Milk Crates and Turntables. A Music Discussion Podcast
Ep. 146 - Rewind to '81: A Dive into the Year's Defining Music and Movies with Mark Smith
Strap on your nostalgia goggles and get ready for an electrifying blast from 1981, as I, your ever-enthusiastic host, am joined by the legendary Mark Smith from Music Relish. Together, we're set to serenade you with a symphony of memories, exploring the year's top albums—from Styx's 'Paradise Theater' to Stevie Nicks' 'Belladonna'—and delving into trends that shaped our musical tastes. Imagine headbands, leg warmers, and the raw, unedited banter of live podcasting, complete with personal rants and laughter-inducing misspellings by our new friend, Bob Kirkman.
Turn the volume up as we hit play on the most iconic tracks and artists, reminiscing about the good old days when music was on vinyl and movies were without CGI. There's a treasure trove of nostalgia as we chat about the horror flicks that had us peeking through our fingers, the emergence of Rob Zombie's divisive artistry, and the quirky films that became cult classics. It's a candid and humorous stroll down memory lane with the ever-insightful Mark, connecting dots between past and present, and proving that the spirit of the '80s is alive and well within us.
We round off this time-traveling experience by shining the spotlight on the film side of things, discussing everything from the special effects wonders pre-CGI to the enduring charm of New York City as captured on the silver screen. We're breaking down what made movies like 'Wolfen' and 'Clash of the Titans' iconic and sharing our personal experiences of the Big Apple, then and now. So, whether you're a die-hard '80s aficionado or just in it for the laughs, this episode is your backstage pass to the sights, sounds, and stories of an unforgettable year in music and movies.
Strap on your nostalgia goggles and get ready for an electrifying blast from 1981, as I, your ever-enthusiastic host, am joined by the legendary Mark Smith from Music Relish. Together, we're set to serenade you with a symphony of memories, exploring the year's top albums—from Styx's 'Paradise Theater' to Stevie Nicks' 'Belladonna'—and delving into trends that shaped our musical tastes. Imagine headbands, leg warmers, and the raw, unedited banter of live podcasting, complete with personal rants and laughter-inducing misspellings by our new friend, Bob Kirkman.
Turn the volume up as we hit play on the most iconic tracks and artists, reminiscing about the good old days when music was on vinyl and movies were without CGI. There's a treasure trove of nostalgia as we chat about the horror flicks that had us peeking through our fingers, the emergence of Rob Zombie's divisive artistry, and the quirky films that became cult classics. It's a candid and humorous stroll down memory lane with the ever-insightful Mark, connecting dots between past and present, and proving that the spirit of the '80s is alive and well within us.
We round off this time-traveling experience by shining the spotlight on the film side of things, discussing everything from the special effects wonders pre-CGI to the enduring charm of New York City as captured on the silver screen. We're breaking down what made movies like 'Wolfen' and 'Clash of the Titans' iconic and sharing our personal experiences of the Big Apple, then and now. So, whether you're a die-hard '80s aficionado or just in it for the laughs, this episode is your backstage pass to the sights, sounds, and stories of an unforgettable year in music and movies.
Well, here we are, episode 147. And, unlike last week, I have an intro. This week, total disaster. And this week, well, there's only one part of the wrecking two. That would be Mark Smith from the Music Relish podcast. Well, it's not a podcast, it's a show. They like to call themselves a show Because that's how they roll over at Music Relish. It's a show. How they roll over a music relish. It's a show. And well, anyway, tonight Mark and I are going to be talking about the albums and the movies of 1981. So go get your headbands and leg warmers and Olivia Newton-John poster and enjoy the show.
Speaker 2:The KOFB Studio presents Milk Crates and Turntables. A music discussion podcast hosted by Scott McClain. Now let's talk music.
Speaker 1:Enjoy the show. What the fuck. Well, thank you, amanda, for that wonderful introduction. Welcome to the podcast. You know the name, I'm not going to say it. We're streaming live right now over Facebook, twitter, youtube, d live, yada, yada, yada. Fucking streaming live. Oh, I'm in a fucking mood tonight. Lou is lucky he's not here because I'm taking it out on somebody. Yeah, I'm taking this shit out on somebody. Welcome back, my friends, to the show that never ends. I'm so glad you could attend. Come inside. Come inside. You know what? My favorite Allman, one of my favorite Allman Brothers songs, is Whipping Post. Yeah, and tonight that'll be Mark Smith. Yeah, and tonight that'll be Max. I didn't Then, I just took him off the screen Starting already. This is so fucked.
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Speaker 1:Uh, robert kirkman, shut the fuck up, just shut the fuck up, robert kirkman, if you're, if you're gonna, hi patty. Patty always makes me feel happy.
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Speaker 1:And so does Allison, allison Lundy, yay, oh, I don't have, I'm not, I don't have fucking anything, it's just dude.
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Speaker 2:Not always.
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Speaker 2:oh, oh boy. Yeah, it's the contractor's fault.
Speaker 1:Dude, I did two interviews today within two hours of each other for my Vets Connect podcast interview, Wow, yeah. The second one was totally like last-minute thing and I just wanted to get in a great conversation, great conversation with a younger veteran, interesting takes on things, let's see, Okay. So yeah, then I was scrambling and had to get that and then I got it.
Speaker 2:Breathe with me.
Speaker 1:Relax.
Speaker 2:Breathe in, breathe out.
Speaker 1:Breathe, breathe in the air.
Speaker 2:Big boys don't cry, big boys don't cry.
Speaker 1:Excellent, that's the line of the night I'm fucking whining here. Lose Lucky's not here here, um, he'd love it. So yeah, that's my shit.
Speaker 2:I just got a lot of shit going on right now. You know what that's, what's great about this podcast? Let me tell you something. Life has been coming on hard at me in the couple of weeks.
Speaker 1:It's been a shitty couple of weeks.
Speaker 2:I'm lucky to have two podcasts that for me, are pure joy and the best people you Lou and Perry.
Speaker 1:No order intended, it's Perry, you Lou whatever, but I'm not a tyrannical podcast leader that applies pressure when things I just vent and then I'm done. And you guys, don't give two shits.
Speaker 2:I try not to laugh.
Speaker 1:Let's see Dave Phillips, king of the 45s. Good evening. Oh, I get to shuffle. I don't even have to shuffle them tonight, dude, I'll tell you what. This thing right here, this thing right here, the Zoom PodTrrak P4. Yeah, fucking game changer. Now, what does it do? It does everything. Okay, so I could run it through, like you could run it through your computer, through your XLR cable and your microphone, right, this thing has each channel. It's four channels. It has up to 70, the gain can go up to 70. Right, you can put a limiter on each channel so it doesn't clip. It's got low cut filter. It gets rid of all the background noise, right, yeah, uh, it's got four sound pads, like I got. You know these.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean uh nice dude and the sound that comes out of it. It's really this thing is. This is a good fucking piece of equipment man.
Speaker 2:It looks like a remote from the 1970s actually.
Speaker 1:I know right, a garage door opener. It's a garage door opener from the 70s, but yeah, yeah, watch a video on it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I will. They'll tell you everything. They're really good. By the way, Patty says she can't see the comments. Did you put them up?
Speaker 1:Oh, why not? See? This is what I mean. Oh, you know, chat overlay, here we go. Ah, there we go. See, I'm all jacked up. You need Jack. No, that would be the last person I would need tonight, because he would provoke for the rest of the night, or the next 50 minutes, because Jack could only do an hour when 50 minutes because Jack can only do an hour Well being on at 7, maybe he would be able to do more Fuck him.
Speaker 1:Okay, alright, albums, albums. Oh no, 45 Polka. Are we ready? Oh, we're going to do it. Let's just do it. Yeah, yeah, I got the whole stack right here.
Speaker 2:All right, I'm going to bury these.
Speaker 1:I got a few that don't have covers on them. I'm just going to bury them somehow. They don't get caught up in things, all right, and here you go, I'm going to start, just grab this right here. First one is this will start with you. 20th Century Records. Oh boy, oh, we had this one recently. Stephanie Mills what you Gonna Do With my Lovin'?
Speaker 2:Oh good, minor hit right, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, not bad.
Speaker 1:Let's see what we got down here, reaching in, pulling out, oh fuck. Oh well, a little bigger hit. Andy Gibb, I just want to be your everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:RSO Records right.
Speaker 2:I think you're beating me now. I think that's.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was a big hit.
Speaker 2:Pick one for Lou.
Speaker 1:All right, yeah, let's pick one for lou. Let's just keep it interesting. That's a good idea. Lou's not available tonight, but he's available for text messages.
Speaker 2:Uh, what's that? He said that yeah, oh, I'm gonna text that fucker that's what I told him.
Speaker 1:Uh oh, there's. We've had this one recently also. He always gets these types of songs the Tramps. That's where the happy people go Down at the disco. All right, let's dig down here. I'm going to go a little deeper into this. Here you go, this is yours From Atlantic Records. Oh boy, daryl Hall and John Oates, I'm going to burn your house. She's gone. Okay, oh, not bad. Awesome, not bad. You got two consistent songs. Yep, consistence. Let's see. This one will be mine. I have grand funk, some kind of wonderful. Oh, that was a big one. Kind of wonderful. I think you're in the lead, all right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, grand funk, I think over yeah, considering that was a, and I love the 99 cents I love that and the red sleeve.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not both.
Speaker 1:Is Lou. Let's get another, a cheesy disco song for Lou. What do we?
Speaker 2:got Pops ellipses.
Speaker 1:Oh, lou got a good one. Oh, steal his wheel. A&m records stuck in the middle with you. A&m Records Stuck in the Middle with you. So he's got a cheesy disco song and a song that's still got legs today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, had a little rebirth from the movie Reservoir Dogs and Malcolm in the Middle.
Speaker 1:You got the third one right, you got the third one, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay. So I do me first. Okay, you do you, you do you, you do you. Motown records, diana ross and the supremes, and I don't know either one of them. I'm living in shame and I'm so glad I got somebody like you around. Oh, you don't know that song.
Speaker 1:No, maybe if I heard it, neither do I, I'm just you know that's good for Diana Ross crap yeah. Okay, all right, what do I got? Come on, give me something. Good, I could use a win tonight. Give me something good. Wow.
Speaker 2:Oh, epic records. Oh, Michael Jackson, Billy Jean, oh winner.
Speaker 1:That's it, yeah.
Speaker 2:Anything the winner.
Speaker 1:Yep, that's the winner, no matter what.
Speaker 2:And, by the way, scott, I wrote an MJ BJ. That's how I wrote it. We have no taste around here. Um all right, lou, taste around here. Um all right, lou lou cannot possibly get a mid fluffy thing. Let's see atlantic records. Dusty springfield, son of a preacher man.
Speaker 1:That's a good one, but yeah billy jean and grand funk some kind of wonderful and andy gibb I just those are three hits right there, definitely All right, I got the fucking win. Finally, jesus, finally, at least something went good.
Speaker 2:Let's keep the drummer from winning.
