion Ooh, Abraham Martin and John oh.
Speaker 1:And Daddy Roland Abraham Martin and John abraham martin and john and daddy roland abraham martin and john. Yeah, okay, let's see, mark, this is your make a break. Well, yeah, I, I think, I, I think I'm winning dr hook obscurity over tony canigliaro. Steamu redu Red Sox Stimu.
Speaker 4:The old epic label. Remember the old one with the yellow? Oh yeah, yeah, that's not good Well, Sly and the Family Stone, Everybody is a star and thank you. Oh, thank you, Wins.
Speaker 1:Yeah, wow, if you had another, if you had a good middle of the road, you would have won. Yeah, so mark comes in second once again holds the record for that.
Speaker 1:So all right, let's get that out of the way, I want to talk about some bands that maybe you've caught on to lately and you know you go on to Spotify or you go on to Amazon Music and you find something. I don't know where I found this first band, but I started going down a rabbit hole and I discovered that there's this whole thing that's been going on since like 2010. And it's called cold wave, c-o-l-d. Cold wave, not new wave, heavily, heavily influenced by new wave, or more in the, in the direction of doc wave. Maybe, like Susan the Banshees is considered like doc wave, yeah, or more in the direction of Darkwave. Maybe, like Susan the Banshees is considered like Darkwave, but it's all New Wave.
Speaker 1:So I came upon this band. I got a couple of them actually called Hangwire Right, you gotta check them out, man, if this band isn't heavily influenced by Joy Division division, I don't know who is. Oh, they sound good, dude, that heavy bass at you know, all throughout that starts off the songs goes throughout the song, that heavy 80s kind of not as like that sound, not a synth bass, but but it's just heavy bass. And they're from Montevideo, uruguay. That's where I got Uruguay.
Speaker 2:Ah, that's why I'm in Uruguay right now. Yeah, why I'm in Uruguay right now.
Speaker 1:That's where you are right now. Why didn't you go see?
Speaker 2:Hangwire. I hung out with Merin, that's why he's there he just signed him.
Speaker 1:You got to check them out, Hangwire.
Speaker 1:And they're from Erie. So then, going down the rabbit hole, I came across this band and they played in Miami last night and I was going to go down and see them. It's a small club. Driving to Miami is just a pain in the ass and it's going to a show on a Wednesday night at a small club. I've done it before. I'm going by myself, but I was like something came up and I really couldn't make it. They're called Traders T-R-A-I-T-R-S and they're from Toronto. I've heard them. Yeah, they've been around for a while. That sound to me. They have that echo in the Bunnymen kind of sound. So these are all this cold wave sounds, right, yeah, I had no idea this shit existed, but I can't stop listening to it now. Cool it is. Even my wife listened to it and she's like that's 80s right.
Speaker 4:So I could just insert cold wave.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that was just the description it was given cold wave.
Speaker 4:Yeah, someone's got a cold wave mix on spotify.
Speaker 1:I see it here yeah, and so then I came across this band called lebanon hanover and they are this british, german post-punk sound and they have it's a, it's, it's a guy and a girl, she's Swedish, I think, she's from Switzerland or something, and they have a really like Suzy and the Banshees type sound. So they're called Lebanon Hanover and each of those words, each part of the name, represents where they're from in their particular country.
Speaker 1:Okay, and then there's a group called Forever Gray and they're from Los Angeles. They have like a really you know that dark, heavy voice, almost like a Bauhaus type sound to them, but that's Forever Gray, as in G-R-E-Y.
Speaker 1:So Hangwire Traders, lebanon, hanover and Forever Gray those are the cold wave bands that I started adding them to my playlist, my finely manicured playlist, and I can't. I mean, it's just like flashbacks to the 80s. It's amazing and I again I did not know this existed, like what the hell. See, this is what happens when you life gets in the way of your music and you don't really research, like when we were younger, you'd go digging around looking for this shit well, it's just one good thing about spotify for us we're older now we don't have time to be digging in record stores like we used to.
Speaker 4:Spotify is great at your fingertips. You've got, yeah, a world of music, so in that respect I support it. But if I really like a band, if I really like them, I will buy their cd to show them the support, yeah, you know if they have a cd.
Speaker 1:Not every band does, but um, did you ever see the, the show on netflix, the playlist? No, no, oh, it's a whole thing on how spotify came about oh, but the way it's done is brilliant.
Speaker 1:There's five individuals involved and each episode is from that person's perspective okay, and it's really like they all have a little bit of different. You know how this really happened, uh, how this person was, how that person was, but uh, it's called the playlist I. I highly recommend it. It's. It's got the uh, the dub which I just have gotten used to. I used to hate it, but now I'm just kind of used to it on Netflix because I'd rather watch a foreign dubbed, english dubbed show than any garbage on network television.
Speaker 4:You mean so they're talking in another language?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's like the voices are dubbed over.
Speaker 2:Oh, what's the original language? Dutch.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's somewhere around there. I yeah, it's it's. I think it's it's somewhere around there.
Speaker 4:I thought it was Swedish, the guy that founded it maybe?
Speaker 1:yeah, it could have been.
Speaker 2:It could have been northern Europe yeah, it's.
Speaker 1:Then there's one more band that I found. They're an American band, it's more modern sound. Uh, they're called Cherry Ghost. Cherry Ghost and they've been around for a little while. They kind of have an ambient aspect to this sound, but catchy beats, like there's a contrast. There's a song called 4 am and it could be a country song, but it's very upbeat right. The lyrics kind of have a like a country feel to them. Y'all meet you out on the dance floor type thing, but the beat is real poppy. And then you have a song called people help the people, and it has kind of a cold play sound to it. Oh, okay, you know. So, cherry ghost, you'll check them out on spotify. Yeah, hang wire traders. That's t-r-a-i-t-R-S. Lebanon, hanover, forever Gray and Cherry Ghost, and I don't think you'll be disappointed. I was kind of happy with the discovery of it.
Speaker 4:Lebanon. Hanover have an intriguing song title Kiss Me Till my Lips Fall Off.
Speaker 1:All right, I want to know, number one, how I wasn't told that my backlighting wasn't on. Thanks guys, see, it's off now. Now it's on. You know what else isn't on. What's that, iron man? Activate, activate Liverpool.
Speaker 2:Coffee maker.
Speaker 1:Coffee maker. Make coffee Good to the last drop.
Speaker 4:Okay, uh, mark have you come across anything new lately? Well, this isn't new, as in just released, but I got the cd from somebody a while back and I just didn't listen to it. A couple weeks ago, I went to see a guy named vinnie moore. Vinnie moore came about, remember, after eng Yngwie came out. We had all these shredders releasing these instrumental solo albums and they're all going crazy on the guitar. Who can play faster?
Speaker 4:You might remember that I wasn't, that I got burned out on it because they all sounded the same neoclassical. So this guy, vinnie though he was different, he was a little more progressive and he wasn't as thrashy more progressive and he wasn't as like thrashy he was a little easier to listen to, um. So I saw him down in teenac, about 30 miles from my house. Here only about 30 people showed up. That's the sad part. But, um, I've been listening to him and he does things.
Speaker 4:He'll put out a cd and the first five songs will be with a vocalist. Then the second five songs will be instrumental versions of those songs. But when he plays solo he's not just mimicking what the soloist, what the vocalist did. And he's good, this guy, he's a, he's a workhorse. He's been with the ufo I'm sure you know that. Yeah, yeah, for the last 20 years. He actually was probably the longest serving guitarist in the band. They finally, I think, broke up. But, very approachable guy, after the show you didn't have to do a meet and greet, he just was there. Hey, how you doing.
Speaker 1:That's what the dude from the church did. He just came out into the lobby and was like what's?
Speaker 4:up yeah.
Speaker 1:Just hanging out.
Speaker 2:That means he really does like the band. I follow him on Facebook. Who's that?
Speaker 1:follow him on facebook. Who's that? Uh, steve kilby. He from church. He's very well, he did the guitarist steve kilby kind of. He kind of stayed to himself for that one, but the guitarist came out and was just like hanging out. I love when artists do that they're all.
Speaker 2:They're all pretty connected to their fans and it's almost intimate.
Speaker 1:It's intimate really yeah yeah you're still there.
Speaker 2:Saying mark you know he didn't have to come out was like you know. Mr moore will come out in 20 minutes. He just came out and well, he was there.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the musical. I went to debonair musical lou, you probably know what it used to be. I forget the name, the old name of the club, uh in t-neck?
Speaker 2:uh, I don't know t-neck, I know. I told you a friend of mine was playing the week the following week okay, it's so small, there's no backstage.
Speaker 4:He, pretty much. I guess they're in their van outside changing you know uh, but it's, it's big, as in height, but there's no backstage. They just didn't build a backstage area. So, uh, but I think the meet and greets unless you're really really big, and I think it controls fans, but I think some of the smaller bands were trying to meet and greets and, yeah, they were making money, but it's also kind of dying like. So you pay extra money and you shake their hand and that's it. You know whereas it, though I think we've all been through this. So do you ever meet someone you really like? And you got that annoying fan that just won't shut up and won't let anybody else talk to them, so I could see the artists not liking that too.
Speaker 4:On the other hand, yeah, yeah, what else you got anything, come up with anything um, you know I've been deep diving just on older stuff that I never really listened to. There's holes in my music thanks to mr lou here, the professor here, uh, just recommending stuff. So you know I I did a deep dive the other day on um. Hold on, I'm flipping around here. Hold on, good rats.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, good rats so I knew about them, the good rats, the good rats became good rats like like eagles. Is not the eagles you call them that?
Speaker 4:they're known as good rats from long island I don't know if they ever made it up to boston the popularity, but they were big in the tri-state area and I think in the Midwest too. They were one of those bands that never really they could have cracked it. But they didn't, yeah, you know, because they kind of did their own thing a little too much. But Lou talked about them on the Music Rail Show and then I just started listening. I'm like holy shit, they're good. They had some good music. So that's what I like about spotify. So I sat there one night and just started going through bang, bang, bang. Now you know what, if you buy a vinyl and you don't like the band, you don't get mad. Yeah, it's okay, you know, but it's kind of a downer if you spent money, especially when you were young, you know yeah, oh yeah. So I'm catching up. I missed a lot of good music when I was a kid uh, because I was pretty much stuck in the stuff I listened to.
Speaker 4:I was stuck in prague and I just didn't give an ear to other things, so I'm kind of like catching up now, all right what about you, lou?
Speaker 2:um, I'd like to tune you guys. Tune you guys on to a band from ashville called band of horses. Have you heard of them? They get some alternative xm, uh, airplay, um, guitar driven, kind of atmospheric, kind of shoegazy, but it's got a beat, but it's got a really good singer. I don't know who the singer is. The bass player is a customer. He comes to the shop where I work. Really cool guy, um, I think, if you like kind of that. They almost have like an english sound, um, that's. I don't know any album titles but I just listen to them randomly they're on spotify they're on spotify so that I think it's a good example of you know they're.
Speaker 2:They're a bigger band than what plays in nashville. In fact, I don't even play here. Uh, they do some more like more national tours and like has support acts and festivals and stuff. But a good sound and I really like the singer. I like it very melodic. I think it's a really great radio voice. I don't even know any of their names, I just know the band, so just worth checking out.
Speaker 4:Oh, I like it. That's my kind of music, thank you.
Speaker 2:Thank you it that's my kind of music. I like this. They're really good alright, I'm adding that to my playlist right now.
Speaker 2:Check them out. They've got some songs. Some have driving beats. Yeah, they have a song called, I think it's with I Got a Crush or something. It was like a single and it was catchy but it was very alternative but it wasn't really commercial. It's just an interesting sound. Bass player's a cool guy, likes good wine. Um, I don't really deal in too much, you know, it's not not like a rock star vibe, it's just a really down-to-earth guy, but a really cool dude.
Speaker 2:Um, band of horses all right, all right, and I heard I think there's a new album by a band called slow dive. They were one of the original english shoegaze bands. Ah, um, really good, they would. Uh. The guitar player, christian seville, went on to be in a band called monster movie, which was kind of something. The same had some kind of techno aspects, but like a like a pop synth techno with guitar, with that kind of driving, chiming, distorted shoegaze guitar. Um, but he came to work. I didn't. I never knew who they were until I was working at a natural food store in asheville and someone said the new porter was a rock star from england and it was a guy, christian seville, from, uh, slow dive. He just walked away from music for a while, moved his family to america and he goes.
Speaker 2:I'm cleaning up um hippie piss or something I'm cleaning up after hippies, uh so I got the norm a little bit and uh yeah, just sorry you went back to england start, start the band again.
Speaker 2:But the even the band monster movie is really really good, um, but slow dive is. Is the the band? So I heard a new song of theirs. Don't know the name of it, I just happened to catch it. Yeah, um, but you know they're. They're english, though, and really cool. It's got like a kind of a mid-tempo. The guy I like this guitar sound. It's kind of it's distorted crunchy, kind of chiming I like that yeah yeah, I, I think you would you like the english manchester stuff.
Speaker 2:That's a big thing, yours. I don't know exactly, I don't know where they're from, but he's a good dude, by the way, really nice guy. Well, shoegaze came out of manchester, I believe that was okay. Yeah, I thought so. I thought so, yeah, yeah, but apparently I don't know how big they were in England. Uh, they had a lot of American fans, so when he came to America he must have known somebody here. So some of the guys that worked at this place kind of had heard of him. So I got to meet him and get the music through there. But, uh, cool stuff, all right, and so lastly, um, I've been like really decrying some of the music of the under 30 crowd, some of the singer, songwriters on our show, you know, and I'm thinking like it's just so.
Speaker 2:It seems like it's almost like legislated sadness and depression. Everyone's like in the mire and I just think it's kind of heart disheartening to see, as an older person, younger people wallowing in, and there's always been that aspect. But anyway, on the radio radio I heard this kind of latin jazz thing, almost like girl from epinema, that kind of brazilian jazz, and I like that rhythm.
Speaker 2:I know you do too. Yeah, and I hear I said this is really cool, it's a cool beat, a cool feel. And I hear a voice. It's a young woman. Uh, it's a cute voice, you know. They all sound very cute, you know. But the lyrics were very sunny, they were very positive and kind of almost happy. I'm like, oh, this is kind of neat. What's the name of the band? The artist is named Biba Dubie. It's B-E-A-B-A, dubie, d-o-o-b-i-e.
Speaker 2:She's Filipino-English All right you got to send me that. Text me, I will, I will. So she got, like you know, youtube stars, but she had a song called the Glue Song.
Speaker 1:You mean she's half Filipino, like me?
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:By marriage. Like me, I mean my kids, my wives.
Speaker 4:I found her, Scott. She's on Spotify.
Speaker 2:When I heard a couple songs, I didn't look at any pictures or videos, and I did. She's almost too cute actually. It's neat stuff. Songs are fun. She sounds and she's almost too cute actually. Yeah, but it's neat stuff and the songs they're fun. She sounds like she's having fun in life, so I think that's a good thing, yeah, and so bright, sunny pop and that rhythm thing caught me so it was kind of sophisticated and that kind of brought me in and I thought the lyrics were nice, so cool stuff.
Speaker 4:You know what you bring. We're nice, you know. So, yeah, cool stuff. You know what is it.
Speaker 1:You bring up a problem you can make incredibly sad music and make it beautiful. We grew up with some really sad songs. We love to hear right. Yeah, nothing more depressing in morrissey's lyrics but johnny ma's guitar.
Speaker 4:At least you know what to a very upbeat the vocal melodies, yeah they in a weird way, like I'm a steve wilson guy, porcupine tree, it'll bring me up here in this stuff and now they've gone over the edge where it's just like be depressed.
Speaker 1:Well, music right, I mean, our parents were raging over punk, but I want to give you a little taste of Hangwire. And they're on Spotify and this is this fun machine and they really don't have a lot of downloads or anything. It's kind of interesting. This is their most downloaded song and it's 51,000. But tell me, this doesn't this caught me right away. I was like, oh shit, this is one of those moments. So let's see, let me restart it. Wait till this guitar kicks in it's 80s.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Right Heavy on the chorus pedal.
