Milk Crates and Turntables. A Music Discussion Podcast

Ep. 142- Exploring One-Hit Wonders and Musical Nostalgia: A Journey Through Music History

April 04, 2024 Scott McLean Episode 142
Ep. 142- Exploring One-Hit Wonders and Musical Nostalgia: A Journey Through Music History
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Milk Crates and Turntables. A Music Discussion Podcast
Ep. 142- Exploring One-Hit Wonders and Musical Nostalgia: A Journey Through Music History
Apr 04, 2024 Episode 142
Scott McLean
Ever wonder what happened to those one-hit wonders that captured our hearts for a brief, shining moment? Mark Smith, Lou Colicchio, and I are your tour guides on a nostalgic expedition through the twists and turns of music history. We kick things off with a playful round of '45 Poker,' rifling through our records to unearth once-cherished tunes like "Black Water" and "Lady Marmalade." The debate heats up as we toss party anthems into the ring, putting "Love Rollercoaster" head-to-head with "Fire," and we don't shy away from a little controversy as we unpack Steve Miller's Rock Hall of Fame drama.

Join us as we share the studio with the charming Jack, and we can't help but dish out laughter and sarcasm when discussing the quirky pasts of musicians like Creed Bratton and Terence Trent D'Arby. The show takes an interactive turn with "You Make the Call," where our listeners weigh in on the musical musings of the day. It's a session filled with insider anecdotes, the unexpected life choices of artists stepping away from the limelight, and the quiet afterlives of fame. Whether we're musing over Eric Clapton's guitar god status or the legacy of 70s hits, there's never a dull moment.

To wrap things up, we reminisce about the 1978 music rankings, sparking a lively debate on the merits of Clapton's riffs versus those of his contemporaries. Our musical journey is packed with tales of artistic transformations, like Bill Berry's transition from R.E.M. to farming, and the quiet but fulfilling paths some artists take post-mainstream success. So, grab your headphones and get ready to smile, laugh, and maybe even sing along as we explore the rich tapestry of stories that the music world has woven into our lives.
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Ever wonder what happened to those one-hit wonders that captured our hearts for a brief, shining moment? Mark Smith, Lou Colicchio, and I are your tour guides on a nostalgic expedition through the twists and turns of music history. We kick things off with a playful round of '45 Poker,' rifling through our records to unearth once-cherished tunes like "Black Water" and "Lady Marmalade." The debate heats up as we toss party anthems into the ring, putting "Love Rollercoaster" head-to-head with "Fire," and we don't shy away from a little controversy as we unpack Steve Miller's Rock Hall of Fame drama.

Join us as we share the studio with the charming Jack, and we can't help but dish out laughter and sarcasm when discussing the quirky pasts of musicians like Creed Bratton and Terence Trent D'Arby. The show takes an interactive turn with "You Make the Call," where our listeners weigh in on the musical musings of the day. It's a session filled with insider anecdotes, the unexpected life choices of artists stepping away from the limelight, and the quiet afterlives of fame. Whether we're musing over Eric Clapton's guitar god status or the legacy of 70s hits, there's never a dull moment.

To wrap things up, we reminisce about the 1978 music rankings, sparking a lively debate on the merits of Clapton's riffs versus those of his contemporaries. Our musical journey is packed with tales of artistic transformations, like Bill Berry's transition from R.E.M. to farming, and the quiet but fulfilling paths some artists take post-mainstream success. So, grab your headphones and get ready to smile, laugh, and maybe even sing along as we explore the rich tapestry of stories that the music world has woven into our lives.
Speaker 1:

Well, here we are, episode 142. And on this episode, as usual, I have the wrecking two Mark Smith, lou Colicchio, music Relish Show. Find them on YouTube. Who's running late tonight? He's going to drop in, he's going to pull a jack, and tonight we're going to talk about where are they now and a lot of other things. Where are they now? I have some one hit wonders, we're going to find out where they are now. Wonders, we're going to find out where they are now. Along with 45 Poker, you Make the Call. That's just going to be a light show. Hopefully it's not three hours like last week, but well, you never know, the KOFB Studio presents Milk Crates and Turntables.

Speaker 2:

a music discussion podcast hosted by Scott McClain. Now let's talk music. Enjoy the show. Hosted by Scott McClain. Now let's talk music. Enjoy the show.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, amanda, for that wonderful introduction, as usual. I'm scrambling here right now, jumped in a little late and it always happens I forget something, I have to correct something, and that's what I'm doing right now. Yeah, that's one of the let's see If I didn't. Oh good, I saved that, all right, and I have the wrong title up in the corner. I know that it's going to make a difference, but I'm going to change it anyways. I think that was probably up there for the last couple weeks. Let's see.

Speaker 1:

It's important for people to tune in the ones that do and see what the topic is, not one topic, and then they're getting another. Where are they now? And that's what we're talking about tonight. Where are they now? And that's what we're talking about tonight. Where are they now? Let me see. Where's the fucking? I'm a horrible typer. I think it's all there, all there, all there. Streaming, streaming, streaming. All right, we're good, we're good, we're good. Let's get that off the screen.

Speaker 1:

All right, welcome to the podcast. Welcome back, my friends, to the show that never ends. We're so glad you could attend. Come inside. Come inside, got a good show tonight. Interesting show, interesting podcast episode. Where are they now? Interesting, because I think we're going to be coming at it from different perspectives of how we're presenting this. I always just send it out and say, hey, this is what we're doing and how it comes out. It just comes out that way. Like I said, this is not a very highly produced podcast, but it's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun Even with well, let lot of fun. Even with well, let me see, even with what's up?

Speaker 2:

I'm in the penalty box already what's up, buddy how? You doing, I'm doing, all right, yeah yeah, good to be here. Stuck with me for a little while, don't worry. Lou's coming Lou's, coming Lou's coming.

Speaker 1:

Let's get the chat up on the screen. Allison, good evening.

Speaker 2:

It's good afternoon out there, right? No, she's Eastern.

Speaker 1:

She's in Vermont Standard time Okay.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's right, vermont. Yeah, yeah, she's got another foot of snow I think jesus guys can have all that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, hey, do you notice anything different about my screen? No, you don't. Huh, it's because you never pay attention. You mean, you're talking about your room, yeah, my surroundings. Anything different?

Speaker 2:

I'm not good at that stuff. This is what I flunked out on in school.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you flunked out on the subject. What's different here? Yeah, what doesn't belong. And why the candle? I get a candle now. Oh, nice, figure, that change it up a little see I'm looking for the uh, the obvious, it's spider-man there, patty. Patty ossey says she likes your hair mark. Hey, thank you, patty. It's so soft and smooth, soft and silky and supple. It's a lot of s's. Oh, dave phillips, king of the 45s welcome.

Speaker 2:

Oh my god, I I saw patty's first comment. I said hi, ali, sorry, I'm really am out of it today. You're brutal, you are a horrible co-host yeah, I'm the worst.

Speaker 1:

So, uh, ready for drive time. Patty likes my candle. Yeah, it is. It's either that or you know, baron Von Skull, you know I could probably squeeze them both in there a little bit. Let's see how do I get that. Get them over here a little bit and then that way, if I tip it over, though, I'm in trouble.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, way slide. If I tip it over, though, I'm in trouble yeah, uh, we'll get the big.

Speaker 1:

We'll be right back. Technical difficulty because I, I, I literally have a rubber floor in this studio oh, I could fall down.

Speaker 2:

It's a rubber floor. Yeah, I had I.

Speaker 1:

I bought these giant, these big square, when I was redoing this. I said I'm just going to, you know, people put tile down or they put down. I'm going to go with a rubber floor. Yeah, you know who loves this rubber floor? My cat, morrissey. Oh, he just digs his claws Loves it, he loves it. So, lou, yeah, he's kneadiggs is Claus, loves it, he loves it. So, Lou, yeah, he's needing bread. So, lou's late, lou's late. He said after seven, which could be between seven and ten, there's a window there, there's a window, there's a window. Yeah, man. So oh, oh, oh oh, big Head Todd, the Wet Sprocket, is driving from Sacramento to LA and so he's going to visit his parents.

Speaker 1:

How long does that take? Well, he'll be watching the whole episode, listening, he'll be listening to the whole episode on his drive. Lou is not here, but I am, that's right, that's right. You know, it's a good thing that Jack is on the road and he's not going to do a drop-in, because the last thing I would want is fucking Mark and Jack on the same show. And it's just me, yeah, and just me. Oh, that would be great. Seven hours takes them to drive.

Speaker 2:

Oh, wow, that is the length of the state pretty much, yeah, yeah yeah well, we're not doing a seven hour show you said on the uh intro, it's going to be a light show tonight. It's going to be light, light show.

Speaker 1:

So I have this other podcast called the vets connect excellent podcast. Oh, oh, oh uh, jeffrey, jeffrey adami, jeffrey. Who the fuck puts their name? What man puts jeffrey? He's jeff, it's jeff, it's jeffy, it's jeff jay. But who who makes? Who puts their name? Jeffy, jeffrey, jeffrey adami, and I know him, he's, he's, he's as big as you mark, like he's a big dude and he calls himself jeffrey, he's jeffrey.

Speaker 2:

At least it's not jeffrey, it's jeffrey, that's his full name.

Speaker 1:

I know I. I think jeffrey might be better than just calling myself jeffrey. Oh, hi, jeffrey. Hello jeffrey adami. Picking on someone's name? Oh, that's right, because I'm calling myself Jeffrey. Hi, jeffrey. Hello, jeffrey Adami Picking on someone's name? That's right, because that's what I do. We know that's what I do. That's what I do best. Where is the Santa hat? I have no idea what he's talking about there. Is he talking about the king of Facebook crown, is that?

Speaker 1:

what he's talking about, yeah yeah, well, he hasn't tuned in for a while, evidently, so gotta have coffee for that one. Jim Harris, king of the villages, king of the villages in Florida, his golf cart, jim Harris's golf cart. It's like Ooh Mark's using his, his, he's used this cough button. Look at you.

Speaker 2:

You're a professional. Yeah, pollen starting up here, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Jim Harris, his golf cart at the Villages, the infamous Villages. Some call it a cult. Right, the place is insane, though there's something going on every night. I mean, they do it. Right, the place is getting. It's huge though. It's getting bigger and bigger. And hey, listen, people like it there. But his golf cart because golf carts are the big deal it's the shape of a crown, really. No, not really, but it should be. Yeah, let's see. Oh, oh, oh, oh, bob. Bob Doucette says oh, I must be mistaken, I thought this was a music. But I'll tell you. Says, oh, I must be mistaken, I thought this was a music part. I'll tell you what, bob. You're right, we were trying to kill time because I'll just sit with my room. The video was late.

Speaker 4:

Uh-oh, something's not working here. Oh, here we go, here we go.

Speaker 2:

Here's the music. Everybody wants music.

Speaker 4:

Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello, hello. See, bob just said, this is why.

Speaker 1:

This is why. This is why we can hear Lou. Can Lou hear us?

Speaker 4:

Yes, I can Welcome to the show, thank you.

Speaker 1:

It's official.

Speaker 4:

It's official.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it's an official show. Bob Doucette was just chastising us because Mark and I were trying to delay Because we're teammates, that's how we work. We're a team.

Speaker 4:

Bob Doucette, not an individual like you. Hey, dave, what did he say here? Oh, I must be mistaken. I thought this was a music podcast.

Speaker 1:

Whoa Jumped on to some hostility here, that's. That's an eager fan, that's an eager fan okay okay, who loves music, he has an insane stereo system. Insane stereo system, oh nice, way beyond what what one man needs, but it's, it's insane.

Speaker 2:

There's no limits to stereo, I mean it's.

Speaker 1:

It's enviable. His setup is enviable. I'll give him that. I'll give him that. So let's get into 45 poker right away. Gentlemen, let's get this started. I still haven't shuffled my deck. I have I probably have like three, four, four weeks, five weeks left in this box. Wow. So, yeah, yeah, like I'll just pull the stack. I still have like three, four, four, four weeks, five weeks left in this box. Wow. So, yeah, yeah, like I'll just pull the stock out. Like I still have like that many to go and we're only doing three or six. So, yeah, patty yasi hooked us up. Yeah, she hooked us up. All right, here we go. Let's get this party started. I'm gonna reach in. I'll start with mark this week. Let's start with mark. All right, you know, let me start with me. I always start with one of you guys.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, start with yourself.

Speaker 1:

Here we go, here we go. I'm reaching into my little box of 45s and what I'm coming up with is from Warner Reprieve. No, yeah, warner Reprieve. Is this Warner Reprieve? Rare Earth oh yeah, here Comes the Night. Or Born to Wander? I always start off slow. I always start off slow. Here you go, mark, here's yours Ready. Yeah, from Atlantic Records. Mark's been getting some good hands lately. He's pulling some good, some good 45s atlantic records. You gotta love the, the retro, I love it. Package right. Yeah, got that logo right there. Uh-huh, right up in the corner. Uh, we have the tramps. Oh, that's where the happy people go down at the disco.

Speaker 4:

That's where the happy people go.

Speaker 1:

Happy people go Disco.

Speaker 3:

I guess that's the.

Speaker 2:

A's.

Speaker 1:

That's where the happy people go. Yeah, it's side one and side two. I thought it was.

Speaker 2:

Disco Inferno no no.

Speaker 1:

That was the hit that was the hit. But this song, I might like that song a little better. I might like that. The disco in front of us is a classic.

Speaker 2:

It's hot. Lou's going to get a big hit right now. He's going to come out. There we go. Well, Lou needs one.

Speaker 4:

Last week's winner, by the way, was Lou. Yeah, we forgot, we forgot already. I know really.

Speaker 1:

Here we go From the Sound of Philadelphia Cool, the Sound of Philadelphia OJs. People keep telling me and ooh, for the love of money Lou takes the lead Money, money, money money. Alright, let me go with the second one. Lou, you don't have your 45s yet, right? I don't know where the fuck they are. I couldn't have just said out on the way you have to emphasize the fuck.

Speaker 4:

Where the fuck they are. I'm frustrated, that's a little fuck-strated.

Speaker 2:

We had some complaints from listeners Lou, we decided to drop the F-bomb tonight. Oh really, I had to drop the F-bomb tonight, oh really, but you could say damn oh, is this like an old 70s sitcom?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, three hells and two dams. Son of a biscuit.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, big Ed Todd, the way it's rocket, just messaging this is going to be a really, really, really long drive. Stop teaching. Listen, this is an episode where I might have a lot to sing. Here we go, here we go, pull me out a good one, come on, oh Jesus, oh Jesus. There you go. Andy Gibb Cool, andy Gibb Nice, I just want to be your. Everything it was a hit. I was a hit, it was a hit.

Speaker 4:

It was a hit, so Okay.