Speaker 1:Since that first initial three weeks in a row he won. I don't think he's won one since. All right, let's see. Let's get into albums. Yeah, Albums of 1981. Well, that was the. I hate to fucking say this, but it was a big hit. Paradise Theater by Styx came out oh yeah, that was a monster hit. Paradise Theater by Styx came out oh yeah, that was a monster. In January 1981. Yeah, Might be the last time I ever listened to them.
Speaker 2:One of the first albums I bought with my own money. I was 12 years old.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 12 years old. Yeah, okay, all right, give us an album from 1981.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go with my favorite David Lee Roth era album, maybe my favorite of theirs, even though I prefer the Sammy era. Fair Warning from Van Halen. Ah, from the album cover, which is just sick, and the title of that painting is like my Life or something. It's actually a guy?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's total chaos. Isn't it A life or something? It's actually a guy. Yeah, it's total chaos isn't it?
Speaker 2:And Dutch artists? He painted it about his life.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I just I got it from my record club and I put it on. I knew about Van Halen, I knew them, but that was the first full Van Halen album. I listened to it. Pull up the track list. It's a classic. But it was one of their poorest selling albums.
Speaker 1:Ah, my father, the old Vikings watching. Oh, what's up, daddy-o All right. Wait, let's do this, let's do this, let's see. So is that my father's watching the old Viking? That's enough of that.
Speaker 2:Show's got to go good now, no mistakes.
Speaker 1:I can't make any mistakes. He'll yell at me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is not real long hair. I'm wearing a wig.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh, uh-huh, you're a hippie. Give me the track list.
Speaker 2:Mean Street Dirty Movies. Sinner Swing Hear About it Later. Unchained. Push Comes to Shove. So this is Love, sunday Afternoon in the Park. Remember that one Wow, wow, wow, wow, and One Foot Out the Door, the thrashiest song they ever did. I think. What was the third cut Sinner's Swing, next one Hear About it Later. Yeah, song they ever did. I think. What was the? What was the third cut center swing? Next one hear about it later. Yeah, that's a good song. Oh yeah, that's a really good song off that album. Now that closes side one. You have to flip it. But the nice thing about cds is it goes from that right into unchained, which are yeah, that's two of their best songs, yeah songs. His playing on that is the most unbridled. It sounds the most jazzy. At times he had more control over that album than David Lee Roth, so that's what I like about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yep, good album. Let's see what came out. Toto came out. Turn Back. Yeah, let me look at the uh track listing on that gift with golden gun. English eyes live for today a million miles away.
Speaker 2:goodbye, elena, I think I can stand you forever turn no yeah no, huge radio hits but it was a weird album for them because they tried to get heavy, yeah, and it bombed. It didn't do good and the record label kind of told them get your acting gear or you're going to lose your contract. Their next album was total four. Yeah, a lot of those songs are really good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yep, all right, what do you got?
Speaker 2:I'm going to go with Dave Phillips Abacab, one of my favorite Genesis albums. I have no problem with the Phil Collins ears. I love it. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I will. I will see that. I will see Abacab, uh-huh, and I will raise you. Face value by Phil Collins oh, yeah, yeah, with uh in face value by phil collins. Oh yeah, yeah, with uh in the air tonight, this must be love. Behind the lines, the roof is leaking, droned. Hand in hand, I missed again. I think I missed again uh. So if an album had two hits on it, that was a winner. Yeah, back in the day, but had two hits, uh. You know what I mean thunder and lightning.
Speaker 2:I'm not moving if leaving me is easy and tomorrow never knows now I wish jack mccartney song by the way, yeah, and it dake, yeah, uh, the if leaving me was easy. I wish somebody like lou or jack was here to help me with this, because he credits eric clapton on guitar. I don't hear any guitar on it. I don't hear anything. So I'm like he must be just like strumming in the background or something, maybe. And why would Jack know about that? Well, they're two musicians, they know stuff.
Speaker 1:Jack would just make it up. No, I might, maybe, maybe.
Speaker 2:Maybe the professor would know, though.
Speaker 1:Yes, he would. Yes, he would All right Give. The professor would know though yes, he would. Yes, he would All right well give us another album from 1981.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go with Stevie Nicks' debut Belladonna with Edge of Seventeen Huge. I still remember that summer my sister Allie every time Stop Dragging my Heart Around came on the radio. She would blast it and it was on the radio constantly Huge.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, huge. Let's see, it's a track listing on this. So journey came out with uh, captured right, that had lights on it. I think that was the big hit off that album well captured was the live album.
Speaker 2:It was the. It's the last album with Greg Rowley before Jonathan Cain came in.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's right, it's a two-record set.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so what was that? It was the last record before.
Speaker 2:Jonathan Cain keyboards. So Greg Rowley was the guy that used to sing some of those songs. You'd hear his voice with Steve Perry, he was the old singer. Oh, okay, with steve perry he was the old singer. Oh, he did some songs on his own. He had a very mid-range and then after that he left the band and jonathan came, came in and, if you want my pick, the same year escape came out. Monster, yeah, monster.
Speaker 1:That was all jonathan cain so that's kind of like a uh david thing where he came into pink floyd like later, but had a huge, huge effect on on the music, right? Yeah, changed them actually.
Speaker 2:Right, changed them a bit he, he gave the melodics that they need. He always had those melodies like comfortably numb, perfect example. Yeah, the verses are brooding pure waters, and then David Gilmour comes in. There's no pain, you know there is no pain you are receding. Breathe right. His vocals are just so good, you know.
Speaker 1:I love the fact that Jonathan Cain is a pain in Neil Sean's ass For some reason. I take joy in that.
Speaker 2:I used to take sides on that and I stopped. They're both hugely rich. They're gonna have money for the rest of their lives. It's to a point where they just tour because they want to make. Yeah, you make them money, but it's like you know, let them fight. It's more entertaining for us, so they were arguing over a credit card that is funny for a fucking credit card. Uh, do you know? Every hard working person that read that story says it sounds like my job or my marriage. Yeah, yeah, right right um?
Speaker 1:did you just give an album?
Speaker 2:yeah, I gave escape oh, escape, that's which had don't stop believing who's crying. Now open arms. I, that was a massive album yeah, yeah, let's see Stray Cats came out with their debut album Stray Cats, and that didn't have any hits right Runaway Boys.
Speaker 1:Runaway Boys? Oh, it did. It had Stray Cats strut rock this town. Oh yeah, runaway Boys was like the third one. Uh, that, that there's it was. It was a a minor hit compared to stray cats and rock this town. Yeah, that was the. That was the album that launched them. Yeah, okay, great concept back in the day. Yeah, that rockabilly with the, with the stand-up bass and the you know the snare drum and the uh cymbal very basic.
Speaker 2:When you had heavy metal, starting with the big drum kits, you still had the 70s bands out there with the big drum kits.
Speaker 1:And here's a teeny little drum kit retro guitar, upright bass yeah, yeah, but fortunately brian sesson knew how to play the guitar. Oh, he's a great guitar. Yeah, he knew how to play the guitar, so and they had the look they were made for the 80s the 80s, basically. If they came out in the 90s, they'd have flannel shirts on, you know what I mean, or they'd be way over the top. Rockabilly, yeah, with the pointy show, the toed boots with the, whatever.
Speaker 2:They were perfect for the 80s yeah, yeah you know they, they were kind of like twisted sister. They had to go to england to get any success and then they came back stars yeah yeah, uh, what do you got?
Speaker 2:I'm gonna dial it down on the popularity thing a bit. I don't know if you ever heard of a band called japan from england. If you haven't, I advise checking them out because you might like them. They get the keyboardist, richard barbieri, later joined porcupine tree. They were a pop band and they had an album called tin drum and it was kind of like the first album where they got their own voice I don't check it out sometime.
Speaker 2:It's, um, it's a little bit synth pop, it's definitely. Yeah it keyboards play the biggest role in that band. Uh, david sylvain was the singer you've heard of him. I'm sure sounds familiar. Yeah, but it's worth checking out. I think you would like it not to be confused with sylvain.
Speaker 1:Sylvain from the, uh, from the, the new york dolls, right yeah the same guy. Yeah, uh 1981 38 special took off man with wild-eyed southern boys and hold on loosely is really the uh, hold on. I gotta answer this lady. She's like are you still there? I'm live right now. I'm gonna tell I'm live right now. I'm going to tell her I'm live, I'm live right now. Having a shitty show. Come on with me. Lol. Yeah, there she is, she's right on the screen.
Speaker 1:Her name is Tempestest give her lou's number I said tell her to talk to lou I said tell her to call me like. This is my number. My name is lou. Are you an executive? Are you on linkedin?
Speaker 2:I was just going to say that.
Speaker 1:Yep, you're on LinkedIn Tempest. That's a stripper name. How did she come up with that name If that's her real name, can't?
Speaker 2:be, can't be, although kids are named. Everything nowadays, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is what it is.
Speaker 2:Superfly has been used.
Speaker 1:I've heard a few times kids to yeah, let's see what fly has been used.
Speaker 2:I've heard a few times kids too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, uh, let's see, what do we got? Uh, europe, europe. No, you're up. What's that? Europe, you're up? Oh, you're up. Oh okay, we're still warming up here, still warming up, still warming up, uh, let's see, still warming up, still warming up, let's see. Nope, that was a shitty album. See, I'm not real. The who Face Dancers came out in 91. The Pop who.
Speaker 2:I like that album yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Face Dancers.
Speaker 2:Just Another Shitty Day.
Speaker 1:Just Another, you Better, you better, you bet. Yeah, don't let go the coat. The quiet one. You another tricky day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, not bad, not a great album, but a good album.
Speaker 2:I was young, so again 12 years old. I'm living on what I hear on the radio. So that was a big song that was played quite a bit in the New York area.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, what do you got?
Speaker 2:I'm going to go with and I actually like this album the very first Motley Crue album, too Fast for Love. It was punky, it was raw, it was messy, but Roy Thomas Baker produced it and he kept it all together and they made a really good first album.
Speaker 1:All right, uh, jefferson Starship came out in modern times, but I, that's junk.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's got like ones. They're weird. They have one or two good songs and they have these throwaway songs that I just can't listen to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, just junk. Uh, rick James came out with Street Songs. Street Songs, give it to me, baby, give it to me. And Super Freak, Super Freak was on that album. A huge album, yeah, yeah, big album, big album From Rick James. Bitch, show me your titties. I know I'm Rick James, bitch, show me your titties.
Speaker 2:I know I'm heavy, scott, you don't have to say that Ah, there we go. All right, I got a good one for you, october, you too.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, second album yeah, I glossed over that album for years. I never really listened to it. My son got me the vinyl reissue on the heavy, heavy vinyl came with a booklet, all that and I gave it a listen. I'm like why did I skip this album when I was younger? It's a great album. Pull up the track listing. Uh, yeah, I mean it starts with gloria, right? Yep, yeah, how do you spell october?
Speaker 1:how do you spell october? Is that what you said?
Speaker 2:oh, lord, I spelt it like a german with a k. All right, so it opens with gloria. Yep, I fall down. Yeah, I threw a brick through a window, did that a few times in my life. Uh, rejoice, fire. Tomorrow, october, what a shout. Jerusalem, in parentheses, stranger, in a strange land, scarlet, and is that all?