Speaker 2:You know the chorus of the guitar.
Speaker 1:I mean, I love this sound Let me tell you that's good. If that doesn't sound like Ian Curtis.
Speaker 4:Yeah Right, and they're a relatively new band.
Speaker 1:No, they've been around for a little while. They're from Montevideo, Uruguay. They must be big in South America, you know.
Speaker 2:That's called.
Speaker 1:Cold Wave yeah, it's a whole sound man. It's like, wow, Like I said, check out those bands. But I mean, I'm pretty sure I could play hangwire and I'm not gonna get a copyright problem you never know, though we got one last week you guys did yeah, but it's about time. I don't know how you've been getting away with it for so long.
Speaker 1:I know we were pretty lucky, pretty lucky, you were you were hey, I, I got a question, let's, let's kind of move on. What is the deal with and, mark, you might know the answer to this. What is the deal with? Uh, saint, anger by metallica. Why is there so much hate behind that?
Speaker 4:you know, part of it's social media. Um, we've we've had this discussion the band's worst album, right. So if people decide an album is their worst album, nobody likes it and I feel sorry for the one person that says I like it and they kill them on social media. It sounds like crap it's. I think they wanted it to sound like an old, old-fashioned hardcore album, so it's got a lot of clipping, a lot of overload. Um, lars ulrich has it sounds like he's hitting a coffee can his drum and there's no guitar solos, which a lot of people. They just made short songs, short thrashy songs. In retrospect, years later, some people are turning around saying you know, it came out and people expected the black album or something like that, and it wasn't epic, it was very low quality and I think that's what got a lot of people, you know, mad. But, like you said, on facebook people start to say it's their worst album ever and it snowballs the song saint anger is fucking insanely heavy and fast it is, it is that's like speed metal.
Speaker 4:Almost they are just like the problem is, I think the whole album is like that and that's how they started. But a lot of fans, especially newer fans, were lulled into when they went, you know, the Black album. After that they did more Black Sabbath type stuff. So you know, I think it just kicked a lot of people in the ass and I think I'm boring Todd Sockman in here so.
Speaker 1:So for the listeners on the podcast side of the house, while mark's talking big head, todd the wet sprocket, just uh.
Speaker 4:Just messaged into the live stream saying I'm driving home a little tired, so see what you can do to keep me from falling asleep for the next hour and this comes through like it's just easy to bring me down, you know wow, wow, that's okay okay, you know but I'll tell you what there's an album of theirs that gets worse reviews, and it's lulu, the album they did with Lou Reed that gets slammed.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I don't even see that. I never even heard of it until I read about it.
Speaker 2:I think it can only help Lou Reed in many ways.
Speaker 1:Trying to give him metal cred.
Speaker 2:Give him some. You know I'm too hard on Lou Reed. Is Lou Reed overrated? I think so. I do too. I do too I think he was a cool dude in a in a yeah uh, pseudo counterculture hero, good timing, you know, take a walk in the wild side is an absolute classic, there's no doubt I like.
Speaker 1:I mean, I like it was so original you got to give it props for its originality when it Take a Walk in the Wild Side is an absolute classic, there's no doubt I mean I like it. It was so original you got to give it props for its originality when it first came out.
Speaker 4:It was a jazz song.
Speaker 1:It really isn't. It didn't take a lot of fucking talent to do that. It's not really. It's more spoken word than anything, right? It's a little mix, a little mix there, uh the lyrics. Like anybody could have wrote those lyrics, I mean it was controversial, you get some black girls in the background.
Speaker 2:No, they weren't. They weren't black girls. They were not black girls, were they really? Well, they were colored girls, that's right.
Speaker 1:That's right. That's right. According to lou can the colored girls say you know um can't make that song today.
Speaker 2:No, you could not. No, you could not, even when she was giving head and it was a guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the whole, yeah, the whole thing.
Speaker 1:Yep, I think that was kind of the flip on that.
Speaker 4:You were mentioning. Okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:Go ahead, lou. The St Anger album. I'm not a big Metallica fan, so when I saw the movie, was it some kind of monster? Yeah, I thought it was kind of cool. I wasn't offended by the music, but they said the reason with the snare the drum thing was he threw the snare mechanism off the snare drum so it was like a high-pitched tom-tom.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so it was not like a.
Speaker 2:You know when you have the snare on when he's hitting it ding, ding, ding ding yeah, so it was like a kit full of tom-toms. I think ginger baker did that too a lot. Now you?
Speaker 1:gotta think he knew what he was doing. They knew what they were doing. They knew the sound they were putting out. They're not idiots. They had a purpose and they were like they were. They were digging it evidently. I don't think it was like forced for them to do that. I think you give them credit for going outside the box and stretching it out.
Speaker 4:If you fail, you fail, I mean they do that because I kind of feel for them, because I know younger people that say there are led zeppelin and you know, led zeppelin was a very, very complicated band. They had all kinds of music metallica, have one kind of music and I think they get tired of it and they try to go outside the box and their fans expect one thing.
Speaker 1:That's when you go to the concert and they sing a song in a different tune that you you know a popular song, and how many times have you seen that Like? And they change up the way he sings it, or, uh, he's a little off tune on purpose, for because they're trying to break the monotony of singing this fucking song.
Speaker 4:I really think Metallica they do each album and they say, okay, we got to do an album. If we do like the last album, there'll be half the fans are going to say it sounds the same If we try something different. Half the fans get pissed off. So they kind of box themselves into a corner. But I understand that. You know, those guys are in their 60s, right, and they're still doing the same thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they do it good, I mean it's not like.
Speaker 1:I don't think they lost a lot of fans when they come out with a bad album. No, because then they come out with another album that's good and everyone forgets about it. Look at Paul's Boutique with the Beastie Boys. Yeah, yeah, you know people forgot about that. They were like, oh okay, you know they were expecting License to Ill all over again. Right, they over again and right, they get up a more more mature, a little more advanced, very our type of hip-hop, a little. You know, they were really experimental and it got, you know, by the way, one of the greatest album covers ever. Yeah, paul's boutique, if you ask me, that's one of the greatest album covers ever. I love that album cover. It's, it's, it's. I'm not a big fan of new york, but you look at that. You're like it's a fucking thrift store on the corner and right, you know, and it's just, it had a real uh like street feel to it.
Speaker 4:They, they caught it with that picture of whoever the photographer was I had a promo poster for that album from sam goody from my work there, and I lost it. Wow, it was huge too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, damn those things you know did. Have you ever fucking priced old posters?
Speaker 4:yes, what the fuck. And the shirts too old rock shirt.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the shirts, but the posters like the shit that we stuck. How many posted posters did you have that had at least 27 fucking thumbtack holes in each corner? Yes right, I mean, we all had them. We all had them. And you know, even if, fucking, even those like, uh, snoopy posters, you know the charlie brown poses, but these music posters, they're, they're, at this point, they're considered art, like I've got some.
Speaker 4:I still got some. I put some in storage and I pulled them out when I worked in bridgeport and I came to the I got them up at the hospital. But uh, I still have a lot of them. Uh, I should really go through and take stock what I got dude.
Speaker 1:I mean some of these, I mean, and you look back at them and it is as retro as it gets. Yeah, you know, but these these band posters, we all had them. I don't see that shit today. My kids didn't grow up putting. Fucking. I had a journey promo from like uh strawberries records and it was. It wasn't even a regular uh size like shaped poster, which is like what? Two feet, you know, 48 inches by whatever right, it's longer than it is wider. This was a true square and it was.
Speaker 1:Journey Escape. I think I think it was the Escape album, right, I had it on my ceiling. You know how fucking hard it is to put a fucking poster on your ceiling.
Speaker 4:Did anyone ever try to do that, Getting in the thumbtack? It was impossible.
Speaker 2:Not on my ceiling, no.
Speaker 1:And you're standing on your bed and you're unstable. That was a Farrah Fawcett poster that was in my bed, that thing got fucked up. In what ways it won.
Speaker 2:I saw a YouTube video and last night it was the beastie boys on snl and elvis castello came out and crashed the party yeah, I've seen that, pretty cool I didn't, you know, I didn't know they were that good as musicians and they sang radio, so he finished the.
Speaker 1:Oh, they were really good musicians they trained themselves, they became yeah, you know what they did. They uh, they went around the country collecting instruments and then giving them away, like when they went to a city to do a show, they'd have a fucking truckload of instruments. That's cool and they would give it to kids. They were giving them to schools and shit like that Cool, but they were actually pretty good musicians man.
Speaker 4:They became because when I was working in, CPI.
Speaker 1:They had good teachers. I'm sure.
Speaker 4:Well, when I worked at CPpi, we they started their own label. I think it was grand roulette record yeah, grand roulette yeah so they put out their old. Before they got into rap. That was a fluke. They put out they were doing like hardcore music and they were not that good. They really weren't good musicians. Then, as a fluke they did one little rap song and it took off off for them. But they learned to play their instruments, which I admired that. Yeah, I mean Sabotage. Yeah, that's a great song.
Speaker 1:One of the greatest videos ever made. Hell, yeah, I got the VHS.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's a mini movie, one of the greatest videos ever made.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what let's get into. You make the call, we'll get back to mixed relish. But I want to do this. This is you make the call, the food edition. Uh-oh.
Speaker 2:Lou Food edition.
Speaker 1:All right, lou, everybody listening everybody watching. Put your bib on. Get your plate, sit yourself at bib on. Get your plate, sit yourself at the table. Get your elbows off the table. Dave Phillips, king of the 45s, elbows off the table. There you go.
Speaker 2:Mark's putting his paper bib on, must be a lobster, yeah.
Speaker 1:No well, I don't even think it's mentioned in here. All right, let's start it off. We'll start with you. You make the call.
Speaker 4:You make the call, all right, tuna fish or egg salad, tuna fish or egg salad at this point in my life, tuna fish a year ago would have been egg salad. I burned out on egg salad, did you really? Yeah, I ate too much of it and it gives you gas. Nasty guess egg salad did you really yeah, I ate too much of it and it gives you gas, nasty guess.
Speaker 2:Egg salad equals death. There's one thing on this earth I cannot eat is that fucking horrible concoction, that yellow mustard floppy, so it's like fucking sulfuric hell mess. It is so bad, scott. Egg salad is death.
Speaker 4:I'm writing that down.
Speaker 2:That's a song Egg salad is death, is death equals death. It's horrible. There was a place paradise to go to lunch and I let it be known that there's one thing I can help stop it I can't eat. So one day I got it I ordered a chicken salad wrap right she brings that. I've been to lunch and I let it be known that there's one thing I can't stop it petition I can't eat. So one day I got, I ordered a chicken salad wrap right, she brings that. I bit into it. It was egg salad. I was hurled all over the all I could do is swallow that one fucking bite.
Speaker 1:So yeah, terry, I mean lou is that is that flynn's deli I could not have asked, I couldn't have picked a better fuck, and you make the call to start off with right off the day ph. And Dave Phillips, King of the 45s, says the same. I concur, Lou.
Speaker 2:Thank you, Dave.
Speaker 1:Big head Todd the Wet Sprocket on the live stream. Mixed tuna with egg salad for a sandwich, it's amazing. With a little mustard you should fall asleep, todd, fucking animal Lou.
Speaker 4:Was that Flynn that flint stelly?
Speaker 2:no, it was it was called the corner cafe.
Speaker 1:It was all different names on it oh, I remember that place, yeah all right I have to tell you, I gotta tell you that I could literally eat a fucking a dozen, a dozen eggs made it to a. Just give me a bowl of fucking eggs. We're not surprised. I could eat a dozen eggs made out, made into egg salad. Luke yelled over Cool hand, luke. I fucking love egg salad.
Speaker 2:I love tuna fish.
Speaker 1:Don't get me wrong, and not tuna salad. Tuna salad is a different fucking animal. Tuna salad has the chopped up celery in it, like there's a difference between getting a tuna fish sub and a tuna salad sub.
Speaker 1:Now I always have to ask. If I go to the sub shop, it says tuna salad. I'm like, does that have celery and shit in it? And they're like, yeah, it's going to be straight tuna with maybe some onion, maybe some diced onion. Every once in a while you put some pickles in that, put some pickles in your tuna. But you give me a fucking dozen hard-boiled eggs. I mash that shit up, I glop in the fucking mayo. I put extra mayo on the bread. I love it. Look, lou. Lou left the show, lou left the show.
Speaker 1:Lou put himself in the penalty box. I'm telling you, and Patty, patty loves it too, patty, as he loves it too, yeah onions too, yeah, you can put onions in egg salad. Yeah, yeah, yeah scott.
Speaker 4:You, you must love, you must love cool ham. Oh, that was that's crazy.
Speaker 1:How did they even do the prosthetic for that, for that stomach. That was he looked pregnant.
Speaker 4:I heard he really ate it.
Speaker 2:Have you read that?
Speaker 4:Someone said someone ate it.
Speaker 2:He didn't get an Oscar for that Like a Lifetime Achievement Award.
Speaker 1:I don't know All right, moving on, moving on, mark, you make the call Meatball sub and we're calling it a sub. Don't tell me a hoagie. Don't tell me a hoagie, don't tell me a fucking whatever. It's a sub.
Speaker 3:No, we say subs in New Jersey? Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1:All right, a meatball sub, a good meatball sub, or a good chicken parm sub.
Speaker 4:Mark, I'm going to go meatball because I usually get eggplant parm, so I'm going to go meatball.
Speaker 1:Eggplant is too fucking mushy in a sub it can be, it just turns to mush.
Speaker 4:I like an egg salad parm.
Speaker 2:Don't make me lose it. Don't mix the two. You do not mix the two.
Speaker 4:Lou, go get your walkman and have some uh chinese.
Speaker 1:By the way, this has nothing to do with music, but I don't care. This is just it's, it's, it's mixed relish, the whole thing. It all goes right. Uh, so lou. A meatball sub or a chicken palm sub?
Speaker 2:meatball by far I love chicken parm, but I'll take a meatball. So any day, every day chicken parm.
Speaker 4:I am a chicken parm is better as a dinner.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I I agree, I love chicken parm, so for some reason, when I do it, it's a dinner with some spaghetti I am a fucking chicken parm junkie.
Speaker 1:like it's to the point. Now, wherever go, my wife knows I have to get the chicken palm. Because I compare now, like what's the like? That's a good chicken palm, that's not a good chicken palm. People think it's just, it's a good chicken palm. Now, if this was a good chicken palm sub, the breading has a little bit of a crunch to it. It's not soggy, no, it doesn't. When you cut it it doesn't slide off the top oh, hold on hold on.
Speaker 1:Hold on, that's my wife. Hold on, let's see, hi baby, bring home milk. Hold on one sec. Are you there? Are you there? Hello, hello, there we go, are you there? Oh, she hung up on me.
Speaker 4:I'm going to call her back.
Speaker 1:She's going to hate me for this. You're in trouble, willis, here we go. Hi, beautiful, what's that? Uh-oh, hello, can you hear me?
Speaker 4:Yeah, now I can hear you what's going on.
Speaker 1:Nothing. What's up beautiful?
Speaker 2:No, I thought I realized when I called you.
Speaker 4:I'm like I thought you have like a podcast or something yeah, yeah, yeah, you're live right now hi dr vera hello there.
Speaker 3:I am so sorry to bug you guys.
Speaker 1:Oh no, this is the best part of the show. Trust me.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we're really boring tonight. Well, I am just driving home and that's it.
Speaker 3:I just wanted to let Scott know I'm on my way home.
Speaker 1:Yeah well, your dinner's on the stove. I made you some way home. Yeah well, your dinner's on the stove.
Speaker 3:I made you some Tocino.
Speaker 1:Nice and some of your rice. They just have to heat it up.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:And then you have dinner.
Speaker 3:Thank you, darling man.
Speaker 1:Tell everybody that don't. I have dinner waiting for you every night when you come home.
Speaker 3:You do have dinner waiting for me every night.