Speaker 1:

So I got Put hit, it was a hit, so okay, so I got uh, put you in a second I got rare earth and handy kibble.

Speaker 2:

All right, here we go.

Speaker 1:

Time for me to jump into sock where we go from market, from warner reprise. Oh no, actually I think that's the wrong, is it? Yeah, uh, I think it's warner. Yep, it's, it's Warnery. Please, let's see Warner. Please. The Doobie Brothers? No, yeah, the Doobie Brothers, take Me in your Arms, rock.

Speaker 2:

Me Yep.

Speaker 1:

And Slap Key Soak Wool Rag. I like that better. Yeah, take Me in your arms and rock me that that was the doobie brothers.

Speaker 4:

Yeah them covering. It's a cover they covered it.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's a shit song right there I like sorry.

Speaker 4:

Well, I'm sorry, mark you're doing the cover of a shit song yeah, right, why did the doobies do that?

Speaker 1:

it's so out of their box. The original was a hit right, yeah, yeah, both, both were I don't know who. All right, I'm gonna ask you get it. Michael mcdonald doing take me in your arms go take me in your arms.

Speaker 2:

That's so bad that's so bad what's better is the shape of your mouth it was sung by tom johnson.

Speaker 1:

Actually, yeah, okay either way, but doesn't everybody equate michael mcdonald with the doobie brothers? Like every song, they think michael mcdonald, he's really right, he's not he came in after four albums, yeah come on.

Speaker 4:

I think that's the album he came in on, maybe uh, you're my brother album.

Speaker 2:

Taking it to the streets. You don't know me, but I'm your brother.

Speaker 1:

All right, I know you're going to get a shitty fucking thing right now. This is Bach. Right, is this Bach?

Speaker 3:

No, it's Luke.

Speaker 1:

All right, good, here we go From Chelsea Records. Chelsea Records, that's a pretty funky, you see that yeah.

Speaker 4:

Chelsea Records, that's a pretty funky.

Speaker 1:

You see, that yeah Colorful. Look at my face right in the middle of it.

Speaker 4:

Looks like a bubblegum hit.

Speaker 2:

Chelsea got their asses handed to them today. Good, it's like the Archies or something.

Speaker 4:

Well, let's see Good.

Speaker 2:

It's like the Archies or something.

Speaker 1:

Well, let's see Disco Tex in the sex-o-lets. Yes, yeah, I want to dance with Chew. Or I want to dance with Chew, double A side. It's a double A side, it wasn't even the big hit.

Speaker 2:

I got to think I'm winning dance with Chu Double A side.

Speaker 4:

It's a double A side.

Speaker 1:

It wasn't even the big hit. I got to think I'm winning at this point. Am I wrong in saying that, andy Gibb?

Speaker 2:

and Rare Earth is hurting me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I got two funny hits here, mark has the Tramps and a fucking Doobie Brothers remake of a shitty song. We each have one hit and Lou has OJ's and Disco Texas Maybe Lou's in the lead. I think the OJ's for the love of money, yeah that was a big one. Yeah, that's holding him strong. Alright, Mark, you got the flop card here Come on Alright. This is mine, all mine. Come on, this is my win, scott I. This is my win All mine Come on. This is my win.

Speaker 4:

Scott, I am taking it. This is my win Bring it.

Speaker 2:

Press records the fortunes, the fortunes. Wait a minute, here it comes again and things I should have known. Wait a minute.

Speaker 1:

Keep waiting.

Speaker 4:

I'm still waiting, Lou. What was the first song, Mark?

Speaker 2:

Here it Comes Again.

Speaker 4:

Is that? No, I can't think of it. I was thinking about it. Here comes that rainy day feeling again. That's not it. Yeah, all right, lou.

Speaker 1:

This might be the worst set of 45s to date. It's pretty bad. This is pretty bad. This is pretty bad when the OJs is the best song on the list.

Speaker 4:

That's a good. It's a good song, though it is, but that's good.

Speaker 2:

This may have made it back in. Did this may have made it back in? I think I may have picked this already. If it is, I'll repick, but it's a lecture records. The doors touch me damn well you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that is a did I take that already? Yeah, well, that that was a couple weeks ago though to redo, redo.

Speaker 2:

I forgot to put it in the back. Okay, here we go, doesn't matter to me.

Speaker 1:

I'm out, I'm done bud.

Speaker 2:

Oh, it's a 45 with and I'm just going to show it the Temptations Ball of Confusion. So Lou got Temptation. Let me make sure that's what's inside. Isn't that yours?

Speaker 1:

No, I did, we did you because, yeah, we redid you the doors, was uh well, I thought mark had his third song, though he didn't do it.

Speaker 4:

It went scott mark, then lou, so this should be mark so that's yours mark. Oh okay, all right all right, you got both. What?

Speaker 1:

would we do without lou?

Speaker 4:

I know, you know so you got ball confusion, honestly all right counts. All right, here we go. This better be a good one. Mark, lose in the lead with one song. Sunday you will suffer Sunday, I swear to you.

Speaker 2:

You're going to know this one I'm not scared of you anymore.

Speaker 3:

You're the dream, oh boy, all right.

Speaker 2:

You can count to four. Abc Dunhill Records the Grassroots Midnight Confessions, yes, backed with who Will you Be Tomorrow? I know that song too.

Speaker 1:

I guess Lou Wins yeah.

Speaker 2:

I got to say Lou.

Speaker 1:

Wins Two. Well, mark, you had what you had a ball of confusion, a shitty Doobie Brothers remake. And you had the Traamps, though right, yeah, I don't know that song Down at the disco, that's where the happy people go, yeah, and what was the other one Ball of Confusion? I don't know, mark might have won this one.

Speaker 4:

Oh, so he's got the Tramps Take Me in your Arms. Well, yeah, because.

Speaker 2:

Lou had. Yeah, he's got the Doobie.

Speaker 1:

Brothers.

Speaker 4:

Take.

Speaker 1:

Me In your Arms, and then he ends up with what was the last one.

Speaker 4:

I got Disco Tex and the Sex Alliance, so that was. I want to dance with you. I don't know, Lou, you only had Disco Tex.

Speaker 2:

Lou got Midnight Confessions.

Speaker 1:

And you had the OJs for the Love of Money, I've got two good songs, mark, you got three.

Speaker 4:

I mean the tramp song. I'm not sure I know it, but I'll yeah it was a hit it was it was their second biggest hit. It was it was a radio I gotta give it to mark, yeah all right, yeah, what a shitty hand that was.

Speaker 1:

That's like one of those when you play in poker and the winning hand is a fucking pair of sixes.

Speaker 4:

I could have caused a scandal by accepting both of Confucian.

Speaker 1:

That would have been scandalous. It's all falling all over the place now.

Speaker 2:

Get that out of here.

Speaker 1:

Get that out of here. All right, you know what? Since we're in the competitive mode, I'm going to jump right into. You Make the Call. All right, you Make the Call, let's jump right in. Then we're going to do when Are they Now? Then we'll do when Are they Now? You Make the Call is always fun. Some 70s cheese mixed with some 70s gold. 10-song playlist, okay. So it's not like which is the cheesiest, it's basically which song would you put on your playlist? Desert island, 10-song cheese versus gold, Like you know it's a mix.

Speaker 1:

So here we go. You make the call all right, start right off with. We'll start with Luke. Luke, you make the call the carpenters close to you and, just like me, they long to be. I'm singing this to Big Head Todd. That went sprung Close to you. Close to you On the day that you were born, the angels got together and decided to create a dream come true.

Speaker 3:

So they sprinkled gold.

Speaker 1:

as to your hair, I could keep going.

Speaker 4:

All right, right, close to you, or bread make it with you. Oh, bread, bread, fucking bread that's right, fucking razor blades.

Speaker 1:

There you go, mark close to you by the carpenters or make it with you I love bread better as a artist, but I gotta go with close to you.

Speaker 4:

That's a classic bread, like I said makes me want to fucking slit my wrists if you just really reach out for the other side, scott, you would change your your mind. With two razor blades I might be climbing on rainbows.

Speaker 1:

Two razor blades Side by side, Like a double edge, like a shickle. Well, with these arms I need two. It's hard to cut through this rhino skin. It's like rhino skin. I've bent needles. I've bent needles with them trying to take blood. I have to go with the Carpenters. I just think it is a better song anyways.

Speaker 2:

I think it's a better song. I got that 45.

Speaker 1:

Yeah yeah, and there are no wrong answers here, but the Carpenters win this round.

Speaker 4:

I had my reasons to choose this brand. I had my reasons.

Speaker 1:

All right, okay, okay, okay, okay, lou, you make the call Maggie Mae. Or now remember Desert Island 10-song playlist 70s gold, 70s cheese. Maggie Mae, or you're so vain.

Speaker 4:

Shoot me. Can I borrow one of those razor blades? They broke. I reluctantly, under duress, say Maggie Mae, I love the fact that I made Lou squirm on two in a row.

Speaker 1:

He's a hard egg to crack.

Speaker 4:

Actually I like bread.

Speaker 1:

Lou is usually very firm in his responses.

Speaker 4:

I had a day. I had a day. Yeah, maggie Mae, did you know? Did you ever hear the real intro to Maggie Mae, the whole intro?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's got the classical guitar, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4:

I heard it, my son and son. I heard that yesterday, last night, and, um, I said, listen to this. I said where did the intro?

Speaker 1:

and he goes huh yeah, the one you don't hear on the radio, we hear the radio, edit, right, you don't hear the the long cut.

Speaker 4:

Uh, I never liked your sylvanas, I just didn't mark, maggie may or your sylvain.

Speaker 2:

I enthusiastically go with maggie may because I love all that early uh rod stewart, that whole album, every picture tells the story and I never got tired of maggie may, great lyrics, great lyrics.

Speaker 4:

But if, if, if a song was egg salad, that would be egg salad to me right now so it's so fear maggie may this one, I put it together, and it was tough for me.

Speaker 1:

This one, I put it together, and it was tough for me because you're so vain, it's, it's. I never get sick of that song either yeah yeah, I do I never get really.

Speaker 4:

I never, I never.

Speaker 1:

I never cared for it too much ah, okay, even though she doesn't belong in the rock and roll hall of fame.

Speaker 4:

But you know, no, that's one of her better songs, though it's not a. It's not a bad song, I just don't. I just it never had a feel for that particular sound.

Speaker 1:

I don't know all right, all right. I I guess I'll go with. Ah, this is a tough one. I I'll go a little reluctantly, maggie may, don't you, don't, you, don't, you, don't, you, don't, you, don't you it doesn't go with jagger in the background. That's what I was thinking too, because I always key in on that, and that this is a tough one, uh, but if I was on a desert island? Wake up, maggie.

Speaker 2:

I think I got something to say to you I reluctantly maggie may I really should be back at school because you robbed the cradle with me, maggie yeah, yeah, okay, here you go, luke me maggie.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, okay, here you go, luke you make the call. Desert island 10 song playlist 70s cheese, 70s gold, the joker by steve miller, or back when turner overd. You ain't seen nothing yet, the Joker, or ain't?

Speaker 4:

seen nothing yet. I don't want to be on a desert island in here, maurice, so I will go with BT.

Speaker 2:

What Wow.

Speaker 1:

I don't want to be on a desert island in here. Of all the things to say, maurice, what?

Speaker 4:

Wow, it'll make me feel lonelier.

Speaker 1:

Maybe you get a coconut and name it Maurice.

Speaker 4:

Exactly. I will leave Maurice behind on the island, though.

Speaker 1:

All right, Mark the Joker or Ain't Seen Nothing Yet.

Speaker 2:

You know I've talked perry so many times about steve miller and we agree some of that stuff in the 70s steve miller did was so schmaltzy and the joker has to be the schmalt. That has got to be one of the worst songs I didn't like so yeah, you know who I'm going with. Yeah, there we.

Speaker 1:

There we go, ain't seen nothing yet. I think we got a clean sweep. I think Steve Miller was a little overrated. He was really good for his time. He had some good hits. He had some good solid music. Yeah, I saw him actually back up Journey and it wasn't bad. It wasn't bad. Steve Miller's greatest hits it's an okay greatest hits. Yeah, sure, he's in the Rock Hall of Fame, right?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I don't know that was a yeah he also. He told me to go F themselves.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they were right. He's right. Yeah, because I don't think he. But well, well, this is an age old, I'm gonna have to go with. Yeah, you ain't seen nothing yet, you know, because?

Speaker 4:

I'd rather have a baby than ma. You know, you know, you know. All right, here's something here's something.

Speaker 1:

Here's something that might get old and it doesn't have a life.

Speaker 2:

It might fucking get old can you imagine if your record skipped? That would drive me crazy.

Speaker 1:

Here's something okay, lou, the Doobie Brothers, blackwater think about this one or LaBelle, lady marmalade lady marmalade.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love the drums on that song and it was written by bob crew, the guy, the guy produced the four seasons. Ah, yep.

Speaker 1:

So Blackwater or Lady Marmalade Lady?

Speaker 4:

Marmalade. That is such a good fucking song. I like Blackwater. I mean. I never knew that was a doobie. That was one of our trivia questions on Music Relish about what year it was at number one.

Speaker 1:

It was at number one, that was 76, 75, 75?.

Speaker 2:

Started life as a B-side, too as a B-side. All right Mark.

Speaker 1:

Blackwater or Lady.

Speaker 2:

Marmalade. I love Lady Marmalade, but Blackwater, it's part of my youth haunting. I love it, so I'm going with Blackwater, no need to think oh okay. And I don't think much so it's easy for me.

Speaker 1:

They're both unique songs. Yeah, yes, they're really standout standalone songs. Yeah, in both groups' catalog, right, these are standout songs.

Speaker 4:

Blackboard has a complex vocal arrangement, a very complex vocal arrangement.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it has a lot of good mixing in there too yeah, clint john's talk, or dan, who is it that mixed it? Ted templeman talks about fading it out for that, and then.

Speaker 1:

But lady marmalade has more energy. It just gets an energetic song like right from the start. The beat the this, the their voices. I I mean the horns the story. They tell the story. It's a story, right, yeah? And Patti LaBelle is just like she's at her funkiest. I would have to say Lady Marmalade. I just think if I'm on a desert island I'm going to need that energy.

Speaker 4:

Exactly how you do, you know.

Speaker 1:

There's a lot of black water around you?

Speaker 4:

I don't want any water song.

Speaker 1:

Like we always say no wrong answers here, it's your playlist. All right, lou Lou, number five. No, this is number five. Number six you make the call Ohio Players Edition. You make the call love rollercoaster or fire, fire. Oh shit, love rollercoaster, oh shit. Love roller coaster.

Speaker 4:

Love roller coaster child. Say what, say what oh shit Off fire.

Speaker 1:

People look past Ohio players man.

Speaker 4:

Fire.

Speaker 1:

I love them.

