Milk Crates and Turntables. A Music Discussion Podcast
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Milk Crates and Turntables. A Music Discussion Podcast
Ep. 151 - Revisiting The Year 1989 In Music And The Movies Of 1984
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Get ready for a 45 Poker showdown that will leave you laughing out loud. We celebrate a shift in wine preferences from Chardonnay to Sauvignon Blanc and dive into our weekly poker game where each of us draws three 45s to compare hits. Whether you're rooting for Andy Gibb, Stevie Wonder, or Vicky Lawrence, the friendly competition and brotherly banter create an engaging and nostalgic atmosphere. And as we reminisce about the rise and fall of Bud Light through the lens of 1989's significant musical and cultural events, you'll find yourself reflecting on corporate controversies and brand loyalty in today's media landscape.
We'll take you on a nostalgic trip through the careers of the iconic Brat Pack, the evolution of 60s and 50s music, and the unforgettable moments from the late '80s. From the brilliance of John Hughes' films to the Moscow Music Peace Festival and Madonna's provocative MTV Awards performance, our discussion is filled with humor, personal preferences, and candid opinions. Plus, we'll explore the complexities of brand loyalty and consumer behavior, using beer preferences and celebrity endorsements to draw intriguing parallels. So tune in, laugh with us, and reconnect with the music and movies that defined an era.
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Chaotic Podcast Banter and Shenanigans
Speaker 1The the .
Speaker 2Yeah , welcome back my friends to the show that never ends .
Speaker 2I'm so glad you could attend . Come inside , come inside . I fucking intro got all . It's still uploading this fucking you know the fuck . Sometimes you just can't fucking win , right ? So let me put on some , put on some lounge music . Let's see if that fucking works . Okay , here we go . There you go . Okay , here we go , there you go . Okay , now I feel better . Welcome to the podcast . You know the name , I'm not going to say it .
Speaker 2We're streaming live right now over Facebook X , youtube , twitch , dlive , yada , yada yada . Thank you , amanda , for that , not introduction , because it's still loading and I don't know what the fuck's wrong with that . Let's see what's in the chat . Patty , yeah , hi , patty , yeah , how are you doing ? Let's get the chat thing over here . Get that right there . Here we go . Now we'll be able to see people chat . Yeah , yeah , and I said in the intro I actually said in the intro that we're going to Too soon , too soon , todd Big Head , todd the Wet Sprocket , too soon .
Speaker 2My intro was we're going to be talking about the year 1989 , but then Lou got a little confused because I was going to talk about the movies of 1984 . And Lou couldn't understand that concept and he said something about quitting and he's going to go surfing , and that was that . And then Mark piped in with something about he wants to dress like Kip Winger or he loves Kip Winger and he's going to winger it . And I don't know what the fuck that was all about , but it was fucking hectic getting into this . So I'm just going to say you know , and here he is .
Speaker 3Hey there Heather . Oh , hey there hather . Who there oh ?
Speaker 2what's up , buddy ?
Speaker 3hey man , glad to be here , it's always fun .
Speaker 2Let's bring that other guy on both of those , but it both of those , both of those sounds like you're sick first of all , mark , get out of my spot , then get out of Lou's spot get back where you belong in the top right corner you know , what .
Speaker 4That's it .
Speaker 2You know what yeah right , this is gonna be a great fucking show , I can tell you right off the bat . I said I can wing you .
Speaker 4right off the bat I said I can wing it . I didn't say I was going to be Kip Winger .
Speaker 2You said something about she's only 17 and I want to be Kip Winger and heading for a heartbreak .
Speaker 1I look at these muscles .
Speaker 2You know what I'm going to tell you . I actually like those two songs . They're good . I wing of like she's Only 17 and Heading for a Heartbreak . I don't know . They were good songs . They're good songs . A good song is a good song . Yeah , a good song is a good song .
Speaker 4So did the public see that ? Did your listeners see that gelatinous something , cells moving around the screen with move music ?
Speaker 2Yeah , I had to kip winger it because my fucking intro is it's still loading . I was like what the hell ?
Speaker 4I thought you had like a new sponsor , a sperm donor bank or something I think scott's wearing his crystal today .
Speaker 3I'm wearing my crystal today . It was a very new age beginning there , oh , yeah , I'm looking through my third eye .
Speaker 2There we go and it's blind . So look at this , the big head Todd to its rockets whipping it up tonight he's like boom , boom , boom , boom , boom . Then you got Robert Kirkman coming in here .
Speaker 5I don't go to DC .
Speaker 2So there's a bunch of guys from the Philippines . They all go to like . They have their own reunion , right , and Bob Kirkman's part of that one . He goes to the like . It's just a different group of guys mixed in with the same guys that some of them that come to my house for the reunion every year , and , uh , I just don't choose to go with that group . I just don't . I , I don't , I don't really have a lot in common with them .
Speaker 2I don't care if they hear this , I just don't I mean I , I only worked with a few of them and the rest I don't know . So I mean , okay , we have that . We were all in the Philippines , but I'm like I'm not going to go to it . I went to one and I only talked to the people that I usually hang out with at my reunion .
Speaker 3Like , so your tribe .
Speaker 2That's your answer , bob Kirkman . I don't care , I'm fucking . Like I said on Facebook recently , I'm fucking 60 years old . I don't care , I'm fucking like I said on facebook recently I'm fucking 60 years old , I don't give a fuck . I can lose a lot of friends along the way and still have a lot of friends . I've really I've done a good job .
Speaker 2It wouldn't hurt me if people like you hurt my feelings . You don't like me ? No , it's not , I don't like you , just don't want to be around you . Sometimes it doesn't matter . More people should just say that . I hear that all the time from people .
Speaker 1I know you just don't want to be around you mark we do this pair of people's feelings oh yeah but they also say mark , mark , it's , me it's me yeah , it's not you , it's
Speaker 4me , I know it's me , I know it's me okay , okay .
Speaker 2So we have one shining light , one bright ray in this little group of chat , and it's Patty Yossi , right . And then even she jumps in and says it looked like a bunch of butts floating around the screen . Even she's jumping in . And then there's my brother from the Bush song . See my asshole brother right . Everything's Zen . I thought this was that show about politics , winthrop well , yeah , that's dead .
Speaker 2That that's absolutely . That's actually dead . It's not even a facebook group anymore . When I left that that winthrop votes , it died like the dude couldn't handle it he didn't know how to do anything .
Speaker 4Do any show . It's hard , it's a lot of work it's not .
Speaker 2You just gotta fucking do you , put your time in and understand it and you'll put out a good product . Work your way through it . Didn't want to do it , so that's dead . I went out on top . I don't know . Let me see Todd Sockman . Big head Todd , what's rocking ? You hurt my feelings weekly . Nah well , as my mom used to say , a lot tough shit , you'd say that a lot , mom , this tough shit . Okay , uh , how's things going on ? Uh , on , uh , um , the other show the music show that other show .
Speaker 3Things are going good . Yeah , we had a good show last time . What'd you talk about ? We , uh , we do a lot of uh random . You know the random trivia stuff .
Speaker 2Um perry random relish , random relish . Yeah , those are the best shows .
Speaker 3Yeah , they're fun and I've heard the things where it's . It's if you're not watching it , if you're just listening , you may not get it , but you know , puts a picture of like a young child that's a musician . As a child we try to guess who the one was . But do you remember the dr demento show ? You put up that .
Speaker 2Put up that video yeah of course everybody in our generation heard of it . No , not every . I didn't really listen to it I , I didn't either .
Speaker 3I had a couple friends that were always raving about it . But um , we talked about that for for some length and , you know , found out a lot about some novelty songs . It was fun .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , hold on one second here .
Speaker 1My sister says hi , hi , ellen , she did , she talked about you .
Speaker 2Yeah , I'm going to see something . Let's see .
Speaker 3We always mention Scott .
Speaker 2Yeah , let's , they talked about me .
Speaker 4Yeah , me and Lou are not supposed to mention . Joyster Colt anymore .
Speaker 3That's oyster colt anymore , that's bullshit bullshit . And what's the other one ? Uh , I dare to mention zebra .
Speaker 4Yeah , zebra , I'm suspended . I'm not on the show next week . Oh really , yeah , stop that so penalty , but I just want a night off and I want we don't have a penalty .
Speaker 3We can't afford a penalty box yeah , that's right , our package didn't come with a penalty box hold on , hold on a second .
Speaker 2Yes , you got something to fucking say . You got something to say yeah , I said they talked about your ass when they , when you wasn't on the camera you gotta , you gotta , take the penis out of your mouth when you talk , and I've told you this a hundred times . What ?
Speaker 5did you just say here we go .
Speaker 2I said they talked about you because you wasn't on camera . You got bed bugs .
Speaker 5Did you just say I got bed bugs ?
Speaker 2I'm gonna , I'm gonna , I'm gonna , I'm gonna spit it out .
Speaker 5Yeah , I said they talked about you because you wasn't on the show .
Speaker 2Hey , how many toasted raviolis do you think you've eaten in your lifetime ?
Speaker 5Do you know what that said ?
Speaker 2I asked you a question . Huh , I asked you a question , did you ?
Speaker 1hear what I said .
Speaker 2I didn't hear you no , Because you've got to shut up when other people are talking . How many toasted raviolis ? See ? There you go again . This is why you don't fucking hear people and you still do it . You still do it . I'm asking you a question . I'm asking you a question how many toasted raviolis do you think you've eaten in your lifetime ?
Speaker 5Toasted raviolis . This is Mike .
Speaker 2No , get the fuck , Paul .
Speaker 5No , I'm not talking to you , I'm talking to Kirkman .
Speaker 2I'm talking to Kirkman . Fuck , I'm not talking to you . I'm talking to Kirkman . I'm talking to Kirkman .
Speaker 5I say he's eating 300 last night before I left , I probably ate about 15 toasted radishes it's okay , okay .
Speaker 2So what pot in my ?
Speaker 5lifetime . It's a St Louis staple you don't have .
Speaker 2Listen , listen , listen , just answer . Give me a fucking number 172 . Oh no , you've done that in a week . What do you mean ? A lifetime ?
Speaker 5Well then , I had to fucking , you know , make sure I didn't get a nub when Flynn was around .
Speaker 2So in your lifetime you've only eaten 172 toasted raviolis .
Speaker 5Well , I think I lied there because I had 15 of them last time .
Speaker 2Yeah , hello , I just pointed that out to you there . Numbskull , let me think Probably . This is why I don't go on these reunions , by the way . This is one of the reasons . All right , it's Robert then .
Speaker 5We've been drinking and you're going to ask these questions .
Speaker 2A million , do you ? Since , robert , we've been drinking , you're gonna ask these questions . A million , do you think you've eaten a million toasted raviolis ? No , how about 400,000 ?
Speaker 5and how many of the people know what a toasted ravioli ?