Speaker 1:Yes, I do, it's just hung up on me. Well, there you go. You're in trouble, there you go.
Speaker 2:So where were we Chicken Palm?
Speaker 1:I love a good chicken. If it's a good crispy chicken palm, I like it. I'm not arguing with a good meatball sub either. It's a good crispy chicken palm, so I I like it. Now I I'm not arguing good meatball. So either people, there's a place down here called the spotters and they make these fucking meatball subs. There's six meatballs in it. They're like. Each one of them is like almost the size of a baseball, right it's gotta be a big meatball, otherwise it's a cocktail meatball I got one one day and uh, and they make all this subs big.
Speaker 1:That's just what they're known for. They they pack in the meat the whole thing. So I order this meatball sub and he says you wanted for here to go. I said for here. And he says you're gonna eat that whole thing oh buddy, yes, I am, I'm committed, but I I, if I had a choice, I'd get a chicken palm sub.
Speaker 2:All right, moving on I make a hell of a meatball by the way you make the call.
Speaker 1:I'm sure you do a species, spicy meatball, uh mark you make the call grape, jelly or strawberry jam not preserves, because preserves wins every time. Everybody loves strawberry preserves, but strawberry jam or grape jelly.
Speaker 4:I'm going to go with strawberry jam, because I prefer grape jam to grape jelly, so I'm going to go with strawberry jam.
Speaker 1:There's really no difference, it's just the consistency.
Speaker 4:I find the jam that I buy is not as sweet as jelly.
Speaker 2:I kiss it on the lips. He's going to go into hot buttered sausage as sweet as jelly. I kiss it on the lips.
Speaker 4:What the fuck he's going to go into hot buttered sausage any second.
Speaker 2:Don't use the bullshit. I buy honey and I kiss it on the lips.
Speaker 1:Alright, you go with strawberry jam. I go with strawberry jam.
Speaker 2:What's the difference? What's the difference between jam and jelly? I'm not going to answer that question because it's filthy, I don't know, that's a tough one. Grape jelly I could care less about either one. Really, I'm going to say grape jelly just because, okay, I'm not a big jammy kind of guy.
Speaker 1:What the fuck do you put on your peanut butter?
Speaker 2:Death. Peanut butter and jelly, that's another death card this motherfucker.
Speaker 1:I could never live with you, man. What the fuck? No egg salad, no fucking peanut butter and jelly every night oh no, no, excellent, I checked.
Speaker 2:I had a roommate briefly in the early 2000s, right here, we go. I said he goes any rules. I said do not make any fucking hard-boiled eggs. I came home one day I'm like son of a bitch man I'm gonna smell it yeah, it was always. I said what did I tell you? I'm just like sorry man I'm like don't, please, don't do that don't do that.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, I gotta go with conquered grape. There's nothing better than conquered grape with a peanut butter. I love strawberry preserves, but I I got always Concord grape. Okay, just have to have it, can we?
Speaker 4:Here's a little bit here, sorry. I got something. Jelly is made using fruit juice, while jam is made using whole fruits that have been smashed or crushed. Because of this, jam can have seeds or pieces of fruit in it. I'll take the jelly.
Speaker 2:A preserve is just fruit whole with pectin, right? What's your call, is it? I call you heard me? I called you a pectin. That's the stuff that's in all those jellies and jams. That's one of the ingredients pectin, right, the professor.
Speaker 1:Look at that, the professor talking. It's a coagulant, it's a perfect in whatever the fuck he called it.
Speaker 4:Whether it's food or it's music, Lou knows it all.
Speaker 2:Look it up Pectin P-E-C-T-I-N.
Speaker 1:No, I'm not going to look it up, you know what I'm going to do.
Speaker 2:I'm going to fucking move on. Now. You trust me, we're going to move on.
Speaker 1:All, right, mark, you make the call, okay, oh? Tom Spallone he knows you're in the middle of the podcast.
Speaker 4:Now he wants to come out and play. Oh you fucker, if you're don't, don't, sit on my porch.
Speaker 1:That would be hilarious. They have fag white wines here for you, I think.
Speaker 2:Tom's got his.
Speaker 4:He's been there for a while.
Speaker 2:Tom my pinky is getting Wow, wow, white guy. This is for you, tom.
Speaker 4:All right, my back hurts.
Speaker 1:What's that dance called Lou?
Speaker 2:The White Guy Overbite. It was the White Guy Overbite dance party. I love that.
Speaker 1:All right, here we go. Mark, you make the call the white guy overbite. He drinks red Ham sandwich or turkey sandwich.
Speaker 4:Turkey. I grew up on cheap ham that had grizzle in it, and it never left me.
Speaker 1:Grizzly ham, I'm a turkey guy.
Speaker 2:Was it Gus Gristle? It was a Gus Gristle.
Speaker 4:It was shop Right Brand oh Lou was a gristly Gus.
Speaker 2:You know Mark did last week, but he made fun of what he. You know, gus Grissom, the astronaut that died in the fire and the positive Apollo one.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Mark didn't know how he died, talking about something in Mark Manson called Grizzly Gus. You've been shamed twice.
Speaker 1:Alright, lou, ham sandwich. You make the call Ham sandwich or turkey sandwich, turkey.
Speaker 2:If it's fresh turkey, yeah, if a deli has a fresh turkey off the bone sandwich. I will get it every time.
Speaker 1:I mean just fucking ordering deli here. Don't give me like I need it. What if it's not fresh?
Speaker 2:off the bone. I'll take the sliced up. The shit with the fucking coagulation.
Speaker 1:On the outside of it it's got animal pectin in it.
Speaker 2:My son worked at a soba. He goes. It smells like ass. He goes slicing turkey smells like ass.
Speaker 1:Dave Phillips, king of the 45, says turkey and Swiss. Patty says ham Patty's wrong, I'm going to have to go with. Can't beat a good fucking ham and cheese. What kind of cheese? What kind of cheese? I love white American, I'll put white.
Speaker 4:American cheese on everything that's good for egg sandwiches melted.
Speaker 1:I'd put that on tuna. Make tuna melts out of that shit.
Speaker 4:That's good, yeah, if you're're gonna melt the cheese it's gotta be american cheese.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, here we go. Mark you make the call bacon or breakfast sausage I gotta go with bacon.
Speaker 4:But I make sausage more because it's easier to make. But but bacon is better.
Speaker 1:Bacon's better than breakfast sausage. Yeah, lou.
Speaker 2:I fucking hate bacon. I like bacon I like bacon, but I love breakfast sausage.
Speaker 1:Yeah, good breakfast. Sausage Jones makes a good.
Speaker 4:Tommy Maloney.
Speaker 1:You, you ever have tommy maloney, if it's homemade, if it's like fresh made, yeah right you know, I put uh, I I put um breakfast sausage like uh, jimmy dean's like the tube yeah, put that in my stuffing in my stuffing at thanksgiving.
Speaker 1:Beautiful, beautiful. Yeah, I cook the fucking. I put like a it's almost like a stick of butter in this. Then I get some some onions and I get them in there, cook them in the butter, then I put the sausage in there and I get it all mixed up. Then I add some some syrup to that get that all mixed up over here.
Speaker 1:I got the chicken broth right. Yeah, and I'm a chicken stock and I make the. I boil it with butter and I put the stuffing in there. Once it gets good, I dump the. Oh, put it all together. That shit is the bomb. Then you put fresh diced onion in there. That's a masterpiece, right there that is a key ingredient to the luther.
Speaker 2:By the way, key ingredients to the luther, and, but you don't make the luther with a ham, though that's a turkey sandwich I've added ham to it. Sometimes I'll put have you really, yeah, yeah, if you see some pictures, you'll see a little piece of ham hanging okay, okay, so I am thanksgiving.
Speaker 4:Ham, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah I'm gonna have to go with.
Speaker 1:It's hard to beat bacon, it's hard to be big. I mean I hey listen, I like good breakfast.
Speaker 4:It smells good when you make it. You know everything yeah, now.
Speaker 1:Now, okay, there's levels of bacon, though you can get crispy bacon, you can get a little bit burnt. Some people like their bacon a little burnt right, a little extra crispy. Then there's them crazy motherfuckers that eat the fucking rubber bacon like it's not cooked all the way and it's okay, you know you can't hold it up, you have to hang it like a
Speaker 2:dead body I don't think you get trichinosis from that anymore, though, but that was the thing back in the day yeah there's people like bacon.
Speaker 4:You get worms and stuff yeah, I remember when, when microwaves first hit big and everybody was microwaving everything, there were people that microwaved bacon. It was like gray.
Speaker 2:I'm like, by the way, uh tom, for breakfast he has prunes, he prefers prunes, so it keeps them regular yeah, I'm gonna take um you know, the down south bacon is it's everything, it is everything you know what might be the greatest bacon ever made, what I love you?
Speaker 1:sizzling. Remember sizzling, it was square, it was square right.
Speaker 2:Do you remember that? Processed bacon yeah sizzling, yeah, sizzling.
Speaker 1:It was square, like it's, like fucking pringles. Potato chips are not supposed to be the same fucking shape. It's, it's. It's literally impossible to have potato chips to say real potato, the same shape. Now the sauce does it. Yeah, right, I think they call them crisps. Now I think they stopped calling them potatoes. Oh, really, really, I think it says crisps on them and they never. Really, they used to call them potato chips.
Speaker 2:In England they call potato chips crisps.
Speaker 4:Yeah, did you ever make your own potato chips?
Speaker 1:No, but I've been at restaurants that make it. They're ugly when you make them.
Speaker 4:They look horrible, but they taste so good.
Speaker 2:But they're almost shapen and you know that's what it's so good, but they're all misshapen Like they're supposed to be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we have a potato chip shop in Asheville. Wow, it is so good. Okay, dangerous place. All right, here we go. Mark, you make the call. You make the call Mashed potato. Oh, allison Lundy, mark's sister, said Lou has ruined turkey. You've ruined turkey for her. How did I do that? The smell, I think, yeah, I think you said it smells like ass and I said it has the coagulation on the outside of it when they take it out of that bag at the deli that's right it's got that slippery shit on it.
Speaker 1:Where does that come from?
Speaker 2:by the way that comes from the pectin. It's pectin. It's like gonna take a corned beef out of the sack. It looks like. It looks like you just gave birth.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that afterbirth comes out and it clogs up your drain the corned beef afterbirth and it has the same fucking consistency as that too, I had to tense it.
Speaker 2:I almost wrapped it up in a towel and held it. Forgot to cook the damn thing, hey baby.
Speaker 1:There you go.
Speaker 2:What do we name it?
Speaker 1:what do we name it, baby? What do we name it? Uh, yeah, allison lenny says it was the ass remark my, my glasses aren't working.
Speaker 2:I thought she said mark's an ass in that it doesn't taste like ass, it just smells like it all right mark, you make the call.
Speaker 1:you make the call if you had a choice. If you had a choice mashed potato or stuffing and I'm not talking that fucking sodium-laced stovetop stuffing I mean, all I taste is salt with that shit but like a homemade stuffing, a good stuffing. And we're, at, say, thanksgiving or Easter's coming up. Some people do turkey or ham dinner, mashed potato or stuffing.
Speaker 4:If it was supposed to be with any meal like, not just a holiday.
Speaker 1:So you're talking about holidays Any meal, just say any meal. I know we have Easter coming up Any meal.
Speaker 4:I'm going to go with mashed potatoes because I just it goes with everything. You could have mashed potatoes with anything. I've had it with breakfast sausage yes, Breakfast or dinner Breakfast Lou.
Speaker 2:I yes. Breakfast or dinner, breakfast, breakfast, yeah, lou, I love stuffing all kinds of stuff I've not been a stuffing I don't like. I I associate with it with a specialty meal. But mashed potatoes can go with and there's a song mashed potato.
Speaker 1:There's no song called stuffing uh, so what's your pick mark? I lou, yeah, I'd be confused. What's the?
Speaker 2:pick. What's the pick? What's the pick? Mashed goddamn potatoes, scott.
Speaker 1:Mashed potatoes, okay, mashed potatoes Mashed, goddamn potatoes, scott.
Speaker 3:What my goddamn potatoes? Goddamn it.
Speaker 1:Mashed potatoes. I have to go with stuffing. I'm a stuffing junkie.
Speaker 4:I fucking love stuffing. I love it. I do too. I love it. I'm trying to find this. You don't like those French fried potatoes?
Speaker 1:Trying to find this song that somebody sent me. It was fucking hilarious. He posted it on my wall. I don't know if I can come up with this on his thing. It's like sometimes I don't understand Facebook. They can post something on your wall, but then when you go to look at theirs, it's not there.
Speaker 4:Right, Because it came from two weeks ago. That's why.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to find this. This is fucking hilarious. I'm going to figure out which one he put it on, because I have two. I'm always hiding from Facebook police. Maybe not on this one, all right, let me find the other one. And while we're doing that, did Lute just change his shirt or something? I?
Speaker 4:went all drab. He saw my shirt and he said, hey, Mark's got a style of shirt on All right Mark, you make the call.
Speaker 1:All right, Apple Jacks or Captain Crunch. Apple Jacks or Captain Crunch.
Speaker 4:Captain Crunch will get you high tonight, captain Crunch.
Speaker 1:All right, I'm going to stop the show right here.
Speaker 4:I got to play this fucking song. See, I stopped the show with my answer.
Speaker 2:I just can't stop.
Speaker 3:I'd really like to get in your pants because I got shit in mine. I just can't stop ruining all of these pants. I'm just shitting, and shitting and shitting and I ain't ever quitting Trying to get in your pants because I keep fucking shitting in mine.
Speaker 4:I don't think you'll get a copyright claim on that one.
Speaker 1:Fucking hilarious.
Speaker 3:I just can't stop ruining all of it.
Speaker 1:I can't turn this off.
Speaker 2:I can't fucking shit in my pants. Eat the egg salad.
Speaker 1:It's all about the egg salad.
Speaker 3:Alright, that's just a little break in the action there for a little shit in the pants action, so Apple Jacks or Cap'n Crunch.
Speaker 2:Cap'n Crunch. I'm sorry, I thought you thought Mark already answered. Both of you, yeah, both of you Cap'n Crunch. I love Cap'n Crunch.
Speaker 1:Then you must have a rubber seal on the fucking roof of your mouth, because that shit is made of fucking razor blades. I a clef.
Speaker 2:I have a clef palette. Because of that thing, I can stick my fingers up in my sinuses.
Speaker 1:I used to be sure it wasn't all that cocaine I got no septum the booger sugar watch.
Speaker 4:I can. I can take my nose off and put it back on I I have a recipe.
Speaker 2:It's buffalo. I know it's cap'n crunch crusted buffalo chicken tenders I've seen that.
Speaker 1:I've seen people do that. Yeah, it's really good. It's really got a sweetness to it.
Speaker 4:I would assume it's sweetness yeah, yeah, it's crunchy, but interesting uh, I, I I apple jacks. I love apple jacks never liked apple jacks really, and my mom used to buy it.
Speaker 2:She's going to toast the Apple Jacks. Drink the milk afterward.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Drink the milk after every cereal.
Speaker 2:I eat Apple Jacks have those little pointy red rocks on them, right? Yeah, Apple Jacks has little pointy red rocks.
Speaker 1:That's how your record comes up pretty well too. It built it, dude. No see the way Cap can, captain crunch actually over the years got smaller. Those motherfuckers made it really small. Yeah, they used to be big, like bigger uh uh chunks, but uh, that shit is just like. You can hold it in your fingers and feel how fucking sharp that is yeah, what do you think of crunch berries?
Speaker 2:when crunch berries came?
Speaker 1:along I never bought into it I like the crunch berries, just gonna take, going to take it, all right.
Speaker 4:What's your favorite cereal Scott from your youth. What was your favorite? Oh?
Speaker 1:shit. Well, it's right up behind me, right there.