Speaker 4:

Fire you like fire. Yeah, what the fuck.

Speaker 2:

You get the sirens at the beginning.

Speaker 4:

You get the sirens going at the beginning. Mark.

Speaker 2:

I would have a tougher time deciding, but the Red Hot Chili Peppers killed Love Rollercoaster.

Speaker 1:

I was just going to use good, I'm glad you said it. Yeah, they fucking destroyed that song. They destroy everything.

Speaker 2:

Fucking hacks If there's a band I don't like. Better than what was he saying? I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Everybody knows how much I feel about Green Day. Well, you know what? Fucking? The Red Hot Chili Peppers are right behind them. Yeah, I gotta go with fire. Yeah, I'm to go with fire.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

I'm glad I didn't hear the thing. I don't know where I got that thing.

Speaker 1:

All right, here we go. Lou, you make the call Play that funky music or car wash. Play that funky music. Why, boy, I'll take that one at the car wash.

Speaker 4:

Fucking play that funky music. Why, boy, play that funky music?

Speaker 2:

Mark, for me at the car wash's, good times, that's a happy song man, there are some weird people here today.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, our watch the movie. Yeah, yeah, um, when was the?

Speaker 4:

last time you watched that movie 1978 I think I did see it Franklin, franklin I J is in it.

Speaker 2:

Lou, you saw a movie. I thought you didn't see any movies, so the only way over here is I was eating it.

Speaker 4:

That was the eighties, okay.

Speaker 1:

A little lousy, I didn't see it, I didn't see it.

Speaker 4:

I didn't see it. I pulled that crap at work the other day. I'm like I said let. I'm like I said I listened to all the movies I haven't seen. They're like leave the building.

Speaker 1:

I have to go with. Dave Phillips King of the 45s worked at a car wash. Wow.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, did you get the car?

Speaker 1:

wash blues. Like Jim Croce, I have to go with car wash because I'm fucking sick of playing that funky music. Yeah, that's another white person fucking club song. They never play that.

Speaker 2:

Hey baby, Go on and drink.

Speaker 1:

Oh sorry, it's just like celebration. Black people don't play these songs. These are consummate white people songs.

Speaker 4:

They are Wasn't that song? Don't Bind White People. Is that the average white people songs? They are. Wasn't that a song? Don't Mind White People. Is that the average white?

Speaker 2:

band.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, they were Scottish yeah.

Speaker 2:

Can't get whiter than that Were they singing to themselves?

Speaker 4:

I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I don't know. So I got to go with Car Wash on that one. All right, lou, you make the call. This is what I call cheese. These are both cheese, 70s cheese. They were hits, but to me they're kind of cheese have some cheese rat. You make the call. Lou Desert Island. 10-song playlist. 70s gold. Over 70s cheese, babe, by Styx gold, I have a 70s cheese. Uh, babe by sticks, or mandy by barry mandolin. Go to hell.

Speaker 4:

Oh my god, didn't, chris?

Speaker 1:

kristofferson sing that song. In a star is born, you can go to hell oh, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that was the very beginning. I didn't see it.

Speaker 1:

I know, yeah that was from the very beginning.

Speaker 4:

Oh, look, look, I didn't see it. I didn't see it.

Speaker 2:

That was great when he did that. That was awesome, See.

Speaker 1:

I know stuff.

Speaker 2:

With that voice.

Speaker 3:

I'm not stupid like you guys think I'm smart and I want respect.

Speaker 2:

You've got respect. With that voice, you can go to hell. You can go to hell.

Speaker 4:

I don't have a coin on me to flip on this Babe, or?

Speaker 1:

Mandy, would you agree Cheese, 70s cheese? Would you put it in cheese or no?

Speaker 4:

Homage to the fromage my friend. We were driving around the car when I was married and my son was a baby. My stepson was like 8, 10. Sticks comes on and my ex loved it. I'm like like this is over and in the back of here this song sucks. So I'm not alone. I'm gonna go with barry manilow you're gonna go with mandy.

Speaker 2:

You're gonna go with mandy, all right, all right mark as a sticks fan and it's probably their worst song and it probably was the seed to disintegrate. But I gotta go with babe because it was a hit and I did enjoy it at one time. You'd hear it on.

Speaker 4:

Casey Kasem.

Speaker 2:

Babe, I'm leaving.

Speaker 1:

So I'm going with.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, babe.

Speaker 1:

I'd have to say sticks is in my top 10 most hated band, so I'm definitely not picking sticks, but Mandy is Mandy's one of those. You're alone in the car and you hear it and I need you today. Yeah, and you, just you, just you listen to the whole fucking thing you really hate sticks if you pick barry manilow over I don't like sticks, I don't, I don't I I like lenny I like renegade, although you said it sounds like pb herbert and I got sick of that too.

Speaker 1:

All right here, you go lou, here you go. Uh, you make the call 70s cheese or gold desert island. 10 song playlist. Uh, rich girl, rich girl by holland oats or the Eagles. New Kid in Town. Rich Girl by Hall Oates or New Kid in Town, the Eagles.

Speaker 4:

Eagles New Kid in Town. You have a habit of calling songs that I hear on my way home from work the night of the show. See connectedness.

Speaker 1:

Me and Mark don't have that connectedness, but me and you do Lou songs that I hear on my way home from work the night of the show. You've done this many times. Me and Mark don't have that connectedness, but me and you do Lou.

Speaker 4:

You've done this like 10 times already Because I keep saying I heard this on my way home from work. It sounds like bullshit, but it's not. Glenn Frey is a better singer than people gave credit for because Don Henley was in the band. That's a hard song to sing.

Speaker 2:

It's a great vocal too, but uh yeah, great song. Mark johnny, come lately new kid in town definitely I love that song.

Speaker 1:

All right well, I have to say that uh new kid in town is probably the gayest eagle song ever recorded.

Speaker 2:

Well, where's that synchronicity? You two have the new kid in time everybody's talking.

Speaker 1:

There's a new kid in time everybody's. That is the gayest eagle song ever recorded, ever I mean desperado is better than fucking new kid in. Desperado is a horrible song. Desperado Trying to be all cowboyish Shut the fuck up, Don Adler. But New Kid in Town is the gayest Eagle song ever so. I gotta go Rich Girl.

Speaker 2:

Rich Girl's a great song.

Speaker 1:

Because they say the word, they say bitch like seven times in that song.

Speaker 2:

It's a bitch girl, didn't?

Speaker 1:

they drop the N word in that song.

Speaker 4:

No, Does that mean just hearing things? That's Ricky Lee Jones.

Speaker 1:

That's right.

Speaker 4:

Dropped it twice.

Speaker 1:

Alright, last one, last one. This is a toughie, this one's a toughie. I saved the hardest for last, I think. I think so, lou, the 10th song in your 10 Desert Island playlist. 10th song in your Desert Island playlist. All right, you make the call Me and Mrs Jones, me and Mrs Jones. By what's his name? Bobby? No, paul, billy, paul, billy, paul, me and mrs jones by. Uh uh, what's his name? Bobby? No, paul, billy paul, billy paul, me and mrs jones, or papa was a rolling stone me and mrs jones oh, this is a tough one at the same time in the same cafe.

Speaker 2:

It's a tough one I'm just gonna go with what I'm more sick of, because they are both great songs, but I'm really sick of hearing me and mrs jones, it's been just overplayed, really. Yeah, I'll go with. Papa was wrong and I like the lyrics of that better.

Speaker 1:

Ah, it was the 4th of September. Yeah Right, yep, it's hard to beat though.

Speaker 3:

Me and.

Speaker 1:

Mrs Jones. Oh my God, mrs Jones, we got a thing going on. At the same time the same place the same cafe.

Speaker 4:

The same cheap hotel room. It's the same city motel, yeah Right.

Speaker 1:

That is a great song, right, it is a great song, right, it is a great song. And it's great like I had my. I had my, my stepdaughter and her friend in the car we were driving back from fort lauderdale.

Speaker 1:

After like a lunch or something, I'm on the beach and and uh has to be I agree, todd and I and you know you're the me and mrs jones, right and I'm playing and all of a sudden I know it's coming and I crank it right as he goes, and we were on the beach and I had all the windows down and she about melted in the car and I'm singing, mrs, mrs joe's, mrs joe's, but I have to go.

Speaker 1:

Papa was a rolling stone. Boom, boom, yeah, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. What a rhythm, yeah, and it just is a slow build on it. Yeah, yeah, so that's it, gentlemen, you make the call. That was a good one, that was really good. Yeah, those were good, those were good.

Speaker 4:

And we found out what the gayest Eagle song of all time is Absolute New Kid in Time. There's a new kid in time.

Speaker 1:

What could be gayer? I don't know. I don't know because I got this image in my head of all these guys at a gay bar going. There's a new kid in town, everybody's talking there's a new kid in town.

Speaker 4:

I don't want to hear it. There's a new kid in town, everybody, yeah. Well, you can put it in any scenario you want. You can put it in any scenario.

Speaker 1:

Why is everybody talking about the new kid in?

Speaker 2:

town because everybody has that.

Speaker 1:

Yet for two weeks you're the new kid in town yeah, and is there somebody in their bedroom touching them sorry, saying there's a new kid in town like is?

Speaker 4:

that right you tell? You tell us, scott, is that?

Speaker 1:

something. Is that a thing like who? What man writes a song about the new kid in town? Like a woman should write that song. What?

Speaker 2:

part that came from deep inside you those last few statements I go dark, buddy, I can. I can go deep and dark.

Speaker 1:

That came from deep inside you those last few statements.

Speaker 4:

I go dark buddy, I can go deep and dark, dark, dark I'll make you uncomfortable buddy. I'll make you uncomfortable. Great expectations.

Speaker 1:

Everybody's watching you. But what guy writes a song about a new kid in town Like come on, Talk about. Where did that come from?

Speaker 4:

Well, maybe he's singing, not like a new kid, like he was a new boy in town, like, come on, like, talk about where did that come from, maybe. Well, maybe he's thinking, not like a new kid, like he was a new boy in town, but maybe he was the top dog and there's a new top dog. There's a new challenge to this, oh joe walsh.

Speaker 2:

Joe walsh just came in, so maybe that's what it was about, you know. Yeah, he's all jealous, yeahvious. He can play guitar better than me.

Speaker 1:

I was the new kid once. It was me. All right, let's get into. Where are they now. Where are they now? Let's start with you, Mark. What do you got? Where are they now?

Speaker 2:

So I didn't really look up groups that just disappeared. I looked up artists or singular people. Me too. Yeah, it's okay disappeared.

Speaker 1:

I looked up artists or singular people, me too. Yeah, okay, I mean whatever you, whatever, whatever you got. And marie martin says he was new and pretty.

Speaker 4:

Oh jesus he was all dressed in leather with a leather studded cap and a leather vest and some chaps there's no pair of chaps that have an ass.

Speaker 1:

Hey, wait wasn't that rob halford was? Was he the new?

Speaker 4:

guy. I knew that in high school I think I was only getting high school like, yeah, he's good, I knew it.

Speaker 2:

I know with him rob's another daddy I saw them on the defenders of the faith tour and I'm looking, I'm like he's doing the. He was cool, but he was going like this and I'm like, yeah, I know it.

Speaker 4:

He should be singing New Kid in Time. You didn't reject, but you didn't reject the band no.

Speaker 2:

No, no, you know what. I heard him on Marc Maron's show talking. That was a great interview because he's telling these stories Like on stage I'm the king of metal. Well, I won't get into specifics. I kind of watching it now and I follow him on facebook. He loves to put cat videos up, so he puts videos thinking metal cats singing, you know all that all right.

Speaker 1:

Hey, he took a huge chance when he did that and he's a nice guy.

Speaker 4:

He's a nice guy yeah yeah, with that giveaway, hall of Fame, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

All right, Mark, give me a. Where are they now?

Speaker 2:

Okay, so you remember White Lion, wait, wait, remember that song? I think so.

Speaker 2:

I didn't see it when children cry. Remember that song? They were huge, they ruled the world. When did they rule the world? For like six months on MTV. They just they ruled the world. Where did they rule the world For like six months on MTV? They were, they were just big. That is six months of rain.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so the guitar player, vito Brada he, he sounded like Eddie Van Halen to a lot of people and he was on all the guitar magazines. But they were huge and his thing was he had auditioned for Ozzy Osbourne, along with many other guitarists when I went to Randy Rhodes, but he was from Queens, vito, and they hit it big and they broke up and for like the last I don't know how many years, almost 30 years you couldn't even Google his name. You would not see what he was doing. He totally dropped out of public view. It turned out that he made money from, I guess from White Lion, but he moved back.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry, he's from Staten Island. He moved back and he took care of his father who was sick, and I think now he's taking care of his mother and it was just like boom, I have no wanting to be in the music industry anymore. So he just totally stopped playing. So he came up for a couple interviews in the last few years, you know, but he said I haven't done anything, didn't even touch his guitar after being a guitar hero, and it's kind of a kind of a cool story. Like good for him, he walked away on his own terms, you know, I've heard of him.

Speaker 4:

I've heard of why I let. I don't. The songs didn't, titles didn't sound familiar, but I didn't, so they were. What year was that about?

Speaker 2:

wait, came out in 90 or maybe. Uh, actually you know it was, it was the hair metal time, so it's probably the early 90s. Yeah, because I bought it on cd, so it couldn't have been the 80s. Um, so it was like your early 90s, like you know, but they, yeah, they were huge. And then mike tramp Tramp, the singer, he had that. All the girls loved him. He had the long blonde hair and everything All right. Lou.

Speaker 4:

Arthur Brown.

Speaker 4:

Arthur Brown, the God of Hellfire, yeah, from the crazy world of Arthur Brown. Yep, he had never topped that success of the song Fire. That was a big hit. I think it was number one. You know he had never taught that success of the song fire. It was uh. No, but that was um, that was a big hit. I think it was number one. There was number one in UK, number two in the U S. I knew it was that. I knew it was popular. You know it's that popular Um, that album. It was produced by Kit Lambert. He produced a who right? Actually Pete Townsend was the associate producer. He was cool. I thought it was a cool song. I think I've heard that. Maybe one other song I've not heard the album the Crazy World of Arthur Brown, cool video. I think Karl Palmer is in the video, but that's not him playing.

Speaker 2:

Right, you told me that.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think the guy, the drummer, had a fear of flying an aviophobia. So that's how carl palmer got the gig and uh, but he was pretty cool. You know, the guy had a great voice. It was not he had this operatic voice, he was one like an early shock rockers. You know, makeup, uh, setting his hair in fire became a thing because it was an accident and I think he did in 2007 and he burned. Another member of the band caught fire oops sorry yeah, um, he played the priest in Tommy.