Speaker 2I want to know it's toasted , okay , it's deep fried , everyone knows it .
Speaker 3Yeah , do you think over 100,000 ?
Speaker 2whatever said he never heard of it .
Speaker 5that was Mark , do you think ? Over 100,000 . Whatever Was that , luja said he'd never heard of it . I mean that was .
Speaker 2Mark , that was Mark . Don't get those two confused . They'll start fighting with each other .
Speaker 5I had to turn my video off to answer your damn phone .
Speaker 2So do you think you've eaten over 250,000 toasted raviolis ?
Speaker 5No .
Speaker 2No , I think you have . No , I'm saying you look like you ate about 1,000 in the last year .
Speaker 5I really didn't get into toasted raviolis until after I got back from the service and had moved up to St Louis All right , I got to go .
Speaker 2I just hung up on him .
Speaker 3This is what I mean . So , like you can't have a , normal conversation .
Speaker 2He goes in a hundred different directions hosted ravioli .
Speaker 4I gotta try that sometime you can eat them without sauce too .
Speaker 3You can eat them all by itself yeah of course yeah I'm sure yeah , yeah .
45 Poker Showdown
Speaker 2Well , my brother's going after , going after smitty tonight . Why ?
Speaker 3is he being such a ?
Speaker 2fucking asshole it's okay , trying to be , by the way , fuck dude first time since I started podcasting .
Speaker 3I'm not having a chardonnay , I'm having a sauvignon blanc there you go , mark , mark , there you go , mark , mark , there you go , mark . What You've done me so proud .
Speaker 2Really , Aw Lou puts his hand over his heart .
Speaker 3My hand is on my heart . What Lou ? No , check out Mark drinking the Sauvignon Blanc . Now . What Lou ?
Speaker 4It's Yellowtail Sauvignon Blanc .
Speaker 3All right , go Hello .
Speaker 2It's my ringtone , somebody's calling me . Oh , he's trying to call me back , so I'm going to shut this off . It's a calling show it's a calling show and I'm not taking his call Nope Hanging up on him , that's it . Hanging up on him , cutting the speaker off , cutting it off , that's it , so he can't call back . I'm just going to shut off the Bluetooth . There you go , and it won't come through anymore . Hey , you know what ? Si , it's time for 45 Poker .
Speaker 1Oh shit .
Speaker 4I got to get mine out .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 4Don't worry , you got plenty of time .
Speaker 2You got plenty of time . All right , let's start with Lou . This week , here we go 45 poker I'm going to pull out . Each of us are going to get three 45s , and the one with the best three songs combination is this week's champ . So we're going to start with Lou . Lou got his notebook out . He got his pen . He's going to write down . He's very efficient .
Speaker 3Lou is a very efficient person Right off the bat right off the bat , right off the bat .
Speaker 2I can't even lou , I can't even say what the record company is . It's andy gibb . Ah , andy gibb , it's one of those picture . Uh , I just want to be your . Everything big hit big hit yeah diddly , diddly , diddly some people might not like the song but the song was a hit , so big hit .
Speaker 3If you look at chart placement on that , I bet you that was a number one big head , todd woods , you can't ignore me .
Speaker 2No , because you keep popping up on our screen . See how I said ours . See how I said ours .
Speaker 1Yeah exactly .
Speaker 2Hey , do you guys know how many episodes you've actually been on ? No , we got a little too up .
Speaker 3It's been over a year . Yeah .
Speaker 1I'm thinking you guys might get to the point you're gonna surpass .
Speaker 2Uh , uh , that other guy that used to be on the show oh , yeah , jack hack hack is that his name ? Oh , mac yeah all right , here we go . This is mine . It's from uh vaughn stock , ink black , what the fuck ?
Speaker 3all right you don't sound happy . I think he froze , oh , he froze . Oh shit , that means I big hit don't you worry , I win now . Huh , are you back ? You throw what happened you froze up .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , here we go . It's gonna be one of those shows started right from the beginning . Stevie wonder , don't you worry about a thing ? Nice song yeah , yeah , I'm in the lead . Yep , that's stevie over andy any day are you sure ?
Speaker 4all here we ?
Speaker 2go . This is Mark . It's a red label . It's a red label . It's Bell Records .
Speaker 3Bell .
Speaker 2Records . Oh , you know what this is starting off , vicky Lawrence . That's the night that the lights went out in Georgia .
Speaker 3Big hit . I think I'm in third place , though I think you're in third place . Big stevie wonder .
Speaker 2I'm comfortable there , stevie wonder's gotta still be in the lead there .
Speaker 3Yeah , that was yeah yeah , yeah , yeah , all right here we go lou back to lou , feeling lucky all right from 20th century .
Speaker 2No united United Artists UA . Yeah , United Artists , but the sleeve says 20th century United Artists . Give me someone that was on United Artists records .
Speaker 3I wouldn't know . I want something like movie soundtracks or something .
Speaker 4I know Like .
Speaker 3Beatles Like Hard Day's Night or something .
Speaker 2Paul .
Speaker 3Anka , paul Anka .
Speaker 2Let Me Get to Know you . Or One man Woman , One Woman man .
Speaker 4Oh , look at this .
Speaker 3I'll take the A side .
Speaker 4I'm going to just write shit like I do ?
Speaker 2I'll take the A side . I don't even know which one it is .
Speaker 3All right , here we go . Here's my number two , Scott . What was the first song ?
Speaker 2It was Let Me Get to Know you . Or One man Woman , one Woman man . Yeah , here we go . All right , this is mine , and it's red , it's red , it's bell .
Speaker 3no no , no , it's from sussex . Sussex records suck it British , anybody ? You know , lou , nope , david Essex was on Sussex uh , that's a New . Jersey County joke . That's a New Jersey County joke . That's a New Jersey County joke , but I'm bummed .
Speaker 2So this had a message on it , this , this Patty sent me these and it finally it came around . I just caught the message on this right and she wrote it on the sleeve in its gallery oh , it's so nice to be , yeah , but this on this side she said this one is for dave phillips , king of the 45s , ginger haired man .
Speaker 1I can't believe I just saw that that's great . Look at that she . She put some time into that yeah , she pulled it out today .
Speaker 2But the other side is it's so nice to be with you . I love all the things you say and do that was a considerable hit that's one of those bands that sound like neil diamond .
Speaker 3I always thought that was neil diamond it's a good , good call yeah mark's yawning already what the hell .
Speaker 4Oh , I had a rough day . I had a rough day give me a break .
Speaker 2I had a rough day .
Speaker 4I'm an army . Just give me a break .
Speaker 2All right , all right , here we go , here we go . Atlantic records mark atlantic records . Oh , I'm in the lead , let's open oh well , let's see , let's see , it's got that little funky 70s cover . Oh wow . So this is a long version and a short version . We've had this one Well , we've had them all before the Tramps , that's where the happy people go Down at the disco .
Speaker 3Oh yeah , that's where the happy people go Happy people go yeah yeah , it's no Disco Inferno , that yeah yeah , it's no Disco Inferno , that's for sure .
Speaker 2It's no Disco Inferno , that's for damn sure . That's right , that's right .
Speaker 4All right , mark . All right , here we go , come on .
Speaker 1Let's just shut it .
Speaker 2Just shut Lou down right now and I win . That's all there is to it .
Speaker 4That's all there is to it . Okay , here's Lou .
Speaker 2Uh-oh .
Speaker 4It's on RCA Records .
Speaker 2Right .
Speaker 4And it's the Guess who , and they put the question mark after their name . I didn't know they did that .
Speaker 3The question mark and the Mysterians .
Speaker 4Yeah .
Speaker 3So it's .
Speaker 4These Eyes .
Speaker 3Nice yeah , okay All right , that puts them , I think the Paul .
Speaker 2Anka kind of killed you though .
Speaker 3Paul .
Speaker 2Anka , kind of fucked you there .
Speaker 3Yeah , but well , mark gets something worse than happy people by the trams .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 3Paul Anka , Come on .
Speaker 2Mark Set me up for the sweep . Come on , I've won every round so far .
Speaker 4Ooh , you know the artist . When I hold it up , it's Rod Stewart . Rod Stewart , yeah , some guys have all the luck . Some guys have all the luck Moderate hit , moderate hit .
Speaker 2Oh , you know what the B-side was .
Speaker 3That was pretty considerable , wasn't it ?
Speaker 2It was yeah .
Speaker 4You know what the B-side was .
Speaker 1I was only joking .
Speaker 4An old song Remember that Wow . Footloose and Fancy Free .
Speaker 1Yeah , wow .
Speaker 2Okay , there you go , I win , but let's see , it's a battle for second place . It's a battle . I think Mark's in second right now . With Night , the Lights Went Out in Georgia and that's where the happy people go .
Speaker 3Loose started off kind of good , but paul anka , I mean it wasn't .
Speaker 4It wasn't the recording of him threatening his manager . That's a way . That's a winner . I'm out of it , guys . Lori records either daddy rolling in your arms , or abraham martin and john dude that abraham martin .
Speaker 3You , you got in second place man abraham martin and john .
Speaker 2Dude that abraham martin , you , you got in second place man abraham martin and john .
Speaker 3Has anybody seen my old friend ? Yeah that .
Speaker 2That was it .
Speaker 3That was a hit you don't know , mark , you're not that , you're not that , you're 55 years old man I'm . Don't say that , don't say that midlife chris is my I'm feeling it yeah , live it , buddy , live it own it , love it that's it , live it , own it , love it .
Speaker 4well , at this I'm starting not to give a shit , I'm just starting to do it .
Speaker 2Like I said , when you turn 60 , you're going to say I don't give a fuck .
Speaker 3I don't care , I don't give a flying fuck , I don't care .
Speaker 4Welcome to the alpha male , say what you want .
Speaker 2Like Ricky Gervais says , you know when he did the award show , he goes , I don't care , I don't care , I'll say whatever I want , I don't care .
Speaker 3What are you going to do ? You notice , like a lot of older celebrities , they start to speak out more .
Speaker 2Seinfeld has been like scorched earth .
Speaker 1Yeah , he just lit it on fire recently .
Speaker 2Yeah , he did yeah .
Speaker 3But these comedians have a right to say that .
Speaker 2They have a right to say that I was listening on npr . It's always been comedy , has always been edgy yeah , what would lindy ?
Speaker 3what would lindy ? Bruce ?
Speaker 4lindy bruce was not afraid lindy bruce was not afraid it wasn't that long ago that lindy bruce was arrested for cursing yeah , profanity sm Smut . Yeah , red Fox His old records .
Speaker 3I have them , even Eddie Murphy from the 80s . I mean , come on .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , all right , here we go , let's talk about 1989 .
Speaker 3Woo-hoo Two years out of high school , january 14 , 89 .
Rise and Fall of Bud Light
Speaker 3What year you ?
Speaker 2graduating .
Speaker 4What were you in ? I was two years out of high school in 1990 .