Speaker 4:Count Chocolate was good, you get chocolate milk afterwards, yeah, yeah. Mine was Lucky Charms Cocoa Puffs so Cocoa Puffs Same thing. So Lucky Charms. Had afterwards, yeah, yeah, mine was lucky charms cocoa puffs so cocoa puffs same thing, so lucky charms. Had the little marshmallow in it that was so good, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, they were all good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cocoa puffs um pure sugar yeah, yeah, frosted flakes, sugar pops, sugar pops, sugar pops yeah, they weren't my favorite because they had kind of a weird system when you bite into it. It wasn't crunchy.
Speaker 2:It's like packing peanuts. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:But they had that nice gold sugary coating on the outside.
Speaker 2:As I got older, I liked Quaker natural cereal. It was like granola. It was supposed to be good for you. It was full of sugar, though.
Speaker 1:None of it was good for you.
Speaker 4:You know what you just brought back a childhood memory.
Speaker 2:This is supposed to be.
Speaker 4:The severe Saturday morning sugar buzz that I didn't realize I had in Saturday morning cartoons.
Speaker 2:Oh, hell yeah, that was the best.
Speaker 4:I was jumping around.
Speaker 1:Now a good example of what you just said the cereal. This might have been one of my favorites super sugar crisps yeah right, super sugar crisps with the bear sugar, bear right and all of a sudden all of a sudden they were like, yeah, well, uh, we have to take the word sugar out of these cereals because, uh, yeah, the parents aren't really digging it and they're catching on. Like his kids, teeth started rotting out of their heads right, so they took sugar out of the names.
Speaker 1:So then it just was super crisp and then it just turned to crisps. Yeah, but all those, go back and look at all those cereals that had the name sugar in them. Super sugar pops, yeah Right, sugar pops, right. Then they turn them to corn pops. You hear that.
Speaker 2:Corn pops? Yeah, no, it's not the train.
Speaker 4:It's a firehouse, I think.
Speaker 1:Tom did some sugar smacks. Yep, yep, sure Okay, all right, here we go.
Speaker 4:Mark, you make the call White toast or wheat toast. At this point in my life, wheat toast, I do like wheat bread.
Speaker 3:Kill me for it.
Speaker 4:I like 12-grain bread too. I do too.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So white toast or wheat toast, I would take wheat over.
Speaker 1:Unless you're at Waffle House. We know it, you're at Waffle House.
Speaker 4:We know it goes on at Waffle House.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, you were in a low when you're going there, buddy. I love the Waffle House here it was my first taste of Southern hospitality.
Speaker 1:I got to go with white toast Fucking white toast with butter. If I'm eating fucking breakfast which I'm a breakfast animal like I'm ordering an omelet with home fries and fucking I want a side of corned beef hash. I want a side of fucking biscuit and gravy like I when I it's my favorite meal of the day, I fucking and I want white toast with butter and bacon.
Speaker 4:I'll tell you what I've been in diners where they take my order and you're supposed to get toast with your you know. So they'll give me the eggs, the big sausage, home fries, everything, and then I don't get the toast. I'm like is there toast? And they'll go. No, I'm never coming back to that diner Gotta have some sort. Home fries Same thing yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, Mark. You make the call Tomato juice. Yes or no? Tomato juice?
Speaker 4:I'll say yes.
Speaker 2:I'm okay with it. All right, lou.
Speaker 1:No, you know, I have to ask. Drink some marinara?
Speaker 2:We'll order down some marinara and drink it. We'll order down some ketchup. It's the same fucking thing.
Speaker 4:V8's good, I like V8.
Speaker 2:V8's horrible. I don't like vegetable juices. Don't stick a celery stalk in it.
Speaker 1:It doesn't help Me and Patty we'd be good to go out to breakfast and dinner together because we're on the same page on everything she'd be. She'd be an easy date to hey where do you want to go to eat? Wherever you want to go? She might have said yes to the tomato juice. Yeah, and so do I. All right, I put, I put pepper in mine. Yeah, I always shake a little pepper into my tomato juice.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Remember the Sacramento tomato juice commercial with the cool song yeah, that's right. Sacramento tomato, tomato, tomato juice. Perry played it before one of our shows. It's a cool song, man. Yeah, yeah, listen to the flavor.
Speaker 1:All right, final one one mark. Yeah, you have a choice. All right, you go out, you get a burger. You want french fries or onion rings. French fries, french fries. You said that with authority.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah. I need rings. Give me a heartburn for them. I don't know the reflux.
Speaker 2:And when they're all rubbery. It's like you're eating worms, Every little onion ring he eats. Lou French fries or onion rings. I love onion, onion rings. I'll eat french fries with anything, on anything, anything french fries, huh, french fries with mayonnaise.
Speaker 4:Oh it's good.
Speaker 1:I don't like, I don't like stringed onion rings, the fucking ones that are like kind of loose oh well, it comes, it comes out of the.
Speaker 2:uh yeah, it comes right out of the batter. It's just like really thin. Yeah, I need some good thick, like.
Speaker 1:if they have really good like thick onion rings, right, let me see Big Head Todd the Whip Rocket said they have to be good onion rings. It's easy to screw them up. It's like calamari right, you can screw up calamari really easy.
Speaker 4:I love calamari.
Speaker 1:But I got to go with onion rings. You know who has good fucking onion rings and you're going to fucking laugh at me. Burger King, I love the Burger King.
Speaker 2:You know what's weird? They're all the same size. What did I just say about?
Speaker 4:potato chips, they're all the same fucking size. Does that mean the onion they cut is shaped like a can? I don't know? Yeah, it's shaped like a fucking banana.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's shaped like a fucking banana. Yeah, they're all the same size, so I'm assuming it's probably not real onion. Not that I eat there a lot, I don't know the last time I ate there.
Speaker 4:You know what they do Because I know someone who works in Friendly's. Hard-boiled eggs came in a tube this long and you just sliced it, and so the onions are all chopped up and put in a tube. It is the horror.
Speaker 1:He just gave you hot boiled eggs in a tube.
Speaker 4:Yes, that's what they do. That's how they served it. You cut it and then you served it to the people.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't know, that's all that I have for this.
Speaker 4:Dave has it right Fries and onion rings on a burger.
Speaker 1:Sure Onion rings on the burger. Yeah, I'll take that. I like a good French fry. Do you like the regular French fries or the steak fries?
Speaker 4:I used to like steak fries. Lately I'm just liking the shoestring fries.
Speaker 2:I'm still liking smaller.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I like a steak. They get a little too mealy, a little too doughy or whatever you know start they could be greasy if they're not done right, they can be a little greedy.
Speaker 1:What about?
Speaker 2:what about curly fries like arby's?
Speaker 1:yeah I don't have any problem with any of them, really, they just have to be cooked well enough. Exactly, they have to have a little bit of a crunch to it, like a little bit of. But I've had steak fries a restaurant. They're like it's like just eating a potato mush, yeah, yeah, and you get thirsty and yeah, yeah, I still say mcdonald's needs to go back to the old recipe even though it wasn't real potato, and you could, you know, I, I did this experiment one time, though there was that uh, what, what was the?
Speaker 1:um, the documentary that that guy did? Uh, ohersize me, he put the burgers underneath the glass domes. The real burger just kind of deteriorated. The Donald's burger stayed the same. How long?
Speaker 4:did it last. It went on for a while.
Speaker 1:You saw recently, when I put the Big Mac and the Whopper together, right, and I ate it. I did a live stream, right, and I ate it. It was during the day, right? So what I did was I had to take the bread out from the middle of the Big Mac and I took the buns off the top, I put it in the Whopper because the Whopper's bigger right, yeah, right. And so I have these three pieces of bread or two pieces of bread, I think, were left. So I have to eat everything. So I ate the bread first, and if you've never eaten McDonald's buns on their own, they have a real fucking strange consistency. Yes, I never know. I don't eat that shit a lot. I, every once in a while I'll delve.
Speaker 1:I went like six years without touching any of it um every once in a while I break down what the hell, but I ate. I wanted to do something. You know I love my food challenges, right so and I ate this bread and it's on the last stream. I'm like this is hard to chew, like, and it really was a different fucking consistency than regular bread. That's why it's styrofoam, that's why it lasts so long right.
Speaker 1:So when I used to work canine in us customs we kept our dogs. They didn't come home with us. We had a kennels that we kept them at a local kennel and I had had some french fries in my canine vehicle and it's like this dirt parking lot and a fence and we go into the facility, we go in the kennel and get our dog and come out and break it and the whole thing and I dropped these french fries on the ground and this is in a fucking dirt parking lot in the summertime in Florida and I came back every day for I don't know how long a week and they looked exactly the same. I'm fucking not making this up.
Speaker 1:They looked exactly the same If I had a cell phone like these back then. So we're talking early 2000s. Iphone was like the little iPhone back then and I had a Razr and I had a Razr, I had a Razr, I loved it. I had that too. I loved it. That was a great phone. So you couldn't really get a good picture out. But I swear I went for like 10 days and then something came and ate them but they never fucking changed and they're in the sun. This wasn't even in the shade. They're like we're fucking eating this shit.
Speaker 2:Ever fumble on the seat of your car? It's the same thing. So there you go.
Speaker 1:Everybody has had that experience. Everybody's had that experience. Dave Phillips, king of the 45, says I had calamari last night from a Chinese place Never miss Chinese in Italian Dave, let's stop right there it was outstanding Very light batter.
Speaker 4:I think it could be good. They make good chicken nuggets in chinese places.
Speaker 1:It's the peanut oil they use. What the fuck you eating chicken nuggets at a chinese restaurant oh, they use peanut oil.
Speaker 4:Man what?
Speaker 1:fucking what? What trailer park do you live in? They?
Speaker 4:always love for it because the parents get the chinese food and the kids want chicken nuggets. That's why they put it on the menu and you eat them. I've had them. They're good. Peanut oil is fucking great.
Speaker 1:We've all picked it at our kids' plates and Lou and Lou went out the other night. I'm sure Lou picked off his son's plate.
Speaker 2:We had the same thing.
Speaker 4:It's great with.
Speaker 2:Chardonnay yeah, we had fried pickle spears. Oh, I love them. We had fried pickle spears. Oh, I love them.
Speaker 1:We are so far off music right now. We have never mentioned so far off. Maybe we should do a food podcast, do it. Maybe we should do a food podcast. I'll add it to the other podcast. I'll just do one every night.
Speaker 2:I could go for an ass-smelling turkey sub right now.
Speaker 1:You are an ass-smelling turkey sub and I could go for a nice fucking egg salad, some extra mayo, the mayo can only help that stuff, man.
Speaker 4:Yeah my, my son right now is making bratwurst with um. I think what kind of fries he's making.
Speaker 1:We picked them out, but I'm gonna have a good dinner when I go downstairs and you know what we have to do, gentlemen, we have to have this year, this year we have to make a conscious effort to fucking meet somewhere. Yeah, yeah, like finally meet in real life.
Speaker 4:Yeah, like, not live stream life it's got to be filmed and put on your we'll go to a bar and we'll all get in line and do the fucking white man or the white overbite dance that's when new world man from rush comes on we can meet in nashville.
Speaker 1:We can meet in nashville.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean, that's kind of in the middle my daughter is four hours away in atlanta. Yeah, she is. That's a place to be.
Speaker 1:Why don't we make it when, when the shit's right and you guys get to see me? I'm retired, I can do whatever I want. I'll drive down, I jump in my car and just drop there and I'll be in Asheville. Oh, look at this, motherfucker, just when the show was supposed to be on. It's Jack Gallabreeze. Hey, look at this.
Speaker 3:Hey guys, look at this. Hey guys, hey jack look at this intro.
Speaker 2:Jack's back enough of that.
Speaker 3:Enough of that. How are you guys good? What's going on, man?
Speaker 1:not too much. Can you hear me, okay? Yes, yeah you. You you're not using your real mic, right? Right, it's right here, as usual, it's too far away, see nothing changes. Yes, that's better. Yeah, that's right, all right. So let's see Me and Jack. We have our yearly argument he's leaving already. He's leaving already. I win. See I win Time for a tuna sandwich. Jack, don't come back with a tuna sandwich. See we can't hear you.
Speaker 3:You can't hear me at all.
Speaker 1:Now we can. Microphone's 10 feet away from you.
Speaker 3:Hold on, let me make sure that I have my audio all set up here. Just give me a second Talk amongst yourselves. Yeah, don't worry about us, Jack, Don't worry about you. Know, just Talk amongst yourselves.
Speaker 1:We've been doing that for the last hour and a half.
Speaker 3:I think I'm starting to bore Scott, it turned into a food show tonight. Oh, my God, Jack do you like egg salad Jack. I love egg salad. Yeah, oh boy, I'm all alone.
Speaker 2:I'm all alone I love egg salad.
Speaker 3:Lou is all alone.
Speaker 2:Do you have any in the house right now?
Speaker 3:I do not, but you know what.
Speaker 2:Strangely enough.
Speaker 3:We do have eggs in the house. Have you ever gone?
Speaker 1:to a deli and saw egg salad and it's like fucking $12 a pound. Oh yeah, like what the fuck? I know I'm going to go buy some eggs for like six and boil them and add some mayo, and I just saved $6.
Speaker 3:Hello, dave Phillips and Patricia Woo-hoo, look it, look it, there's been a surge.
Speaker 2:There's been a surge.
Speaker 1:Alright, so let's have a Jack. And I talked last week and he wasn't sure if he was coming on. That's why I didn't mention it. I didn't. I actually forgot about him. Oh, come on, I forget, I I forgot until he showed up and oh yeah, he's supposed to come on anyway. So, uh, we every year that that we've been since the inception of this podcast, jack and I have Rock and Roll Hall of Fame announcements, the nominees right, and very few times we agreed on the majority of them right. So I'm going to name them off, jack, and you tell me yes or no. Okay, can you follow that? Is this a little high? I know it's. Is this a little?
Speaker 1:I know it's been a while, I know it's been a while see, we can't hear you again you're kidding me you sound like you're in a fucking a shipping container. No, I can hear mark pouring wine over your voice.
Speaker 4:It actually sounds like a bad MP3. You know, when MP3 isn't sampled right and it gets muffled, it might be the connection. Let's see.
Speaker 3:It's the issues. I don't know what the issue is.
Speaker 1:All right, we can hear you enough right there. Hello, how's that, is that?
Speaker 3:better, that's better.
Speaker 1:There you go. I don't know what the issue is. All right, we can hear you enough right there. Hello, hello, hello. Yeah, how's that? Is that better? That's better. There you go.
Speaker 3:So you got to have this thing right next to you. Stick that mic right in your mouth.
Speaker 1:Stick it right in your mouth. Where'd Lou go? I don't know. Lou saw a moment to take a break. Oh, no, yeah, yeah, he's back.
Speaker 3:He went to get an egg salad sandwich. Lou, what is that behind you? Is that a painting? Hold on. Now ask him Lou, is that a painting behind you?
Speaker 2:Yes, I have two of them. These are oil paintings I did when I was about 11. Can you hold it up to the camera? I'd love to see it. This pales in comparison to your work, chuck.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but you were 11. He was 11, yeah.
Speaker 2:And the guy who took lessons from him was a fucking weirdo.
Speaker 1:What a weird guy.
Speaker 2:He was a weirdo he was a weird dude and I got another one.
Speaker 1:What's the other one? That's not bad for 11.
Speaker 3:Are you kidding me? That's really good for 11.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Thank you.
Speaker 1:Looks like a leaning tower of pizza, but okay.
Speaker 3:No, I can see that he was contemplating puberty at that point.
Speaker 2:There was some kind of phallic thing going on. I don't know why Absolutely there?
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:I've lost any ability to draw. I hear you, if you don't use it, you'll lose it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but it doesn't take long to get it back. You just got to do it a little bit, yeah.
Speaker 2:All right, here we go, jack, I'm too busy doing podcasts.
Speaker 1:Now I'm going to name off the first one yes or no? Mary J Blige.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 2:Yes. I agree, we got to hear the rest of them.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, I agree, we got to hear the rest of them right, and I'll give you a chance to go back Now. They're not taking all of them, but this is actually a very interesting list. I found this a pretty good list. There's some good argument to be made on both sides. Yeah, let's keep rolling.