Speaker 4:

I think he had a scene where they were clapping. He was the priest in Tommy. He performed Fire on Solid Gold in 2007. He did it live, wow, yeah, although he kind of faded away. He was in a band called Kingdom Come after that, kind of like a Captain Beefheart eclectic thing, but you know, it looks like he's always played around a lot but completely dropped out of view. I saw in um, in the 80s I got a rolling stone magazine and they had a where are you now? Thing and it was him and he's on some place in northern california on the back of a deck with all these like power tools. He became a carpenter, started building these elaborate upscale decks for these big houses out there in the redwoods and, uh, he looked totally crazy, like this guy's got drills in each hand. He's working on your house. You know, um, he became a painter. So he got his uh, master's in therapy. So he started a company called healing songs therapy.

Speaker 4:

Arthur brown, yeah, yeah, what he does with a partner. So what he does, whatever patience he has, he writes a song about their emotional, whatever their issue is what they're going through. He writes a song about their emotional. Whatever their issue is whether they're going through, he writes a song about it for them. Uh, so interesting guy, though, but he's, throughout the years, he's reformed aspects of the crazy world of Arthur Brown, uh, the band kingdom come. So he's been in and out there, but he's done some pretty cool, pretty cool profile gigs, but, you know, not active, and we actually, and we actually actually did. He put out an album out in, I think, 2022 all right called the long, long road.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, um, he was also in uh 2019. He was a guest vocalist on carl palmer's elp legacy tour. Uh, evidently he sang carnival nine oh, wow yeah wrong song that's that's, that's, that's um hocus pocus by focus, focus.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, welcome back my friends that's a funny video to see, though, uh the band for non-blondes right saw them open for aerosmith. The lead singer, linda perry, right, one hit wonders. I got it. I got a list of one hit wonders. Where are they now? So, linda perry um, they had that one big hit and that's a song. I just fucking got sick of that. But oddly enough, she sounded like Jeanette Neapolitano from Concrete Blonde. She sounded just like her man. I thought it was the same band.

Speaker 4:

Right the blonde record it's amazing.

Speaker 1:

She sounded just like her and I don't know how they got the hit. And Concrete Blonde only had kind of minor hits with Joey and that song what's Going On right. Yeah, then they do the song what's Going On right. So they didn't get really anything after that. That was it. But into the 2000s, linda Perry she was behind some of the biggest hits of the 2000s, including Pink's Get the Party Started. That was a big hit. Christina Aguilera's Beautiful and Gwen Stefani's what you Waiting For and Gwen Stefani's what you Waiting For. So she was also responsible for signing a one-hit wonder, james Blunt, in the 2000s, and she was inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame in 2015. Wow, yeah, so good for her Cha-ching.

Speaker 4:

Yeah Cha-ching. So that's the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame song. Are they associated?

Speaker 1:

The songwriters' Hall of Fame. No, I don't think they're associated.

Speaker 4:

I don't think so. Do they have the same 25-year criteria?

Speaker 1:

Well.

Speaker 4:

Has it been 25 years since what's going on? I don't think it's been 25 for her.

Speaker 1:

I think they might just be like you hit a certain plateau and right, you know, you, you start writing hits left and right for other people yeah, for other people. And you're a songwriter, yeah, you know like holly knight and all the resurrected irishman's career yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

mark, I'm gonna go with john deacon of queen now. He was the bass player who just stood there and if anyone anyone doesn't know Queen, he wrote some of their biggest hits. He wrote Another One Bites the Dust, you're my Best Friend. He was a monster in that band. But after Freddie Mercury died he only played the Freddie Mercury tribute concert in 92. Then in 93, he helped raise funds for King Edward's Hospital alongside Roger Taylor and then finally in 97, mcqueen performed with Elton John to do the Show Must Go On at the opening of the Béjar Ballet in Paris. And then after that he disappeared. They say you can't even find a Google image like a picture of him anywhere. He totally disappeared. All that money just scrubbed me.

Speaker 1:

Well, they said Scrubbed me from the internet.

Speaker 2:

He's got an estimated net worth of well over $100 million because he wrote some of their biggest hits.

Speaker 1:

He probably said scrub me, I don't want to be bothered.

Speaker 2:

He was also always a kind of a reluctant rock guy. The music business is tough, but they were doing it and he genuinely loved freddie mercury. So I think when freddie died he just said I'm out, you know, I'm not gonna yeah, of course the band wasn't ever gonna be the same.

Speaker 4:

Yeah what do you do do after queen? You know he goes a little side. What do you have to do? You don't have to do anything. Yeah, you didn't do anything.

Speaker 1:

Fun gigs, you know, yeah, you can do like what jason newead did with Metallica, like he made millions with Metallica. He's like I'm just going to play in these small clubs with a new band and have fun yeah. You know, and kind of helps them along. So I always wondered how that dynamic goes. You got the multi, multi, multi-millionaire. You got to think Jason Newstead's probably worth $10 million, right? Maybe Probably more than that, more. Okay, so we'll estimate $10, $15 million, $20 million, whatever he's worth.

Speaker 2:

Do they credit all four members when they write a song? Yeah, yeah, so he's yeah.

Speaker 4:

I said I'm not sure they do, but if they do, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So he grabs these guys, a lady that likes them, start a band, right, he knows the deal. He's not just going to light it up like hey, I'm Jason Newstead, I need to go to number one, right. And you're tall with this guy and he's like not a worry in the world and you're the, you know you're the lead guitar player, lead singer, or whatever. And you're the, you know you're the lead guitar player, lead singer or whatever, and you're like I'm making gig money. Yeah, I wonder how that dynamic works. Like, does he have like this okay, I'll take care of the transportation, yeah, hotel, the hotel and the buses, you know, maybe because he's not just gonna give, give his money away, right, you know, just to have like fun, like that, cause that's expensive. Yeah, yeah, you know, does he like drop them off the motel six and then he goes to the front of Ritz.

Speaker 4:

Yes, right you know, I'll meet you at the next gig.

Speaker 1:

You're going to take the bus I'm flying Like. I wonder how those dynamics work.

Speaker 4:

Right, like I wonder how those dynamics work, right. So, yeah, uh, who's next? Lou, interesting um, bill berry from rem. Oh, yeah, whatever happened to bill berry? So well, where is he now? Where is he now? Well, as of, was it 2022?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, he started a band again um 2022, called the bad ends, with some local ash um, with the, where they from athens and atlanta, kind of guys that were big in the indie scene but were like unsung heroes. Uh, we, we listened to the album last year mark and I'm, yeah, a good record, good, solid record. It was good to hear bill on the drums again. Yeah, um, a couple good songs. You know, nothing, like I said, nothing is gonna compares to rem or any of these other guys that they're at their peak, but it's good to see them, you know, playing and being interesting, but yeah. So after he left rem, he became a hay farmer. He bought some land in athens early on in their career. He said for like 2000 an acre. So he bought 60, 60 acres, like a thousand to two thousand, and so he goes. He was gonna make an investment that became his thing. So it became like a hay farmer. I think he grew soybeans. Uh, he did, you know some charity work like there.

Speaker 4:

When I lived in barnesville it was rumored that on the stretch of road that the county road I lived on there was a big track. There was kind of an absolute. It was either owned by bill barry or bill baron, his first wife. So when I first moved there, there has there was festivals like little gatherings that they had done at this place and the rumor was that Mary Berry was the owner of the property. Oh, wow, yeah, yeah, he's a good drummer, though Very underrated. One of those guys and Peter Buck said he goes. There's no other drummer like Bill Berry on earth. He goes. It looks simple but it's not. I've seen videos. I'm like I wouldn't expect him to do that and it doesn't sound like it, but you know if it's just in other drummers that took his place in the band said not as easy as you think what he did, like the little rhythmic things. But yeah, so he just kind of he left the business, he goes. He doesn't vacation, he just he stays in where he is, he goes.

Speaker 4:

I traveled all over the world and you know, I think getting on airplanes was probably one of the reasons he might have had an aneurysm. That was the killer tour. They all got sick except Peter Buck. That was on the Monster tour, so he left after New Adventures in Hi-Fi in 97. But I guess he resurfaced, and this year the actor Michael Shannon and some other musician, jason Narducci they formed a band so they're touring doing the whole REM Murmur record. So I think they played Athens and all the guys in REM got up except for Stipe. But Bill Berry played the piano on Perfect Circle, one of the songs he wrote for the band, and so it was good to see Bill back.

Speaker 1:

All right.

Speaker 2:

By the way, by the way, lou's road that he lived on in Bernardsville when I drove there with Perry. We get off the main highway and this road just goes on and on. It goes up and up and up. I expected to see the Shining Hotel. We get to his place. It's still paved. I remember that day he said okay, go for a walk, okay we walk.

Speaker 4:

Literally, what is it? 20 feet after your driveway it's a quarter mile. And then it's a quarter mile and then it's the biggest section of unpaved gravel road in north carolina. It goes up and it's like an intestine. It goes down into a pensacola. I used to jam with a guy lived up at the bit at the base of mount mitchell. I'd ride this road. I said what if I break down here? Man, I had a knife and shit. But one day I saw I think it was an armadillo, this thing weird, this creature crossed the road. I. I said what the fuck? We're not supposed to say that what was it?

Speaker 4:

it's no, I got it perry has that rule, but I don't. Okay, I'm the marxist and we were banned from the effort I was talking about.

Speaker 2:

Whatever the fuck you want to say, yeah anyway, interesting stretch of road, spooky as hell though um, we're walking and we look down this hole or whatever, and lou goes by the way, they found a body down there. Remember I was like oh, you know.

Speaker 1:

So, john john, my buddy, john cash, 25 years and my life is still, and lyrics, those lyrics 25 years, my life is still mandy, is it Mandy?

Speaker 2:

I can hear 25 years and my life is still. Oh, it sounds familiar.

Speaker 1:

It sounds familiar but I don't know. So. Before gorillas, before gorillas, who was the most successful fictional band ever? Ever, archies, archies, yep, and they probably minded the least of like every one-hit-one-to-band in the world, like they didn't give a shit. They were like, hey, you know, I'll take it. So that came out in 69. But after that, after the Archies kind of you know moved on the fictional band. They still go today. Four Non Blondes, 25 years of my life, is still that's what it is. That's the first line. There you go. I stopped listening to that song eight years ago. I don't ever want to hear it again. So they went on. But it still lives on in the comic books. Yeah, you know, and CW had that show, riverside, right? Yeah, or.

Speaker 1:

Riverdale, riverdale, that's right. So they continued to have careers in music after that, where Ron Dante became Barry Manilow's record producer. Cha-ching, wow. Jeff Barry wrote some of the most iconic songs of all time, like River Deep, mountain High, the Do-Run-Run and Christmas Baby, please Come Home. Wow, yeah, cha-ching.

Speaker 4:

Do you think?

Speaker 1:

like every November, the money just starts rolling in. Yeah Right. Just rolling in Every version of that song. He gets paid for.

Speaker 4:

He wrote with his wife Ellie Greenwich. I guess, yeah, they were a brill building, so he's one of those guys.

Speaker 1:

And Tony Wine sang backing vocals on Willieie nelson's always on my mind, yeah, yeah. So the the archies did pretty good for themselves as studio studio musicians, but uh, each one of. Well, I don't know about tony wine, he sang on one song but backing vocals with the other two cha--ching motherfucker.

Speaker 2:

And I still say Sugar, sugar is one of the best songs ever written.

Speaker 1:

Ah, it's one of the greatest one-hit moments, they didn't make a penny off it, but yeah. Yeah, all right Mark.

Speaker 2:

Agnetha Faltzkag. Oh Jesus, the blonde from ABBA.

Speaker 1:

Ah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Right. So when they broke up or she went on hiatus or whatever, she did a couple solo albums, but she totally disappeared and there's a lot of abba fans around the world that follow oh, yeah, yeah, yeah that's two guys.

Speaker 2:

They did chests and I remember knowing people, oh chest, the greatest album ever written. I'm like, all right, all right, you know um, but she I think she had a falling out of that. But because you know, they had a revival with um mama mia, so they did an appearance with the cast of mama mia, but she appeared on a balcony with the cast but she was never with the band.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, kind of strange you know well, you get sick of them, motherfuckers. That's, I'm sure what she was thinking. Yeah, it's like frankie to Hollywood just did a. They played one song recently. I think we talked about this a couple of weeks back. They played at a festival, right and they came out and they did Welcome to the Pleasure Dome and they were great. You can watch the video on YouTube. They were great. Holly Johnson still looks video on YouTube. They were great. Holly Johnson still looks good. Still sounds good. They were spot on. But they could not wait to get the fuck off the stage. They only sang one song and everybody was kind of like some people loved it. You got to at least see that.

Speaker 1:

It's a great song to see because it's a long. It's like a nine-minute song. Could you see? They weren't into it, though no, no, they didn't show any hostility, nope, they. They did their thing and I don't, you know, I don't. There's one song, so how much can you really interact with somebody?

Speaker 4:

on stage. How much preparation did they have to do to do that one?

Speaker 1:

song. Well, they did it.

Speaker 2:

You know you have to have preparation yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, but uh, I'm sure she felt the same way with abba, like you know what she did? Turns out that she just she had a fear of flying, so she just settled in a small town, yeah, yeah and she. She said that she focuses on astrology, yoga and horseback riding.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, he has adiaphobia.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's it. You know people who fly a lot. Some of them get it because you, I know, if you fly constantly, chances are you're something bad.

Speaker 4:

Law of averages, one of the reasons why Gene Clark left the birds, oh really.

Speaker 1:

I'll tell you you want to work a job. That's a law of averages. Do what I did Work a fucking bomb dog. I got calls. It was not a boring job. I was southern california and I did secret service support for the president, yeah, and vice president, foreign dignitaries. When you're a bomb dog, you know that is a fucking law of averages, joe.

Speaker 2:

I'm thinking of the bugs bunny cartoon where he's testing missiles or nuclear bombs no good no good lou.

Speaker 4:

Um, there's an obvious one. But I found out some cool stuff. Uh, pete best, you know the drummer that was sacked from the beatles. You know the whole story. You know he claimed to. You know it didn't deserve it, all this other stuff. And you know he did little bands. You know nothing failed. He became a civil sir, civil service guy. He became someone in trained workers like I guess they they're big regional unemployment offices he became a trainer. So he had a civic civil service job. But I found out he you know he was defending his abilities and this and that and we got busted on music relish for a version of love me do. That showed he had some serious tempo problems. But in the early 60s a lot of drummers that were your live drummer did not go into the studio.

Speaker 4:

But he definitely could not go. I mean they did that but it was bad. But so when the beatles did the anthology series is that 95, maybe 95, 96, these 10 pete best songs that he played on? And mccartney claims to have called him and said, look, you're on these 10 songs, but these songs have to be righted. And I think what he meant with that. Maybe they somehow managed to manipulate the tempo so it wasn't so shitty, because if you think about it, I mean the quality of their demos are great, the beatles demos. Why would they throw something on with peep as it would be embarrassing really. I think to him yeah, um, so he got between 10 and 15 million pounds for that. So he made some money off that in the in the nineties and but I didn't realize that he had a suicide attempt in the sixties.