Speaker 1:all good songs. Yeah, and it was huge hits. Gloria was the big hit off that, you know the video, but the whole album. And again, they were pretty smart, Whoever was pulling the strings on them. They gave them the idea to switch it up Like don't sound like boy Right, Come at us with. Don't sound like boy Right, Come at us with a whole different sound. Yeah, they did that for a number of albums, probably six albums in a row that totally different sound than the last album.
Speaker 2:It's not easy to do. No, and there was a lot of tension in the band. All but one of them became Christians and I believe it was the base I think it was was the bass player. Uh, it didn't become, so there was tension over that. Uh, bono, he lost, famously lost his book of lyrics in a cab in new york, so he had to rush all the lyrics for this album right everything was kind of thrown together, but the, the booklet, even when they were young.
Speaker 2:It's funny. I'm looking at the pictures. Even back then it's like, oh, we're going to take a picture, let's all look in a different direction, because every picture they all look in a different direction yeah, all right, I'm going to read this.
Speaker 1:Uh, it's off a. Uh, it's off a morrissey and the smiths facebook group, and they posted this today. So it's funny. It says it must be funny. It must be funny being you too. Imagine you're the world's biggest group. Your every move receives the full glare of public security or scrutiny. Your every utterance is scanned for meaning and import. You can sell out concerts across the globe, get world leaders on the phone and have millions queued to buy your records. And yet in your heart of hearts, you know you weren't a patch on the Smiths. And this doesn't only apply to you two. It goes for Guns N' R roses, nirvana, bruce springsteen and every other colossus of modern rock. Each in their own way have good things to offer. But let's be serious. They weren't the smiths, were they? That was from select magazine and an article in spring 1994.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's pretty cool, that is guaranteed to cause a little controversy oh, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1:are you kidding me? I saw that I I tend to agree, because there was just that uniqueness of the smiths I really thought you were gonna say that was a quote from morrissey, but no, no, no. Well, he probably would say that I don't think he he doesn't give two shits about that stuff, yeah, like about what they do and who they do. He really doesn't, and that that's admirable.
Speaker 2:Does he, does he do any Smith's material in concert?
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, he does probably uh up to maybe four songs a show. Okay, so he doesn't totally diss it. He said, yeah, he said he doesn't want to be an oldies, because that's what you do If you go and play only Smith songs, then you're an oldies act. Yeah, I get it, and his catalog has tripled the Smiths catalog by now. Yeah, that's true. But yeah, I've gotten to see a good grouping of Smith songs in the three times I've seen them. Yeah, oh, here we go Newsflash, newsflash, yep.
Speaker 1:Yep, yep, big head, todd, the wet sprocket, he's here, he's late, he's late. He wants to be entertained and he's late.
Speaker 2:Okay, here it is in a nutshell. Todd Scott came on royally pissed off, he and he's late. Okay, here it is in a nutshell. Todd Scott came on royally pissed off. He was lashing out, it was ugly. He threw something and he calmed down. He noticed his dad was on and his big brother's on and everything's cool. Now we're happy.
Speaker 1:We're a little mellow tonight. I won 45 poker. There you go, yeah, yeah, big Head Todd's. Lucky he wasn't on then, because I would have lashed out at him like I lashed out at Bob Kirkman.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't see him anymore.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I scared him away. Oh, he did say quite your whining and get in the trunk. It's quite the whining there. So what's that? Quit your whining and get in the trunk. You know what that's from? Right, yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, quentin movie right? Yeah, jackie Brown, there you go, drives around the block and boom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, one of the greatest scenes ever. What song was?
Speaker 2:playing. Oh Lord, you brought that up one other time. Lou got it. I can't remember Strawberry.
Speaker 1:Letter 22. The Isley Brothers, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's not the Isley Brothers brothers, that's the uh.
Speaker 1:Anyway, you hear his muffled voice, okay let me out, let me know, yeah, yeah, yeah, uh, let's see, here we go um is this uh? Is this the one? No, I'm, I'm, I'm fucking.
Speaker 2:I am not with it tonight, all right you want me to throw one in while you're looking? Yeah, yeah, uh, I just had it. Hold on. Oh, here we go yeah, okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1:Uh, the psychedelic furs, talk, talk talk came out in 81. That was uh pretty in pink was the oh that one okay, oh, pretty in pink was, and that that out, that alone, along with the movie. Yeah, probably sent that album, which doesn't have any other hits. Uh, it's probably at least gold.
Speaker 2:It's the only way I knew them. I'm a teenager, I just knew that song.
Speaker 1:What did my brother just say? Milkshakes in well water. Milkshakes in well water. To think there was a time when I almost changed the name of this podcast early on in in in the uh, in the early stages of this, like my episode five, I was like I got to make a move here. I either got to change the name or and Jack convinced me to not change the name and look look at all the uh, the different variations that people give this milk duds and waterman, something like that.
Speaker 2:You know whatever. I bet you know what. Though, when Perry recommended the show to me, he said dude, you got to check out. It's called milk crates and turntables. That title got me. That's why I watched.
Speaker 1:Ah yeah, For real, real music People get it. Yeah, real Rail music, people get it. Give me an album from 81.
Speaker 2:As Far as I Am from Red Ryder, do you remember that album? Does that? Have lunatic fringe. Yeah, yeah, but the whole album is good.
Speaker 1:I know you're out there. Yeah, the whole album's good yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no hits. No other hits off it, but they're good songs. It was before. What's His Name? Tom Cochran got really commercial.
Speaker 1:Ah, okay, was before. Uh, what's his name? Tom cochran got really commercial, uh, okay that's the life is a highway. Oh, if I hear that song one more time that's isn't that the uh the, the episode of the office and they go on the road trip and they all they played uh uh duran. Duran's debut album came out in 1981, self-titled girls on film no, that wasn't on that one no oh, it was on that one, yeah, but I'll tell you what their first.
Speaker 1:You know what their what song was? Their first hit? It got re-released, I believe, um but, and put on this album. But their first hit, the first release, was this is planet earth. Yeah, that had uh, girls on film. Planet earth, careless memories yeah, so two and a half good songs on there there was.
Speaker 2:There was always something about duran dururan. So I was like 12, 13 years old and a big progressive music fan. They appealed to me on the progressive side. I don't get why, maybe it was just the keyboards, but it's the epicness of some of their songs Very, very, very good compositions.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, produced too, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:Well produced. What do you think of that? Four from Farner that was their turn down. All produced, uh, all right. Four from foreigner that was there. Yeah, that was a good one, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I resisted it for years. It was too big for me, I liked head games and stuff, but now it's a really good album yeah, uh, this one one hit wonder off this album.
Speaker 1:but she to me, her, this girl and the lead singer from New Shoes, I can't wait. Right, okay, I just thought she was so fucking beautiful. She was back then, right, and I wasn't really into blondes. But this one right here, kim Wilde Kids in america. Kim wilde was a fucking hottie blondie, she was an 80s hottie. Yeah, she's, she was a definite 80s hottie kids in america.
Speaker 2:Whoa, we're the kids in america.
Speaker 1:Uh, big head todd the wet sprockets says scott America. Big head Todd DeWitt Sproggins says Scott came out in 1981. Yeah, I came out of your mouth Shut up.
Speaker 2:No, you were just in your house for a while, yeah.
Speaker 1:But Kim Wilde, she was a hottie. I got the 45 around here somewhere, All right what do you got?
Speaker 2:This one's for the Professor Fire, of Unknown Origin from Bloister Cult, which had their huge radio hit Burning For you and one of their weirdest songs, joan Crawford. Joan Crawford is Risen From the Grave. Great song, ah yeah. A lot of that music was written for the heavy metal soundtrack, because they were going to do the whole soundtrack and then they only had one or two songs in it.
Speaker 1:So most of this album was for that yeah, uh, 1981, deaf leopard comes out with High and Dry.
Speaker 2:The album that got me into them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the big hit Bringin' on the Heartbreak. Yeah, let it Go. I think it was a hit High and Dry but Bringin' on the Heartbreak. Great song Big one, yeah yeah. And you know what I look at the song listing and Clock Savage, elliot Clock Willis Elliot. Willis Clock. Elliot Willis Clock. Rick Allen, elliot Clock Savage Elliot. Like there was no, just like sting, yeah, yeah, sting. Yeah, here we go, this song sting. Like they did a good job at breaking up writing credits.
Speaker 2:That was like their last really heavy true rock album before they kind of went over to the commercial side Photograph was I mean that was great.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Pyromania was after that. Yeah, but this was the last album with Pete Willis as a full member. So in the beginning stages of recording pyromania he got fired so he had, yeah, this high and dry. He had a lot of uh influence and also mutt lang. This is the first album they did with him, so they were starting to get into that mutt lang sound. But yeah, I actually I probably prefer pyromania. That, to me, is a really good album.
Speaker 1:Yep, yep what do you?
Speaker 2:got uh gonna go with. Uh, I just had it picked out. All right, it's for dave jay gals band freeze frame. Love him or hate him. That album was all over this it was yeah yeah, it was freaky videos, just very weird videos which All fucking videos were weird in 1981.
Speaker 1:Yes, all videos were weird in 1981. No video made any sense in 1981. If you could pull oh, he's back Fucking Bob Kirkman, has he quite See? Now, you know, the motherfucker doesn't know how to spell it could be auto-spell Because he did quit twice?
Speaker 1:No, no, auto-spell will let you write quit, but he puts a knee at the end of it, not once. Once it's a mistake, once it's like okay, twice, that's how he fucking spells quit q-u-i-t-e. You know. You know what rhymes with quit? Nitwit, ah, nitwit. Bob kirkman, nitwit, bob Kirkman, nitwit. Is it okay to come back? No, no, it's never. It's never okay To come back, Bob Kirkman.
Speaker 1:Bob Kirkman. Is it safe? Is it safe, bob Kirkman? Is it safe? It's not safe. Ah, let's see. What are you looking at? What are you counting your money there, mark no. What I'm? No money there, mark no what I'm.
Speaker 2:No, no, no. Facebook just changed my quit to quite. It did when I was typing. I just wanted to tell you this isn't facebook, though, I know, but I just tried to comment on facebook, so that doesn't this, not that. Hey, that's not that I gotta be the yang to your yin okay this is this, that's not that.
Speaker 1:This, and you know, you know what that. You know what that gets your penalty box. I got to be the yang to your yin. Okay, this is this, that's not that, and you know what that gets you. Penalty box that's right. It's a one-man show right now. That's fine, I can do it. I've done it before, I'll do it again. I can talk for fucking two hours. Everybody knows that, that's for sure. So Mark Smith thinks he can call me out with the see. Mark proved it. No, mark see. Now. You just gave him an extended time in the penalty box. You're encouraging him. You're encouraging him to be a rebellious, an anarchist, a milk crates and turntables anarchist. I think he has a tent over in Columbia University, if I remember correctly. I think he has one of those green tents over there. That's him. He's an anarchist. Now he's back. What's he balancing? 45s on his head.
Speaker 2:Because number seven what?