Speaker 3:I mean enough with the pontificating. Can you just give me the goddamn list.
Speaker 1:This motherfucker, the king of fucking pontification, this motherfucker. I don't miss the days where Jack would go whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, no, let me pontificate over this. So and he would go into these fucking diatribes of like, just fucking, I'm like, oh God.
Speaker 3:Scott, can you do me a favor and could you please give me the definition of diatribe?
Speaker 1:Yeah, when Jack used to be on milk crates and turntables. That's the fucking definition. That's the definition. It's actually a visual too. We should go to the video for it scott.
Speaker 3:Scott's perspective of the definition of diatribe is when all the indians passed away.
Speaker 4:Oh that.
Speaker 1:We miss that, I miss this, all right. So you say yes, okay, uh, mariah Carey.
Speaker 3:I you know what Listen.
Speaker 4:I am going to pontificate.
Speaker 3:No no no, no, I'm, I'm. I'm not a huge Mariah mariah carey fan, but you know she's had a long career. But but here's, here's the point that I'll make that almost anybody that you name now should be welcome to the rock and roll hall of fame, because they, they've, they've lost their standards a long time ago. Yeah, yeah, you know, I mean it's, it's not, it has nothing to do with rock and roll anymore. It's popular music and they want to sell tickets to the damn museum and have viewers.
Speaker 4:So, yeah, sure it's all about money okay it's all about money.
Speaker 1:Yep, I mean, you have to say yes to mariah carey before mary j blige. Mariah carey's a fucking monster. She owned the 90s. She has the most popular Christmas song ever.
Speaker 3:How many songs has Mariah Carey written?
Speaker 1:It's not how many she's written, it's how many she's fucking brought to number one. Look at her fucking track record.
Speaker 3:And I get that. I mean, Sinatra didn't really write songs and Elvis didn't really write songs. Yeah, Go ahead.
Speaker 1:Who's the next one? The next one, the next one, of course? Another female, because this is what they do now.
Speaker 3:Wait a minute. Hold on a second. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
Speaker 1:You know it's coming.
Speaker 3:Are you insinuating that they're making room for the women right?
Speaker 1:now? Yes, I think they're squeezing them in.
Speaker 3:So you don't think that Mariah Carey or Mary J Blige, who's the next?
Speaker 1:one you want to vote for. I say no to Mary J Blige. I say yes to Mariah Carey.
Speaker 3:All right, keep going. Who's the next one, cher, okay, Be careful now.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? Be careful, don't be fooled by the name no, no, no, not look, not for nothing.
Speaker 3:If you're talking about the rock and roll hall of fame, cher is more rock and roll than Mariah Carey or Mary J Blige.
Speaker 1:Long, long history, you know, edgy incredible career long, long history of what cherokee people she had some of the biggest 70s cheese ever. If it wasn't for that TV show she would not be on fucking the radio.
Speaker 3:Have you ever heard the song Octopus's Garden? Is that kind of cheesy it is.
Speaker 1:That is a fucking cheesy song.
Speaker 3:It is a very cheesy song. That is cheesy. Look, if you're considering Mariah Carey or Mary J Blige, you got to put Cher in there. Well, I said.
Speaker 1:Mariah Carey has more hits than Cher. She sold more records than Cher. Cher left the music industry and came back with this that if we could turn back time with that fucking. She doesn't have an ass. She has a lower back with a crack in it in that fucking video.
Speaker 3:This show has turned into something different.
Speaker 2:There's just a lot of Blame those two, jack, blame those two. Oh no, no, no, no, I don't know.
Speaker 3:Look, you have to not admit but acknowledge, like in this country, cher is an icon.
Speaker 1:She's an icon because she had a TV show Sunny and Cher, which is an iconic 70s.
Speaker 4:TV show and she had a hugely she did. And Cher, which is an iconic 70s TV show, she did.
Speaker 1:Moonlight. She did the fucking movies. She did a couple movies. She was good. She was fucking Rocky. What's his name's mother In Mask? Rocky Dennis? I dated a girl that looked like him one time. That didn't work.
Speaker 3:I think I dated that girl too. I think I dated that girl too Same girl. I think I dated that girl. It had something to do with the shape of her mouth.
Speaker 1:Wow, this show has changed. It's changed. We can't go back to the way you did it, but share it music-wise.
Speaker 3:I thought I was coming here to help kind of perpetuate the culture.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 3:Jack, thank you. Are we being broadcast on Fox News what?
Speaker 1:the hell is going on here. So I mean music-wise. What has she done since fucking Turn Back Time and that?
Speaker 4:was in 84?. Wait a minute.
Speaker 3:Are you telling me that Cher's music is any more or less cheesy than Mariah Carey's?
Speaker 1:I would say it's cheesier than Mariah Carey has some pretty good fucking songs. She has a better voice too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but it's not about the voice. She doesn't have exactly the greatest voice in the world. David doesn't have the greatest voice in the world. You know what share falls. It's not about the voice. Is it about the voice? Is that what you're telling me?
Speaker 1:say say the word voice one more time, because you just snuck it in like four times and like just does tom wait? Oh, wait a minute. Did we lose jack's mic? Is your audio there, jack? Oh?
Speaker 4:You silenced him.
Speaker 1:Did you mute me? No, you muted yourself. You were faking it, I was faking it. You know what? Cher falls into the Dolly Parton category. It's all that. That's the same fucking. What about the mid-60s?
Speaker 3:Is not talented.
Speaker 1:No, I'm saying. Dolly Parton herself said I don't belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3:But Dolly Parton more than likely belongs in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame because of a crit.
Speaker 2:She doesn't.
Speaker 3:And look, I'll do that based upon the premise or the theory that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is not the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame anymore.
Speaker 1:How the fuck could Cher get in over Glen Campbell? She's more.
Speaker 4:Rock and Roll than Glen.
Speaker 3:Campbell.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'd say so.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know I mean, but Glen Campbell was I mean his track record he was a badass. And he's not in, but they want to put Cher in there. They want to put Mary J Blige in there. This is how I hold it. I'm like if you're not letting these people in like Gordon Lightfoot or you know you can get on the line. America should go in before Mary J Blige.
Speaker 4:Well, they always want to put an R&B singer in. And remember, you asked me the same thing and I agreed with Mary J Blige. And when you asked me about Mariah Carey, I love Mariah Carey, I love some of her songs, but I said no because I thought Mary J Blige was more legitimate to be in. But this is why the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame sucks, because look what we're debating. Like one minute we're debating, they have more sales. Next minute we're debating, they have a better voice. You know, no one's going to agree on this stuff.
Speaker 1:Jack, put your Morrissey glasses back on.
Speaker 3:I was just like. These are like readers when I paint.
Speaker 1:See, I knew Jack was a Morrissey fan.
Speaker 2:I'm sure he had at least 40 decades of constant activity 40?
Speaker 1:What did she do?
Speaker 3:in the 90s and 2000s. Wait a minute.
Speaker 2:She made movies, she did music.
Speaker 1:Movies that go in the fucking actors' hall.
Speaker 2:The string hits with Sonny and Cher. If it wasn't for Sonny, cher would be nothing, the fucking actors. The string hits with sunny, sunny and share. I mean, we are sunny and sharing the rock.
Speaker 1:Hey, if it wasn't for sunny share would be nothing okay I think the other way around but I'm only kidding.
Speaker 2:Well, no, she was the talent. She was the talent listen it wasn't arranging the producer and the songwriter all right, listen, listen, not for nothing.
Speaker 3:You can, you can pick on, share all you want, but she's been in the spotlight for what?
Speaker 1:50 years, 40 she hasn't been in the spotlight in 20 years you know, no what are you talking about?
Speaker 3:she has not been in the spotlight in 20 years.
Speaker 1:It's a christmas she she's got a.
Speaker 2:Everybody does a fucking christmas song. Did you hear it? No, it was horrible. She did it? No, it was pretty horrible.
Speaker 3:I think the one thing that we can all agree upon is the credibility of the selection of who gets in and who doesn't in the Rock Hall of Fame is largely flawed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's lost its way.
Speaker 3:There are a lot of people that should be in that are not in. There are a lot of people that are in that you could make the argument that, carly simon, oh god, we're going down that road, the go-go's, the go-go's. So you just seem to have a problem with women. I mean, I know, I know that it's been a long road of you being turned down by women for many, many decades, almost as long as Cher's career 40 decades.
Speaker 1:Well, I've turned down more women than they've turned down me, bitch. All right, let's move on. This is an interesting one for you, Jack, and I know you're a big fan. Dave Matthews Band.
Speaker 3:Dave Matthews should absolutely be in the rock and roll hall of fame based on take your pick. Um, you know a big songwriter. A lot of albums, a lot of albums sold uh many tours. He was the number one grossing concert artist of the 2000s. He's got the longevity, he's got the fan base. He's still selling out places left and right. His fan base is absolutely, absolutely huge. He's played with everybody. So he's played with 30 years. He's been around right 30, oh, probably more than that. Um, so, wait a minute.
Speaker 2:He has an xm channel.
Speaker 1:First time I heard him was probably I think it was 97, 96, 97 was the first time has anybody on this show right now actually seen him live no, and I want to.
Speaker 4:I have a bunch of his dvds. I've seen him live on dvd mark.
Speaker 1:If you, if you went to see him, what would you say?
Speaker 4:he, he's incredible live, from what I've seen, he is amazing live.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he is. I have no problem with. Look, I'll give you one of the reasons why I think that he is a credible artist. So I see him pretty much every year. He comes to Guilford, new Hampshire all the time. So last year my son and I we went both nights. So between the two nights he played 54, 55 songs repeated zero. Wow, he repeated zero. Yeah, I mean a band that can pull that off right yeah, they, they, they do they.
Speaker 3:They have a couple of repeats, like they always play, like you're never going to see a pearl jam show where they don't play a live.
Speaker 1:And that's fine. That's a fan favorite, yeah.
Speaker 3:It's just, you know, it's the crescendo. No, no, jeremy, not every show, not every show, but a live is a consistent song every show.
Speaker 1:That's what broke them. That song is the one that shot them into the to the main it's, it's.
Speaker 3:It's the one thing that leads them to like the encore and it's the one thing that they know that it gets everybody off their feet. It's like you, too. Like you too, they mix up their, their set list and they don't, but they always, always, always, always play where the streets have no name.
Speaker 1:I remember I saw them in Arizona. I never saw them do a faster version of I Will Follow than at fucking Sun Devil Stadium. It's like they wanted to get it over with Same here at Giant Stadium. I saw them on the.
Speaker 4:Joshua Tree Tour. They played like a punk band Played a little faster than usual, but it's a fan favorite.
Speaker 3:By the way. I don't know if we've talked about this, but I was out at this fair and saw you two out there.
Speaker 1:We haven't talked about it because you haven't been on the show in three months, so how could we have talked about this?
Speaker 3:You know, maybe you should invite me from time you forgot me tonight.
Speaker 1:This month. This was planned. By the way this planned and how he's playing the victim card, what is wrong with you?
Speaker 3:What happened to you. Please come and give me a hug.
Speaker 4:I'm a victim of Scott. You sound like a liberal Victim of Scott.
Speaker 1:You're a victim of Scott. I torture these two, Jack. I fucking torture these two.
Speaker 3:No, you just torture me. Guys, why do you come on the show anymore?
Speaker 2:this is because I I've been told I'm a pleasure to abuse do what?
Speaker 3:what happened? It's milk crates and turntables hosted by tucker, carlson and maybe I'll get five million views.
Speaker 1:We'll get him a bow tie. Maybe i'll'll get 5 million fucking downloads. All right, let's move on.
Speaker 4:Hey, can I just say something? Can I say something now? Yeah, dave Matthews had one I've said it many times One of the best film roles Otis in Winn-Dixie. He was perfect in that role.
Speaker 3:He's touring yet again this summer. If you have an opportunity, you should go see him.
Speaker 1:These guys just live. They can't settle down.
Speaker 3:They don't know what it's like to live in a fucking house. Some of these guys, I have to tell you some of the covers they play. Do yourself a favor and jump off of this shit show right now and go on to YouTube and pull up Dave Matthews' Fool in the Rain, the Zeppelin cover Unbelievable.
Speaker 4:I just jumped off.
Speaker 1:I will, I will. The rain, the zeppelin cover, unbelievable. I just jumped off yeah, I will, I will. You know it's during the summer and I'm going again. I'm gonna see them again. I'm getting my tickets tomorrow. Corn if you've never seen corn, and you get a chance to see them. I love them and I've never, seen.
Speaker 3:Of all the vegetable heavy metal bands, they are definitely the best.
Speaker 1:Go see Dave Matthews play his acoustic guitar.
Speaker 4:I like prunes. Prunes are good All right.
Speaker 1:moving on, Eric B and Rakim.
Speaker 3:The electric prunes.
Speaker 1:Too much to dream last night. Jack, you don't know enough about them, so don't make any decisions about them.
Speaker 3:I will admit that I don Jack. You don't know enough about them, so don't make any decisions about them. I will admit that I do. I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1:Eric B and Rakim, maybe not right now although. Rakim is the greatest.
Speaker 3:Yeah, early rapper, right Rapper of all time. Yeah, early rap, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's the greatest rapper of all time. Now, when youic being rocking back in the day when hip-hop broke, the dj was the main star. The rapper was just kind of the side guy. The dj was the one with the beats. He was up on above the stage, and you know and rock was actually making those beats in time like yeah now with the electronics and everything and rock him actually was, was probably the guy that flipped it and stole the show when the rapper just said they just said this guy is a fucking star.
Speaker 3:So do you think that they belong in the rock and roll?
Speaker 1:I would love to see them there, since Run DMC is in there and well, it's not. Ll Cool, j's got some award. They made it look like I think we discussed that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they made it look like he's in got he's in some other section of it. It's not really uh it's like jewish priest.
Speaker 4:They didn't really get in. They got a special award. Yeah, they're in a different section of the.
Speaker 1:I would love to see them in because they are innovators in hip-hop, they are, uh, originators. They came out with a whole different sound. Rakim was was, absolutely he. I mean rakim influenced, influenced I don't know how many fucking rappers and probably still is today, but I don't think they'll get in. I don't think they'll get in.
Speaker 3:How does Judas Priest get some special bullshit award after all?
Speaker 1:they've accomplished, yeah, and they have a gay lead singer, which you'd think the fucking Rock and Roll Hall of Fame would be like. Oh, let's let him in Heavy metal. I'm with you.
Speaker 2:I think they should be in.
Speaker 1:I think they should be in. He's intimidating looking.
Speaker 2:That's why he hasn't gotten in.
Speaker 1:He's intimidating looking.
Speaker 2:He's a big, intimidating gay guy and they don't like that.
Speaker 1:No, they're scared of that. Lou, if I said that, jack would have been like. What do you mean by that? But he's not. Why is it? I don't know? Go ahead.
Speaker 3:Jack, I'm just holding my tongue. I'm just holding my tongue, okay okay, let's move on.
Speaker 2:Here's an interesting one they're afraid of bears at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Okay okay, here's. No, it's.
Speaker 1:He's a leather a leather, leather daddy, leather daddy. Yeah, so is mark hilarious. Wait, wait, wait a minute rob halford is bald.
Speaker 3:I don't think he's a bear, I think he's an otter he has a big.
Speaker 2:He has a big beard. I don't want to know what an otter is, but tell me so my, my understanding is.
Speaker 3:My understanding is my understanding is is an otter, is is built like a bear but it's less hairy, so he's kind of like scott scotter a daddy bear.
Speaker 1:I think I have some gay friends that are in the middle of that.
Speaker 2:You know they were don't say, no, don't say you, whatever it was.
Speaker 1:And then they're like oh no, you're definitely a daddy bear.
Speaker 3:So you're not. You're not a daddy, but you are Scotter McClain, I'm right.
Speaker 1:Jack is back, everybody. Now he's in the mix now he's warmed up now, that's the jack right there not this, this, this soft thing that came on about 15 minutes ago. Jack's back. All right, this is an interesting one, jack. The next three next it gets a little more interesting. Foreigner.