Speaker 4:

The whole beetle thing his mother and brother found and stop him, it was these. What do you think about? I said, yeah, it's a sympathetic thing. You know, he was not up to it. He was not up to that gig. He could not. The drummer in the sergeant pepper record, right, you know. His complaining aside, I felt a little more sympathy because of that. That's a pretty crushing blow. I mean him having to live with that through the 60s and you know. But he was compensated for. But he claims mccartney didn't call him about the anthology series that maybe one of the beetle managers did that kind of thing yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Well, you never with rock stars, you never know who's who's telling the truth.

Speaker 4:

Yeah you know publicists yeah, well, he claims to you know the beatles. Actually, you know, uh was his name. Uh, brian epstein was the guy that told pete he was out of the band. You know, wasn't? Yeah, the guys themselves.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, uh, bobby boris pickett, bobby Boris Pickett of Monster Mash fame right.

Speaker 2:

Wow.

Speaker 1:

If that's not a master class at making a career out of one hit he was the king of just milking a one hit. Oh yeah, because it was built in for him. It was built in every single year around Halloween. Yeah, you're going to be asked to do something somewhere, no doubt about it, and your song is going to get played, not so much today as it did back in the 70s, right In the 80s, in the 70s, right in the 80s.

Speaker 2:

Um, but uh, his song that song monster mash chatted three times in his lifetime. Three times. I hope you got money out of it not something?

Speaker 1:

oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you know he was always in demand to perform the song. He had spinoffs like monsters holiday and monster rap, right it was like the twist.

Speaker 2:

It was kind of like one of those.

Speaker 1:

He did it all the way up to 2006 and uh and it it made it right up to like right. He died in april uh, and so it shot it in 2006 and he died in april 2007. It's 69, it's only 69, oddly enough, though. Oddly enough, he once broke down. His car broke down in a town called frankenstein.

Speaker 2:

It's frankenstein yeah but how, how? I mean how?

Speaker 3:

ironic, really, you know, like, like elena sparsett would say isn't it ironic?

Speaker 1:

don't you think it's ironic. That song is just full of not irony bad fucking luck there's no irony in that song. I don't care what anybody says, you could bring each scenario down. There's no fucking irony. It's moronic. Yeah, you buy the fucking lottery ticket, then you get in a fucking plane crash. That's not ironic. The guy's afraid to fly and he gets on the plane because that's bad fucking luck. That song is way out of out of whack.

Speaker 2:

All right, mark um hold on, hold on. I don't want him caught me in mid-pour um danny kirwin from platewood mac. He was part of them when they had okay, this is, this is pre.

Speaker 2:

This is before uh stevie nicks, but he almost made it to the bob Welch era, which was that was the precursor to their pop. The Bob Welch era was really good, underestimated by many. One of the last times the band he famously got, he had a temper in the dressing room, smashed his last ball and refused to go on stage, which is you don't do that to your band. So they kicked him out. They fired him. He did a couple solo albums in the 70s. He was living with mental illness as a result.

Speaker 2:

Many guys in Fleetwood Mac had issues when they took LSD and had bad trips. It happened to Peter Green, it happened to the other guitar player. So something was going on. By the 80s he was homeless and he was living just hand to mouth. And in 1980, when Fleetwood Mac played London, mick Fleetwood found out that he was sleeping on a park bench and he felt horrible about it and I think he wanted to help him. But they lost track of him again.

Speaker 2:

In 1993, mick Fleetwood contacted the Missing Persons Bureau in London. He tracked him down and he was living in the St Mungo's Community Hostel and all his belongings were in a little backpack and that's all he had. And uh, that's how he lived the rest of his life and, uh, till the day he died, he died in the hostel and um, you know, he said he he never had a home since he left flea with mac and flew with mac he had money at a house. He never wanted to have a house again. That's a sad instance of where are they now? Because he just, you know, disappeared and there's no real. I think mick said in his autobiography he wasn't getting that much royalties from you know those, those old flew mac albums. They weren't big sellers but and their big thing, oh well, that was peter green, you know wherever that one he wrote that. So, um, but yeah, sad, all right lou.

Speaker 4:

Is that english acid? I'm out. I had. I said the three, I'm out, I'm okay oh, del shannon, del shannon uh-huh oh, wait, wait, wait what do we got here hold on hold?

Speaker 1:

on. Let's see something incoming call yeah, yeah, hold on one second, hold on, let's. Let's try something here. Hold on, we got, we have something. We have something here. Let's see. Here we go. Let's see, wait a minute, hello, hello. Who's this? Hello, hello. Is this the king of Facebook? Hello, who's this? Hello, hello.

Speaker 3:

Hello, is this the king of Facebook?

Speaker 1:

I think you're calling the wrong show.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I'm very, very sorry.

Speaker 1:

What do you want?

Speaker 3:

What's going on, man, oh everybody it's Jack.

Speaker 2:

All right Hi everybody.

Speaker 3:

What's going on? Hey, jack, jack All right, Hi everybody.

Speaker 4:

What's going on, hey, jack.

Speaker 1:

Jack. Jack's calling in Fucking wow. Big fucking wow. Hey, can you hear the audience going crazy Jack.

Speaker 3:

They're just going nuts. I can hear it Actually I can't hear it. I'm driving through a torrential rainstorm right now. Gee, that's too bad. It's 77 down here in Florida. Sorry, I'm driving through a torrential drain, a rainstorm right now.

Speaker 1:

See, that's too bad. It's 77 down here in Florida, so sorry, sorry.

Speaker 3:

Well, I left this. I left the sunny skies of new Orleans this morning.

Speaker 1:

Oh okay, New Orleans, the city that smells like piss.

Speaker 4:

Vomit.

Speaker 3:

Wait a minute, I thought that was New York. Oh, oh, oh.

Speaker 2:

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1:

Whoa, whoa, hey, jack, I'm gonna put you on the spot right now. Give me off the top of your head, give me a. Where are they now? Do you know of any artists Like that were big in the day and then like what they're doing today? Do you ever have those kind of odd facts rolling around in that fucking giant head of yours, is it?

Speaker 3:

big. I mean, are you seeking an answer in terms of where they are now?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like you know what are they doing, like you know, I was just talking about Del Shannon and then you know that's the topic tonight.

Speaker 3:

Where are they now? Well, Del Shannon's dead.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, thanks for ruining the end of my story. Oh man, I didn't know how it was going.

Speaker 3:

You ruined my story. I'm sure your story was ruined long before I called in. You're a jerk. You're a jerk, Do you know? Well, I think my favorite story, and people have probably already, you know, seen it on the Internet and I'm sure that you've probably already talked about it. Maybe we talked about it. It was, you know, Creed from the Office. Oh, talked about it. It was Creed from the office. Have you told that story?

Speaker 1:

No, that's a good one, though I think we did talk about that. It comes up. It came up a couple times, but yeah, that's a good one. Tell us Creed.

Speaker 4:

Batten.

Speaker 3:

So Creed, that was in the office. I don't know what he's doing now, but obviously he had a long run as one of the more minor characters in the American version of the Office. But Creed was the I can't remember if it was the guitar player or the bass player in the grassroots, yeah. So they had a couple of hits. Oh, they did, did. Yeah, they were kind of kind of popular. And then my understanding is that he had a bad acid trip one night and was just playing his own thing and he got booted from the band dude, how great.

Speaker 1:

If he's crazy in that show like the character he plays has to be part of his personality, because it is one of the greatest characters, I think, in TV history as a sub-character not a main character, Deb Deb, absolutely Deb's favorite character in the Office. Oh, my God.

Speaker 3:

He doesn't have a lot of lines, he doesn't have a lot of pods, but every time he's on he fucking kills.

Speaker 1:

He steals the scene, he steals every scene. He's in Hands down, stole every scene. So how fucking crazy, or how funny, was that dude back in the day on acid, or smoking weed.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, he must have been hilarious. So here are a couple of them. Where do you think Terrence Trent Darby is these days?

Speaker 1:

Well, he's got some fucking name like Sifrana Sexyana. He changed his name. He lives in England. Even if you look up wishing well, you can't look under Terrence Trent Darby. I know he was his own worst enemy. Yeah, um, he, I know he was he. He was his own worst enemy. Um, yeah, he. He was supposed to be like the next big big deal, like I don't know, but today, uh, I think he's still recording, isn't he? I don't know, I haven't heard of anything that he's put out in decades.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I, I, he's, I, I believe he still does record, but he never reached that pinnacle of wishing well. He had another hit after that, a minor hit, but then he just went on this weird trip and he changed his name and it was kind of like what Cat Stevens did. I guess you could say it's almost in that same light.

Speaker 3:

He went on a spiritual journey and changed his name and followed a different path. Hey, if it makes you happy, that's great.

Speaker 1:

I believe he did keep recording but he never reached that. That again he was. His arrogance was his downfall just like, just like yours.

Speaker 2:

Jack didn't, didn't he say he was more popular than the beatles or disparaging david bowie or something like that yeah, he said his line was.

Speaker 3:

His line was his second album. I don't even remember the title. He went out and said that it was better than Sgt Peppers oh, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And then they compared him to like the next, like I forget what artist he was supposed to really have. He had a big future, but he just got too cocky. Yeah, that's where he's at. Who else, who else you got?

Speaker 3:

I don't know that artist.

Speaker 1:

I don't know that guy.

Speaker 3:

Fred Flintstone.

Speaker 1:

That's Fred Flintstone. Well, he died, he's dead. See, I ruined your story too.

Speaker 4:

He died in the Paleolithic age, I think.

Speaker 1:

Big Head Todd DeWitt Sprocket said that Terrence Trentiabi said he was better than Elvis. Which Elvis Taunt Elvis Taunt, elvis. From Dred Zeppelin.

Speaker 3:

He was nowhere as good as any of the Elvises out there. I loved Terrence Trent. I'm one of the few idiots that I actually saw him on. I don't know if it was his first tour, but I saw him at the City Club in Boston. It was great.

Speaker 1:

See, while you were watching him, while you were smoking dope going to concerts, I was overseas carrying a gun for this country. So that's that for that.

Speaker 3:

You were overseas drinking and Whatever else I was doing. Pouring around, pouring and fighting. Pouring and fighting.

Speaker 1:

But when I wasn't doing that, I was carrying a gun for this country, yeah, so country, yeah, so there. Hey, jack, I got to kind of go off topic for a second. You know who just came on the screen.

Speaker 3:

Wait a minute. Did you ever have to shoot your gun?

Speaker 1:

No, Fortunately no. Fortunately no no.

Speaker 3:

All right. So who came on the screen.

Speaker 1:

Bob Delcor, bobby D, who came on the screen Bob Delcor, Bobby D oh my.

Speaker 3:

God I can still remember Bob Delcor walking around with a fucking Calvary hat on his head.

Speaker 1:

Went to high school, my buddy Bob D, wore this fucking Confederate fucking hat. The brim goes up and it's got the crossed fucking rifles like a corporal agon. No, no I agon had a regular hat like. These are the round ones with the little, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4:

Like those fucking civil wars. It was like a pony soldier, it was like the confederate baseball yeah I remember that that Holy shit.

Speaker 3:

Holy shit, how can I not remember that my whole exposure to Bob Delcourt was with that fucking hat.

Speaker 1:

Bob's, my oldest friend, I'm not criticizing him.

Speaker 3:

No, it was funny, I'm not criticizing him.

Speaker 1:

No, no, no, it was funny, I forgot all about that hat, yeah.

Speaker 3:

It's kind of cool, kind of different. I don't remember if it was blue or gray.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, probably gray. In this case, bob D's my oldest friend. He was my best friend when we were like six. Yeah Me and Bob D. Like six. Yeah Me and Bob D. Good guy, yeah, I used to beat him up. Then he would chase me with sticks and throw rocks at me. That was our friendship when we were six.

Speaker 3:

But that was almost everybody.

Speaker 1:

But not you, Jack. You escaped that rap, I think.

Speaker 3:

No, I was. You escaped it. I was afraid of you.

Speaker 1:

Alright, so what else what?

Speaker 3:

It took me years to realize what a pussy you are.

Speaker 1:

Right, I at least put on a good front, I put on a good front, I put on a good front. Yes, yes, jack, whatever happened to Devo, do you know?

Speaker 3:

Devo. They have scattered dates. This summer. They're celebrating, kind of the end of the road, 50 years of the evolution. They're still out there doing it. They've lost a couple of members I think there's two of them that I think have have passed um, but I know that they're playing a few dates. I know they're playing a festival. There's a cruel world festival that's happening in california that they're a part of uh, and the reason I know this is I'm dying to see devo one more time, but they they are not coming anywhere near boston, as far as I know, not yet did you know they were?

Speaker 1:

they were a brothers group, a set, two sets of brothers. A lot of people didn't know that. Yeah sure, yeah sure, but uh I think I've shared my.

Speaker 3:

I think I've shared my favorite devo. You know story um, where they played max's k City and after the show there's back in the humble days and the beginning of Devo. They were touring in a van, like many bands did back in the day, and they were sitting in the back of the van, probably getting high or whatever, and somebody popped their head into the driver's side door and said oh no, we are Devo, d-e-v-o and it was John Lennon.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, oh wow, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3:

Mark Mothers, I think the other he was at Kent State, yeah, when the whole shooting occurred, so was.

Speaker 1:

Chrissy Hine. Chrissy Hine's boyfriend got shot and Joe Walsh was there too. Yeah, yeah, chrissy Heinz' boyfriend got shot. But Mark Mothersbaugh had a pretty good career after Devo. He has over 225 credits as a composer. He did the Rugrats Crash Bandicoot video games. Dawson's Creek. The Lego movie the Royal Tannenbaums.

Speaker 2:

He hooked up with the director, the guy that did Batman. What was his name? Tim Burton, tim Burton. He hooked up with him for a lot of movies.

Speaker 3:

Danny Elfman. Oh wrong guy, that's Danny Elfman. Yeah, danny Elfman is kind of in that vein. He's done a ton of work. He was the guy from Oingo Boingo.

Speaker 1:

See that Mark Jack just fucking punked you. Oh, of course I'm honored to be punked. You're such an asshole. I don't want to be punked by you I want to be punked by Jack hey Lou, these two fucking pacifists you can't get them mad.

Speaker 2:

Is it pacifist or pacifist aggressive?

Speaker 1:

You two should have your own podcast.

Speaker 3:

You guys probably don't know this band, but there was a band from I can't remember if they were from England or they were from Wales that Deb and I loved their first album. It was called the Laws, the Laws yeah. They were the ones that did that.