Speaker 1:the fuck the things I do in the penalty box. Uh, hey, you know what came out 1981. Zz top l loco did that have dirty?
Speaker 2:uh, cheap sunglasses nope, no nope, it had.
Speaker 1:Uh, let's see. Uh, call my brother, call them claims has stayed up all night watching mtv until the sun came up and the birds chirping. What a horrible feeling. Yeah, and you weren't. You weren't up just because you wanted to be up. It's because you fucking had no chance.
Speaker 2:No, no, no saying it because okay, this is some deep family stuff here.
Speaker 1:No, cocaine, my friend cocaine. It was 81, that was the beginning of a great decade of cocaine. Greed is good. Yeah, no, el loco had tube snake boogie. She does the boogie, tube snake boogie, uh. And pearl necklace, pearl necklace. That was dusty hill saying on that one, I think okay yeah, el loco talk about a consistent band with this sound god, I saw them on their the.
Speaker 2:The big tour was the eliminator, right where they had the big hits. Yeah, yeah, I'm in high school. We nabbed whatever tickets we could get. We were like the last row in the metal lands arena it was. You couldn't even know what song they were doing. It was horrible, the echoey sound. It was like, ah, oh, really, yeah, yeah, okay, hey, I'm the normie again. Cool, yeah, you're a normie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what he called you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what he called you. I like that. I've been called much worse. Yeah, I got one for you here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Diary of a Madman, ozzy Osbourne, his second album. It didn't have Crazy Train train, but I prefer that album. There was something really good. And growing up in a religious household, that cover where he mimics little reagan from the exorcist was gold to me. Look, dad, look at this album cover. I'm just gonna look. There's an upside down cross. I'm just gonna put it on my stereo. Don't note to parents don't push your kids on religion yeah, don't do it uh, let's, we made up years later, don't, by the way? Yeah?
Speaker 1:let's see what came out in 1981 is this the?
Speaker 2:uh?
Speaker 1:no, that came a little earlier, came out a little earlier. Let's go down. You know you start going through all these and you're like you know what? There really wasn't. That fucking wasn't. There was a lot of the same shit being played, but there was a lot of albums that came out that didn't really have yeah, didn't really have much going on. The pretenders 2 came out in 1981 that's my favorite pretenders album. Yeah, I think, todd sockman's been watching for what fucking 15, 17 minutes now and now this nitwit speaking of nitwits.
Speaker 2:Uh, notices lou's not here so, todd, at the beginning of the show, when scott was like really pissed off, uh, he just knocked blue off the show. Yeah, and that was it who made a joke? And that's why I'm towing the line here.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Whatever you want. Whatever you want, boss. Uh, what did my brother call and say they deserve the MTV money. Who's they? Probably ZZ Top.
Speaker 2:What's that? Maybe ZZ Top. I guess I can't say ZZ I, it's, it's ZZ Top.
Speaker 1:I guess I can't say ZZ, it's a speech impediment. Yeah, it's like you with Pacific You're drinking that fucking yellow jacket wine.
Speaker 2:A yellow fucking ribbon. You say Pacific. What's your excuse?
Speaker 1:We got speech problems Listen you gotta be more Pacific about that.
Speaker 2:Yay, you did it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, pretenders 2 came out. Yeah, I love that album In 1981. And that track listing Message of Love Yep, I Go to Sleep. Talk of the Town Right, great song. They did their version of Louie Louie Right. Yeah, good album.
Speaker 2:But it opens up Like the Adulterous and Bad Boys Get Spanked. When I first heard that Now, that year I got these albums as I was in the RCA Record Club, so if you didn't mail your card in, you got the selection of the month, that's the year that I got High and Dry, pretenders 2. And, like I put on this album, when you hear the Adulterous, that's some heavy stuff. It was really good. Ah yeah good, ah yeah yeah. All right, what do you got? Um, I'm gonna keep it, keep it in the hard rock genre. And, uh, the second album with ronnie james d omob rules by black sabbath. I preferred that one to heaven and hell. Just a sick, dark, good album. Good, which led to the live Tour which came out as a double album next year, and it had the great Vinnie Apeachy on drums, brother of Carmine Apeachy.
Speaker 1:Apeachy, apeachy, I don't know how to say it yeah, whatever he's called, yeah, 1981, one of my favorite songs of the year, still one of my favorite songs. One of those songs I never turn off. When it's on, one of those songs that's so good, even if it's three quarters of the way through, you still listen to it, right? You do that, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, you pick up a song. It's halfway done. You're like I'll still listen to it. Uh, what does my brother say? Patch dog will listen to the rest. Smitty, the normie capital lettuce. Uh, in other words, he's done for the night. He's done for the night.
Speaker 1:He's probably gonna go to bed, old man stay up all night and watch mtv uh, luther vandross came out with the album never too much, but the song never too much, never too much, never too much, never too. Yeah, baby Yep, great Luther, that was fat Luther too. Uh-huh, that was fat Luther. Fat Luther was better than skinny Luther.
Speaker 2:Colin just reminded me of something I got to put on the the Rangers game. Right, the Rangers. And then I got to keep the Celtics playing tonightics playing tonight.
Speaker 1:I think they are so I can put it on a double screen while we're talking.
Speaker 2:Look at you all right. Buddy rangers and knicks are doing good this year hey, what are the chances?
Speaker 1:not after last night? I don't know. This is going to be a tough series with the, the bruins and the in the panthers, anyways, anyways, but what are the chances of the Rangers-Bruins and the Knicks-Celtics squaring off?
Speaker 2:I think it's more of a chance than the hockey department that would rejuvenate this New York-Boston rivalry that's been dead since.
Speaker 1:Big Papi retired. It's never really been the same since.
Speaker 2:Well, new York-Madison Square Garden sports have been an adulterum thanks to Timothy Dolan, and you're not supposed to say that in public, because he's banned fans from Madison Square Garden forever. Oh, he must be a liberal, then no, no, no, he's a typical owner. Don't go there.
Speaker 1:Here we go again. Cancels people.
Speaker 2:He just knows he's got a cash cow, because everyone that comes to New York wants to see that. I've seen the Rangers playing, getting pummeled in their war season. The place is packed, yeah, so why does he care? He doesn't want to put on a, you know, a team on the ice, so, and he does that with the Knicks too, he owns them both. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hate that. I hate owners like off. You know you can do both Right. So, uh, give me an album. Um, well, it had one huge hit. I don't really remember the rest of it, but um, uh, how do you call it? Wait, hold on the completion backward principle from the tubes that had talked to you later.
Speaker 1:Love that song.
Speaker 2:And that's Steve Lukather on guitar and he helped write it. He had a big part of that album.
Speaker 1:Talk to you later it's a great fucking song. Yeah, yeah, good video too at the press conference yeah press conference thing that was done. Well, that one at least made a little bit of sense, right, you know uh let me see.
Speaker 2:okay, both games are in commercial, just so you know Okay.
Speaker 1:Well, I guess I liked them back then. What was this? Was this a Billy Joel Songs in the Attic?
Speaker 2:I like that album.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's got a way.
Speaker 2:That had the really good version of Lou's favorite song, Captain Jack.
Speaker 1:Captain Jack, yeah, that's right. That's my favorite Billy Joel song, one of three that I'll listen to.
Speaker 2:And Sagabow to Hollywood, miami, 2000, whatever Good stuff, yep, yep.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2:What you got, I just had it, darn it All right. What you got, I just had it, darn it All right. Going to get a little. I know we did 1981 because I said this the last time, but Pat Matheny not with the group has Falls, wichita. So Falls, wichita Falls. If Tom is listening, he'll be the only one that knows what it is. But I've said to everybody if you want some magical music when you have anxiety or just want to go into another zone, listen to that album. It's a great album. Can't recommend it enough and I know you would like it. You would like.
Speaker 1:It's a good driving album uh, 1981 hollow notes, private eye, private eyes, they're watching you. Yeah, had, I can't go for that. Uh did it in a minute. That's big head todd oh yeah, sprocket did it in a minute. Yeah, that might be giving him a little more credit than he deserves, though, so yeah, but uh, yeah, big album, big album for them. You know it started their, their partial dominance of the 80s. Yeah, yeah, that was shared by a couple of uh, couple of groups which got uh, let's see.
Speaker 2:all right, this was a weird time for elton john. He was really not popular. He put on an album called the Fox, do you remember that? No, he didn't have Bernie Taupin as his lyricist and he was kind of doing more morose songs. That period started with Blue Moves, which is really probably my favorite album, so I like it. I got it out of my local library. I remember seeing it and I liked it. But it's a period that you'll never really hear about from anything. But just a bunch of single man was another album, right, just forgotten albums uh 81, uh, the police ghost in the machine.
Speaker 1:Uh, that's one, that's probably that are my favorites, big one, yeah, spirits in the material world. Every little thing she does is magic, invisible sun demolition man yeah, big one. Yep. And let me see writing credits. Uh, andy summers gets like one on omega man, like it's one credit. Stewart copeland gets one on darkness and uh, ruminize yourself, but all the rest, like side one. They don't give the writers. You know who it is. Yeah, yeah, well, they let them do it. Yep, oh they, they didn't fight back. They didn't fight back.
Speaker 2:So cause they knew if he quit they were done.
Speaker 1:So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:By the way, Boston is leading Cleveland. Yeah, I'm not surprised there. All right, I'm going to go with Joe Walsh, no matter what he does His albums, I like them. I don't hate any of his. He put out an album called there Goes the Neighborhood, the one where he's sitting on a tank on a cover.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:That had A Life of Illusion, which is one of the best pop songs ever written. Remember that song? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Nothing else on there, you'd know, though, so right, uh, I was never a big joe walsh fan. Like not enough to follow, not enough to buy any of his records. Yeah, I hear him on the radio. I had some james gang albums that I inherited but it wasn't uh, yeah, wasn't my purchase, so I was never a huge. I liked his hits Life's Been Good to Me, rocky Mountain Way but never really was enough to drive me to the record store A lot of people.
Speaker 2:That's why his albums didn't sell huge amounts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, prince came out with Controversy in 1981. Ah, yeah, which had, yeah, which had controversy on it. I mean, the whole album is good. I listened to from uh cover to cover. Uh, good album, it's a really good album. Uh, that's when he really started upping his his game, like in the sound, bigger sound, yeah, you know, which then led to uh, uh, what is it? 1999, I think after that, and it just his sound just kept getting bigger and bigger it's funny.
Speaker 2:He had that sound, but he didn't do it recording in la or or new york. He had it recording in minnesota. You know, that's that's what makes him great. That's what I like about Dwight Yoakam. The guy doesn't go to Nashville, he stays in California. They do their sound, but they're not where they supposedly should be.
Speaker 1:Hold on one second.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh yeah, I'm alone. Well, lou and I were discussing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's enough of that.
Speaker 2:Geez, I'm looking off screen here. They're all going to watch me drink and burp. Not for that you fucker. Don't do that again. Give me an album. This is my face. The first album that Rainbow had with Jolin Turner on vocals Difficulty Cure. That's a really good album in my book's.