Speaker 3:Absolutely, yeah, absolutely. I mean, look, you know, foreigner is classic rock. I mean, you can make the argument that they're arena or corporate rock and they're definitely one of those bands, like you know look, scott, you and I have had this conversation Like there's the Rolling Stones, the Beatles and the who, and you grew up and you knew every member and you knew everything about them. And then you had this, this period of time, you know, in the in the mid to late 70s, where we got into corporate rock and it was Mick Jones and Lou Graham and those other guys you know. Or it was Tom Schultz and Brad Delp and those other guys.
Speaker 4:Jeff Lynn.
Speaker 3:Jeff Lynn and those other guys. But at least for me, they are a truer representation of rock and roll and belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame far more than a Mary J Blige, than a Mariah Carey, than a Cher. They are rock and roll and belong in the rock and roll hall of fame far more than a mary j blige than a mariah carrie, than a share.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know they are rock and roll. They have so many great songs. Yeah, you know they've been touring. They've been touring forever, although I don't know if there's anybody in farna that was jones.
Speaker 4:That is, jones had to retire because of his heart problem or something. Lou graham just hung him up he hung the vocals vocals up.
Speaker 1:He said I'm done with music.
Speaker 3:We are coming into a period of music within the next 10 years that Styx, boston, farna, bad Company and a bunch of other bands will be touring and there will be no original members in those. It'll be like going to see the Coasters or the Temptations.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the only original is the Roadie, the original Road going to see the coasters or the temptations.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the only original is the roadie. The roadie or the avatar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the avatar that's coming.
Speaker 3:All right.
Speaker 2:Farna had the great rock and roll radio rock songs.
Speaker 1:Oh, they had a couple of anthems. Yeah, Jukebox.
Speaker 3:Era was like an anthem right, just for shits and giggles. Give, give me your top three foreign songs, and we'll start with lou dirty white boy dirty white boys.
Speaker 2:I like um. I want to know what love is. I like the. I like that great song great song um shit. I mean I like that word album because head knocker I. I just thought it was a great album yeah, yeah, yeah, awesome, there's a ton.
Speaker 3:Who's next?
Speaker 4:I'll go with Rev on the Red Line Head Games and Dirty White Boy Cool.
Speaker 3:Scott.
Speaker 1:I like from their debut album A Long, long Way from Home.
Speaker 4:Yeah right.
Speaker 1:I mean that opening riff is fucking it's just embedded and printed in my brain and whenever I hear that, I just get that album cover pops into my head because back in the day. That's what we did, right, you'd say.
Speaker 2:You'd sit there and just stare at the fucking album cover I don't know if that had prog cred earlier on that first album too yeah, yeah, what Like a stargazer.
Speaker 3:Is that the name of the tune?
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And they had Ian.
Speaker 4:McDonald in the band too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, For me. For me it's, you know, feels like the first time, believe it or not, I loved urgent. I think that's. I think that's actually a pretty good, pretty good tune, and I've always loved head games. Yeah, I only got to name one, though why did you jump me?
Speaker 1:because you take too long. Oh, I did not miss this shit.
Speaker 3:I didn't know, scott, if you're going to do a podcast you got to get into a cadence and a rhythm where you get the information and feed it so it entertains and engages the audience and keeps them enthralled and interested. Is that how you do?
Speaker 1:this, fuck, fuck. I've been missing that the whole time. I like Dirty White Boy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, dirty White Boy is.
Speaker 1:Dirty White Boy, white boy. Yeah, dirty white boy is dirty white boy and um, uh, I gotta go with um, I like jukebox hero.
Speaker 4:I like jukebox hero it just brings back good memories it's never a bad song.
Speaker 1:It's brought back good memories. We had good times back then, jack. That was kind of when we were really hitting the beginning of our prime, that early 80s you know it was at a peak, do you know?
Speaker 3:you know, what's interesting to me about about some of those bands, those corporate rock bands, is they all had that one peak album. You know, like farna was always good, but like farna four, like they were the biggest band in the world for like a half second, you know. And then, and then, um, you know like sticks, you know the uh paradise, that album, they were the biggest band in the in in the world, right, or even even even dare I say even, even, even, dare I say, even, dare I say even, dare I say, reo speed wagon, high infidelity.
Speaker 1:That was a big album.
Speaker 3:It was a monster.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was and for, and for a split for a split second.
Speaker 3:They were the band.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yep, all right, peter Frampton.
Speaker 3:Absolutely yeah, yep.
Speaker 1:All right, Peter Frampton, Absolutely Come on Humble 5, Frampton Comes Alive. That's one album, and you know what?
Speaker 3:Now listen, hear me out.
Speaker 4:It's not one album I've got to hear this because Scott played me on this one.
Speaker 1:No, this is a fucking two-record set. It's a double album. You can only name three fucking songs off that album. That's it. That's like the Saturday Night Fever soundtrack. All of a sudden. He just can't hear me. All of a sudden, this motherfucker.
Speaker 1:He's not icing you, right? No, oh, he's doing it. He's doing it on purpose. I'm learning from this. I'm watching and learning this fucking illiterate, fucking Italian, this guy oh, he can't hear me, so I can say that I heard that. Yeah, well, it's not directed at you bathroom break buddies, I'll be right back yeah, take your time, jack will be fucking fixing his fucking technical difficulties. Yeah, it would be nice if he came on and just kind of none of us mentioned double vision.
Speaker 2:I think, as far as a favorite farna song, double vision is a good song too. There's, there's a ton of them then there's. No, there weren't too many bad ones.
Speaker 1:No, it's the whole thing, no, and then they just they were very consistent.
Speaker 2:Did you see the the paul mccartney clip when he's in? I think he's in a car and he goes farner. What the fuck come on like he goes. What the fuck like? Put them in, yeah, so. So paul says they're gonna get in on that alone they'll definitely get in because they're.
Speaker 1:They're at that peak now where they are one of the original you know, this generation's old, yeah, popular, uh uh rock bands, rock and a true rock band, a true rock band, when rock was something and there was a lot of competition back then. Can you guys hear me for a second? Yeah, we can hear you. Yeah, true rock band, a true rock band, when rock was something and there was a lot of competition back then. And you guys hear me for a second? Yeah, we can hear you. Yeah, it's not the right microphone, but we can hear you, it's fine. So I was saying frampton comes alive as a double album set and you can only name three songs off that fucking album. That's not true.
Speaker 1:It's like the Saturday. Night Fever, that's not true, maybe not you, maybe not you, but for the majority of the people they only know three fucking songs off that, just like the.
Speaker 3:Saturday Night Fever. Let me finish.
Speaker 1:Whoa, whoa, whoa Let me finish. Just like Saturday Night Fever soundtrack. That's a double album, but you only know five songs off of fucking 26 songs 26 fucking songs, whatever it is on saturday night fever, you only know fucking four hello, hello, okay. So yeah, uh, the average person cannot name more than fucking three songs off of frantic. Comes alive. Can I ask you a question?
Speaker 3:yeah, that's why I'm here. How many songs do you think the average person can name off of Exile on Main Street? I don't know.
Speaker 1:But, if you look at it, it doesn't matter what you do. If you look at it, you say I know that song, I know that song, I know that song, I know that song, I know that song no-transcript alive was.
Speaker 2:I mean, where's the standing comparison as far as frampton comes alive.
Speaker 3:Made it off of three fucking songs but but listen, this all goes back to my. You know my initial point, that the rock and roll of Fame, their voting committee or whatever you want to call it. They open the floodgates. You can make the argument for anybody to be not in or in, it doesn't really matter anymore, just let everybody in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, but then you and I can't.
Speaker 3:You either have a criteria or not. So back in the Winthrop Lodge of Elks when all of a sudden they were letting in people like Tom Brady Jack. Calabrese, you might as well just let everybody in the den of intelligence there, but I'm telling you, peter Frampton his name is bigger than his success.
Speaker 1:His name is bigger than his success. The albums after Frampton come alive didn't really do much.
Speaker 4:He had a couple big hits in the 80s. He was on mtv. That's two hits in 10 years and humble pie, you gotta throw that in there. I don't.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't need no pie in the rock and roll hall of fame I don't know no who you were with beforehand.
Speaker 2:There'll be a category for all those bands at one point, those those workhorse bands that never gave up yeah, the opening band category yeah jack, this.
Speaker 1:Is it this, this one we might agree on? I I think we might be in total agreement on yes or no Jane's addiction.
Speaker 3:God damn it. Hello, hello, hello this motherfucker.
Speaker 1:How does he go in and out? And it's always when I talk to him, when he just mysteriously can't hear it anymore. I'm having technical difficulties.
Speaker 4:I kind of remember that when you pissed me off, I just got to go. I can't.
Speaker 1:Dean Farron, king of porn movies. Oh no, king of naming porn movies the porn king of porn movies. Oh no King of naming porn movies. The porn king of Australia, the porn king of.
Speaker 4:Australia. Oh, he better get off now. Dean Farron, the porn king of.
Speaker 1:Australia. I'm going to start.
Speaker 4:He's not even Australian, but he's their porn king. Is his middle name Balls?
Speaker 2:He'll never get past that Down under, doesn't it?
Speaker 1:Big Head Todd the Wet Sprocket said I'm home. Thanks for keeping me awake on the drive home. Great to see you, Jack, Great to see you as well, todd.
Speaker 3:Yeah, thank you for that. Hey, can I switch topics for a second? I know you guys love your music. Has anybody listened to the new?
Speaker 2:black crows record, yet I heard.
Speaker 1:I heard a new song, jack. It's good. The the whole record is really good. It's really. Now let's go back on something you said about a year ago. You're like they're done, the black crows are done, the brothers don't like each other. You had this. I'm only saying this. I never said that you did.
Speaker 1:You did because you said never you said this is what you said I did. You said I wouldn't go see them in concert anymore because they're not the same. This day you went through this little thing and I remembered it because they were coming around and I was like, well, I'll take Jack's advice and I won't go see them. And you were really down on them and that's why I remember distinctly, that's why I didn't go to see them. I said, all right, I listened to your advice. But now here we are, a year later. He's like fucking Black Crowes, like fucking great.
Speaker 4:You said I would never see them again.
Speaker 3:Wait a minute, hold on a second. I never said that I would never see them again. You did. I said that I didn't have an interest in seeing that tour because they were playing almost only the first album, which I think it's a fine. It's a fine record, but it's not. I wanted to hear a concert I wanted to hear you know southern harmony and musical companion.
Speaker 4:There you go yeah, I was just playing this today. Great record, yeah, well, what what I is?
Speaker 3:what I had said was it's disappointing to me that they've kind of sold out. They listened to the corporate entities and they said, look, you got to go back to your hits, the short songs, forget about the jams, kick out the rest of your band and just keep you and your brother and we'll go out and market it so we can actually filled amphitheaters. It's not the Black Crows.
Speaker 4:There's a thing now Go out and play your most popular record in its entirety.
Speaker 1:I can't stand it and charge fucking $300 for a floor seat, yeah, so just on the other side of it.
Speaker 3:I didn't say, oh my god, the Black Crows, you gotta go out and see them. All I said was their new album is really good.
Speaker 4:I'll listen to it because Louis is telling me he likes the single so I got to hear it Moving on.
Speaker 3:It's really really well done.
Speaker 4:When they want to do a good single like was it Black Friday? That's a great song, yeah, or Good Friday, I don't know, whatever it's called. They can come out with these scary good songs when they want to.
Speaker 3:It's just that. Just you know what, scott the the uh conversation that you're referencing was a reflection of my disappointment is that they they made that pivot to say, okay, we are now a corporate entity, we are now a business, we're gonna, we're gonna go back and we're to mine the hits of our first album. We're going to repackage ourselves as kind of a pop band. We're going to kick out longstanding members. We're going to forget about the jamming and the things that we absolutely love, in exchange to make money.
Speaker 1:I don't accept that fake narrative, so we're moving on.
Speaker 4:Well, listen, I know what you said. I got to tell you something. I know what you said.
Speaker 1:I gotta tell you something. I know what you said.
Speaker 3:Look, not for nothing. You can't accept it. I don't drink whiskey like you do, jack.
Speaker 1:I'm not a drinker, I remember things.
Speaker 2:As far as the Blackhawks, who's in the band now? Is it the original members or is it the Robinson brothers?
Speaker 3:It's the Robinson's brothers and a bunch of hired guns it is.
Speaker 1:That's a new record.
Speaker 3:It boils down to yeah, the new, the new.
Speaker 2:It's easy, but I I couldn't tell the difference, but I'm not the biggest fan no, and you know, and you know what not for nothing.
Speaker 3:Most people don't care, you won't yeah nobody cares. Yeah, it's those most most generally the black crows, you know you know the black crows much like foreigner or sticks or whatnot. You know, if you have the main guys in there, the rest of it it doesn't matter right, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3:Uh, jane's addiction absolutely absolutely I I believe so too, yes they, they, they did not get the credit they deserve. No, vana got got the credit of kind of breaking the hair, metal band it, but it was really jane's addiction that did it a couple years before, in my opinion yeah yeah, uh, that not nothing shocking at least, at least to me and to my wife is one of those flaws, flawless albums where there is not a bad cut on it.
Speaker 1:Yeah great album cover too. Yes, this is a no-brainer Cool and the Gang really.
Speaker 3:You gotta think about it cool in the gang.
Speaker 1:A lot of great songs now we're not talking just the 80s cool in the game, we're talking the fucking funk monsters of the 70s. Yeah, I mean, they went, they went uh pop in the 80s and they were fucking, they were popular and they had hit after, hit after, and the last band to open for Van Halen. Ah, interesting, that's quite a little interesting.
Speaker 3:They were the opening band on the entire North American tour of Van Halen's last tour In 1984? No, no, no, no, no. This was, you know, reunion, oh that.
Speaker 1:Van Halen okay. So this was no, no, no, no, this was, you know, Reunion. Oh, that, Van Halen Okay.
Speaker 3:So this was no, but it was David Lee Roth, eddie Van Halen, alex Van Halen and Wolfgang Van Halen.
Speaker 1:It's not Van Halen.
Speaker 3:Well, is Sammy Hagar Van Halen.
Speaker 1:It's Van Hagar.
Speaker 3:No, it's Van.
Speaker 1:Halen it's.
Speaker 4:Van Halen, but it's not really looked at.
Speaker 1:I mean there's people that say, okay, Sammy came in. I mean everybody has that argument.
Speaker 2:Van Halen, Mark II.
Speaker 4:I'm partial to Van Haga, I mean Van Halen.
Speaker 1:This is an interesting one, lenny Kravitz.
Speaker 3:I like Lenny kravitz do I think that that lenny's career is is worthy of being? If I were a purist and I went back to the early, early days of the rock and roll hall of fame, I don't think he's got the statistics to get into the rock and roll hall of fame. Yeah, right, and I, and I like lenny kravitz, I like him uh, after american. I don't know if you I don't know if you noticed, but lenny and I, we shared the same exact body type just a little your otters
Speaker 3:uh oasis absolutely yeah, monsters, giant monster band never, never really got there due to the extent that they should have gotten in the united states. So they were big in every, every other country in the world.
Speaker 1:It's interesting they were big in the us, they, they were. They weren't huge, but they were big enough a couple years they were big.
Speaker 3:But but tell me, did Oasis ever have a stadium tour in the United States?
Speaker 1:I was in the military so I remember that block of time I was out of the country. Let me answer that for you.
Speaker 3:No, they did not Right. Yeah, they were playing. You had a good point because my son-in-law from England.
Speaker 4:He grew up, that's his band. He grew up in england and I I told him how I lost track of them after like and he said, oh no, they were huge. Yeah, like these albums. I didn't know about like in england, they were just huge in europe they were.
Speaker 3:They were playing wembley stadium like five and six nights, you know, completely sold out, and they would come to the united states and they would play the xfinity center in mansfield, massachusetts they're big, like two years here, two, three years.
Speaker 2:They were big. They were big, but they weren't they weren't.