Speaker 1:

Here we go, there she goes again. I married.

Speaker 2:

Nocturne.

Speaker 3:

That's very good. Yeah, that record. Believe it or not, in my opinion there's a lot of great stuff on there. And after that record he never wrote another thing. His name was Lee Mavers, not Lee Majors.

Speaker 1:

That's a $6 million man. Wrote songs. The fall guy. He's the $6 million man. He's not the fall guy.

Speaker 3:

Lee Mavers, and I think he's like a bricklayer now.

Speaker 1:

Wait, wait, wasn't he fucking Gomer Pyle? Wasn't he Gomer Pyle?

Speaker 4:

Jim.

Speaker 3:

Nabors. No, that's Jim Nabors, oh, okay.

Speaker 1:

I thought Gomer Pyle sang that song. Holy shit, gomer Pyle's in Full Metal Jacket. Well, although Gomer Pyle did have a great voice, jim Nabors did have a fucking great voice.

Speaker 2:

He had a set of pipes on him. Oh boy, my father knocked him down in an airport.

Speaker 4:

What's that?

Speaker 3:

My father knocked him down in an airport. There's that funny scene. There's that funny. There's that funny scene in me myself and Irene, where Jim Carrey is, is sitting with his three African American young boys that were obviously fathered by somebody other than him, and they're watching Gomer Pyle and they're watching him sing.

Speaker 1:

It's kind of hilarious, yeah, yeah well, lou, just Lou's got a great story, evidently because his father knocked down, knocked over gym neighbors in an airport. So, lou, where the fuck did that come from?

Speaker 4:

It was an accident. He was turned a corner or something. I think my stepmother and I were rushing to catch either a cab or a plane. Anyway, it was an accident. My father either backed into him or just it happened to be a bad timing and he actually fell on the ground. He assaulted Jim Nabors. He assaulted Jim Nabors.

Speaker 2:

Did Rock Hudson come to his rescue?

Speaker 4:

Oh, what was the sergeant's name?

Speaker 1:

What was the drill? Sergeant's name? Sergeant.

Speaker 4:

Carter.

Speaker 1:

Sergeant Carter. That's right, sergeant Carter.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah, jim Nabors was appearing at a. He was doing a show that night, so my father and stepmother happened to be there.

Speaker 1:

And as he's walking through the crowd, he saw my dad and he goes no, no, no, no, no. Hey, jack, you know whatever happened to Falco?

Speaker 3:

Eddie Falco was in the Sopranos.

Speaker 1:

Come on, rock me, amadeus Whatever happened to Falco.

Speaker 3:

One hit wonder, probably trying to live off his residuals in social security, or whatever their form of it is, in Berlin he's dead.

Speaker 1:

He did die Falco's dead. He died in 1998. His car hit a bus in the Dominican Republic. He was quite the booze hounding coke fiend. Evidently that explains it. Chuck, chuck Snort, a rock me, amadeus Snort a rock yeah. Alright, what else you got? What else you got Jack? You got anything else?

Speaker 3:

Are we keeping you company during the rainstorm. I'm literally pulling onto my street, so I'm going to hang up. In like two seconds I can see my wife all week.

Speaker 1:

That's too bad. I was hoping. See, just when I thought you were going to stay now.

Speaker 3:

I'm very disappointed we're going to play Now. I'm very disappointed.

Speaker 1:

Deb and I are going to play our own little game of where are they now? I can't believe Jack's leaving. Oh, I mean, wait a minute, that's not right.

Speaker 3:

Hilarious. All right, buddy.

Speaker 1:

Super hilarious. Thanks for the pop in. Bye guys.

Speaker 3:

See you.

Speaker 4:

Jack.

Speaker 1:

There you go. Jack did a call and he can't. He can't stay away.

Speaker 2:

He drove from new Orleans to Boston.

Speaker 1:

No, he flew and he he drove to, uh, from Boston to New Hampshire. Yeah, um, let's see. Uh, I don't know, do you got anything, mark, you got any more?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I don't know, Do you got anything, Mark?

Speaker 2:

Do you got any more? Yeah, yeah, yeah, hold on yeah.

Speaker 4:

Bill Withers, I can open my window this is Alan Rickman.

Speaker 2:

I want to nominate Bill Withers. To where are they now. Bill Withers just didn't do anything for a while Now. He disappeared. He just walked away from the music scene. He didn't like the music business, he hated Columbia Records. But he had some massive hits, he sure did.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, all right. Even when he first got signed he had a pretty good job apparently. So he distrusted the music business. So even it took him a while to say you can leave your day job bill. You know you're racking up hits, you know, but uh, but it was kind of like a unusually smart thing to do. You know, a sensible thing for most musicians. Artists will take the, the brass ring but dave phillips king of the 45s.

Speaker 1:

It's past his bedtime night. Dave, that's my bedtime too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, most of those 45s on it's past his bedtime. Night, dave Night, dave Past my bedtime too. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Post those 45s on Facebook. That's it. That's it, hey, nina. Nina, you know what happened to Nina. 99 Luft balloons.

Speaker 2:

She sold her armpit hair to charity.

Speaker 1:

Hey, I would have sniffed her armpits, absolutely I would have sniffed her armpits. Don't shave them. Definitely I would have brushed her legs too. She was a hottie. I would have braided those armpits.

Speaker 2:

And I would have sniffed them. Are you, john Cusack? You're like John Cusack.

Speaker 1:

Hairy legs. I want to sniff that German girl's hairy armpits. I want to lick your hairy armpits. Even up to today, she's still a pop star over in germany, really in european countries.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, she's sold over 25 million records damn yeah, you don't need america to be a success. You know a lot, of a lot of people think we know like when tanked in America they were still huge international. You're not a failure necessarily.

Speaker 1:

There's American bands like the Dandy Warhols very successful in Europe, tito and Tarantula very successful in Europe. The Brian Jones-style Mask are very successful in Europe. There's a lot of bands that leave America and go over there and they just become a big deal over there and they make money on the pop front Toto for years.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I saw him at BB Kings where you could fit 200 people in a room. They're playing hockey arenas in Germany you know, yeah, edwin.

Speaker 4:

Starr, yeah, he had a couple hits here, but he was went to England and he was huge, he was revered yeah yep yep, uh, let's see. Uh right said fred she's all right said fred, he's dead.

Speaker 1:

He's dead right for my cat, too sexy for my cat. Pussy cat on the catwalk. On the catwalk. I do my little dance on the catwalk.

Speaker 4:

You're so incredible having a hit, though you know what You're so incredible for having a hit, though. You know what's that You're so incredible for having a hit? Hey, listen, it was a catchy song novelty song it was played in the clubs.

Speaker 1:

I was still going to clubs and then that shit came on. It was just a fun song. You can't take it seriously. I had a friend that hated that fucking song. I was like you can't take it. It's a quirky pop hit. It's catchy, it's funny, it's kitschy, it's got it all it's got it all, do you hate the?

Speaker 4:

Monster Mash.

Speaker 1:

No. There's a lot of those songs that I just you got to take. You know what it is. It's like going to see a fucking Batman movie. It's like going to see a fucking batman movie. These motherfuckers come out and they, they crit, they criticize it like it's a fucking batman movie. Like what are you expecting the godfather right? Like, go to enjoy it.

Speaker 4:

Just listen to the song and enjoy it when people start taking an intellectual approach to rock and roll. Yeah, like all those prog bands that mark likes. Yeah, yeah, don't pick on my prog band.

Speaker 2:

I'm kidding, you know. Leave it alone, lou don't go there, I'm gonna massacre you on sunday.

Speaker 4:

I'm not afraid of you. I'm not afraid of you, pal yeah, uh, let's see.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they, they still. One of them is a um, he's a presenter like uh, he's a presenter at gay Time TV in the UK. He's kind of a big deal in the LGBTQ community. So the other one, it's just like Hall Oates. Although no one cares about Oates, I guess no one cares about the other bald guy in Right Side, fred. All right, what do you got? Mark, give me one more.

Speaker 2:

I mean Scott, do you?

Speaker 4:

remember it was his name, fred.

Speaker 2:

No, do you remember? In Boston when. Brett Hull and what's his name? Oates. And they put them together and they made him Colin Oates.

Speaker 1:

No, they were on the St Louis Blues. Oh I thought they were both. Yeah, they were on the St Louis Blues. We ended up getting Adam Oates from the Blues to the Bruins, but when they played in St Louis, it was major hockey mistake.

Speaker 2:

Holland oats, I'm gonna get crucified for that one. Yeah, well, never played. Damn, yeah, brett hull, let me get that jersey back out. Um, I got two lane. I got two, but I wanted to give one to you because I feel bad. I thought you would have researched her and, yeah, do you know what she's done, right?

Speaker 1:

and you're from uh, yeah, uh, I don't I don't.

Speaker 2:

She basically lives in a castle in dublin and she has nobody's with her. She has tons of cats, wow, wow for her. She her recording styles doesn't blend well with record labels. And take her. You know, it could take her months to do one verse of a song. Yeah, uh, but right, that's what she's doing now. She just, uh, she can sing in 11 languages. That surprised me, yeah, that auric or arcano flow.

Speaker 1:

That was a. That was a pretty big hit. Yeah, yeah, sail away, sail away, sail away or commercials, use that.

Speaker 4:

she's Remember the sounds that are almost like those orchestra hits. It's like massively plucked strings. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's where her family did it. It's very ethereal.

Speaker 4:

That castle must smell terrible, oh shit.

Speaker 2:

Did castles ever smell?

Speaker 4:

good, they smell like all those litter boxes herself.

Speaker 1:

Do you ever smell bad rice? Do you ever smell white rice that went bad? No, it smells like cat piss.

Speaker 2:

It smells exactly like cat piss. In my household we eat rice faster than we can get in.

Speaker 1:

I had the rice bowl out one day to cook it. I just put the bowl up on the counter, had the rice in it and I fucking went in the other room and I came back and the cat was in the rice bowl.

Speaker 4:

We were just scratching it, eating it. He was burying something.

Speaker 2:

Smells like piss.

Speaker 1:

Thought it was a fucking thought, it was a kitty litter.

Speaker 4:

Brie cheese. When brie cheese goes bad, same thing.

Speaker 1:

Smells like fucking. Oh man, what else you got.

Speaker 2:

Mark, you may or may not know this guy. I know Lou knows him. You remember Wings Over America, that movie, the tour movie.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I saw it. I actually saw it, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Remember the drummer. He was kind of stocky, he had the black curly hair?

Speaker 2:

I don't remember it that well, joe English, joe English, he basically lucked out. He got a gig with Paul McCartney. He thought he would have stayed in the business, but when he quit the band he became a born-again Christian. He did form the Joe English Band, but then in 1990, he joined the Word of Faith Fellowship. It's a very controversial, insular evangelical Christian community known for the practice of blasting. I don't know what that is Christian community known for the practice of blasting. I don't know what that is. But when one member asked if he could reduce his contributions to church because he was affected by the recession, the church told him to commit fraud so he could keep donating, donating. No celebration, no celebrating birthdays or holidays. No Christmas, no Easter. No watching TV or movies. No reading newspapers. No eating at restaurants to play music. Men are allowed not allowed to go outside topless, can't go to university and independently study. And he's still with this group. Yeah, he's still with him.

Speaker 1:

And it's kind of basically fucking. What is that? That's latter-day saints, the. Are they the ones that are like the very?

Speaker 4:

No, no, no it's the seven?

Speaker 1:

Who are the ones that don't celebrate Christmas, don't celebrate any holidays?

Speaker 2:

The Seventh-day events is celebrated. They celebrate. No, there's another one.

Speaker 4:

Jehovah's.

Speaker 1:

Witnesses.

Speaker 4:

These people are different, Mark. I went down a wormhole with Joe Ingers. I remember that that place is not too far from here, really.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's in North Carolina, Look him up. Hey Joe, you want to jam? Yeah, you beast, hey Joe.

Speaker 4:

Go scream in some kids' faces. That's what they do. They scream at you. That's what blasting is, I think so yeah, abusive and uh wow, great. He's a really good drummer, though that fucking builds character that's right when you're in the generation's too soft.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you need some screaming in your crib as a man who has three older sisters, I can say yes, screaming in my face does build character yeah not allison she never screamed at me.

Speaker 4:

You know, mark, I think they've been investigated, but they've not been able to get too far into the nobody talks. Yeah, nobody talks, that's right, that's right he's, he's saying a lead on on the um that wings album.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's right.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah, yeah uh must do something about it yep, and he in the movie he sings. They let him sing the song does he really he's saying in the studio?

Speaker 2:

because, um, no, because in the, in the studio, no, because in the concert Paul wanted everybody to, because he didn't want to be known as Paul McCartney's wing. That's when he let everybody do something. Danny Lane did a song. I remember Joe singing it in the movie.

Speaker 1:

I get a message for this generation.

Speaker 2:

Oh, he's on his soapbox. Here we go, stop it, stop my.

Speaker 3:

God, oh he's on his soapbox here we go. Sounds like hot lips.

Speaker 1:

That's right. Grow a pair. Time to grow a pair. Man, the fuck up, I don't know how to do that.

Speaker 2:

Anyway, I would never do that to my son, though. What blast him? Nah, never. You know why. You know why He'd beat the crap out of me.

Speaker 1:

He'd beat you up. He'd beat you up, all right. Well, you know what? Let's move on to singles. Let's move on to singles. Let's see what the single shots I picked, 1978.

Speaker 3:

Look.

Speaker 1:

It's my ringtone.

Speaker 2:

I got to take a bathroom break. I'll be right back.

Speaker 4:

It's my ringtone. Who is that? By the way, that's my buddy calling me.

Speaker 1:

That's my ringtone. That's from Squid Game. That's the best ringtone ever. Oh, okay, I haven't seen it. I have some pretty good ringtones. I have some pretty good. This is music. Let me see what I have. Let me see Sounds, ringtones. These are some of my ringtones.

Speaker 4:

Let's see, uh, uh, what do we got?

Speaker 1:

here, oh yeah, this is a good one, that's a good one, right yeah, let's see, I got a lot of them.

Speaker 4:

Let's see, there you go. Yeah, the night timer in turn.

Speaker 3:

Let's see what movie.

Speaker 4:

Probably didn't say it.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what movie is that from.

Speaker 4:

You don't know.

Speaker 1:

From Dust Till Dawn. Saw it once. That was the band in the bar. Okay, quentin Tarantino, right, let me see. Oh, this is a good one, this is a good mashup. Relax and take notes while I take totes of the marijuana smoke, throw you in a choke gun. Smoke, gun smoke, biggie smokes for mayor, the rat slayer, the hooker layer. Motherfuckers, say your prayers. Hail Mary full of grace.