Speaker 5Ah , okay .
Speaker 4All right , my glorious career in CPI .
Speaker 2I was in my second year in oh 87 to yeah , my second year in the Philippines . Yeah , january 14th 1989 , paul McCartney releases Back in the USSR right , exclusively in the USSR . That's where it got released , yeah , but bootleg copies sell for as much as $1,000 in the United States . Now , I won't buy it . You can keep your money .
Speaker 4No album's worth $1,000 , in my opinion , no , especially in the age of streaming , come on .
Speaker 2Yeah To a collector . It's always worth what someone wants to pay for it right . January 23rd 1989 .
Speaker 3James Brown is sentenced in Georgia to six years in jail . Uh-oh , what did he do this ?
Speaker 4is going to be a rough night .
Speaker 3What did James Brown do ? Was that an assault thing ?
Speaker 2I thought it was I keep freezing , though yeah . No , thought it was Keep freezing , though yeah . No , it was . Yeah , I think it was an assault . Then he led them on a two-state police chase On foot Car chase . He danced all the way . I'm running .
Speaker 4Hot tub Better than George Jones on his tractor . Yeah , passed him .
Speaker 2January 27th , michael Jackson ends the Bad World Tour in Los Angeles . Those three albums in a row kind of went from Thriller and then they just started , kind of they never really . Thriller was , of course , his peak , but Off the Wall is still , I think , his best .
Speaker 4That's my personal favorite , yeah yeah , let's see .
Speaker 2February 12th , roy Orbison joins Elvis Presley as the only singers to ever simultaneously have two top five albums on the Billboard charts . Yeah , 89 .
Speaker 3Roy Orbison what a thought that was Roy's last album . Yeah , that , roy Orbison .
Speaker 1What a thought that was Roy's last album .
Speaker 2Yeah , that's right , mystery Girl , I think it was called . Yeah , let me see who cares that David Coverdale marries Tawny Catan . We all know that lady . I always like these . February 22 , 1989 . The 31st Annual Grammy Awards are presented in Los Angeles , hosted by Billy Crystal . George Michael's Faith wins Album of the Year . Bobby McFerrin's Don't Worry , be Happy . Talk about a curse to an artist .
Speaker 1Oh yeah .
Speaker 2He wins Record of the year and song of the year and tracy chapman wins best new artist with , of course , new car right that's a bummer yeah , right so is our other hit .
Speaker 2It's kind of a bummer yeah give me a reason yeah , good groove and all that give me a reason to not slit my wrists when I listen to your album and I won't come back . Yeah , march 21st 1989 , madonna's Like a Prayer music video . It was taped in late December 88 . Attracts criticisms for its use of the Catholic Church iconography and for the use of cross-burning imagery . Imagine if they did that today , like I . I don't know how , which way that would go , you know they need to love
Speaker 2it , the , the , the people love it . And then , oh , it's a , oh , they'd be like , what like ?
Speaker 4they were about the southern baptist convention we go after , well , I think after the passion .
Speaker 3The passion of the was no . The passion of the christ no . What was the other ? What was the snuff film they made about jesus ? Oh , jesus that was the passion . Was that the passion of the passion of the christ ?
Speaker 2yeah , yeah with jim caviezel I mean after that I think everything is on the table . Two hours snuff film of the lord pepsi drops madonna as the spokesman out of fear the video will cause religious groups to boycott the company . See , they were smart back then . They were smart back then . Did it hurt ?
Speaker 2now I mean now everything that that that falls into that category . The term is now called and this is an actual term they got bud lighted . I've heard that a number of times about target being terrified to get bud lighted , like that is . That is , if that's not a death blow for the brand nail in the coffin , cement on top of the fucking coffin and then a fucking building on top of that , like they will never come back . They might as well If I was Anheuser-Busch , I would just cancel the whole .
Speaker 4I would just get rid of it . I would get rid of the brand . All light beers should be canceled anyway .
Speaker 3I think Bud Light matters .
Speaker 2But I would do that If I was Anheuser-Busch . I would say all right , you want to do a real radical , you want to get radical , instead of putting a trans person saying they're a girl and they get their own bear can . How about this ? We're going to go the total opposite direction . We're going to cancel ourselves . We're going to get rid of bud light completely and just start another brand .
Speaker 3Yeah , but build from the bottom up and then you can't do a new coke with a go , because Bud Light was the bigger brand than the regular Bud , than the flagship .
Speaker 2Bud .
Speaker 3Light was the one carrying . You know , that was it . But , now you're carrying a dead corpse , an anhyzer .
Speaker 4bush is so big that if they waited three or four years and relaunched it , it would make a lot of money that has absorbed into culture .
Speaker 2now it's a culture thing , now it's a pop culture .
Speaker 4There's a media influencers yeah I could find out bud light I would love to say I'd go by bud light . I'd love to say it has nothing to do with media influencers .
Speaker 2It has nothing to do with any of that . It has to do with bud light and them bringing on a fucking , a young white liberal woman who says you know what ? We have to get rid of that frat boy attitude with this beer . We have to make it more diverse . This is I'm not making this up actually- this is how it went down .
Speaker 4That's an insult to frat boys , because that's why people stopped fucking buying it that's why you know what look at I see it going out the store up here .
Speaker 2Fucking trash See Look at it .
Speaker 1This used to mean something .
Speaker 2This used to mean something .
Speaker 1Right what is it ?
Speaker 2It's like from a bar . It's a tin sign shaped like a football for the listeners . Right it's got every logo from the NFL on it and it's got Bud Light , and around the Bud Light are blue and white lines like the grip of the football .
Speaker 4I'm sorry , I didn't recognize any of those logos because I only know Premier League yeah .
Speaker 2But that used to mean something . It's not anybody's fault but Bud Light for not stopping that ad agency from not saying , no , that's a bad idea , from going . Okay , we'll listen to you you know what ?
Speaker 4it's hard for me to even weigh in on this , because even when I was a kid , I didn't like light beer I never liked light beer I never liked it . I didn't like coors light , I didn't like miller light was trash I like miller light , ah you know why because it tastes great and it was less filling it's a good .
Speaker 3It's a good drinking beer . Great ads . Ab InBev , which owns Budweiser and Bud Light , said overall global sales topped 14.5 billion , but sales in the US declined 9.1% during the January through March 2024 period . Sales to retailers were down 13.7% , primarily due to the volume decline of Bud Light .
Speaker 4Yeah , but in the rest of the world itself but that's not the thing that they you know .
Speaker 2The thing is america . It was , america was their biggest .
Speaker 4Uh , they're like coke , they're everywhere , every country .
Speaker 2You see budweiser well amazing , I don't care what company you're with , if you start losing that much money , you don't go . Oh , it's only america . Well , that's why I don't care what company you're with , if you start losing that much money , you don't go . Oh , it's only America . Well , that's why I don't like boycotts .
Speaker 4I saw things when people say let's boycott , don't boycott , it's stupid . If you don't like something , just don't buy it .
Speaker 2Well see , I have to disagree with you there . I think that's the only way we can be heard , If we be heard if we don't like something then we won't buy it . If I don't like the message that you're trying to push to me , yeah , then I won't buy it and that's a boycott .
Speaker 3Yeah , there's talking and walking it , so you can say I'm not going to do this , do this , but it's actually not by . That's not you know . Um , yeah , yeah , I wish I liked it , because I'd go buy it you know , if you look at those number sales , I'm saying like , oh poor budweiser , you know those things . Those number sales , I'm saying like , oh poor Budweiser , you know what I mean . Those global sales are ridiculous and the whole company that owns them , inbev , it's a consortium , it's a conglomerate . Really , inbev is a South .
Speaker 4African company right but their stock dropped it's all about the stock .
Speaker 3The stock dropped the sales dropped Stock dropped . They said it rose back up another 2.9% in the recent . So you know I think things like this . It doesn't last forever .
Speaker 1I don't think you know people , I think people eventually go .
Speaker 3All right , I'll drink it again .
Speaker 2I see old men in line with
Loyalty and Marketing in Entertainment
Speaker 2Bud Light . Because beer is a different commodity , people , it's based on taste . Right , people buy a beer because then they drank Modelo . Then they drank Modelo and went this is a pretty fucking good beer , because it's a great . Before they wouldn't give up the bud light they were hard steadfast bud light drinkers . Right then they went to modelo and went oh wait a minute , you don't go from modelo . I'm gonna go back to bud light now it doesn't work that way yeah it's like an
Speaker 2italian restaurant or wine . So , lou , let's talk about a wine . You get a wine and you're like this is pretty good , but then you taste this one that's relatively the same price , right , and you go oh shit , this is fucking really good . Why would you go back to the other wine that's not as good ? You're not loyal to that .
Speaker 3Yeah , but I do notice people . Well , they'll stick with one thing for a long time and then they'll move on to something else where some people you know . So we'll try the modelo , for example , and not say okay , but there's a stubbornness to loyalty , I think . But I do notice , you know , from the beer market , like that's a logical jump for someone who drinks budweiser or miller light to try like a mexican costa rican beer or something like that , because they're almost they style .
Speaker 5Yeah .
Speaker 2Plus , there's an image thing . There's just an image thing with it . Like nobody . They already tried to break that whole thing with the Super Bowl ads . Or Peyton Manning they paid him a boatload of money . They paid Kid Rock a boatload of money to say , ah , I'm good with Bud Light now . And it didn't work . People are not listening .
Speaker 3They're like , nah , I'm done , I've didn't work . People are not listening . They're like , nah , I'm done , so I moved on to a better beer . Yeah , you know , as far as someone I consider myself sort of a connoisseur of sorts . I think that's a good thing , because you know it'll , maybe one day mark won't drink yellowtail you know , yeah , that's right evidently he has yet to find a better one . He changed the varietal though , so I'm , I'm , I'm hopeful .
Speaker 4Hey , when you live in paycheck to paycheck you get the best bang for the buck .
Speaker 2April 9th 1989 the rolling stone . We're back on music we're back on music bill wyman announces uh , he will marry 19 year old mandy smith . Good for him . His girlfriend for six years now , didn't ?
Speaker 3his son marry her mother .
Speaker 2Something like that bill wyman's son married her mother . Yeah , yeah that's like those southern jokes I hear fuck , this sounds like a you , but they're not related . Like , that's just a , that's like I'll show you . Oh , yeah , well , I'll show you . Yeah , like touche , this is very kinky yeah well you know , uh , april 12th , interesting holidays .
Speaker 2Speaking of holidays , this , this , this maybe should have been a holiday . This , maybe , this april 12th should be king of pop day , because on april 12th 1989 , michael jackson is named king of pop after receiving the soul train heritage awards .
Speaker 3That's where the name came from oh okay , I thought it was self-proclaimed .
Speaker 2No , he got the Soul Train Heritage Awards . They called him the King of Pop and that was that .
Speaker 3The Heritage Association . They actually coined that term .