Speaker 1:when they started to really go aor you know hard, he was trying to be foreigner, right right, all right, let's round up with a couple more that'll take us up to an hour, and then we'll finish out with uh movies from 1981. How's that okay? Yeah, so uh, give me an album.
Speaker 2:Another One Rides the Bus by Weird Al Yankovic. Oh Jesus, right, right, oh boy, that's when he just had the whatchamacallit, the squeeze box, you know yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the Cars came out with Shake it Up in 81. Shake it up.
Speaker 2:That's when I started to lose them, Like I didn't like all the songs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they started getting real poppish they started playing to the MTV crowd.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they had good songs, but you know that had since you're gone, which I love, that's yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But the rest of just very poppish, not like their first album or candy oh, they just got poppish Well candy. Yo, they just got published well that's where the money was so exactly, and it was mutt lang producing them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah or no.
Speaker 1:He didn't do that album, but what do you got?
Speaker 2:uh, I sent you a video from this album the other night. I said, if you want last point of entry from judas priest, which had one of their best songs called uh heading down to the highway, but had a song called hot rocking did. The lyrics are dumb and in the video they're lifting weights without shirts on. You know, yeah, I want to go fucking horrible I couldn't get past that.
Speaker 1:I fast-forwarded. I'm like, oh lord you should have heard fire on their boots and fire on their drums and fire on the edge of their guitars and fire and and fucking muscle men weight lifting I have never heard perry laugh so hard.
Speaker 2:I sent him that video, I thought he was going to die. He couldn't stop laughing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 1981,. For those about to rock, we salute you, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Good album.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:How did I?
Speaker 1:end up. Hold on one second, let's get that. There we go.
Speaker 2:Give me an album this is for lou rush, moving pictures, tom, so we could just list the whole album track listing tom sawyer, red barchetta, yyz limelight.
Speaker 1:you know, yeah, it's one of the best albums ever released yep, uh, I'm gonna end it with uh, the last song, the last album, released in 1981. Yeah, doesn't it's the artist. Is the tear drop explodes. Oh, good lord, is that an emo band?
Speaker 1:uh well, they're an english post-punk, neo-psychedelic band formed in liverpool in 78, best known for their top 10 UK single Reward. The group originated as a key band in the emerging Liverpool post-punk scene of the late 1970s. Okay, let's see, let's give them a little credit. Oh, the group also launched the career of group frontman Julian Cope.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, there you go. Who hosted the first few episodes of unplugged on mtv?
Speaker 1:ah, that's right and they fired him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, ah, good call, good call all right, let me ask you something really quick. So you're all you know. The manchester scene, yeah, but besides the beatles, who do you think is the biggest band, besides the beatles come out of liverpool? I was thinking that the other day I'm probably missing someone really big. But besides the Beatles, who do you think is the biggest band, besides the Beatles, to come out of Liverpool? I was thinking that the other day I'm probably missing someone really big.
Speaker 1:To come out of Liverpool. Well, you just prefaced this with I'm a Manchester scene guy, so I don't know shit about Liverpool.
Speaker 2:I thought you would have heard. Yeah, because you turned me on to the Manchester scene. I didn't know about all these bands that were from Manchester. Let me see, they were a little more fluffy. You turn me on to the Manchester scene, like I didn't write all these bands that were from Manchester. Uh, they were a little more fluffy in Liverpool, not as hard edged. I know that.
Speaker 1:Let's see. Yeah, gary, jerry and the pacemakers, you'll never walk alone, right? Echo and the bunny men, I should have known that. Yeah, okay, the laws. There she goes. Frankie goes to hollywood. Really, yep out of liverpool, yeah, oh, that's, that's a good question. The dead or alive?
Speaker 2:you spin me right round, baby right so they got a very credit, credible music scene.
Speaker 1:Well, a flock of seagulls came out, right, they had, they were there, and the teardrop explodes. We just talked about Icicle works. Oh yeah, they came out of Liverpool. Who else let's see? Oh, half man, half biscuit came out.
Speaker 2:I am not the man. I am not the biscuit. I'm only half a man. My bottom half is a biscuit.
Speaker 1:I am not the man, I am not the biscuit, I'm only half a man.
Speaker 2:My bottom half is a biscuit.
Speaker 1:I like to eat it. I'll end this with Elvis Costello, who's from Liverpool.
Speaker 2:I didn't know that either. Yeah, look at that. Is that why he was so good with Paul McCartney and why they played so well together? Probably Well. Paul McCartney said he couldn't continue because it was too good. It was too much like playing with lennon and writing and stuff.
Speaker 1:He just said, ah, you know those other words he didn't like the competition yeah, maybe I just think he was, I don't know, but they did. They mixed well together all the stuff they did yeah, uh, let's jump into, uh, a movie from 1981 wolfen, remember wolfen. Yeah, yeah, wolfen came out.
Speaker 2:Let's see, scared the hell out of me uh, with albert finney right.
Speaker 1:Gregory hines was in it. Let's see what the? Uh. Edward james holmost was in it. Uh, former new York Police Department Captain Dewey Wilson is brought back to the force and assigned to solve a bizarre string of violent murders. After high-profile magnate Christopher Vanderveer, his wife and his bodyguard are slain in Battery Park. Ooh, wow, and oh, even back then. Oh see, this is a change. This is oh, even back then. Oh see, this is a change. This is how things were back then. Executive Security, the private firm employed by Vanderveer, blames the murders on a group of left-wing terrorists.
Speaker 1:Left-wing right-wing Boy. How times have changed.
Speaker 2:You know that now you had to bring that one in.
Speaker 1:I'm just reading it. I didn't. I saw that.
Speaker 2:Oh, there we go it just jumped out at you like a flame.
Speaker 1:You know I just read, it was the next line. I'm sorry, that's what it says. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, fred, I'm sorry. Alright, give me a movie.
Speaker 2:Uh, gonna stick with the horror. The book scared me more. It was the only book that ever really scared me was a, but it was ghost story. That movie and that lineup fred astaire, melvin douglas, douglas fairbanks, jr john houseman, craig watson, patrice patricia, neil andal and Alicia Krieg or whatever. That was a really, really good movie. It was more of an acting movie but the book that really gave me the creeps. Some creepy stories in that book yeah, they're all telling ghost stories.
Speaker 1:Yeah, very, very dark. Patricia Neal, she was kind of a different chick.
Speaker 2:Yeah. She had that raspy like cigarette voice she was in the day the earth stood still yeah and a face in the crowd. Oh okay, I know her yeah, patricia neal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, uh, raiders of the lost ark came on. Anyone class, we don't even have to talk about that next?
Speaker 2:yeah, but you know what? 12 years old, I was kind of scared by some of the parts of that movie, like the like when he's in, like in the beginning, the very opening segment for a 12 year old I was like whoa. Yeah. In the end, when they all burned, that freaked me out.
Speaker 1:Yeah that's right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, rated pg, by the way yeah, next one, we get a pg-13. Uh, what do you got? Um, oh, my dad took me to see this movie. My dad took me to see a lot of movies that year. Do you remember taps? Taps oh, that was the military school gregory.
Speaker 1:Gregory hines, was he in that?
Speaker 2:one yep right and timothy hutton. Let's see, it was georgie scott, timothy hutton, ronnie cox, sean penn and tom cruise ah, that's what it was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, tom cruise played a psycho. He played the way over the top military cadet. Did he jump up on the?
Speaker 2:chair and say it's the best religion for everybody. I don't know.
Speaker 1:But yeah, he was one of those. He was always good at playing intense dudes, my dad, took me that day to a double bill.
Speaker 2:He took me to that and Chariots of Fire, because he knew I'd like taps but then Chiots of fire.
Speaker 1:he, he wanted to see it, I was bored shit. Oh fuck. Yeah, I won the academy award that year.
Speaker 2:I saw it later when I was older. I got it was a good movie, but don't take a 12 year old no no, that's like lou's father.
Speaker 1:When he was 12 11, he took him to fucking behind the green door right according to lou, that's wild.
Speaker 2:That really is, that's hilarious.
Speaker 1:He couldn't have been serious with that. He could not have been serious you know what?
Speaker 2:he wouldn't have made that up. If that's hilarious, would you make that up? I wouldn't.
Speaker 1:I don't know lou's funny like that. Sometimes, man, he's funny like that he's sitting there going.
Speaker 2:He has that dry humor like you don't know if he's, but like you don't know if he's serious or not. That's true, all right, give me a movie. Uh, oh, all right. Uh, nighthawks was music by keith emerson, that's the reason I saw it, but it was, you know, sylvester stallone and um that was the helicopter movie, right uh, well, uh, it was uh, he was a car, he was uh he was a terrorist, yeah, and it was.
Speaker 2:Billy was Billy Dee Williams and Sylvester Stallone as cops, and then Lindsay Wagner was in it too. There was that scene, that trolley that goes to the Island off the Manhattan and the East river where people live, and there was that big scene where he took everyone hostage. And even back then, when I saw it, I said yeah should they be showing this to people and giving people ideas?
Speaker 1:You know you think of that sometimes. You know good movie, though. Rutger Howe was one of the best fucking bad guys ever, absolutely.
Speaker 2:And Sylvester Stallone, you know, if he does the right movie he's good at acting. He was, you know it. Just he did some duds, you know.
Speaker 1:But that was. He's really good in that TV show Tulsa. Really he's really good in that TV show Tulsa.
Speaker 2:Really, he's really fucking good dude. I got to see that.
Speaker 1:Really good. He does a really good job. Rutger Hauer is right up there, and the first time I was witness to Rutger Hauer was Blade Runner, but then the Hitchhiker.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Yes, now that was with. Uh, what was the dude's name? Uh, the kid, uh uh, he was like one of the outskirts of the brat pack. Um, three names or something see. Thomas howell see okay, okay uh, that was a fucking weird movie. I might even watch that again. Yeah, the hitchhiker that.
Speaker 2:That's how I discovered him.
Speaker 1:He puts him in a fucked up position, man, yeah, yeah, torments him the whole fucking movie, right. But Rutger Hauer is up there with Lee Van Cleef. Lee Van Cleef might be the greatest bad guy ever. He even looks like a fucking bad guy. Yeah, he's the bad and the good, the bad, the ugly. Yeah, right, he's playing in all these spaghetti westerns always the bad guy. He just looked like a bad guy.
Speaker 1:He makes bad look cool with the pointy nose and those kind of chinese eyes and that you know very thin set face and yeah, the way he talks he has that deep, deep voice and just fucking great bad guy. Rutger Hauer does it in a different way. Yeah, rutger Hauer is more of a psycho bad guy like sociopathic. He doesn't have to go over the top to be a bad guy If they couldn't get Michael Keaton to play.
Speaker 2:Remember that movie that the couple own a house in San Francisco and they rent the apartment to Michael Keaton and he just destroys them. He puts cockroaches in the place so they can't get them out. Do you remember that movie, something Heights? I can't remember the star, but I always said that Michael Keaton's a good bad guy. But if they had rutger howard in that role it would have went to another level. Rutger howard was just a really good bad guy. You know who also played a bad guy, but he did very few bad guy roles henry fonda, once upon a time in the west when he slaughters that whole family. Yeah, you see him looking at them with a sadness in his eyes, almost like a vampire, like I gotta do this. Like he could play a pretty effective bad guy when robert mitchum was a pretty good.