Speaker 3:

Smack the bitch in the face, take her Gucci bag and a new face off her back Japper if she act funny with the money.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you got me mistaken. Best Led Zeppelin remix ever, best, best.

Speaker 4:

Zeppelin remix ever right. There have they been. They've been sampled a lot or no?

Speaker 1:

oh, they haven't, yeah, yeah, they have. I think so, yeah, good one. I think so, yeah, good one.

Speaker 4:

Let's see what else we got.

Speaker 1:

I got good ringtones. I went on this tear for a while where I had the ability to chop songs and then make them ringtones and then download them into Apple and then upload them into my phone. You can't really do that anymore. They get you on every angle. Okay.

Speaker 4:

I went down my GPS.

Speaker 1:

It's a pickle. This motherfucker eating a pickle. Are you eating a pickle?

Speaker 2:

It's a gherkin. Pickles are good with wine.

Speaker 1:

It's a pickle. Is that a garlic pickle, a gherkin pickle?

Speaker 2:

I drank the pickle. I drank the pickle juice too.

Speaker 1:

Oh, Mark Shannon gave me the fucking the sleepy guy. You know what? I was waiting for the co-host to come back. Mark Shannon, Don't come on here, have something positive to say for once.

Speaker 2:

Mark Shannon is the most negative person.

Speaker 4:

This guy like it could be a sunny day and it's fucking cloudy over him. He's like. You know, he looks like Joe Gittspo. Remember the comic strip? No, not even better. He was raining on the guy.

Speaker 1:

He walks around like fucking bad luck, schlep rock. Remember the fucking Flintstones? The guy with the fucking cloud over his head, yeah, yeah yeah. Wherever he goes. Mark Shannon, I love Mark Shannon. That's my buddy. Let's get into the singles charts Top 10 this week. In 1978, mark Shannon was like 20 then Disco time. In 1978, he was like 20, 21.

Speaker 1:

I was nine younger than me he's yeah, he's like 74 now or something, I think he's. He looks like he's 80. See, I could do this. He has no response to this. This is live. So that's the advantage you don't ever come on a live stream through messaging and try to get into it with the host, because you're going to get crushed.

Speaker 2:

I learned that lesson.

Speaker 1:

You're going to get crushed, all right. Number 10 this week in 1978, jack and Jill by Radio yeah Right, I don't know, that you don't know that one, that was a one-hit wonder.

Speaker 4:

No, they hit. You can't change that.

Speaker 1:

That's right. That's right Radio. You can't change that With Ray Parker.

Speaker 4:

Jr.

Speaker 1:

Ah, that's right, Good, good, got some of the Ghostbusters Number nine this week in 1978, down on Thunder Island.

Speaker 4:

Jay Ferguson. Yep 1978, down on Thunder Island, jay Ferguson. Yep, what band was Jay Ferguson in before his solo career? One of my favorite bands, I don't know who Spirit.

Speaker 2:

Ah, spirit, I was just playing that album, like last weekend.

Speaker 1:

Joe Walsh was on it Number eight this week in 1978, when Mark Shannon was like 24. Love is thicker than water, andy Gibb. See, didn't I just have an?

Speaker 4:

Andy Gibb 45?. I should win because of that. I thought it was a debut single you had I did, I think I did. I still lost this one, number seven this week, scott, is that the first time Mark's won? No, it's the second time.

Speaker 1:

Second time. Yeah, he's a perennial loser, he's eating his pickle Don. Williams. Okay, number seven this week in 1978. Maybe the greatest violin solo in music history. Any guesses Don't hang on 1978. Maybe the greatest violin solo in music history.

Speaker 2:

Any guesses Don't hang on 1978.

Speaker 1:

1978.

Speaker 2:

Dust in the wind, a lot of love.

Speaker 4:

Dust in the wind Dust in the wind.

Speaker 1:

That was 78. Yeah, that dude died a couple years ago, I think. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he did his solo album and he finished it like I.

Speaker 1:

you know what the guy fucking he, he. He became a violin legend in music, in rock, yeah, with, just with that song also that I was in on.

Speaker 4:

What was that in old school?

Speaker 1:

no, yeah I wonder how. I wonder what credits he got for that. I wonder if he even got a credit for that.

Speaker 2:

He got enough credits. He also sang more songs than you realize. Oh okay, he had the unassuming kind of mid-range voice, but he sang a lot of their big songs.

Speaker 4:

All right, did that one guy really have one eyeball? The eye patch guy? It was a childhood accident.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I like how Lou specifies eyeball. You know, you could just say eye. Yeah, I know that guy got one eyeball, one eyeball, what does he have? Two eyeballs and he's wearing the patch because he wants to look cool. Hey Lou, did he lose an eyeball?

Speaker 2:

Did he?

Speaker 1:

lose the eyeball.

Speaker 2:

Lou, you want some soda pop? Don't put the soda pop too close I might lose my eyeball.

Speaker 1:

Lou, you want some soda pop, I want some soda pop. Don't put the soda pop too close, I might lose my eyeball.

Speaker 4:

I had a hair growing behind my eyeball a couple years ago. Did it come from? Venus underarms it would have been worth it. I was working a whole. I had something in my eye for three days.

Speaker 1:

You had hair growing on your eye.

Speaker 4:

It was this rare thing where the doctor goes. You've got a hair growing out of a gland behind your eye. It was driving me fucking nuts. He just pulled the thing out. It was behind my eyeball though. Now, Lou, I gotta ask you, I would have done that for free.

Speaker 2:

With a pair of tweezers. I want to ask you remember that episode of curb your enthusiasm with that. Yeah, I did. You sure it didn't come from that.

Speaker 1:

You know, like you just had to get my eye you know, I always dive head first of whatever I do, it would have been hilarious if it was a pubic hair.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, really, that's what I was getting.

Speaker 1:

The doctor said you got a pubic hair in your eye. You got some skin. How did it get behind you? How did the pubic hair get behind your eyeball? How the fuck did that happen? You're a talented guy, too sexy for my shirt all right number six this week in 1970, this week in 1978, emotion by samantha sang. Number five this week on the top ten of this week in 1978. If I Can't have you, yvonne Elliman.

Speaker 4:

That's a good song. She's pretty hot too. She was. She's like Hawaiian or something, wasn't she?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she spent a lot of time with Eric. Now she looks like a fucking old leather bag.

Speaker 2:

She looks like David Coverdale.

Speaker 1:

Her skin looks like a looks like it came out of an old toad. She's been sitting in the outback.

Speaker 2:

The leather bag that sat in the outback for about a month.

Speaker 4:

In the sun, written hard and put away wet. That's terrible.

Speaker 1:

Number three this week. I'm not a big Eric Clapton fan. Okay, let me stop right here. Let me stop right here, let me ask you guys a serious question why? Why and I've listened, I've listened and I've listened pretty much my whole childhood, into my adult life why is Eric Clapton considered one of the greatest guitar players ever?

Speaker 4:

He's a fucking picker.

Speaker 1:

He's a picker and he's a strummer, but why is he considered one of the greatest guitar players?

Speaker 2:

First, of all, you got the Father, son and Holy Ghost. You got Jimmy Page, eric Clapton and Jeff Beck. That's always been considered the three biggest guys from England. They took our American blues and they gave it back to us. Eric Clapton peaked, I think, with Cream.

Speaker 4:

He was massive.

Speaker 2:

And then in the 70s he just settled into, he was comfortable and he never, ever got that height back Out of those three Jeff Beck blows. I mean I'd that height back, um, out of those three jeff beck blows. I mean I'd say jeff beck just never stopped searching. He always had a new sound. Jimmy page is jimmy page. I love jimmy page. But yeah, you're right, uh, I loved eric clapton 70s work to a point and then I realized a lot of it's really boring slow hand.

Speaker 1:

It's a great album, but there's nothing spectacular on that album it's like a Steve. Miller album.

Speaker 4:

If it wasn't ever Clapton, would it be, you know?

Speaker 1:

So somebody fucking spray paints on a wall Clapton is God. A photographer gets a picture of it, puts it in a magazine and it becomes word, it becomes gospel.

Speaker 2:

Well, he backed it up when he was in Cream. He was incredible.

Speaker 4:

It's amazing how the word of mouth legend starts, you know, like a ball. You know that ball rolled down the hill and just gathered a lot of snow, like a cult following, turns into a full-fledged following but I I did a whole cream bonanza a couple months, about a month or so, and I mark, I agree his playing was amazing. I mean that's an amazing guitar playing. I mean the whole band was amazing. I jack bruce said the same thing. He goes.

Speaker 4:

I think that was eric at his best, really yeah um, but then you know, derrick and the dominoes that had, that was just. Oh yeah, that was great stuff there's other songs that are better than that guitar solo in leila, yeah, I think I think that composition alone and just the timing of it I mean yeah, you know, the scene in goodfellas kind of makes it makes sense for that song, because that's a composition, it's not just a song, it's a composition.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but in the 70s that's a good album.

Speaker 1:

That's a good producer also Tom Dowd, one of the best. So doesn't the producer put all that together? No, he's probably in the studio with them, right, but it's the guitar playing. He's the greatest, oh clap your hands.

Speaker 2:

I'm like, ah, so in the 70s he put out a live album called Back. Ec was here, the one with the naked back of the woman, and I'm listening to it as a kid and I'm hearing his ripping guitar solo on have you Ever Loved a Woman Just ripping, and I thought it was Eric Clapton and I found out that no, he had this guy, george Terry, doing all the leads and he was just strumming his track because he was drunk off his ass. So the 70s to me turned into like Perry and I used to talk about. I'm like you know it's kind of like the equivalent of some of the Steve Miller songs, just very too laid back.

Speaker 1:

I just think he got his reputation and then lived off of it. He was a great guitar player, but one of the greatest. He did what he wanted to do?

Speaker 2:

He chose to get laid back.

Speaker 1:

He lived off of being Eric.

Speaker 4:

Clapton, that's my opinion. I don't think he never bought into the myth.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

You know, when someone asked me what's it like being the world's greatest guitar player and he said ask Prince, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And also.

Speaker 4:

If he hadn't gotten pop in the 80s, though, and if he tried to be a blues purist in the 80s, it would have not been because he had some big pop albums in the 80s. Of all those guitar players, he's the most chameleon-like one. Page is Page. He can't be anything. There couldn't be anything else but the singular. I'll give you that but there's a lot of guitarists that are like that.

Speaker 1:

Stevie Ray Vaughan was a better guitar player.

Speaker 4:

Absolutely yes, he was, but also Clapton's also a very good singer. True, yeah, but that's another category. Yeah, but as a guitar player I know a lot of guitar players. Some people swear by him, but to me I see a 50-50 split almost. But Gus is saying, not saying he's not a great guitar player, but the whole you know this.

Speaker 2:

He's written great compositions that people remember.

Speaker 2:

Lay down sally cocaine well, he didn't write cocaine, but um, and then he made the one, the just one night album kind of got him back as a guitar player. What I do like about him, though, is is anytime he read an interview like you're playing on, that song was great. He would always make a point to say if you like that, go listen to, and you'd point out the blues player that he took the style from, so I give him that he was selfless. Jimmy Page, on the other hand, took a lot of credit for stuff that he shouldn't have taken credit for that wasn't him, that was his manager, peter Grant.

Speaker 1:

Number three this week in 1978 in the top ten and I do like the song and it is a great picking song. This is a great picking song. This is a great picking song. Lay Down Sally Eric Clapton. Yeah, I love that little rhythm that he does. That's good stuff. It doesn't make him the greatest or one of the greatest, but it's good. I like it. You know what he?

Speaker 2:

modeled that off of. He modeled that off of the sound of Don Williams.

Speaker 4:

He's really into Don Williams. Oh yeah, Some of that modeled that off of the sound of Don Williams. He's really into Don Williams, yeah, and it sounds like the guitar solo is really quiet.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, number two this week in 1978, stayin' Alive by the Bee.

Speaker 2:

Gees, the first drum loop ever done in the studio.

Speaker 1:

All right and number one this week on the top 10, in the top 10, on the top 40. Number one this week in 1978, back-to-back one and two Night Fever by the Bee Gees, good song. Yeah, I do like those songs. Yeah, two of the five good songs off a two-record set. It's overrated All right, let's do the top 10 this week, the album charts. Album charts. Number 10 this week on the album charts in 1978, the Grand Illusion, styx. Ah, great song, welcome to the Grand Illusion.

Speaker 1:

Great lyrics Number 9 this week the top 10 album charts earth by jefferson starship. Hmm, what's the hits off those songs you know, off that album?

Speaker 4:

uh, that one. Oh, count on me, I think it's on that record. Count on me, I think there's miracles on that no, that was red dragon that was red dragon.

Speaker 1:

That that was Red Dragon, that's right, red Octopus.

Speaker 2:

That's the movie Red Dragon.

Speaker 1:

Red Octopus yeah, red something. Number eight this week in the album charts of 1978, running on Empty. Jackson Brown Great slide plan. Number seven this week on the album charts in 1978, point of no Return. How long no? Being K-N-O-W A little play on words, let's fuck with the wording they're prog.

Speaker 2:

They can do that.

Speaker 1:

There's some rock albums on this list. Yeah, Number six this week on the album charts. Top ten album charts of 1978, Weekend in LA by George Benson. Oh, that's a good album. There are some good songs, good albums here. Number five this week on the top ten album charts of 1978. Asia by Steely Dan. Down, down, down, down, down. Amazing. Down down, down, down, down, down, down down.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my God.

Speaker 4:

That was close, that was good, that's a little riff.

Speaker 1:

I can riff a little bit. If I did that, the hanging lamp downstairs in the living room would start bit.

Speaker 2:

If I did that, the hanging lamp downstairs in the living room would start shaking and Anthony would be like stop it.

Speaker 4:

That is a legendary Steve Gannon drum.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, number four this week on the album Chats in 1978, the Stranger Billy Joel. A number three this week on the album Chats of 1978, even Now by Barry Manilow, a number two this week on the album Shots of 1978. Even Now by Barry Manilow, number two this week on the album Shots of 1978 Slow Hand, eric Clapton. Bum, bum, bum bum.

Speaker 2:

That's weird by the way, you know who sang backup on that album Yvonne.

Speaker 4:

Ellen.

Speaker 2:

Part of his band.

Speaker 4:

Yvonne Ellen, yeah, if I can't have, you Were there. Were there any disco records on that list?

Speaker 1:

Well, let's see Number one this week on the album charts in 1978, Saturday Night Fever.

Speaker 2:

All filler, no killer.