Speaker 2Evidently . You would know , wow yeah so I would celebrate April 12th .
Speaker 3Yeah , man who made Elvis the King of Rock . Well like they said why is ?
Speaker 2Muhammad Ali considered the greatest Because he told us he was the greatest . Well , yeah , he did , yeah , and we listened , so he got the name . It was brilliant marketing . I mean , he was the original self-promoter . Shit Right , nobody did it better than him . Then Madonna came along , brilliant self-promoter .
Speaker 3Brilliant . Yeah , she is Absolutely , if there's anything , I used to like her . I used to like her More so than her talent .
Speaker 2I think I always said you know what ? Brilliance , brilliance with her self-promotion , the whole rolling on the stage at the MTV Awards . You could not have picked a peak time in MTV , in pop culture , in the video era , in mtv , in pop culture and in the video era could not have picked a peak time , a peak or time than right there at that moment when she did that , and it was as big as when michael jackson did the moonwalk at the at the motown and the next morning it was everybody was like what the fuck was that ?
Speaker 4right . My head blew up when I saw that I was 14 or 15 .
Speaker 3I was like whoa , yeah , it was , it was provocative absolutely brilliant brilliant and it's something . She's not a super talent , I don't think not to say that I'm not a fan but I'm not a fan . But there's been quite a few songs . I said that's a catchy song and she , she stings .
Speaker 2Well enough , you know , I mean that kind of thing , exactly it's producers material and recording so but then she got older , her voice got better and she mellowed out . You know la isla bonita . I love that song , I love that whole true blue era when she was just a singer that album frozen .
Speaker 4That was a great album because it was more new . It had like a very dark tone to it . I forget william or produced it and it had that sound and that I could still listen to that album . But you're right , she , she changes when she has to .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah uh , this is a good one . So soon after that , uh , may 1st 1989 , california . In california , a jewelry store employee calls the police reporting a suspicious person hanging around the store . The person turns out to be Michael Jackson , shopping in disguise . In disguise . How fucking crazy looking , must he have been for an employee to go ? I got to call the cops on this motherfucker .
Speaker 3What the fuck is he wearing ?
Speaker 2What the fuck is that like disguise he had to go to great .
Speaker 3Michael jackson had to go to great lengths to disguise himself . Man , I mean you gotta wonder what the hell was he wearing ?
Speaker 2probably heavy , heavy clothes and yeah , like it was probably a face thing and yeah like , instead of coming out , like you know , with a pair of nerd glasses and maybe a blonde wig , and like you , know , that's a disguise .
Speaker 4He came out in a fucking outfit , I'm sure remember , remember the invisible man movie , when he got all made yeah , that's probably what he looked like .
Speaker 2He had a scarf around his head and everything yeah , lou lou , who played the invisible man , claude reigns . There you go , buddy . Yeah , I didn't ask , mark , because I knew you wouldn't know I'm much too young to know that yeah uh , let's see , I was gonna say chevy chase , but I I don't think oh , may 6th 1989 , the 34th annual eurovision song contest , and nobody gives a fuck I care I ninth . Look at they jump from may 6th to july 9th like nothing . Nothing happened in June and the rest of May in 1989 .
Speaker 4My birthday month Wow .
Speaker 1There were some low-lying categories in 1989 .
Speaker 3There were bands that there wasn't big shake-ups or nothing like that Right Nothing , earth-shattering .
Speaker 2Yeah , it seems that way . July 9th 1989 , all four original members of the Monkees reunite in Los Angeles for a concert . The following day , the quartet attend an induction ceremony at the Hollywood Walk of Fame . How much as we got older , how much credibility does the fucking Walk of Fame really have at this point ? It used to be like a big thing , right you ? He's on the walk of fame . Like in today's society really , people can pay to have a star put down you know that right they can pay to have it done like and this is how this shit happens .
Speaker 3That's so shitty yeah , it used to be , that's all glamorous .
Speaker 2It used to be a glamorous it was for yeah , stars , it was for it was like marilyn monroe putting her hands in something . But but then it just became like a thing like , hey , you want to be in the rock , you want to be a star in the walk of fame , and it's like , yeah , how much right .
Speaker 4So you're saying uh , sharon paid for ozzy to get his handprint .
Speaker 2I'm sure . Maybe I think it's donations or some shit like that . I mean , someone has to suggest it , but I don't know , so there's a committee and all that stuff like that , allegedly .
Speaker 3Yeah , there's got to be some kind of organizing body , that shit .
Speaker 2Yeah , and it's not a big deal anymore .
Speaker 2It's not like it used to be , If you're , in a way , you're like a rock and roll hall of fame wannabe
Entertainment and Music Trends
Speaker 2. Yeah , yeah , you know like when do you get to be in the hall of fame ? In the news they used to be like entertainment tonight would have a big deal . Oh , lou coliglio's get a star on the on the hollywood walk of fame , and it'd be paparazzi . And now it's just like a small group of people that just get around and take and then it it's like done .
Speaker 4And they have to do it quick , because you can't block the sidewalks . Block the sidewalks , yeah .
Speaker 2You gotta let the homeless and the illegals get by . That's why .
Speaker 3If I had one , I might be next to Rick Dees . Yeah , Dees nuts . He probably has one .
Speaker 2That's how shitty it is . Is this a holiday ? Is this a holiday ? Potential ? Is this a holiday ? Is this is this a holiday ? Uh , uh , uh . Potential . Former beetle ringo star forms his own band , named ringo star , and his all-star band .
Speaker 1He started that in 89 , ah yeah yeah , and it's been every , it's been like some legendary fucking people in that .
Speaker 3I never gave it that much about it and I watched videos from that year . It's fucking good man . Yeah , that band was really I thought the see so what's that ? I didn't care , I didn't . I thought it was to be cheesy .
Speaker 2I did too so and so how was that presented to us ? And then we looked back and we're like I should have fucking went to see that goddamn right .
Speaker 3I thought the same thing . I said I wouldn't pass that up , lou he played with the All-Star Band .
Speaker 4one year he played in Englewood at the BPAC . Who did Ringo Starr . Now Englewood , new Jersey , is down Fort Lee by George Washington Bridge . The theater Bergen Performing Arts Center is small and he played there and I'm like , nah , I'd be schmaltzy , just like Lou said I should have went Now the tickets are like $250 . You can't even get in , you know .
Speaker 2It's like back then they were cheap . How's this for a show ? So August 11th and 12th 1989 , the Moscow Music Peace Festival is held in the Soviet Union . The event's put together by Doc McGee drug smuggler and the Make-A-Wish Foundation . The headline acts include Bon Jovi in 89 . He was at his prime . He was at his peak . Ozzy Osbourne , ozzy Motley , crue , skid Row , cinderella and Scorpions . Do you see a little kind of trend there ?
Speaker 4Doc McGee acts .
Speaker 2You see that , yeah , all Doc .
Speaker 4McGee , all hair bands .
Speaker 2Ozzy had the big hair in the 80s too .
Speaker 4Don't let that fool you . But you know what let's play which Doesn't Belong , and why Bon Jovi .
Speaker 2They weren't a hair band .
Speaker 4Yeah , but they were heavy .
Speaker 2They were heavy , but they weren't a hairband . Cinderella was a hairband . Scorpions is the best band in the whole fucking thing , yeah .
Speaker 4Yeah .
Speaker 2I would think .
Speaker 4Right .
Speaker 3Ozzy is Ozzy .
Speaker 2The Scorpions weren't a hairband , though .
Speaker 3No , oh no , no , claws of Mine didn't have it .
Speaker 2I don't think they ever were considered a hairband .
Speaker 3No , but Bon Jovi were considered a hairband . No , but Bon Jovi , they were .
Speaker 2Oh , they were a hairband .
Speaker 3Those were wigs . I'm convinced Most of those things were wigs Cinderella's had the biggest hair of them all , right there .
Speaker 2But they were considered heavy metal . Yeah , let's see .
Speaker 3August 31st 1989 .
Speaker 2The Rolling Stones opened their Steel Wheels North American tour in Philadelphia , first tour without Bill Wyman , that's right , he was too busy with his 19-year-old wife .
Speaker 3Who he dated for what is it six years ? What's that ? Did he say ? He dated her for six years before he married her , I mean page territory , careful .
Speaker 2I don't even want to talk about that . This is interesting . September 9th 1989 , madonna gives a risque performance at the MTV Music Video Awards . Clad in baggy sweatpants and a black bustier , she shocks the audience by simulating masturbation . Remember she put her hands between a crotch over a crotch . The version of the song used , uh in the show would later serve as the opening number for the 1990s blonde ambition tour . Doesn't say what song she sang , though . The version of this I don't know any . October 15thth Wow , we're almost done . We're not even a fucking hour in . Holy shit , we need some filler .
Speaker 4Where's Dave Phillips ?
Speaker 2This would be the perfect show for him , he was the king of the 45 . Let me see October 15th 1989 . Media Rings Corporation , the Japanese music , video game and software publishing company , who cares ? December 23rd , ice Cube leaves NWA .
Speaker 4Was he the first one to leave ? Was he the ?
Speaker 1first one .
Speaker 2Yeah , he's the smartest one . After financial problems and several conflicts with their manager , jerry Heller , and the , and the groups found it easy . By this time , cuban had been recording his solo debut album , which will be released the following year with the greatest disc track in the history of music no Vaseline , oh shit , wow . That is a no coming back from that one . That was . No vaseline was the greatest district . He talks about jerry hella being jewish . He talks about easy being gay . He talks about , uh , dr dre being , you know , being like a , a gay . He talks about yellow , you know , just coming in and being a hack he killed them all .
Speaker 4Doesn't he say something about dre just being a coward like he jumps ? Yeah , yeah , yeah or something ?
Speaker 2yeah , yeah , yelling compton , but you move to riverside , that's one of the better lines you're yelling compton , but you move to riverside .
Speaker 2Yeah , you ain called it . Ice Cube is a bad motherfucker . He's catching a bad rap though lately . He's battling on a couple of fronts . So he's all about that whole Hollywood and the Illuminati type thing where if you don't conform , they will come after you and you can go find videos of him talking about it . And he's also . He has this league , a basketball league called the big three , and it's three on three basketball and these are great players , but the nba just keeps squashing it . At every turn . They're eating up whatever they're doing . They don't want the competition . So he's fighting that battle with the nba , but he has this battle going on with Hollywood . And now , remember , this guy is a successful movie producer .
Speaker 2He put out some of the funniest movies Friday , friday , next Friday , friday after next . All good , yeah , barbershop , barbershop 2 . What was it ? I think he even did barbershop three . Uh , he's done . He's done a number of movies that fun , but those I don't know if you could find a funnier trilogy of movies than the friday trilogy . Oh no , you can't . I don't think you can find in the fact that he replaced chris tucker yeah with with what's his name ?