Speaker 3:They weren't the phenomenon that they were elsewhere, almost like queen yeah, yeah, good correlation, yeah I never knew def leppard were the hugest band in the world.
Speaker 2:at one point either, I had no idea of the level of their popularity.
Speaker 3:Oh, my God Like 83 to like 86. They were just an enormous, enormous band Dean Farron.
Speaker 1:No, lenny Kravitz's mother was on the Jeffersons, not Lenny Kravitz, roxy Roker, roxy Roker, yeah, she was married on the show. Well, actually it was kind of a real life situation. She was married to the white British guy on the show. He wasn't British, oh, he wasn't that's right, that was the neighbor.
Speaker 2:He was the older white guy.
Speaker 1:Who was he? Nobody knows who he was. And then Perry Denevich, the, the AI, welcome to the show. Maybe he'll book the sphere in Vegas.
Speaker 4:Did I get it wrong?
Speaker 2:Lenny Kravitz? Yeah, I think he's joking.
Speaker 3:I don't think Lenny Kravitz could fill the sphere.
Speaker 1:All right, let's see Sinead O'Connor, these motherfuckers with the balls, the balls they got to do. This pisses me off.
Speaker 3:I mean for me. I'm a huge Sinead O'Connor fan. I would love to see her in there. I don't think that she maybe because she passed.
Speaker 1:That's what it is. It's all posthumous.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And I think you know it's interesting. Like nobody batted an eye at Sinead O'Connor, she was largely ignored and when she passed Nobody went to help her. When she was sick, they fucking blackballed her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all of these tributes.
Speaker 3:you know what an amazing artist, what a brave woman. That woman was tortured.
Speaker 1:Morrissey said it right how dare you? You pieces of shit is basically what he said, did you? How dare?
Speaker 3:you, you pieces of shit is basically what he said. Yeah, did you ever get?
Speaker 1:help. Huh, did you ever get sear scott? No, I didn't. Again, it was that block of time, uh, when I was stationed in the philippines here we go this motherfucker. I've said that seven times already, so when I was in the philippines, I came home.
Speaker 3:Oh my god over and over, when I was in the army, I was in the philippines, I was in the air force while you were fucking home smoking dope bad mountain, your country boy.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's what you were doing, you and your long hair hey, lou, you want to go out for a beer?
Speaker 4:yeah, yeah, I already did my father gave me a bunch of CDs.
Speaker 1:They were probably stolen, and one of them was the Lion and the Cobra. I'd never heard of her. It just came out. It was a brand new CD and he's like here, take these back. And I started listening to that. I was like what the fuck? One of the greatest albums I've ever listened to. I just listened to it again recently. I'm like front to back. It's a great fucking album. But I never got to see her and uh, I thought you know morrissey had a a nice uh tribute to her when, uh, before his show, he, he doesn't have a backup band, he plays this video montage. It's really bizarre, like old 50s, and he, he played, nothing Compares to you and everybody kind of gave a big ovation.
Speaker 3:I'm not trying to one-up you, but I got to see her three times Saw her at the Paradise on a very first tour on the Lion and Cobra tour, which was actually broadcast on WBCN, which was incredible. Then I saw her at the Orpheum and then Deb and I, when we first started dating, actually saw her down at Great Woods at the time and she was phenomenal at the time. But you know what, I will admit that even I kind of not intentionally, but kind of lost track of her. But I do think that it's kind of disgraceful that this kind of brilliant woman really brave, brave woman in a lot of ways who had her demons and had her struggles and whatnot, was largely ignored until she passed. And then all of a sudden everybody jumped on the bandwagon, like scott said, and like morrissey, uh, appropriately, yeah, and rightly accused people of jumped on the bandwagon to just propel this woman and her brilliance.
Speaker 4:And her demons were put on her by an institution that she grew up in.
Speaker 1:She was way ahead of her time.
Speaker 2:Was she trying to make records when she was like you know? I read an interview where she was living in a halfway house in new jersey. Yeah, and you ran during that point, like when she backed away from music. Was she trying to make music or did she just succumb to the fucking bipolar? Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know, I think when you're in the limelight. When you disappear from, a lot of people say where have you gone? But what she was dealing with, no fan could really help her.
Speaker 2:No, but, was she trying to make music during that period? I'm just asking rhetorically, I don't know.
Speaker 1:No, she started getting into this religious stuff and there was a whole nother.
Speaker 2:Remember you'd see pictures of her and she'd have this nun outfit on, and she wasn't doing any.
Speaker 1:She was searching.
Speaker 2:She didn't have a record contract, no one would touch her. That's what I'm saying. Was it because of the whole? She seemed to peak with the whole thing with the burning of the Pope picture.
Speaker 1:Tore up the picture on SNL Right right.
Speaker 3:I will tell you guys. I know you guys probably haven't explored her music, but listen to her. Scott's right. The first album is brilliant, but so is the second one. The second one's good. Yeah, absolutely. The second record is incredible.
Speaker 1:It's like the Waterboys, you know you have Hole in the Moon and then the next album, the Fisherman's Blues Fucking just as good as Hole in the Moon. That's a great fucking album. People get lost on that prior album.
Speaker 3:Did you guys acknowledge that Carl Wallinger passed away? Man, what a shame.
Speaker 1:By the way, Jack, while you were seeing Sinead O'Connor at the Paradise and at the Orpheum, I was overseas carrying a gun for this country and walking through the bush looking for the fucking bad guys.
Speaker 3:So I hope you enjoyed your smoking dope and going to concerts. Let's be realistic. When I was out there, you made me on that wall, you walked me on that wall. You were in the middle of the Philippines, drinking and doping and picking up women.
Speaker 1:That too, but you work hard, you got to play hard, you gotta play hard. All right, uh, three more, three more. Ozzy osbourne yes, yeah, should have been in a long time ago, by the way yeah should have been in before cheryl crowe should have been in before fucking uh uh. Carly simon should have been in before the go-go's, should have been in before a lot of a lot of other bands. He should have been in before the go-go's, should have been in before a lot of a lot of other bands.
Speaker 3:He should have been a long time ago, even for the fact of just being able to try to raise the ratings with his acceptance speech about charday's history, I mean, you know, I know she had a couple of big albums in the 80s, but I I don't know much about her beyond that right does she, does she have like a, a catalog?
Speaker 1:she does have a catalog.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like like how how many albums?
Speaker 4:Every 10 years she comes out with an album.
Speaker 1:Well, because she had such a great fucking record contract that she didn't really need the money. I think she toured a lot, though. She toured a lot she did. She had a family. She had a family. Yeah yeah, you can go on YouTube and see clips of her tours, her live performances.
Speaker 2:She's bigger internationally, isn't she?
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah and finally, hey, can I just retread really quick? Yeah, this is what got me into Sinead. Lay your hands on me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's off of the Lion and the Cobra. They made a video with that too.
Speaker 4:It's got the Sam Goody thing it was four 99.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 4:But it's a 12 inch. Yeah, this is. This was a great.
Speaker 1:I was thinking MC light the other day. I'm like whatever happened to MC light? I think she died, Did she?
Speaker 4:die. I saw her a bit I do All right.
Speaker 3:And and Jack. Last but not least, wait a minute, how many? Just guess how many albums did Sade put out? Six, that's right. You apparently looked that up.
Speaker 4:And they all sound the same.
Speaker 1:Where did I look up anything? I'm fucking. I'm talking to Mark's showing me MC Light and Sinead O'Connor. I'm not. You put me on it. You think these fucking sausages can type that fast.
Speaker 3:No, no, I don't think that you just typed it out, but I know you're retired.
Speaker 1:Here we go, we're right back to the fucking original episodes, but Jack did not want to give me any fucking credit.
Speaker 4:This is the best bottle of wine I've had in a month.
Speaker 3:Aside from watching the SpongeBob SquarePants marathon, I never watched one episode of that.
Speaker 1:But the last cartoon I ever watched and it was one of the greatest cartoons ever and when it ended I stopped really watching was Ren and Stimpy Fucking. That was the greatest fucking cartoon ever Dude no, south Park. No, I never watched it.
Speaker 4:South Park's great. I never watched. Family Guy I never watched.
Speaker 1:Over the Hill, or King of the Hill, scott, you would like South Park because it's funny.
Speaker 4:People on both sides watch it and they think that South Park is for them and they don't get it.
Speaker 1:And the brilliant Trey Parker and the other dude. I mean the brilliant comedy writers they know how to play.
Speaker 3:that Salker is just amazing.
Speaker 4:Now, I like Rick and Morty.
Speaker 1:Perry Dinovich, the AI, says Sade is big in Croatia.
Speaker 3:I have no doubt that Sade is big everywhere but the United States.
Speaker 1:And then you got Sock2099. Says Munch me nuts. Evidently he's a fucking foreigner. Get off my show. Munch me nuts. I bet you that motherfucker's from London or something like that. Wait a second.
Speaker 3:Nobody says me, they say my, you're on a show.
Speaker 1:You're commenting on a show in the United States. Asshole Talk like a fucking American. Don't come on my show.
Speaker 4:Munch me nuts. Talk like you're on what. What's he said? Could that be todd sockman as an alter ego sock 29?
Speaker 1:but he wouldn't say me, nuts me, me, munch me, it's my fucking, my munch me nuts let's be nuts and maybe mark, maybe you should talk to mark. He's the fucking soccer fan.
Speaker 3:Guys, I gotta tell you I'm getting a little lost with these outbursts from Scott.
Speaker 4:We can't control it. We tried.
Speaker 3:Is this show now sponsored by Mike Lindell? Are we selling pillows on this?
Speaker 1:show. See look at Lou. Lou knows exactly how to handle this, jack, we are.
Speaker 2:I'm sitting on one of Scott's pillows right now.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's my boy. It's under my ass where it fucking belongs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, lou Me and Lou buddy Me and Lou. Yeah, lou is the new Jack. You've been replaced Jack.
Speaker 4:You gotta understand Lou and Scott have this camaraderie going on. I'm like the new guy, I'm the outsider. Hey, you know. Look, I get it.
Speaker 3:You know you have your political views and all that type of thing, but I thought this show was an escape from all of that. That's what I say too I'm a little disappointed, I'm a little disappointed.
Speaker 1:Don't you have to watch that dude, rachel Maddow, right now, jack? No, she's only on Monday and I watch her on Monday.
Speaker 4:Oh my God. All right Jack.
Speaker 1:last but not least, Can I read the New York Times? In a Rolling Stone magazine I saw a picture. I said I thought Bob Saget died. She looks like Bob Saget. She does All right.
Speaker 2:Jack, last but not least again a tribe called Quest.
Speaker 3:There he goes, the New.
Speaker 2:York.
Speaker 1:Times. I fucking knew it, he's proving his liberal credentials. A tribe called Quest Jack.
Speaker 3:Absolutely belong in the rock and roll. Look, I would say yes to all of them the third time. Yeah, I think they belong in there, don't you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, talk about originators. I mean these guys like they fucking.
Speaker 3:They came out of nowhere with that sound so let's, let's go back to kind of the original, um, kind of premise of this discussion. I think that if you look at who has been let into the rock and roll hall of fame Like they, they have broadened the standards, they have loosened things up how do you say no to anybody that's on that list?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can say no to a couple of them, but that's why I said at the beginning of this conversation this is a very interesting list, this is a good list actually, and it's actually there's. There's argument to be made there, and all of these.
Speaker 3:At the end of the day, if the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame said, look, we've decided that we're going to let everybody on the list in, do you think that would be an argument out there?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, oh no, because you're letting everybody in.
Speaker 4:Everybody thinks they want their favorite band in. So someone who's a REL Speedwagon fan will say why can't they get in?
Speaker 3:I get news for you. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame started out as Harvard University and now it's Cape Cod Community College. We will take anybody.
Speaker 1:I would rather send my kid to Cape Cod Community College than that fucking den of idiocy at Harvard.
Speaker 2:So yeah, it is like harvard you're right, you're absolutely right what's gonna be the real cool, legit alternative to the rock and roll hall of fame? Songwriters hall of fame well, I mean so that would exclude a lot of people that are into the rock isn't the songwriters isn't.
Speaker 3:Isn't the whole idea of something like this to exclude people? I mean, it really should be reserved for the best of the best.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree. I think the criteria that they set should be adhered to in certain ways.
Speaker 3:And it's not anymore. It's not anymore. The point that I'm making is the gate is left wide open. It's money, it's all about money. Gate is left wide open.
Speaker 4:It's money, it's all about money. It's selling tickets.
Speaker 3:It's money, it's money, and I honestly do think that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame plays and tries to get press by excluding certain bands. Yeah, good point. That's really the only thing that makes it interesting anymore.
Speaker 2:Right. So you think America like you know, or say America, we railed about that Like why are we not in? They're not even talked about. But so are you saying they're kind of like playing a game, like waiting to get in, knowing that Mark has made a point saying that if they at all the original people, the pool will be empty. Like you know, the great, original golden era of rock and roll.
Speaker 4:If will be empty.
Speaker 4:Like you know, the original, the great original, golden era of rock and roll that if you put them all, they could blow that load in like five years if they just let everybody. And so and I think jack has a good point it's like by because when you piss people off, like the whole rush thing that made people that didn't know what the rock and roll hall of fame prog fans don't give a shit about, all of a sudden prog fans cared rush not in, you know, and then it helped give publicity to the rock and roll hall of fame.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they love it. I think the rock and roll hall of fame, in terms of the criteria of letting people in, in having an exclusivity or real prominence, I think it's all over. I think that they have. Um, they, they've compromised and and just let everybody in you know like what's the point?
Speaker 2:you've been there for 25 years. Let them in, or whatever the lowest bar is, I guess yeah, you know, look, hey, the baseball hall of fame.
Speaker 3:Let Bill Buckner in, let everybody in. Yeah, go ahead. Scott say something.
Speaker 1:I was just thinking the same thing. I was thinking you know, sports does it right, music had it right for a little while, but it it becomes and it's just just for lack of a better term becomes the good old boy network. Hey, you know, I remember when kiss got in, uh, uh, tom morello was like a big fucking advocate for Kiss to get in, like he was really there should be, but he's in. He's one of the fucking body of the rock and roll.
Speaker 2:So it's like I want.
Speaker 1:Kiss to get in. So I'm going to get everybody to say, hey, and I'm Tom Morello, one of the coolest bands ever. I'm a great guitar player, you know I'm going to tell it. So I'm a great guitar player, you know I'm going to tell it. So I'm saying, hey, listen, and they go, okay, Tom, yeah, I don't believe in it. I don't believe in any of that. I think he pushed them in.
Speaker 3:He pushed them across the finish line. It's a hard thing when you try to put together a criteria or you're trying to quantify art. By this time they should have had it fucking down it time they should have had it fucking down, it's so incredibly subjective.
Speaker 1:But again, by this time they should have had this thing finally worked out and fucking have. Uh, if we let three in this year. But they can't just let three in because it won't be a fucking two hour long show that they want to produce and put on disney plus and show it later on on abc and like it's all.
Speaker 2:Don't forget that that has a play in it too there's also a time when someone was excluded because they wanted to have another r&b act. They said we need another. So someone got yeah, bumped, who'd been there. You know really forever. Yeah I don't know who the artists were, but, and that's where they started to have to that.
Speaker 1:You know why can't hip-hop have it's been around long enough to start its own rock its old hip-hop have its it's been around long enough to start its own hip-hop hall of fame? I mean, R&B has been around for fucking ever. They would have a great hall of fame ceremony.
Speaker 2:There's still people in R&B and Motown Soul that are not in.
Speaker 4:Yeah, when they announced the rock and roll hall of fame when they talked about it originally that was being founded. I wasn't into it because I don off it's. Rock and roll music is just personal to people and I know it's like nice to get into a hall of fame, but I don't think I. From the minute they announced it, I remember I said this will never be the right thing, you know?
Speaker 2:yeah, I just I don't think so yeah, I like chrissy heinz attitude she got. She's going in her mother parents like you gotta go, you gotta go and she's like I don't want to go to this fucking thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think we had already discussed if Oasis does get in, you know they're not going to show.