Speaker 1:

No, we had. Top 10 was Jefferson Starship, jackson Brown, kansas, george Benson, billy Joel, barry Mantle, eric Clapton, and then Saturday Night Fever dominates If you go down to 15, you had Rufus and Chaka Khan Street. Player 14 was Ted Nugent, double Live, gonzo. 13 was Footloose and Fancy Free, rod Stewart. Number 12 was News of the World from Queen. Number 11 was Blue Lights in the Basement, roberta Flack. Yeah, so there was some good albums out there. Rumors was 21,. Number 21 this week, bob Welch, French Kiss was 22. Oh good album. Warren Zevon, excitable Boy was number 25.

Speaker 2:

The new kid in town is excitable.

Speaker 1:

Let's see Art Garfunkel, watermark 31. That was way too high.

Speaker 2:

Who cares? Way too high.

Speaker 4:

He won the Eurovision title what lame cover did he do on that one? It's his face. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Looking right in the camera. Sheik's debut album was number 39. Elo out of the blue was number 40. I love that album. Yeah, the outlaws bring it back alive. Uh, van halen. Van halen was number 44 this week in 1970. Bad for a little old band from la. Yeah, eddie money's debut album came out. It was number 47. This week in 1978. That climbed up and gordon lightfoot finishing out the top 50. Uh, endless wire interesting.

Speaker 1:

I'm casey case in time, moving right along here all right, this day of music, uh, on this day in uh, the Swedish entertainment company founded by Abbas Bjorn Ludvigs announced they had acquired the music catalog, including master recordings and publishing rights, and the name and likeness of KISS for $300 million. Just read about that, $300 million.

Speaker 2:

They got the publishing.

Speaker 1:

They sold everything. They got the likeness. They sold everything, they got the publishing. How many of your soul are here? I think they're in their 70s now.

Speaker 4:

They've done it all They've had more money than that in the bank, and they don't want to go away at all.

Speaker 1:

No, they really are egomaniacs. Pop House said they plan to use the deal to create a live music show featuring avatars of the members of kiss.

Speaker 2:

Similar to abba, I would never go to anything like that, never.

Speaker 1:

People will, though, listen this motherfuckers that go to them creepy ass fucking. Uh, uh, uh. What are they called? Uh, tribute bands? Oh, fuckers, creep, meep me out, man, yeah, yeah. These motherfuckers I've seen like tribute bands on YouTube, like the Smiths, and the guy acts like Morris.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And runs on stage.

Speaker 4:

And.

Speaker 1:

I'm like this is fucking creepy. I saw a tribute band on a cruise ship on the Allure and it was Journey, and the guy came out. He had the fucking tux jacket on, with the fucking zebra shirt underneath and the tight jeans and the Nike sneakers and the wig, like Steve Perry. I was like this is fucking creepy, man. I don't know how they do it, I don't know. But people who go to that, they'll go to see these. You know what? I would probably go see that before I go to a tribute band, because you're going to have a great sound system right it's going to be a great sound system.

Speaker 1:

It's going to be the real music and if it's an interesting, you know whatever they call it hologram.

Speaker 4:

Right, you can throw shit and nothing's going to happen.

Speaker 1:

But I don't want to see a bunch of guys that tour around wearing fucking Beatles wigs every night Big fucking sideburns.

Speaker 4:

I saw a Beatles tribute band and they were good.

Speaker 1:

They're good, but it's fucking weird.

Speaker 4:

Until you got close.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I saw another cruise ship fucking thing and the guy Paul always makes the Paul face Punch him right Like he's surprised. I'm cute, where's the room?

Speaker 1:

On this day in 2019, liam Gallagher's pretty green fashion brand was rescued from administration, which I guess is bankruptcy. It was reported they would keep the flagship store in Manchester open, but 11 stores would close. On this day in 2016, it was reported that David Bowie had dominated the UK album charts for the first quarter of 2016. Bowie had the most entries to the chart, with six albums in the top 40, after fans sought out his music in the wake of his death in January.

Speaker 1:

On this day in 2013, former Rolling Stones bassist weirdo, bill Wyman weirdo, didn't he marry like a 17-year-old girl or something. Well, good for him, I should say Turned himself in to British police after reports emerged suggesting he began a sexual relationship with his second wife, mandy Smith, when she was 14. There you go After a brief meeting and a big fat fucking check was cut, I'm sure the authorities decided not to pursue charges, because when you have Rolling Stones money, good. Authorities decided not to pursue charges Because when you have Rolling Stones money, good luck, yeah, good luck. He'll sue them all. On this day in 2008, procol Harum singer Gary Brooker won full back, one back, full, one back, full royalty rights to the band's worldwide hit A White, a Shade of Pale at london's court of appeal. The decision overturned a 2006 ruling that organist matthew fisher was entitled to a 40 portion of the royalties of the 1967 hit after he argued he had written the song's organ melody. The court ruled there was an excessive delay in the claim being made nearly 40 years after the song was recorded.

Speaker 2:

It's a classical piece.

Speaker 1:

It's based on a classical song well, that's like born to be wild. You know who got john kate does not have the writing. You know who has it? The fucking keyboard player, real, because when they wrote the song born to be wild, nobody fucking wrote down. Who wrote it, like they never. So the manager was friends, like best friends, with the keyboardist and he said let's put you on. Ah yeah, and fucking john kade lost millions. Wow millions.

Speaker 4:

Remember the song um rosie and originals angel baby, my angel baby, not really, you've. You've heard it. You've heard it's an old, is this she? She was underage when she wrote it and they let the guitar player get the royalties. She got it back but, like I said, it took 40 years. You you've heard this song john lennon covered on the rock is rock and roll album. So they get to keep all that money that they made on it. Right, right, yeah, yeah, I guess you know they have to give it all back.

Speaker 1:

Because they were legally at that time, it was theirs. Right On this day in 2007, a Swedish couple ran into trouble with authorities after trying to name their baby Metallica. Michael and Carolina tomorrow went to court with the country's national tax authority about naming the daughter after the rock band. The six-month-old had been baptized Metallica, but tax officials said the name was inappropriate. Under Swedish law, both first names and surnames need to win the approval of authorities. Wow, Before they can, whoa what the fuck.

Speaker 2:

I'm surprised Lars Ulrich didn't sue her. I know right, you can't name your baby Metallica. That's our name in this day.

Speaker 1:

On this day in 2003, 50 cent became the best-selling artist in the us so far this year, when his latest album get rich or die try and sold more than 40 million copies in two months.

Speaker 1:

He was, he was on fire, then, and let's say it like brian gumbel 50 cent yeah yeah, um, on this day in 1999, the cores album talk on corners went to number one in the uk album chart with the 10th. For the 10th time they also had the number two position with forgiven. Um, with Forgiven. When I saw U2 do their Elevation Tour, pj Harvey was supposed to back them up and she couldn't make it. I get the fucking cores.

Speaker 2:

They were like the Partridge family of Irish music.

Speaker 1:

They were just total glass pop On this day in 1987, Starship started the two-week run at number one in the US single charts with Nothing's Gonna Stop Us. What movie was it in Mannequin? Mannequin, very good. On this day in 1987, U2 entered the US album charts at number seven with their fifth solo studio album, the Joshua Tree, making it the highest chart new entry in America for seven years and many of us are sick to death of it three weeks later it reached number one, becoming the group's first album to top the charts in the us.

Speaker 1:

The joshua tree is now one of the world's best-selling albums over 25 million copies, cold, deservedly. With or without you, if that song wasn't on that album, it wouldn't have made it to where it made it to. That was, that was the launch that song was their launching pad.

Speaker 2:

I still say, when MTV premiered that video and I saw the opens up, ec Bono with the guitar in his hand, like his arm out, he was channeling Bruce. I still say it he was trying to be Bruce Springsteen.

Speaker 1:

With the leather vest on. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I was very disappointed when I first saw that.

Speaker 1:

On this day in 1982, layla was on the UK singles shot, the re-released track originally featured on derrick and the dominoes album layla and other assorted love songs from 1970, inspired by clapton's then unrequited, unrequited love for patty boyd, blah, blah, blah, I love you, patty. Layla is considered one of rock music's definitive love songs. On this day in 1976, sex Pistols played the first night of a residency at the El Paradiso Club in Soho, london. On this day in 1970, brinsey Schwartz Promotion Company sent 133 UK journalists by plane to New York to see the band supporting Van Morrison at the Fillmore East at the cost of $120,000 to $204,000. The event turned into a disaster. The group planned to leave a few days before the show to rehearse but were denied visas on a tech net and technicality. They were finally given visas on the morning of the show and arrived hours before the concert. The plane carrying the journalist developed a mechanical fault, delaying the flight, and when the journalist arrived in New York 18 hours later, they were all hungover.

Speaker 2:

Wait, the Sex Pistols supported.

Speaker 1:

Brinsley Schwartz's promotion company sent the plane to New York to see a band, the band. Oh See the band supporting Van Morrison at the Fillmore East.

Speaker 2:

Supported Van Morrison.

Speaker 1:

It doesn't say the band like capital T, capital B.

Speaker 2:

No, I mean.

Speaker 4:

No, no, the band Brindley Schwartz. Oh, they're an English pub band, brindley Schwartz.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that was a little confusing. I don't write the shit, I just read it.

Speaker 4:

That guitar player is a guitar player on Pretenders Middle of the Road, I think.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, On the stay in 1970, Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young went to number one in the US album charts with Deja Vu, the first album, which saw Neil Young joining Crosby, stills and Nash, featured three US Top 40 singles Teacher Children, our House and Woodstock.

Speaker 1:

On this day in 1967, the Jimi Hendrix Experience, the Walker Brothers, inglebert Humpending and Cat Stevens played two shows at the Bournemouth Winter Gardens in England. The Jimi Hendrix Experience were also the special guests on the first edition of UK BBC TV D-Time, along with Kiki D and Cat Stevens. Dick time, don't break my heart.

Speaker 4:

Kiki D.

Speaker 1:

On this day in 1964, the Beatles held the top five places on the US singles charts With Please, please Me at number five. Number four was Wanna Hold your Hand, number three Roll Over Beethoven, number two, love Me Do. And number one Can't Buy Me Love. They also had another nine singles on the charts, bringing the total of 14 singles in the top 100.

Speaker 4:

Let me see, I need a Roll Over Beethoven chart of that high.

Speaker 1:

On this day in 1960, RCA Victor Records, announced that it would release all pop singles in mono and stereo simultaneously the first record company to do so. Elvis Presley's single Stuck on you was RCA's first mono-stereo release, and that's it. Let's see who was born. Who was born on this day? Who won the Eurovision Song Award? No, that was when we do years. We might do a year next year. Let me see, I'm not seeing anybody of any significance. Craig Adams, bassist English, got the rock. The Mission or the Mission UK. Really, Gary Moore, Gary Moore, he was born on this day in 1952.

Speaker 2:

When he played he looked like he hadn't taken a shit in a month.

Speaker 1:

Barry Oakley. Barry Oakley, oh, bassist with the Allman Brothers Band. Right, let me see. Dave Hill, major Lance, sharon Sheely, hugh messer, danny thompson and, finally, born on this day in 1913, muddy waters. Hey, hey, what's his real name? Muddy waters. Uh, let me see. And his band band recorded the Hooch Cooch man. I'm ready.

Speaker 2:

I just want to bring it up to you. There it is. There you go. I think it's Morgan McKinleyfield, or his real name, by the way, the Rolling Stones named themselves after his 1950 song Rolling Stone.

Speaker 1:

His music influenced Eric Clapton's career. Led Zeppelin's Whole Lotta Love is lyrically based on the Muddy Waters hit you Need Love. Waters died in his sleep from heart failure on April 30th 1983 at age 70. Wow, I thought he was older than that.

Speaker 4:

I know he looked old in the Last Waltz. It was rumored that he was going to get bumped from the Last Waltz, really, and Levine said I walk how dare you, you, neil diamond on and not muddy waters on that's here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, how dare you? Yeah, I want to take neil diamond to have two songs, so yeah, well, gentlemen, that's the show.

Speaker 1:

Look at that two hours and 16 minutes yeah, it was too quick that was a good one. All right, we got it, we'll. We'll pick up maybe on another year next year. Let's look at a year, lou, you pick a year this week.

Speaker 2:

Have we done 75? Let's go through a quick rundown. Something about that year. What do you think, lou? I mean we can.

Speaker 1:

It's a different year.

Speaker 4:

Let's see, I'll pick a year, I'm going to pick a year.

Speaker 1:

Well, let me tell you what we have so far. Let me see, here we go. We have 67, 68, 69, 70, 72, 75, 76, 77, 79, 84, 85, 86, 87, 90, 91, 94, 2002. So we don't have 66, 79, 70. We don't have 71, we don't have 73, 74, uh 78, we didn't do 74, 74 it's huge, I thought we yeah, I don't think we did 74, so I guess we're gonna do 1974 274, unless I missed it.

Speaker 1:

I missed it, I'll review it and if it looks familiar I'll let you. I'll look back on my notes music I got the I got them all, my notes, my fucking, oh who's not the only one?

Speaker 2:

who's?

Speaker 1:

that right taco yeah, well, gentlemen, as I always say, and I always mean it, thank you for your time, thank you for your knowledge and, most of all, I really, really thank you for your friendship, great contribution to the show, great contribution to my life, and we will get together one of these days.

Speaker 2:

I'm already telling my daughter. I'm telling my daughter we're going to have a meeting in Asheville and I'm going to come down and see you, romina.

Speaker 1:

There you go Beautiful, it's going to happen. It's got to happen this year.

Speaker 4:

We got to make it happen this year there's a lot of chicken palms to be found in this town.

Speaker 1:

And if you're watching or listening, thank you for watching. Thank you for listening. If you like it, share it. If you didn't like it, well, thanks for watching for 200, and I mean 200. What the fuck? Two hours and 18 minutes.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to try to do what Patty sent to us the heart thing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Thanks, guys. Patty says I'll do what Patty sent to us the heart thing. Yeah, Thanks, guys. Patty says great show. Have a great rest of the week, you too, Patty. Todd Sockman, thanks for keeping me company on my long drive. Good night, gentlemen. You too, my friend.

Speaker 4:

Sorry about that. He's got a two-hour commute.

Speaker 2:

No, he's got five hours to go.

Speaker 1:

Four hours and 15 minutes or 45 minutes to go, todd yeah.

Speaker 2:

Driving from LA to Sacramento.

Speaker 1:

Driving from Sacramento to LA. Oh, okay, yeah, be safe. Northern California to Southern California. He's going to get down that grapevine. Get down the grapevine Dapper, yeah, sideways. I drove that many times.

Speaker 2:

No more law.

Speaker 4:

That's a straight line no more law.

Speaker 1:

That is a straight line. You go through a lot of fucking cow country too. Anyway, thanks for watching. Thank you for listening. If you like it, share it. If you didn't like it, thanks for listening. Anyways, thanks for watching. We'll be back next Thursday night 7 o'clock and doing the show for you, to quote my favorite artist, morrissey the pleasure, the privilege is mine and we will see you next Thursday, 7 o'clock.

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