Speaker 2Day Day , the dude that played Day Day . Yeah , I know , Was I mean , it was an unbelievable score . I forget the dude's name , but yeah , he played Day Day and then the father . The father was in all three movies and he got more prominent as each movie came along . And that dude was a funny motherfucker , yep , but Ice Cube , he's fighting Hollywood . He's like . I'm not bowing down to you , nope , mike Epps , mike Epps , mike Epps , yes , mike Epps , let's see it says also in 89 .
Speaker 4By the way , scott Scott , back up a second . You mentioned NBA Congratulations .
Speaker 2And I am happy . Number 18 , buddy . And we didn't get our 17th , by the way , in a fucking fake play-in tournament in the bubble where fucking most players weren't playing and there was bad . You know that Lakers 17th championship is such a fraud championship . I don't know anybody that takes it seriously . They shouldn't even have played that year , but that was such a bullshit , vic . You know . World championship In the bubble Nah , celtics did it right and they're going to win it again next year too , hopefully , unless it's the next Did you see the thing I posted on jaylen brown .
Speaker 2This dude is an absolute , literally a genius . He's the youngest , youngest person to ever lecture at harvard . He's , uh , uh , he is a um . What do you ? What do you call that ?
Speaker 2a road scholar or something for uh , mit with oxford I don't know if he went to oxford , but the dude got offered a job by nasa last year and turned him down . Uh , he speaks all these multiple languages . Uh , he plays guitar , he plays piano like the dude is a genius and he's the nicest dude in the world . Man , nice guy , quiet , just does his thing , you know . And he's a world-class basketball player he was . He was crowned mr georgia because he played like every sport and was a champion in every sport he ever played in , and that you know , whatever year he was in high school .
Speaker 2Yeah , jaylen brown's an amazing and then it was Boston fans who were like you need to trade him . Boston fans are such fucking . Some of them are just fucking tools . All fans of all teams suck .
Speaker 4They're just fucking tools and the Celtics won .
Speaker 2They won like game two and somebody was complaining about them .
Speaker 4Oh , I heard the commentators .
Speaker 2Did you see Tatum ? Tatum needs to go See Tatum in game . Five motherfucker yeah .
Speaker 4Yeah , that , yeah . All the commentators are against Boston . Oh , it's the old Boston coming through .
Speaker 2Oh , they don't want that . It's always been like that . It has always been like that , yeah , and it'll always be like that . That's the way we like it . Also , in 1989 , iron Maiden guitarist Adrian Smith leaves the band and is replaced by ex-Gillen guitarist who Yannick Gares .
Speaker 4Yannick Gares that's right who recently worked with Bruce Dickinson on his solo project he played with Ian Gillen and his band before he joined Iron Maiden .
Speaker 3What was his name ?
Speaker 4again Yannick Gares .
Speaker 3Where was he from ?
Speaker 4Ian Gillen's band .
Speaker 3No , what country ? Where was he from ?
Speaker 2I'm not the professor . No , what country is he from ? I knew that .
Speaker 4I'm not the professor Yannick Gares .
Speaker 2Is that German or is that Swedish ? Yeah , it's almost Swedish .
Speaker 1Yeah , yannick Gares yeah , I'm a swedish .
Speaker 4Yeah , johnny cares one of those nordic metal guys . They're black metal . Yeah , yeah , you sounded very jersey there . Where is he from ?
Speaker 1that's like you know you from park ridge let's see , um trying to see .
Speaker 2There's got to be more than this . I'm looking for something right here , um .
Song Comparison Conversations
Speaker 3Alexandra Wilson put out his opera the Devil in Love the plasmatics were formed in 1989 , by the way that late .
Speaker 5I thought that they were earlier than that .
Speaker 4I thought the 70s .
Speaker 2Oh shit , everything I was reading was from 1983 . What ?
Speaker 4the fuck I give up . No , it was 89 .
Speaker 2It was 89 . Let me see Bands that disband Felt and Survivor .
Speaker 3This whole . It's one of those shows people docking broke up . Docking broke up um yeah , yeah , in 89 yeah yeah if we get to albums . You know dan seals . You know dan seals was yeah he was . I don't jim seals brother from jim seals brother yeah , so he was in um england , dan and Coley .
Speaker 2John .
Speaker 3Ford Coley yeah , he had nine number one hits . Yeah , man Country artist . So he's had more hits than his brother , because how many number ones is Seals and Crossout Right ? They didn't have nine .
Speaker 2But he's not in the Rock Hall of Fame , not in the Music Hall , nothing .
Speaker 3Nope .
Speaker 2Nine number ones , right , I don't know . Yeah , let's see . Hey , you know what Ty , you know what we didn't do last week , what let's do this you make the call . Yeah , that's right . I don't like that one .
Speaker 3You make the call . I like that one . Yeah , it's intimidating . That's the Beastie Boys .
Speaker 2Look at the Beastie Boys RoboCop . You make the call . Anyways , I think we got the point , I'm going for my wallet . Okay , let's see . Lou , we'll start with you . You make the call Baker Street . Now , Baker Street is an Dude . So what is more popular on that song ? I want you to think about this . What's more part , the sax solo or the ?
Speaker 3the guitar solo . It's neither . It's a guitar that goes . What's that it's ? It's one of the little . It's a little guitar part . He must have overdone , but it's what is more iconic ? The sax , the sax , the sax , yeah it's a great it's a great guitar solo , but that that is a great guitar solo .
Speaker 2Yeah , well , that's a guitar solo , but the sax that's a sax hook , because that , yeah , that's right , okay , good , yeah , uh , because I guarantee you , if we were playing name that tune , and I said , uh , okay , mark says I could name that tune in one note , and you heard pew you'd know exactly what fucking song it was from .
Speaker 4Mark , you know the song right oh yeah , of course that is a Fender Stratocaster , I'm not that young ?
Speaker 3I know you're not . That's a Fender Strat on the guitar .
Speaker 2Yeah , that sounds like a St , okay , uh , so it's baker street , or it's a jerry rafferty one stuck in the middle with you , lou baker street , or stuck in the middle . This is your desert island playlist .
Speaker 3This is it I would have , I think I I this sounds familiar I kind of like stuck in the middle better , but I think now we're at baker street , ah , okay , there's no wrong always may not always be the case , though I know , right .
Speaker 4yeah , mark , I kind of burned out on stuck in the middle with you and I've always loved , uh , baker street . I almost said Baker in the middle with you , baker Street is Baker Street . Going with that , all right .
Speaker 2All right , it's a tough one , but I'd have to go with Baker Street . I love the Foo Fighters remake of it .
Speaker 1He's going to give up the crack in the one-night stands .
Speaker 2I kind of like that . He kind of you know they do a good cover of that . I thought they did a very good cover of it .
Speaker 4But Michael Marston introduced a whole generation to Stuck in the Middle with you , michael .
Speaker 2Madsen .
Speaker 4Madsen . Sorry , madsen .
Speaker 2Yeah , torture me , go ahead , torture me . I don't give a fuck . Torture me , torture you . That's a good idea . I like that . I like that . I like that . Okay , mark , you make the call . End of the innocence . This is the end of the .
Speaker 1That's a good song , right .
Speaker 2Or won't back down , tom Petty . End of the innocence . End of the innocence .
Speaker 4Love them both , won't back down love them both , but to me end of the innocence is awesome , epic going with that all right , lou , yeah , I'll go with that end of the innocence yeah yeah , I , I gotta go with that too .
Speaker 2Yeah , that's . It's such an underrated song , it doesn't get played a lot .
Speaker 3Yeah , I don't think it's , it's , the music's beautiful . That's bruce horns , me on piano on that . Yeah , yeah , all right too . Co-writer . Yeah , I also think I went back down . I'm kind of tired of that right now , yeah um , okay , uh , lou jamie's got a gun .
Speaker 2It's ingrained into us .
Speaker 4Gentlemen , good job .
Speaker 5Good improv buddy , Good improv . Good improv Good improv .
Speaker 2Janie's got a gun or love in an elevator .
Speaker 3Janie's Got a Gun or Love in an .
Speaker 4Elevator Janie's Got a Gun . Mark Janie's Got a Gun . Leslie Ann Warren in the video did it for me .
Speaker 3Yeah , leslie Ann Warren was in the video . Yeah , she was always doing it , good choice .
Speaker 2Good choice , good call , I'll go with . Janie's Got a Gun . Somebody actually thought that that video was a clip from a movie . They were like that's a movie .
Speaker 3I saw that movie . It's in a movie .
Speaker 2I'm like it's a .
Speaker 4Same here .
Speaker 3I have a friend .
Speaker 4I have a friend who said the same thing . What movie is that ? I said it's not a movie .
Speaker 2Yes , it is . It was filmed really well . Is that because Liz Leanne Warren was in it too ? Her being a film actress Could be Okay ? Mark , american Girl , tompe American Girl or American Woman .
Speaker 4I'm all about the movie American Girl . I'm all about you know what . I forget what movie it was , but definitely American Girl . I'm all about you know what . I forget what movie it was , but definitely American Girl . Fast Times at Ridgemont High .
Speaker 3Thank you . And there was a Silence of the Lambs . That's right . Oh yeah , the senator's daughter when she's driving , being asked all night , yeah .
Speaker 1Staying along with it .
Speaker 3Good pick Little American Girl or .
Speaker 2American Woman . That's my answer .
Speaker 3All right American Woman .
Speaker 2All right American Woman got ruined for me by Lenny Kravitz .
Speaker 3Same here . I know I don't let that bother me .
Speaker 2He ruined that song for me . I don't , but American Girl is actually in my probably top 20 favorite songs of all time .
Speaker 3Is it really ? Is it Okay cool ?
Speaker 2Yeah , I'd have to go with American Girl Lou Lou Born in the USA , oh , or Born to be Wild Born to be Wild , born in the USA or Born to be Wild . Born to be Wild .
Speaker 4Mark , just because of the lyrics I'm going with , born in the USA , ah , okay , very good lyrics .
Speaker 2I got to go with Born to be Wild . That was also my senior year theme song . That was our prom song .
Speaker 3You know , it was like dance the night away .
Speaker 2And then someone had like Lionel Richie Ozz was like Born to be Wild , that's it .
Speaker 4You know what our prom theme song was Never Say Goodbye by Bon Jovi . Yeah , it was
Musical Rediscovery
Speaker 4those years .
Speaker 2Okay , here we go . Um , we got uh mark , it's a , uh , it's a young rascals . Competition right now . Nice , okay , uh , good loving , good love , oh yeah , right , or grooving grooving .
Speaker 4Oh , that's tough , that's tough . Um , both were covered very good . I'm gonna go . I'm gonna go with good loving , because I also love the grateful dead cover oh , okay so I'm going with good loving uh , grooving both great songs .
Speaker 3They wrote grooving . They didn't write good loving , that's a cover , oh , but um , grooving is one of my favorite songs it is .
Speaker 4It's great that might be one of my in my top 20 .