Speaker 1:He could be a good bad guy oh yeah he was in. Uh, what's the name of that thing that denaro did a remake of?
Speaker 2:it. Yeah, uh, um, yeah, can't remember, but he, he was in the remake too yeah, yeah, robert mitchum was a great. That dude was fucking intense man yeah and there's some good stories about him in hollywood, like because he, if you ever watch emc and they tell stories about that was a bad motherfucker.
Speaker 1:That's when those guys, they were bad motherfuckers back then he was getting stoned back in the 50s yeah none of these pussies like there are today, but they they were. They were bad motherfuckers back then. Yeah, they all had a story, man. They all had a fucking backstory well, you could just add something.
Speaker 2:You just hit on something. That period you had a lot of people that were veterans of world war ii yeah, or a korean war bad motherfuckers.
Speaker 1:So yeah, yeah, um, I watched I. I couldn't believe I watched I. I had to break it up, though. I watched the new it's on Apple TV. The killing what is it killing of? The something moon with Leonardo DiCaprio oh yeah it's fucking 3 hours and 20 minutes.
Speaker 2:They could have condensed that into like I don't know 90 minutes, but they don't have to because it's on apple it's streaming, so you can watch it in two takes, you know 120.
Speaker 1:They could have done it in two hours. They could have cut an hour and fucking 20 minutes out of that thing.
Speaker 2:You know what scorsese is just has no control. He could do whatever he wants, you know, but they did that. What was the other one on netflix that scorsese did the irishman same?
Speaker 1:didn't watch that one. I know that story. I don't want to see another version of it. I like the Joe Pesci version better. Was it him that played Jimmy Hoffa?
Speaker 2:No, that was Jack Nicholson. Oh, that was Hoffa with Danny DeVito In the movie Hoffa right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, who was it who played Hoffa?
Speaker 2:in the movie Hoffa. Right, yeah, who was it who played Hoffa? It was, uh, jack Nicholson, it was, yeah, and Danny DeVito was in it. He played Hoffa. Yeah, if we're talking about the same movie, it was kind of an overproduced Hollywood picture. You know, look at that time period you had Hurricane. Hollywood was just revisiting every historical figure, you know look at Patty Yossi.
Speaker 1:That's why I love Patty. She says they were called men. That's right, baby.
Speaker 2:And backwards. It's nem, yeah what.
Speaker 1:I should fucking penalty box your ass for that one. I'm still not in 100% good mood, so watch it, oh good.
Speaker 2:Good to know.
Speaker 1:So Clash of the titans came out in 81. Now clash of the titans um, that was a fucking pretty good. It was probably the last of the great stop motion movies harry housing, harry, yeah, harry uh whatever his name, yeah, yeah, um, he went on to be in like dynasty, right, yeah, harry hamlin no, I'm talking about the guy that did the stop motion, uh, ray harry hauser or whatever. Yeah, he did that, yeah he learned from the guy that did uh king kong okay yeah, but uh, yeah, those were some.
Speaker 1:Uh, that was some some great stuff for 81. Like you look at it, you're like that's that was 81, it was fairly modern, but everybody remembers, though, the greatest scene in that movie was the fucking skeleton warriors. That and medusa, medusa, yeah medusa with the snake body, oh yeah, with the snake body and the hair with snakes, yeah, and the mechanical owl, yeah, right that was the corny part of the movie, you know there was three of them and they're all still around.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow, yeah, so evidently the guy that created it he was one of these big special effects guys. No one found that thing, like everyone thought it was gone. So there was three sizes there was a little one, and that was when they showed it in the distance, right. Then there was like a mid-size one for a different type of shot, but then there were the close-ups. In the one it was probably, I don't know, uh, foot and a half foot and a half tall, right, yeah, and uh, no one could find it. Everyone's like whatever happened to that thing? And so the the, the guy that created it, he died and they were going through his garage and they opened a crate and there it was collecting dust, fucking sitting in there. It had hay, like it was. It was stored. Nice, oh wow, the dude had it the whole time. He's just like, yeah, yeah, that was mine yeah, he made it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's fuck. That shit's cool. That's like uh, you know that's a piece of pop culture.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know that movie for me because I grew up on the old stop action movie. So what made that special for me was it was a new movie with that stop action. Yeah, I could see it as a 12 year old whoa you know and seeing it was around the time of indiana jones, star wars, you know, and everything so yeah, yeah, on the big screen.
Speaker 1:Good movies came out in 81.
Speaker 2:Yeah, uh, give me one uh, another one for dave phillips, because I agree, arthur, that was a great movie are you a hooker?
Speaker 1:are you a hooker?
Speaker 2:would you want me to rub your balls for you? Is that what he says, john Gielgud or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:American Werewolf in London. Ah, that was, at the time, the greatest special effects for a werewolf ever. Yes, still to me. The fucking torture that you just see him going through the screaming, the bone cracking, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you hear the bones cracking. You just hear it and see it. The face just pops out. Yeah, yeah, american Werewolf in London Good movie, good fucking movie. And that scene where they're in the London underground and you're seeing it through the eyes of the werewolf chasing the guy down the fucking tunnel, yeah right, that was brilliant, yeah that was a brilliant shot. Yep, all kind of distorted.
Speaker 2:It's moving back and forth like he's running you know, yep yeah, good movie, and this is pre-cgi, so you had, like they had, to make these effects with the cameras or it took a really long time. Yeah, I, I hope one day we have a revival of movies made like well, we could have used cgi, but we decided to do it the old-fashioned way. I think you will see a revival by these, you know, soon, because I'm getting tired of cgi well, I saw the the saddest commercial I've ever seen to date.
Speaker 1:It's this fucking. You can find it on youtube, I'm sure, but apple's I tried to post it today but they, they lock everything down on their shit. Uh, I saw it on linkedin. It's, uh, it's a an advertisement for apple's new ipad and they say it's the thinnest piece of equipment they've ever made. And what it starts off with it's this big platform and it's got musical equipment and tvs, and it starts with the turntable starts playing some share song, right, um, from like the the 60s, and it's has all this like pop culture, shit, all the shit we grew up with. And this ceiling starts coming down and fucking crushing it all Just crushes it, and they just watch shit breaking like an organ just fucking disintegrates and crushes everything, right, and it's just basically what they're saying is fuck you, right. This is how I looked at it. It's a big fuck you to baby boomers. Yeah, it's a big fuck you to baby boomers.
Speaker 1:Uh, yeah, it's a big fuck you to the first half of gen x. Yep, yeah, I'm starting to give the first half of gen x a little bit of credit. You know, boomers, don't give that up too easy. Yeah, because we did originate a lot of that shit that you guys did.
Speaker 2:Yeah that's true.
Speaker 1:We did originate those fucking ramps you know those bills and jumping barrels with fucking skateboarding started with yeah but you guys had, you did it and that's. I'm starting to realize it's 60, I'm starting to look and go. All right, I'll give the first half credit.
Speaker 2:I'll never give that whole generation but you did not give us huffy bikes. We're the huffy bike generation. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I was joking. Yeah, I was gonna say we had the huffy.
Speaker 1:That was the original, the original fucking off track. My friend bobby delco had of his father used to get him everything his father was kind of like a, kind of like a.
Speaker 1:He was a gambler and he was always dabbling in fucking stolen goods or whatever. You know, bo was a guy, he was a character, yeah. But my greatest friend ever, bobby Delacroix. He had a fucking bike with shock absorbers. Oh really, we're going back to like 78. I never saw that. No, it had literal shock absorbers on this bike. It's like what the fuck? Where'd you get that? He goes get that. Oh, my father got it for me. Of course he did.
Speaker 2:Of course he did give me a movie uh, it is always a james bond movie, so this year it was, for your eyes, only great theme song, great movie. Who did? The theme song for your eyes sheen easton sheen easton, that's it was a big year for her.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 380, 81, 82 kind of big years for her. Yeah, yeah, uh. The the first snake plissken movie, oh, escape from new york, which a lot of people are fucking trying to do today. They just can't afford it. They want to escape from new york. They just I'll move there, I'll move there.
Speaker 2:Oh wait, I don't have the money yeah I don't have the money to live in my hometown new york city's a shithole. No, it ain't man me and my son, tuesday, were walking around, didn't hear any gunfire. That's all the news don't want you to know. We respectfully disagree, but I've respectfully disagree, shit hole. I've been there, shit hole.
Speaker 1:You're not there.
Speaker 2:I've been there once it's all I needed to be Ooh once. That's all I needed to be, Fucking.
Speaker 1:Times Square. I told you we were there for three days. The fucking cleanest thing I saw in Times Square was a fucking pigeon.
Speaker 2:Did you get off the plane and go? Hey, pete.
Speaker 1:No, we took one of them fucking gypsy cabs. Actually the dude just kind of pops up. He's like, hey, you guys need a ride and I'm like I might have to kill this motherfucker.
Speaker 2:What year was it? What year was it?
Speaker 1:We went to see Morrissey in Madison Square Garden. My friend gave us a room at the W for free, right in the middle of Times Square. We were there for the weekend. It was probably 2018, 2017, 2018.
Speaker 2:I love the city, I love New York. I just do I like it. I actually miss the old city.
Speaker 1:Where it smells, though Even the taxi driver said this place in the summer smells.
Speaker 2:sure that smells I mean, I'm sure you had this in boston too, but I remember the 70s city or up into the 80s, when you, if you, god forbid, you had to use a pay phone.
Speaker 1:Good new york. All you had was piss in the. That was good new york, though I would have loved, I would have thrived yeah, me and my friends would have thrived in that new york in the 70s back then I talked.
Speaker 2:It was like very common. You would talk to people. They said, yeah, I got mugged here, I got mugged there. People were actually mugged. My dad took me to see the christmas show at radio city musical and we had some guy following us screaming at my dad. That hasn't happened to me since. Yeah, you know so but that's we were.
Speaker 1:We were tough kids, though, so we we. We were city kids, so we, we would have thrived.
Speaker 2:We thrived in boston and you know something leaded gas had a different smell it certainly did. So. That's the smell of the city that people now don't know. Like that smell. It was exhaust, but it made it vibrant.
Speaker 1:You actually got like hey, I'm in the city, you know, yeah yeah, all right, give me a movie.
Speaker 2:Uh, I'm gonna go with um, wait hard country, remember that movie? No, who was in it? Okay, it was. It had kim bassinger, jan michael vincent, it had Kim Basinger, jan Michael Vincent, daryl Hannah, and who directed it? David Green. I remember seeing it. I'm actually not going to read the whole thing to you, but it looks like it's a Western. But I just remember watching it on HBO. When my father first got HBO it was rated R, so it was a good sex scene and I was like whoa, but it was good. Just you know good sex scene and I was like whoa, but it was good, just you know Western whatever.
Speaker 1:Didn't see it, though this became I don't think it did well in the box office. Yeah, but it became quite a cult movie with a cult following that became bigger than they ever thought.