Speaker 4:But they're going to tour.
Speaker 1:Well you know, Liam was the only one that toured fucking definitely maybe. Noel's, like I'm not's like I'm not playing, I'm not gonna play that, and then it's like I'll play that whole album.
Speaker 3:But do you know one of the reasons why oasis won't show up?
Speaker 1:because it makes news yeah, and I don't think they fucking care. I don't know. It's not that they don't care no, no, no they.
Speaker 3:They just recognize that the way that they get press, the way that they get credibility, is they snub at this point and they've been around too long to to play that game.
Speaker 1:They've just been around too long. I I'm sure they look at these lists and go that's fucking. And because you know these two, especially noel, is a very critical motherfucker but that guy I'm sure he looks at these lists and goes it's shit, it's shite but scott scott.
Speaker 3:The question is is if the rock and Roll Hall of Fame had an exclusivity, if they really abided by their criteria and it was difficult, like really difficult, to get in, they may be more apt to actually go Exactly If it had the weight and the prominence that it should.
Speaker 1:That's kind of what I was saying. I'm sure Noel Gallagher looks at this list and says they're all shit. Maybe, ozzy, he might look at, who knows, maybe he likes fucking Jane's Addiction.
Speaker 3:The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, in terms of its credibility, is a dying entity. It is going to continue to lose its relevance.
Speaker 1:And you know what we're seeing. We are the generation that has witnessed that whole transformation. My stepdaughter will grow up, if she even pays attention to it, she's not even going to fucking care. It's going to become eventually as relevant as the Oscars.
Speaker 4:You know how they know about it. A big empty thing.
Speaker 2:You know how they know about it.
Speaker 4:Now that wear these Nirvana T-shirts, these Led Zeppelin T-shirts. They have no idea what the bands are, they just wear them because they're cool.
Speaker 3:They sell them on Target.
Speaker 4:I see 10-year-old kids wearing Led Zeppelin shirts. It just looks cool.
Speaker 1:Hey, but I think that's good.
Speaker 3:That's a good point, that's a good point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a good point, so all right.
Speaker 3:Well, that's the end of the list. Wouldn't you have more appreciation for those 10-year-old kids if they were actually wearing like a King Crimson shirt?
Speaker 2:Oh, I'd high-five them, it'd be an alarm.
Speaker 3:That is kind of an epic album cover, isn't it? If you walked up to that kid and asked them a question, aside from looking very creepy, if they actually knew something about the band, that would be kind of cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've seen those videos on YouTube where this guy goes to a concert over and it's like some fucking festival and he's like watch these, like he's like the watch these clowns. And he sees these kids coming up and they have on like a Nirvana shirt, or Jane, like a nirvana shirt, or yeah, and they're like so hey, do you know who that is?
Speaker 4:they're like no, yeah, and then he'll kind of dog him a little bit I was schooled on that by my son because when he was in high school we'd be going to target and I'd see kids in in uh, the who shirts, right, and I'd go hey, anthony, look, they like the who, he's like dad. They don't know the band, they just wear it because it's stylish.
Speaker 1:I got my granddaughter a fucking david bowie, it's uh. It was a aladdin sane uh. T-shirt at aero postal fucking it's like a 40 fucking dollar, 45 dollar. Fucking t-shirt. She loves it. She loves it. She doesn't know who the fuck david bowie is.
Speaker 3:She in her mind thinks it gives her street cred, it makes her cool.
Speaker 1:But my daughter wears it. Her mother wears it more than she does.
Speaker 3:But you know what would be really cool If she were wearing that shirt and she was carrying three or four of those albums under her arm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so the kid down the street from me that did the autistic kid he's 20-something years old now who did the Aladdin scene with all the lyrics, yeah, that's great, he threw it out, right yeah. I recently gave him the Candy O album. I'm like can you do the same thing with this album? And he looked at it. He goes, yeah, that one.
Speaker 1:And I pulled out the inner sleeve I said has all the lyrics right here? And he just kind of looked it up and down and he's like the Japanese half, japanese half. Where is it Somewhere? What's the? It used to be Myanmar, myanmar. Yeah, it used to be Myanmar, myanmar. Yeah, it used to be Burma. And he just looked at it up and down.
Speaker 3:I only know that because of Seinfeld.
Speaker 1:But he looked at it and he goes yeah, so right, and I gave him. I said here's the lyrics. I pulled out the sheet. I don't know when I'll get it, but that's going to be pretty fucking cool yeah.
Speaker 4:By the way, you know why I had this available. Why? Because tonight I was going to mention like is there any albums that are perfect from start to finish? Every song is great, and this was one of them.
Speaker 1:I had said that recently also.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's another one of those perfect albums, man, every fucking song. Actually, there's a good number of albums that are flawless from start to finish.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's what I call perfect albums, and that's my opinion of a perfect album is every song starts, even Lion and the Cobra. It has so many different types of sounds on there. And the songs that you think are throwaways are still good fucking songs.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know. My second pick was Leftoverture from Kansas. I can listen to it front to back, every song.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what do you got there, jeff Revolver by the Beatles.
Speaker 3:Deb and I brought the kids. We went and saw the Magnetic Fields on Sunday, oh cool. So they had Deb and I brought the kids. We went and saw the magnetic fields on Sunday. They had some exclusive vinyl and I picked up one.
Speaker 1:Didn't that cost you about $280 for that garbage. No, no.
Speaker 3:It was $135.
Speaker 1:I was going to say you're not walking out of that motherfucker.
Speaker 4:with that I've never heard of the magnetic fields. I could turn on a thought meter.
Speaker 2:Have've never heard of the magnetic fields. I could turn on.
Speaker 3:Have you ever heard of Peter Gabriel's version of the Book of Love? No, you've got to hear that song.
Speaker 4:Is that on Scratch my Back or something?
Speaker 3:I think so. Yeah, cool kind of quirky band. You may like them, you may not take it at all. Hey, jack, you know what time it is.
Speaker 1:it's time for me to go to bed, it's time for this day in music, which means it's time for you to go to bed.
Speaker 3:I'm going to give you three strikes. Okay, okay, all right.
Speaker 1:On this day in 2014,. Tickets for Kate Bush's first live shows in 35 years sold out in less than 15 minutes. The Before the Dawn concerts, which were booked to take place this August and September, marked the singer's first return to the stage since the tour of life in 1979. Demand was so high. God, it's backwards, but I see it before the dawn. Yeah, yeah, cool, uh, demand was so high it's your camera image.
Speaker 2:It's the camera.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know that you're an idiot. No, you're an idiot.
Speaker 1:No, you're an idiot, I said it first Big stupid head. I said it first. I got it in before you did. I'm surprised you didn't say it sooner.
Speaker 4:I love vinyl. I love vinyl. Yeah, I love vinyl, yeah.
Speaker 3:Guys, if you have not heard this, this is brilliant.
Speaker 1:Kate Bush. To me, the songs are either really good or they're not.
Speaker 3:This is brilliant, kate Bush to me, the songs are either really good or they're not. This is brilliant.
Speaker 1:She's a hit or miss. Every song is a hit or miss with me, but I do like her, I do like her Demand was so high that the singer's own website, as well as some ticket selling sites, crashed. People tried to log on.
Speaker 3:Scott trivia question.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Has she ever played live in the united states? Once where saturday night live.
Speaker 1:That's absolutely correct really I know stuff she never did a concert here wow nope, never toured over here see I'm smart. I'm not stupid like you think I'm smart and I want respect scott pick up somebody at the airport.
Speaker 3:Scott run some mickey mouse life exactly nightclub.
Speaker 1:on this day in 2013, american rock guitarist and session musician, hugh mccracken, died of leukemia in new york city at the age of 70. Do you know Hugh McCracken?
Speaker 2:Hugh McCracken. He's a guitar player on both Branded Girl and Double Fantasy album.
Speaker 1:He played with Steely Dan, billy Joel, roberta Flack, bb King, john Lennon, paul McCartney, the Monkees, paul Simon, art Goff, uncle James Taylor, phoebe Snow, Bob Dylan, carly Simon, graham Parker, eric snow, bob dylan, carly simon, graham parker, eric common, uh, london, way that they're aretha, franklin van morrison, the four seasons, harlan oats, gary wright and andy gibb jesus. Because of such high demand for his work, mccracken declined paul mccartney's invitation uh to help form his new band wings after appearing on his 1971 album ram so how does it, how is it that a guy like that is not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
Speaker 1:Well, just like Glen Campbell, Glen Campbell is with the Wrecking Crew.
Speaker 3:He's made more of a contribution to music than Cher had.
Speaker 4:And Jesse.
Speaker 3:Davis Great.
Speaker 2:Jesse, there's so many unsung studio guys. He's not as well-known as theing crew, like scott said, but I mean, like you said, he turned on me, he played the guitar solo on my love. Yeah, that was the one time mccartney was trying to dictate he goes, let me just play this thing, that's right that's right. One time he put his ego aside and said the guitar solo was perfect.
Speaker 1:That's it's fucking shut the fuck up basically and let me play, let me do this. On this day in 2006, tina Brown, sister-in-law of Whitney Houston, sold pictures taken in her bathroom to the National Enquirer. God rest in peace.
Speaker 4:National Enquirer claiming Houston had been taking Wait, wait, wait, wait, a minute Are you big on the business. Wait a minute.
Speaker 3:National Enquirer is not what it used to be National Enquirer in the 80s. Wait, wait, wait Not. God rest in peace, whitney Houston. God rest in peace, the National Enquirer, yeah.
Speaker 2:What the fuck Doesn't it mean? Elvis was not abducted by the aliens. That's right.
Speaker 1:National Enquirer meant more to me than Whitney Houston. It was the greatest fucking magazine.
Speaker 4:The greatest big thing magazine.
Speaker 1:Oh, here we go again. So sold pictures taken in her bathroom to the National, claiming Houston had been taking crack cocaine. Oh right, those pictures were. The pictures showed drug paraphernalia including a crack smoking pipe, rolling papers, cocaine cake spoons plural and cigarette ends strewn across the surface tops of the bathroom $100 bill $100 bill y'all Caked.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I thought you said cake. I could go for some cake right now.
Speaker 1:Let's see, on this day in 2005, after playing a warm-up date the night before at a Los Angeles sports arena, you two kicked off their vertigo tour at the I pay, I pay one center in San Diego, california. 131 date tour, world tour would see the band playing in North America, europe, south America.
Speaker 4:Japan too much for concert tickets, yeah.
Speaker 1:That that tour gross $389 million On this day in 2001,. Who's in the news today? The artist, formerly known as both Puffy and Puff Daddy, said in an interview on MTV I did not do sex trafficking. That's all I'm going to say to that. On this day in 2000 2000, jimmy Page accepted substantial undisclosed liable damages from a magazine which claimed he had caused or contributed to the death of his Led Zeppelin bandmate John Bonham. Yeah, on this day in 1995, singer Jimmy McShane died of complications from AIDS. He was the lead singer with Tarzan Boy. Singer Jimmy McShane died of complications from AIDS. He was the lead singer with Tarzan Boy.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, that's who. That is the name of the band was Baltimore.
Speaker 1:On this day in 1992, over $100,000 worth of damage was caused to the Irvine Metals Amphitheater in California when Ozzy Osbourne invited the first two rows of the audience on stage. Several others took up the offer and the band was forced to exit the stage. On this day in 1982, David Crosby was arrested after crashing his car on San Diego Highway. Police also found cocaine in a pistol.
Speaker 4:I remember that that was a big deal, not my cocaine yeah yeah uh.
Speaker 1:When the police asked crosby why he carried the gun, he replied his reply was john lennon. Okay, not a bad point. On this day in 1981, blondie started the two-week run at number one in the us single shots with rapture. Uh. On this day in 1976, phil Collins as mentioned. Genesis began their first North American tour since Peter Gabriel left the band, appearing in Buffalo, new York, with Phil Collins taking over. On this day in 1973, led Zeppelin released their fifth studio album, houses of the Holy. The album title was a dedication by the band to their fans who appeared at venues they dubbed Houses of the Holy. Did you know that?
Speaker 4:No, but that's great yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm glad he left. Thank God, he left. Thank God. That's why I was just saying this is shit.
Speaker 1:I would not have fucking, I would have just been. I wasn't even going to do this at the segment because we're already at almost three hours, yeah yeah, exit stage left and you know what that's about it today that lady gaga was born. Today, fucking john evan, that's it.
Speaker 4:Well, let me tell you something. I just got a text from tom. I'm drinking at the bar and I'm drunk, but you're getting drunk and everybody sees it. No, I'm not that bad.
Speaker 1:Come on. Well, gentlemen, let's wrap this up as I always say uh, thank you for your time, thank you for your knowledge, but most of all and I always mean this thank you for your friendships.
Speaker 4:Uh, I'm glad that that tom, I'm glad that tom introduced us uh, and tom is probably pissing on the side of my house right now yeah, walking back, probably filming it.
Speaker 1:He's gonna fucking send you the video?
Speaker 4:yeah, yeah, he did last time I know and uh for everybody listen.
Speaker 1:Thanks for watching, thanks for listening. If you like it, share it if you didn't. Well, thanks for listening for two hours and 47 minutes we were so ahead of schedule until fucking jack came on we were gonna get done in less than two hours. Here he is this. I shouldn't even let him on jack sorry, I lost you guys yeah, yeah, sorry about that. We're done. I was just checking out.
Speaker 4:I'm checking out, thank you. Thank you for coming on.
Speaker 1:I said I wasn't right I wasn't even gonna do this section and I said jack was there. So I said I'm gonna do it. Thanks to you, you brought us up to almost three hour show buddy.
Speaker 4:It's great, well worth it well worth it, it's great it's fantastic that's what I say I'm so.
Speaker 3:I'm so happy that I came on. This has been a wonderful use of my time, patty.
Speaker 1:Yossi said thanks for the info and laughed Great show. Nice seeing Jack again. Have a happy Easter guys. You too, patty, and like I always say, doing this show for you guys, to quote my favorite artist, morrissey, the pleasure, the privilege is mine. Jack, my friend, I love you. You know that, buddy, you need to come on more often. Just come on a little earlier.
Speaker 3:Is. Morrissey really is it? Well, I didn't realize you. I keep forgetting you guys. Start earlier now, right Seven.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because Mark has to get up for work.
Speaker 3:I have the sign you know what. Hey, Mark, hold that up again.
Speaker 1:I want to get a picture of that. Hold that up again.
Speaker 4:Okay.
Speaker 1:Jack, give the thumbs up. There you go.
Speaker 3:I forgot that you guys started earlier. I apologize for coming on later. I thought that I was only. I literally thought I was only a few minutes late no, it's because of me.
Speaker 4:Mark likes you I have to wake up at 5, 30 in the morning on friday.
Speaker 3:So I say I I get it, man I get. Look, I'm not a big believer in these like two hour shows. I think you guys should do a solid nine minutes and call it a day how about 30 seconds.
Speaker 1:I know a lot about that 30 seconds yeah, these guys know way too much to condense it. I learned that right at the beginning. These guys know way too much it's a fluke.
Speaker 4:When you're with the professor, you can't we can't keep lou down.
Speaker 3:He's fucking bubbling over I, I have to tell you guys, it is honest, awesome to see you and, to be honest, I wish.
Speaker 1:I could be on more often. You know, you can always pop on.
Speaker 3:I know.
Speaker 2:You can do it on your telephone.
Speaker 1:No, I don't want that. No, that would drive me fucking crazy.
Speaker 2:It's great on the telephone.
Speaker 3:Hey, hey, hey, Scam, it's me Just call in, jack.
Speaker 2:Just call in. Hey Lou, hey Scab, it's me. Just call in, jack, just call in.
Speaker 4:Hey Lou. Did I step on you, lou, I'm sorry. Did I step on you? Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:We're so sorry, Mr.
Speaker 4:Calabrese.
Speaker 1:All right, everybody Before this gets way out of hand. Thanks for watching, thanks for listening. Uh, I'll see. We'll see you next week. Say goodbye boys bye boys.