Speaker 2I'm with you , that's such a chill song it is , it is . It still sounds great , you know I , so I had told you guys . Probably you might have heard me talk about it . This podcast is about three years old now . I used to fucking hate 60s music .
Speaker 2I remember you saying that I just did not like it . It just gave me an uncomfortable feeling . I don't know what it was . The first song I ever listened to I put a needle on the wax was House of the Rising Sun . I have all these memories of these jukebox songs when I was a kid but I just never . As I got a little older , into my teen years , I just didn't like 60s music , just didn't like it . How I came back to like . How I came back to like because I guess originally I did like it right . Um , is those fucking infomercials ?
Speaker 2yeah , for the 60s I love the 60s and and I just one night , I was just sitting in bed . I was sitting in I don't know in a chair watching tv and they're always late night and I started watching it and it was like motherfucker , these are good fucking songs and they dredge up some old star from the 60s like peter noon .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , yeah , frankie valley used to do a lot of , like frankie valley did one , I remember fucking uh , who else did them ? Um , they'd have some ladies from whatever group I don't know . But , um , I started listening to . I said you know , and that's the beauty of music yeah that's the beauty of music like you can rediscover something and then find out like , wow , so I missed it , but I can still go back and listen to it it's not gone .
Speaker 2It's not like a movie that's buried right in time although there are a lot of songs that get buried but I just think , um , once I started listening to that those , those infomercials I was like dude , this is like , and grooving is one of those songs . Yeah , grooving is one of the songs I heard on the infomercial . I'm like , why the fuck did I not like that's , like any of it , like what was my avoidance ?
Speaker 4because you know , in your mind it was the sound of the 60s music . I was like you I didn't . I was not listening to 60s music for a long time . I was all about the 70s because my sisters were playing the music around me and what got me back into really deep diving into the 60s was perry and lou doing the music rails show and I was listening and they were talking about it bubble gum , and then you would just go on these deep dives about and I went back and I'm like shit , I forgot how good that stuff was .
Speaker 3Yeah , so scott you . You were born in the early 60s 63 so we were all born in the 60s mark .
Speaker 2Pub was at 69 nine nine so but it was my wife yeah okay , a lot of stuff is .
Speaker 3You know , we were little children yeah but it kind of stuck . But I think I remember a lot of the 50s stuff which I didn't like I was laughing , I was like the way you were with 60s music . I was like that with a lot of 50s , yeah , yeah , everlies , yeah , buddy holly , absolutely , but a lot of that stuff I just didn't know , all that weird shit . But now I used to love .
Speaker 2So in the 80s , well in the 70s , in the 70s , there was this revival of . I remember one summer there was a revival of 50s TV shows . Was it because of American Graffiti ?
Speaker 2I don't know what it was but there was this revival of 50s TV shows and I used to love watching those things . It was a Boston Channel thing , I think , uh , one of the uhf channels , and they just started playing all these and you know we grew up watching these 50s . You know , leave it to beaver , make room for our uh father knows best , and you know lassie , and like we got all that .
Speaker 3But um , the 50s music I never really I could give it , give a take , I don't know , it didn't really yeah , I think if you like , go to those xm channels and just , I gave myself a little time over the last two years . A girl I work with a young girl . She goes I listen to 50s music . I'm like that's weird , you know . But chuck barry the the obvious stuff we know .
Speaker 3Okay , I listen to chuck barry yeah , but , yeah but yeah , yeah , but there's some other things that have just popped along the way , but I listened to some of the guitar sounds and some of these things you were talking about . Rock around the clock yeah , that guitar song well , that rockabilly sound , that's you know I .
Speaker 1I dig that I dig that , but I don't I like modern rockabilly .
Speaker 2I don't go back and listen to like bill haley in the comments or anything like that , you know that guitar player didn't live to see the fame of that song .
Speaker 3Wow , yeah , that fell down a flight as he had an accident , but yeah , but he played the guitar and shake , rattle and roll too , but the guy was a great guitar player yeah but he died . He just accidentally died young , so so you see these guitar players .
Speaker 2Okay , you see these guitar players from the 50s . Now , who was ? There was a ? There was a brother and sister and they were young and I've seen videos of them and the kid was jumping around with a double neck yeah , we should .
Speaker 3We saw that . We showed that on music relish , but like , like the dude somewhere is fucking tearing it up and I'm like how is this kid not recognized like as one of the best , like how do you not ?
Speaker 2How does this all get determined when you see a kid and he is moving and shaking and jamming and he's just doing it with ease and he's fucking fast and skilled .
Speaker 3They're two white kids , right .
Speaker 2Yeah , it's a good brother and sister . Brother and sister .
Speaker 3It was probably too wacky for white rock and roll . Back then I think Well , what it was they ?
Speaker 4were classified as country so they put them on Grand Ole Opry Didn't fit with that . They're too traditional and also what you see is like you see that image , you're like whoa and the kid's flashy , but bottom line , they didn't have songs that were hits . They really didn't have many hits . So I like them , I I have . I've listened to them on spotify . I can't remember their name . But if they , if you don't have the hits , that's the bottom line . You're not going to get remembered , you know , yeah there's maybe too idiosyncratic yeah , that's a big word .
Speaker 4I don't know what that means I'm . I'm from hillsdale , we're south of park ridgeway .
Speaker 1Come on , they were just too quirky okay , a little too singular maybe I don't know , they have many idiosyncrasies , more than three syllables I I lose okay , all right , the Collins kids .
Speaker 2The Collins kids C-O-L-L-I-N-S . The Collins kids . You gotta fucking watch this If anybody's listening , anybody go and check out the Collins kids . This little motherfucker wailed yeah .
Speaker 3What if he's still alive ?
Speaker 2I think he is actually . I think I'm I'm for some reason . I think he is I'm . I could be wrong , but I .
Speaker 3he's working at the Hendersonville Walmart down here Like like the like the deliverance guy uh , lawrence wrote again oh can you hear me ?
Speaker 2yeah , I can hear you we all froze just then yeah I had the
Speaker 4kid to play guitar . He died in 2018 oh , okay , okay .
Speaker 2well , that's why I thought he was alive , because I looked it up in 2017 .
Speaker 4Oh , no , no , that was the girl , the guy , the brother died in 2024 . He just died recently .
Speaker 2So I was right . Yeah , I did know , I thought he was alive , yeah .
Speaker 5Yeah .
Speaker 4Yeah , larry Collins , and she was Lori Collins .
Speaker 2Lori Collins . Yeah , All right , let's see Mark Hot Legs . Yeah , I always liked that Rod Stewart era Hot Legs and Tonight's the Night .
Speaker 3I just like that . I think I'm sexy , yeah , I always liked that .
Speaker 2I liked that . People hated it . They were like that's not For some reason . I liked it . I liked disco too , so it didn't really hurt . You know , that was with it .
Speaker 4So hot legs , hot legs or hurts , so good oh , I , I gotta go with hot legs , because I , I , I think I discovered that song when I was like 10 love it , just love it it .
Speaker 2It's an art rock and funk , you want it .
Speaker 4Yeah , remember the Greatest Hits album where he's in a silk pink on the cover volume one I had that vinyl at like 10 years old . Ah , okay , killing a Georgie first cut is the deepest , but Hot Legs opens it . Yeah , it's a great song .
Speaker 3Lou , how does Hurt so Good go ?
Speaker 4Hurt , so Good . Come on , john Mellencamp . Yeah Little Johnny .
Speaker 3Cougar . I'm not the biggest Rod Stewart fan , but for the bass solo alone I'll take Hot Legs .
Speaker 4Have a bass solo .
Speaker 3That was Philip Chen on bass solo . I was going to say he was an Asian-American bass player .
Speaker 4Yeah .
Speaker 3See , you guys have been slipping .
Speaker 2That's the shit that you need to come up with weekly now . It was an Asian-American baseball , yeah , ah , see , you guys have been slipping away . That's the shit that you need to come up with weekly now . That's a demand at this point .
Speaker 4Hear that , lou , you guys are getting comfortable Did we not deliver .
Speaker 2These are the facts . That's the shit right there that made the whole show . That little tidbit of information . That little tidbit and your little harmonizing with your improv .
Speaker 4That harmonizing with your improv , that was fucking great . Hey , that was great . Yes , but if we don't step it up , he might ask jack and then we can make it jack back .
Speaker 3You know , there was a surprise I can't hear what you're saying .
Speaker 2What'd you say nothing ?
Speaker 3nothing . He's conspiring .
Speaker 2I'm writing more Conspiring he's conspiring Scott , I'm being a toady .
Speaker 1I'm being a toady Toady .
Speaker 3I'm on your side , Scott . I'm a normie , that's right .
Speaker 2Lewis , that's right . That's right , it's on the frog Shay , yes , I'm going to go with Hot Legs because I like the song and I'm fucking sick of Hurts . So Good , that's one of those songs .
Speaker 3I don't really need to hear that anymore . I never liked that one .
Speaker 2Also .
Speaker 3Hot Legs has the great Carmen of PGN drums .
Speaker 2See , there you go there we are Okay . Lou Lou , the car's just what I needed . Or David Bowie's let's Dance .
Speaker 3I'm going to go with Bowie , let's Dance .
Speaker 2Okay , mark .
Speaker 4Unequivocally let's Dance because Circuit City made me sick of just what I needed , but also I love the video of the let's Dance . The video was great , You're playing with gloves on .
Speaker 3Yeah yeah , yeah , I was going to go yeah , red shoes .
Speaker 4It's a really weird vocal . Did you ever hear his original of it ? It was lame .
Speaker 3It was horrible . It was responsible for that directly . It's on
Musical Rediscovery and Album Reviews
Speaker 3YouTube .
Speaker 2I'm sure that's the video where the two illegals grab the red shoes . They steal the red shoes right . These two illegal aliens . They steal the red shoes right .
Speaker 3It's not .
Speaker 4Whoa , whoa , whoa , whoa whoa . If they're not in the United States , why are you saying they're illegal aliens ? It could have been another country .
Speaker 2That was Mexico . They weren't aborigine . They weren't aborigine , that was Mexico . I'm just saying . Just saying , that's my interpretation .
Speaker 4No , they were actually aborigine . That was wacky out of left field .
Speaker 2No , this is a tough one for me . This is a tough one for me . Just what I needed , I got to go with just what I needed , just because , just because it brings well , they both bring back great fucking memories great summers .
Speaker 4I used to love that song . I used to love it .
Speaker 3Yeah , I'm kind of burnt . I love the car . That's when I'm kind of burnt on . It's funny . A lot of these , a lot of these songs that you mentioned , I might have picked six months ago and said the cars and just I'm kind of burnt on , let's dance , although it's a great fucking .