Speaker 2:The Evil dead came out in 1981 those, all those movies are my favorite, the original three.
Speaker 1:Those are bruce campbell does not get enough credit. No, no, he does not get enough credit and I love that guy man. He did a Western in like the mid-90s A.
Speaker 2:TV series.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was the Adventures of Something County, Something County Jr. It was a great fucking show man. Yeah, it was. It was Bruce Campbell. Just doesn't get enough Briscoe.
Speaker 2:County.
Speaker 1:Briscoe County. Jr yeah, the Adventures of Briscoe County. Jr Good call Good was Bruce Campbell just doesn't get enough. Briscoe County, briscoe County, Jr yeah, the Adventures of Briscoe County, jr Good call Good, call yeah.
Speaker 2:No, I'm all about Bruce Campbell. Yeah, man, Now I never saw a movie that made me laugh so hard at gore and horror. Because they made it funny. Oh, it was fucking.
Speaker 1:It's over the top.
Speaker 2:When he cuts his hand off. You know and everything but what killed me. And I have this thing with my son, he knows it and he agrees with me, Like when they remade Nightmare on Elm Street, it sucked, there was no humor. They remade Evil Dead. We watched it. They did a good job with the horror. They did a really good job with that, but there was no humor.
Speaker 1:And that was the problem. I think I watched it. If I did, it's unmemorable.
Speaker 2:But what I can't forget, and my son. I've asked him what this was for. At the end, when she's driving away from the cabin, the car passes and then the camera goes down and in the ground, bruce Campbell's there and he just opens his eyes and the movie's over. So I'm'm like all right was. So. This isn't a remake, this is a new set of characters and bruce campbell is there. He came back from and we can't figure it out, and they never made another one. So why the fuck?
Speaker 1:did they remember army of darkness? Remember he ended up going into like middle earth or something like that army of darkness? But maybe they had the idea of him coming back.
Speaker 2:he just appeared. Appeared in the ground, yeah, but it was dumb. It was like he's there for two seconds and then nothing has ever made.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah All right, give me one.
Speaker 2:Uh, one of the first movies that showed me sex. In a movie, the postman always rings twice. Jack Nicholson, and uh, oh, what's her name?
Speaker 1:Um Faye Dunaway, Jessica Jessica Lang. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Um, quite a movie for a 12 year old.
Speaker 1:Right, Right. Well, so was this one. Lots of, uh, lots of body parts in this one. Porky's the original the original. Uh teen, uh teen. You know kind of adventure Taught me what a glory hole is. Yeah, right, Porkies. Yeah, that was in 1954, a group of Florida high school guys try to help their buddy lose his virginity, which leads them to seek revenge on a sleazy nightclub owner and his redneck sheriff brother for harassing them. Yeah, Porkies. Yeah, that set it all off. Then came Fast Times and came all these other ones.
Speaker 2:Worst part is, didn't they make like four Porkies?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't have to see anything more than one, yeah yeah, I'm going with James Caan Thief. Thief, good movie movie. Yeah, very good movie. Yeah, good movie, thief. Uh, das boot, oh, das boot is a good movie that might be worth watching again too have to see it in german.
Speaker 2:I watched it with the overdubs. It didn't do it for me.
Speaker 1:No no yeah, a german u-boat stalks the frigid waters of north North Atlantic as its young crew experiences the sheer terror and claustrophobic life of a submariner in World War II. Yeah Nice, my cousin was on those fucking submarines in the Navy and he's like 6'3".
Speaker 2:Dude, I have claustrophobia and I went on an old submarine in houston from world war ii. I had to back out. I couldn't do it. Then, when I was up in new london with tom, we went on a more modern submarine. I made it through but I said I don't know how they do it, even the modern ones, I just don't know how they do it yeah, yeah, any movie uh. Absence of mal Malice, paul Newman and Sally Field. Okay, that won a lot of awards and it was. You know it was.
Speaker 1:It was a well done, sidney Pollack great director, yep, yep, sidney Pollack Stripes came out. Ah, that was a classic, that was Instant classic. Yeah, yeah, I don't even. We don't have to talk about that, it was just an instant classic. Uh, what do?
Speaker 2:you got Uh, treat Williams Prince of the city. That introduced me to treat Williams Prince of the city. Hmm, new York police officer Daniel Cielo is not a perfect cop when Rick Capolino I need blue here for these names from from the US Justice Department approaches him with a personal request to investigate police corruption. It's one of those movies. Very well done.
Speaker 1:The Cannonball Run came out in 1981. Great movie. Just a remake of it's a Mad Mad, mad, mad, mad, mad World.
Speaker 2:That's all it was. You know what was great the end, when they would show all the bloopers. Don DeLuise, don it was. You know what it was great the end, when they would show all the bloopers yeah, dom del louis, don't hit me again. Don't hit me again. Yeah, uh, okay, you picked a few of mine, so now I gotta really.
Speaker 1:Oh, here's one under the rainbow with carrie fisher.
Speaker 2:Remember that? No, it was about the name. I don't know if I saw it it's about the making of wizard of oz and for a lot of people it was when they found out there was a lot of shit going on when they made. That movie involved the dwarves, you know.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, um time bandits. Yeah, that was crazy. I think was there a Terry Gilliam movie. Yes, yeah, Sean Connery had a part in it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you know it's insane if terry gilliam did it. It's, it's fucking crazy. Yeah, yeah, I enjoyed it. It's fun movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yep, um decline of western civilization, the first of two you know that was a music documentary, right yeah, on the punk scene really good, it's really good if you've never seen it and you're, and you're listening, uh, the decline of the western civilization.
Speaker 2:Very, very good, uh, rock doc music documentary and the second one, the metal years, was a little more polished but it was. He had the guy from wasp.
Speaker 1:That was sad, where he's in the pool so drunk he can't talk and his mother's giving him the vodka and yeah he died not long after he just drank himself to death yeah, uh, this movie was one of those midnight movies like a theater would play it on a saturday night at midnight, which I don't know why theaters did that. They were just fucking asking for trouble. Uh, we used to go to them for a while, uh, when I was in high school. Hey, midnight movie at the danvers theater and that's like. It's like a 35 minute drive and usually we're fucking drunk driving, right, number one. Um, and someone was guaranteed you got a fucking theater full of teenagers. It's inevitable someone's getting in a fight, right? Yeah, I went to one one time. Dude lit a tire on fire and fucking rolled it down into the theater from the outside, fucking black smoke billowing everywhere. It was fucking chaos. Are you telling me New York's bad? This was fucking crazy man. I mean that tire. He must have poured gasoline on it because it just fucking.
Speaker 2:You must have smelled that for days.
Speaker 1:It was black smoke, it was just, and it was fucking filling and everyone's climbing. We're climbing over chairs. It was fucking chaos, man. I never forgot that. Yeah, but the movie was heavy metal, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Heavy metal. The first Cartoon Animated boobs I ever saw on my life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's right, yeah, yeah yeah, what do you got?
Speaker 2:My favorite Mad Max, mad Max 2. That was a fun one.
Speaker 1:This wasn't better than the first one, bro.
Speaker 2:The first one was good. I loved it. It had one of his best lines where he tries acting. He goes I'm having a peanut butter sandwich or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh.
Speaker 1:but now, you didn't really talk much in that movie, yeah, but two had, just for the action okay, yeah, yeah, I'll give it to you.
Speaker 2:It was good, it was good there was a better story with the first one, for sure um, the infamous, uh, uh, this.
Speaker 1:this is when it all came out, mommy dearest. The book came out, but out. But then the movie came out. Oh, the movie was great. So Joan Crawford fucking hit her kid with the coat hanger. You know how many of us got hit with the fucking coat hanger when we were kids? Fuck, yeah, I mean, I know I wasn't the only one. I got hit with the fucking Hot Wheel track coat hanger, fucking hairbrush, you name it.
Speaker 2:And I turned out normal. What did I get hit with? Oh, ask my sisters, they'll tell you what I got. My sisters were very creative, just not all of them. Allison was already out of house, so okay, so we're leaving it on stacy. Yeah, um movie, okay, the first r-rated movie I saw. My sister took me to see Outland with Sean Connery, which is basically High Noon set in space. It's a great movie.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, are they selling?
Speaker 2:drugs on the space station.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, patty Hossie says everything from A to Z. That's right, we got hit with everything from a to z. Yeah, that's it. Uh, friday, the 13th, part two.
Speaker 2:All right, came out it was it was.
Speaker 1:It got a fairly good reception. It was everybody, of course, because one was such a huge hit. Yeah, uh, but then they got into, like they did with jaws the 3d thing. Yeah, friday the 13th, part 3d. Just like they did jaws 3d yeah, yeah, I remember watching the theater and like the fucking it was when 3d you had to wear the red and green right on one lens red, the other lens green, and like it would be filmed specifically for 3d effects, like jason would turn around and look at you and throw a fucking machete and you see it coming at you. It's like why, why would what does that have to do with the movie?
Speaker 2:or no, even for the effect, even like there was a scene I remember where, like they're just hanging out in the cabin it wasn't a scary part and she goes do you want a soda?
Speaker 1:and she puts her hand right into the camera you know, it pushes it right in your face and it never.
Speaker 2:I never saw that style 3d. I never saw it work. I go to the theater it just never worked right you know, maybe it's my eyes but the first time I saw um avatar and I went whoa. That was like now 3d has launched that was amazing, you know yeah what do you got? Uh, I'm gonna go with a schmaltzy one on golden pond.
Speaker 1:I did like yeah you know it was a good movie. It was a good movie. I mean, you had these two, you know legendary actors and, uh, you know it sucked that fucking.
Speaker 2:She was in it though the chain was, here we go, I guess fucking pain in the ass, but I had to have her as his daughter. You know, yeah, yeah, no yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Um. Another, uh, another pretty good uh werewolf me movie came out in 81, the howling yeah, d wallace, yeah, except at the end they fucking ruined it at the end. I don't remember the end, when the fucking newscaster she's on the, she's on live and she had gotten fucking scratched and she didn't tell anybody and right on the scene, right on the set, she starts turning into a fucking werewolf and she doesn't leave her, oh yeah and then all of a sudden they cut to it and she's the prettiest fucking werewolf.
Speaker 1:Like the hair is fucking pulled back. Like you know, like the song says, her hair was perfect.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, no, that ruined it that ruined it, and she howls like like, not like an animal, Right you?
Speaker 2:know what I thought? I thought maybe like, and I saw that young and I said that means that werewolves are really going to take over. Like they don't look scary, so everyone's going to become a werewolf. Like it won't be.
Speaker 1:like you know, it'll be accepted you know, dude, when I was a kid I had this fucking giant hedge in the front, right up the front of my house, right on the wall, the walkway, right on the right side of the walkway, and it was big. It was like fucking 15 feet tall and it was kind of, you know, it wasn't really well kept but in it was a little alcove where you could kind of sit there in the shade sometimes. But I'd come home at night and I was a kid like 12 or you know, 11 and fucking that I always werewolf was the fucking was the monster that scared me more than anything. Dracula, fuck him. Frankenstein, fuck the werewolf was always the monster that scared the fuck out of me here, because you could run damn fast oh, it was just fucking.