Speaker 2It's still a great song , like it's not I'll listen to it I haven't shut it out completely like that's so good and a few like I'll listen to it . But it's one of those songs , too , that now , now that we talked about it , I'm going to listen to it again tomorrow and put it on and I will end up rediscovering it again . Yeah , you know what I mean like start to like it all over again and we've talked about this a number of times like whole lot of love . I rediscovered that right after 30 years of really just discarding it , pushing it aside , and now it is their .
Speaker 2I say that's their greatest fucking song , man yeah , and you turn it loud it's just a fucking amazing song , right that we've heard so much , you take it for granted . Amazing production , but oh , a whole lot of love is just a fucking I mean the riff , everything . So , yeah , just what I needed . I'll have to go right now , but let's dance is one of those rediscover songs that I will end up listening to it again . I like it better than um than china girl . I'm like let's dance better than china girl I'll tell you what , though I ?
Speaker 4I tell you that , uh , just what I needed .
Speaker 2That verse is so classic cars , I don't mind you coming here yeah , yeah time time you know yep ben or I mean he's the christine Christine McVie of the cars . He sang some of their best songs .
Speaker 3He's sang the biggest hit . I think Drive is their biggest hit . It is . You guys are bigger Bowie fans than me . As far as an album let's Dance , what is that considered by hardcore Bowie fans ? Is it kind of a device of album ? You call that divisive album , given the dancey nature of it .
Speaker 2Me personally , I thought it was kind of a comeback , kind of like a big comeback album . Right , he jumped into the 80s with both feet . He did the . He made the right album for the time , whoever the producer was he had Stevie Ray on guitar . Yeah , niles Rodgers , I mean . So right there . That tells you right . I think it holds weight with some of his earlier albums .
Speaker 4I agree .
Speaker 3I would buy let's Dance before I bought Low .
Speaker 2You know I'd listen to let's Dance before I listened to Low if I had a choice right , so he's had some some mediocre
Speaker 4albums . Yeah , yeah , yeah . You know before that in the past I , I didn't , I didn't like it when it came out . I forget how . What year did it come out ? 83 , ready to so ?
Speaker 2yeah , about anything like that now .
Speaker 4So I grew up on the old bowie and then when it came out I thought it was too slick so I kind of just shoved it aside . And then it was like years later I got to know a really good big bowie fan that got me into all those different phases and he said nah , it's great album , you know I mean , that's that had china girl modern love , let's dance .
Speaker 2It's a big album , big that three big hits off that album .
Speaker 4Cat people was on that album , I think so was cat people on that album , I think so I don't think so I don't think so .
Speaker 3No , before that , before that that that came out in the in the the 70s , like the late 70s , I believe and I think that drum sound that he got on that album Tony Thompson on drums , that was a template drum sound for a lot of stuff Him and Phil Collins . I think that was a big sound . He went on the power station .
Speaker 4Cat People was on that album . It's the last song on the album , really Was it really . Huh .
Speaker 3I'm thinking of the movie .
Speaker 1Damn .
Speaker 2I was thinking of the movie too . Yeah , I'm thinking of the movie . I was thinking of the movie too . So I guess the movie came out in the early 80s . Natasha Kinski , she was hot .
Speaker 4It could have come out earlier , but it was probably just not put on any of his albums . Maybe he re-recorded it for this album .
Speaker 2See these eyes so red .
Speaker 5I catch them for a thousand years .
Speaker 3Do you know that song ? Once there was a boy .
Speaker 2Oh God , I can sing it again if you want . Okay here we go Okay , lou Lou , start me up . Start me up , or Sultans of Swing . Start me up , or Sultans of Swing . I'm surprised I'm in burnout mode , but I'm going to say Sultans of swing .
Speaker 4I'm surprised , I'm in burnout mode , but I'm gonna say sultans of swing , whoa uh , any song that has a line you make a dead man come , it should be a classic . But and the version in the mighty wind was great , but uh , it's really great . I'm gonna go with sultans because I'm such a that album , that song , came out at the height of punk and it , you know , it's like it was a big hit and , uh , even though I'm kind of burned out on it , it's the reason , it's one of the . It's another reason , besides richie blackmore , that I play a strat for that clean tone so I never really get tired of hearing it .
Speaker 2I'm going with sultans we just froze up again , are we back ? Yeah , you couldn't hear anything I said I did . Yeah , uh , salt and the swing is a better produced song . Sure , it's a more mature song . Um , from their first album stop me up is just one of those like it gets you kind of pumped up like it's a great party song . Yeah right uh , they're in the . You know that opening riff is that's up there , that's up there in some of the greats , right yeah ?
Speaker 3yeah , yeah , um this is a tough one it's got some great drum fills in it too . People say charlie watts is you know it's a simplistic drummer . The drum fills are kind of neat . They're kind of weird . Yeah , yeah , he made it look easy .
Speaker 2That that was the thing , like ringo just made it look easy so people thought they weren't doing anything . Yeah , they weren't listening . That was that's why they were masters at what they did . You know , I've been watching these stewart copeland um little video clips recently about drumming , yeah , you know , and like little uh uh stories , uh , behind the scenes of the songs , and he was saying that , uh , his favorite album is , uh , I think it's a zanyada mandata . That's the second album , right third that had no . Don't stand so close what was the second one ? The second one was the first one was outlandos diamore .
Speaker 2Regatta de blanc . Regatta de blanc was the second one , right yeah , yeah yeah , I . I believe he said uh zanyada mandataatta . Mandata was his favorite album .
Speaker 4That's my favorite album of theirs .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 3It might be their best album .
Speaker 2He said Sting came in with all the songs , like Walking on the Moon and this and that and how they had songs . They had like three good songs . That's what he said . We had three or four good songs . Spirits in a Material World . We got in the studio . We just got in the studio . We just got in the studio and we just fucking he said it was the best time for the of the band he goes . In his eyes it was the best time because they had to make an album . Like he said , you have your whole life to make your first album , but you have eight months to make your second album .
Speaker 2Yeah , and he said sting came in with like three or four goods walking on the moon and invisible sun and sun and wait .
Speaker 4No , invisible sun was on uh , yeah , you guys are talking about two different albums . Actually , it's not the machine , wasn't it ?
Speaker 3it's in the machine . That's what I'm thinking of . And then you had a mandata is .
Speaker 4He has the album with . Don't stand so close to me , so we're talking about the second album here with yeah , regatta , uh , yeah , yeah , yeah yeah , so so is that we have what has the album .
Speaker 3It's the first atlantis , do you more regatta ? The blog ?
Speaker 2yeah , there's a yada mandata and then ghost in the machine and then synchronicity , right . But he said that second album was the favorite . He said we would . He said yeah , three gene , three great people , what they did in the studio . And it's like we got to put this together and be like we're yelling you , fuck , you , shut the fuck up , and but we'd pump through it and he goes and we came out with a great album bring on the nights people yeah
Speaker 4what's that bring on the nights on that album .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah and he said that was his favorite time ever in the band because they were just in the studio jam and did somebody just pop on ? No , no , I'm not bringing him on . No , no , no , yeah , bring him on I know no Come on . Is it Perry ? Nope , it's this fucking guy . Pain in my fucking ass . Here we go , it's the ravioli .
Speaker 1It's the king of fried ravioli Look at that face I found a way to crash it , didn't I ?
Speaker 5I still found a way to crash it . Hey , rick , rick , wave hi .
Speaker 3He's out somewhere .
Speaker 2Look at this .
Speaker 5Fuck Already girl . Look at him . Mike's eating steak . King of raviolis . You think , mike , actually fucking paid for a steak Look at him Mike's eating steak , kenya Ravioli's Mike actually fucking paid for a steak .
Speaker 2Mike bought a steak yes
Music Talk and Movie Memories
Speaker 2, jesus .
Speaker 5What did you buy ? A filet mignon .
Speaker 2All right , all right , yeah . So what do you got to say ? What do you got to contribute to the show ?
Speaker 5Nothing . Go back to your music . We're getting drunk .
Speaker 2Yeah , okay , if I don't see you later , so what Goodbye ? If I don't see you later .
Speaker 1So what , yeah those ?
Speaker 2are my buddies from the Philippines that we stationed together . I have to give them time , dr Porkchop , dr Porkchop .
Speaker 4I only met Dr Porkchop .
Speaker 2So I would have to go with .
Speaker 4just stop me up , I'll go and stop me up I have to just you know , and that album too , that whole album I like how the rockers were on side one and they put all the ballads on side two yeah , is she so cold on that one ?
Speaker 3no , that was emotional rescue okay I heard that on the radio yesterday . That's been a while . That's a good song .
Speaker 2I don't listen to that song anymore .
Speaker 3I thought that that was the . I thought it was entertaining .
Speaker 2Actually , I thought it was one of the cheapest , laziest songs they've ever written . I'll give you that . Yeah , it's cheap and lazy .
Speaker 3She's so Cold , like an Ice Cream Cone . An ice cream cone , they just did it for the video , you know yeah they just did it for the video the girl isn't even that the lady isn't even that good looking in the fucking video 60 years old , wasn't she ?
Speaker 2yeah , yeah , she's no , you know whoever the chick was in those acdc ? Uh , uh , shake the foundation and uh um , sink the pink . The chick that came in playing pool oh , she looked like pinky tuscadero from fucking , from the happy days . See , that's a good looking woman right there . See the she's so cold woman . She just she's just an old hag with a tight dress like an old washed up actress . That's it all right , mark . Last one , last one . Yeah , um , kind of . These are middle of the road cheese . I think I wasn't a big fan of either song , but the Heat Is On , right , glenn Frey , the Heat Is On , yeah . Or the Power of Love , huey Lewis . You know what .
Speaker 4The Heat Is On or the Power of Love . I hate to admit this . Of all the solo Eagle stuff , I was the least fan . I didn admit this I . Of all the solo eagle stuff , I was the least fan . I didn't like any of glenn I didn't like glenn sorry to say that at all , and I think the reason is because he came from more of an r&b background detroit and he put it into pop or whatever .
Speaker 2I don't know but I think he just rode the tail , the , the , the , the tailwind of the eagles , and yeah I think people liked him because he was glenn fry from the eagles , but I don't think any of his music was that he wasn't groundbreaking he wasn't . I bought the all-nighter on vinyl night .
Speaker 3The solo artist , I mean he wrote , he wrote a lot of music to the eagles material . I mean , yeah , and what says henley and fry ? I mean he probably came up with most of the music behind it , his solo stuff , like he was just trying to be a soul man too much .
Speaker 4I bought the all-nighter because everyone in school is like , oh , it's New Glenn Fry .
Speaker 3I think I played it once in high school .
Speaker 4It's still up there . But yeah , definitely , I actually like the Power of Love . I'm a Huey Lewis guy . I like him Okay . And it was from Back to the Future , right Yep , one of my favorite movies .
Speaker 3Lou . That's a weird call . Yeah , I'm going to go with Huey Lewis . A weird call , I'm not .