Speaker 1:The werewolf would just creep me the fuck out. When I was a kid and I always thought there was a werewolf fucking waiting for me in there. I, I used to. I used to get to the front of the yard and I'd be like Mom, mom and my mother would have to come out on the front porch and turn the light on because we'd have to save electricity. Yeah, yeah and fucking. I'd run up the stairs to my mom. I'd run up the walk, the pathway up to my mom.
Speaker 2:Fighter flight syndrome. You scared the shit. Yeah, fucking werewolf man. I used to have dreams that I'd wake up at night and I'm coming downstairs and the ground floor is all foggy. In there I'd see a werewolf laying on the couch breathing, and I remember I'd run out the front door down the street knowing it was coming after me, and my whole neighborhood was foggy.
Speaker 1:I had one of those dreams. I had a night terror that I'll never forget, back in like 92, 91. I'll never forget it. It was a fucking werewolf was chasing me through this house that was on the next street over from where I lived. It was one of those dark houses and this motherfucker was chasing me through that whole fucking house. Right, I woke up literally screaming, like my wife had to fucking calm me down yeah that night terror dude I had that, and it was a fucking werewolf man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, fucking werewolves yep, god damn it. I mean, vampires are my favorite, but werewolves scare me the most vampires are gay, yeah, gay, yeah, they are they are They'll suck anything.
Speaker 1:Dracula was fucking cool, but in the end he was gay. Uh, let's see. Uh, big head Todd the wet sprockets is. Good night, gentlemen. Scott, it is going to be okay. Mark, don't take any shit. Fuck you Big head.
Speaker 2:Thanks.
Speaker 1:Todd, yeah, thanks, todd. Yeah, look at this. Yeah, pushing my hair back, I'm not taking anything. Keyboard, tough guy. Cell phone tough guy. Yeah, fucking big head, todd. It's because you lift 400 pounds. I ain't afraid of you, motherfucker dude's like he's like 55 benches, like 400 pounds. I don't give a shit give me a movie.
Speaker 2:All right, I don't remember the plot, I just remember again. I saw it on cable and else I had a little weird stuff the fun house. Do you remember that movie? Horror movie uh, yeah, she goes to. It's about a carnival. Yeah, girl goes to a carnival. I just remember it did freak me out. I was little, you know it was creepy. Anything with clowns and the carnival is this creepy stuff right? Right yeah, but I don't remember the story. But this is bringing back memories for me well, follow that up with halloween.
Speaker 2:2 came out in 81, yeah pretty good, pretty good, I pretty good. Yeah, you know, halloween one was.
Speaker 1:Pretty good. Yeah, you know Halloween 1 was great, but I'd still say that Rob Zombie's Halloween 1 was the Jimi Hendrix all along the Watchtower version of Halloween, because he fucking did a great job. He did. He did a great job. The part two was fucking out there, though it made no fucking sense. I'm ambivalent on him because he's so either fucking fire hot or ice cold.
Speaker 2:And sometimes I say why does he remake these movies? But he's doing it as a tribute, I know that. So I used to get mad Like all right, Because, remember, at the same time there were terrible remakes of Nightmare on Elm Street yeah yeah. So I'm like why is Rob Zombie redoing it? Then I thought about it. He is paying tribute to the movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the Munsters was horrible, that whole thing that he did. It was on Netflix. I couldn't watch it. I didn't see that it had a lot of potential. I'd say it was the equivalent of Tim Burton's Dark Shadows. I think he really didn't do much justice and you know what probably happened.
Speaker 2:He probably had a good idea, and the director, the producers- built an exact replica of that house, really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, built an exact replica of that house for the movie. Yeah, all right, let's get a couple more.
Speaker 2:All right, hold on, we're over 90 minutes. Yeah, I'm a. I just lost my webpage, my internet, one 90 minutes. Yeah, I just lost my webpage, my internet. There's contractors working downstairs, yes, at this time of night, making the apartment ready for new tenants, and my internet flickered, so hopefully.
Speaker 1:Caveman Caveman or Ringo right, Ringo was in that right Caca Shit.
Speaker 2:That's the one line I remember from that movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:You know what I saw? An al pacino movie. All right, hold on a second. No, it's not. It's called out, but it's not right they actually did a movie the night.
Speaker 1:The lights went out in georgia.
Speaker 2:Really yeah, yeah oh, here it was uh if it was based on that the song. But yeah, maybe uh neighbors came out in 1981 with john belushi.
Speaker 1:That was a weird movie yeah, that was, that was weird, that was a little bizarre. Yeah, yeah, uh, let me see you had graduation day and then hell night.
Speaker 2:Hell night came out that year, uh, you had uh john belushi's last movie, Continental Divide, which he started to get serious with his acting.
Speaker 1:This was one of those parody movies called Saturday the 14th.
Speaker 2:Yeah, remember that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Family inherits an old mansion which houses the dangerous Book of Evil, like Book of the Dead. History of the World. Part 1 came yep, yep and uh, let's finish it up with. Let me see, uh, zoro the gay blade. Yeah, uh, let's get one more.
Speaker 2:Oh, Kung Fu Zombie came out. Kung Fu Zombie Okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'll match that with Enter the Ninja, and then we're on to this Day in Music. How's that?
Speaker 2:Oh, Endless Love came out in 1981. Ah, big hit for Lionel.
Speaker 1:Richie and cancel, get out of here. All right, let me see this day of music, uh 2020. Little richard died of bone cancer at the age of 87. He had a good life man yeah, in a good life and he had that nice little rebirth in the in the 80s you know it's kind of carried him into the rest. Um, when he was flamboyant he didn't give a shit at that point. Shut up.
Speaker 2:He used to tell you, shut up you've seen hell, hell, rock and roll, right, yeah, I like when they interview him and um, oh, another big guy about talking about chuck berry and little richard. In his voice you can hear like he's a little jealous, like you know, that's my competition, but he's also talking about the old music business, how they all got ripped off, you know, yeah, but he looked good, he looked fabulous.
Speaker 1:Ah, let's see. On this day in 2013, david Bowie's latest video, which starred Gary Oldman and Marian Cotillard, was temporarily pulled from YouTube over its graphic content. The next day was the name of the song featured heavy religious imagery, including Cotillard bleeding from stigmata marks. The video sees Bowie performing in a basement bar surrounded by religious figures, while Oldman, dressed as a priest, punches a beggar before dancing with a prostitute Played by Oscar winner Caudillard Caudillard. Whatever. Youtube admitted making the wrong call and removing the video and reinstated it with an adult content warning. Let's see On this day in 2003, the Eagles trimmed to a four-man lineup Glenn Frey, don Henley, joe Walsh, timothy B Schmidt after parting ways with Don Felder. On this day in 1998, jimmy Page appears on US TV's Saturday Night Live with Sean Puffy Coates.
Speaker 2:I remember this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I remember that Diddy's in trouble and performed Come With Me from the Godzilla movie soundtrack oh boy, and Jimmy Page had a Well, it sampled Cashman, that's what it was. I liked it. I liked it, nobody liked it.
Speaker 2:I thought it was good.
Speaker 1:On this day in 1992, bruce Springsteen made his North American network television debut on Saturday Night Live with host Tom Hanks. Hmm, north American network television debut on Saturday Night Live with host Tom Hanks. He never did anything before that. I don't know. I'm surprised. 92? North American network television debut, wow.
Speaker 2:Let's see. He had a four-hour show. Nobody could get him on.
Speaker 1:On this day in 1978, fee Wable Wable of the twos broke a leg falling from the stage at the Hammersmith Odeon in London whilst wielding a chainsaw during the band's set. See, accidents will happen. He was probably wearing those fucking, because he comes out of this character quay lewd when they do yeah, white punks on dope, which he probably has. Probably they're like 18 inch fucking uh platform shoes. It's wild. Yeah, it's fucking insane. Uh, let me see. On this day in 1974, bonnie rate played two shows at harvard square theater in cambridge, massachusetts. Opening act act was Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band. Let me see. And that's when Rolling Stone critic John Landau saw Springsteen and wrote as legend has it, I have seen rock and roll's future and his name is Bruce Springsteen. Yeah, let me see. On this day in 1973, mick jagger added 150 000 of his own money to the 350 000 by the rolling stones january benefit concert for victims of the nicaraguan earthquake. Uh, let me see.
Speaker 1:On this day in 1969, beatles guitarist george harrison experiment harrison's experimental album Electronic Sound was released on Zappel Records Zappel Jesus. On this day in 1966, the Doors played at the Whiskey A Go-Go in West Hollywood, california, auditioning for the position as the venue's house band. On this day in 1965, during a UK tour, bob Dylan played the first of two sold-out nights at London's Royal Albert Hall. All four members of the Beatles were in the audience. The poster advertised. On this day in 1964, chuck Berry began his first ever UK tour at the Astoria Theatre in London, supported by the Animals, the Swinging Blue Jeans, kyle Denver and the Nashville Teens. On this day in 1964, louis Armstrong went to number one on the US singles charts with Hello Dolly. Yes, hello Dolly. That was pretty good for right in the moment. Yeah, pretty good now.
Speaker 2:I have to. Where's the golf?
Speaker 1:ball, born on this day. Let's see Paul McGuinn, english musician, paul Giggs McGuinn, one of the four founding members of Oasis. He was the group's bass player from 91 to 99. Let me see, on this day, dave Gahan, singer-songwriter of Depeche Mode, born in 62. Let me see Mark Duncan no, john Edwards from Status Qu, from status quo. Tim peterson, basis from the rock band cheap trick uh, he was born in this day in 1950. Born in this day in 1949. Billy joel uh, let's see, coming up on the end here doesn't seem like anybody of any significance who won the Eurovision?
Speaker 1:yeah, that's only when we do this day of music, and that's it my friend, we're done done in an hour and 49 minutes. Even without Lou we can't nah movies, though we got a little really deep into the movies.
Speaker 2:Lou would have had some pseudo porn movies from 1981 he would have been throwing them in there.
Speaker 1:Alright, my friend, as I always say, I appreciate your time, I appreciate your knowledge, but, most of all, I truly appreciate your friendship, thank you for your time.
Speaker 1:I always appreciate it and everybody thank you for watching. Thank you for listening. If you like it, share it if you didn't like it. And everybody thank you for watching. Thank you for listening. If you like it, share it If you didn't like it. Well, thanks for watching and listening for one hour and 50 minutes. We'll be back next Tuesday. Let's see Patty Yosses' great show. Scott and Mark, thanks for all the info.
Speaker 2:Sweet dreams.
Speaker 1:Sleep tight, you too, patty. Thank you.
Speaker 2:By the way, Boston is losing to Cleveland right now. Oh okay, 74 to 86, but it's only the third, so they can catch up. Nobody goes undefeated.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and as my thank you for winning the engine that runs this machine, yada, yada, yada, and as I always say, doing the show for you, to quote my favorite artist, morrissey, the pleasure, the privilege is mine and we will be back next Thursday with Lou. And until then, have a great evening, bye.