Speaker 2I'm , yeah , I'm gonna go with hugh lewis , I just did , unless no , glenn fried smugglers blues , I don't like . Yeah , right wasn't one , but he had an okay thing .
Speaker 3And yeah , yeah , what about his that ballad ? He had um . Do you want to stay with the one you love ? Doesn't make a difference no , no , but it could have been come out in 79 , but he wrote some great tunes in eagles .
Speaker 4It's so weird .
Speaker 3Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , well , just go the sum of the parts and all that stuff . You know the gay song , which one ? Oh , here we go again everybody's watching .
Speaker 2It's a new kid in town , I just want to see him . It's a new kid . I just want to touch him . He's the new kid in town . Everybody's touching him the lost version those are the real lyrics .
Speaker 3Wait , you look in his eyes .
Speaker 2The music begins yeah yeah , yeah yeah , I'm gonna have to go with the power of love just by default .
Speaker 4Lesser of two evils , just by default .
Speaker 2Yeah , but mine was a default . I said default , so mine is a real default .
Speaker 3You're just like .
Speaker 2Glenn .
Speaker 4Frey , trying to ride my tailcoats of the default word Lou you were at the wall .
Speaker 2You're being very idiosyncratic tonight , yeah yeah , yeah , I'm Don Henley and you're Glenn Frey .
Speaker 5How's that Okay ?
Speaker 2And I will take you out to New York . Minute motherfucker , the wolf is always knocking at the door .
Speaker 3I twisted that one in there . I think we should get to the heart of the matter here . Oh , oh Okay .
Speaker 2Okay , if you want to get to the heart of the matter , then you better start spilling some dirty laundry .
Speaker 3Why don't we just go out to the Sunset Grill for a drink and just get ?
Speaker 1to the sun , uh-huh Okay .
Speaker 2Now you're acting like a desperado .
Speaker 3I win solo stuff . You win eagles .
Speaker 2Okay , all right , you win , I'll give you the win .
Speaker 3Come on the show . I'll give it the best of my love . And it's just , you know I've been . You know , mark being the new kid . I'm the new kid in town . Right , marvin's not here before me .
Speaker 4I don't like you because the greeks don't like no freaks huh the greeks don't want no freaks .
Speaker 1I don't know , I'm too slow for this one . I'm not good with this stuff
Speaker 2I'm just slow , I'm slow hand uh , um , yeah , so , uh , uh , let's talk about some movies from 1984 mark brought that one down .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , you killed it . Yeah , uh , hey , you know what came out when the movie came out and I know we were talking about 89 , but I want to jump back to 84 because I like these movies . Um 16 candles I watched . I started watching a documentary on uh I forget what channel it's on . My wife had it on . I was watching it with her . Um , it's uh about the brat pack and it's uh what's his name ?
Speaker 2andrew mccarthy andrew mccarthy did . He starts telling you know , tracking them down and talking about it , and it was . It's pretty interesting that , uh , their perspective on how that went down , like how they were , just they hated it , they didn't get , and , and at one point , andrew mccarthy , I guess it was , it was an article in the new yorker and andrew mccarthy tracks down the writer of the article and , like even I knew this , I said , I said to my wife I go the . The brat pack is just an , uh , a play on the rat pack yeah that's all it is and that's it's kind of a compliment , right .
Speaker 2But they all took it like they were being pigeonholed and they were being . You know , they were just , they weren't going to be able to get roles now because they were acting . You know , everyone had this image of them and and all it was was just , and that's what the dude said . The dude said he goes . It was just a play on words , yeah , and they could have embraced it . But I know what happened
The Brat Pack Phenomenon
Speaker 2. I , I don't know , but I I think what happened was their people , each one of them individually . Their people Molly Ringwald , judd Hurst .
Speaker 2They got into their ear and said you don't want to be part of that , you don't want to be part of that . And they're like 23 years old , right , maybe the prefrontal lobe is just touched , right , so they have a little bit of logical thinking , but not enough to to figure out the fact that if they had embraced that , they could have made so much more money . Yeah , but they all had this . Oh , I'm going to be like the next marlon brando . Uh , you know , they were like . It started costing us , you know , parts and , yeah , because you fought it you didn't embrace it , own it the master of that .
Speaker 2I always said this george michael was a fucking master at owning things . And then it never stuck , nothing . Ever stuck to that that guy , no matter what , it never right . That's all they had to do .
Speaker 3Do you think they were maybe getting ? They were in fear of almost being considered not child actors but stuck in the John Hughes team . Well , they did . St Elmo's Fire .
Speaker 2They did Pretty in Pink . All of them at the same time they did one of the greatest movies of all time Breakfast Club Yep Literally one of the greatest movie of all time . Breakfast Club Yep Literally one of the greatest movies of all time .
Speaker 3Absolutely . The older that movie gets , I'd have to see it again . I'd have to see it again .
Speaker 2Yeah , the older that movie gets , the more you see the brilliance in John Hughes Lou . I'll tell you , he absolutely fucking had it . Yeah , like lightning in a bottle .
Speaker 4I look at it and I say that's pasquak valley high school . But then , lou , you would if you were in the 80s . If you went to high school in the 80s , you'd say , no , that's park ridge high school . Scott would say , no , that's my high school . That was yeah , it was john hughes masterpiece , absolute masterpiece .
Speaker 2To this day , to this day , kids watch that movie and relate to it yeah , okay , it's that iconic time and they got caught in that . They got , you know , caught in that moment and they just got the name brat pack and that was that luke .
Speaker 4Give it a rewatch sometime in this , like as you're older now because it's a great fucking movie um the uh saint emil's fire was their grown-up movie I didn't see that one , and um , andrew mccarthy .
Speaker 4It's just , he went and became a travel writer for the new york times . He actually quit acting for years and when I found that I'm like I'm reading , like I used to see the name andrew mccarthy like go to greece , this is where you go , and stuff , and I'm like , holy shit , it's andrew mccarthy do you think he peaked with mannequin ?
Speaker 2yeah , definitely no that was a movie for its time . Right , it was . It wasn't . It was a movie .
Speaker 4It wasn't anything spectacular , but you know you know what gets kind of forgotten in all those movies , and I liked it too low for zero yes , that movie , I think uh robert downey did a great job , because he was he never got stuck in that brat pack thing he wasn't really part of that a little separate , a little separate from that so , and that's one of the things that andrew mccarthy says , at the beginning of the documentary goes , who exactly was in the brat pack .
Speaker 2So , mark , if I was to ask you who was in the brat pack , who would you say ?
Speaker 4I would go mostly with the breakfast club cast because jamie gertz was in too low for zero . I never considered her part of the break she was younger jersey and so was , so was andrew , uh , so was , um robert downey . Andrew mccarthy was actually older at that point , so I'd say it's judd hirsch to me , uh , emilio estevez , uh , definitely molly , because she was in a few , you know uh , movies by , uh , because she was in a few movies by yeah John . Hughes yeah , but yeah , you had these fringe guys Like okay , Matt Judd .
Speaker 3Nelson .
Speaker 4No , who was in Sixteen Candles ? The guy that you ?
Speaker 2Judd Nelson not .
Speaker 4Judd Hurst , yeah , judd Nelson . Who's the guy in Sixteen Candles she was in love with ? That was Matt Dillon .
Speaker 2No , no , no , I forget his name . Name , but he wasn't . Yeah , he wasn't .
Speaker 4You can't call that , so they john hughes had a lot of people in the movies that were peripheral , but you had that core group , you know , and they did interview the kid that played ali sheedy .
Speaker 2Ali sheedy was considered part of the rat , the brat pack . Yep , uh . Who's the kid that played ducky ? Huh , the nerd in breakfast club uh , ducky , yeah , he's the one with the glasses and he was kind of he liked molly ringwald , but oh no , no , that wasn't john crier no , 16 counts .
Speaker 4That was the kid ducky . Oh , because the one that they tried .
Speaker 2Michael hall is the other .
Speaker 4Yeah he tried to kiss her in the car and everything .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , but ducky was the one who was kind of her confidant , but he secretly liked her and that was john cusack's first role in 16 candles yeah , yeah , that's and his sister too .
Speaker 4She was in it trying to drink out of the water fountain .
Speaker 2Yeah , interviewed timothy hutton and he said you're kind of the godfather . He says like iggy pop is the god . Well , he said lou reed . But lou reed is not the godfather of punk , but that's what he said in this document . I kind of took an umbrage to that . Uh , lou reed , the greatest talker , rocker in in music history , original rapper , yeah , he , that fucking idiot . I mean , the more I listen to his stuff , the more I'm like most of it's garbage . Most of it's garbage . He has some great songs , but most of it's garbage . That's some iconic stuff there .
Speaker 2For sure he's just living off of that whole fucking andy warhol thing , but anyway , um , he was talking to timothy hutton and he said he was you are kind of the godfather of the brat pack , really , because what was the movie about the military school ? Taps uh , taps , yeah with tom cruise . Well , timothy hutton wasn't that , had a that had a premiere initially , but he got .
Speaker 3John penn was in it too right yeah , that sounds , so we . What about the cast of fast times original on high ? Is that kind of before ?
Speaker 2that's pre pre , that's pre , yeah , that's uh . Pre brat pack , that was uh , and and that's why . But these kids all took over hollywood when they it was like an influx of youth and that's why they were everywhere and they were on every tv show and they were on it . You know , people wanted them in the movies and then this whole brat pack thing broke
80s Movie Chat and Hollywood Stories
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Speaker 4I don't know , you know , it's funny andrew mccarthy always played the like the good guy in the movies and you liked him . But in pretty in pink , him and james spader were so repulsive they and I don't consider spader to be a brat packer , but he was the one , he was the one that got punched in the face in the hallway , remember by um , yeah , prior , yeah , those two were just so repulsive and I think , yeah , it's like so I like that andrew could do both sides . You could do a really cool guy or he could do someone you just want to punch he still looks the same too .
Speaker 2Like you know , it's him like he didn't like morph into like something different , like if you saw him on the street . Be like yo , andrew mccarthy . What's up , man ?
Speaker 3you know , rob low was in there too rob low , I'll tell what .
Speaker 2That's still a good-looking motherfucker . That dude is one of those dudes . He was always a good-looking dude .
Speaker 3John Stamos . John Stamos , another good-looking dude , always a good-looking dude .
Speaker 2But the thing about Rob Lowe , another one who just nothing ever stuck to him yeah .
Speaker 3The sex tape ? None of it , None of it stuck to him .
Speaker 2Yeah , the sex tape none of it . None of it stuck to him , like it , just he owned it or whatever he did . Yeah , and it didn't ruin his career . It didn't do any like . He's just one of those dudes that just knew how to play it off . Yeah also him and him and andrew uh him and robert downey jr they , just their career is the most talented out of them all .
Speaker 4His career should have ended .
Speaker 3He was sitting in stir for a while . Robert Downey Jr I just heard an interview with Jake .
Speaker 4Gyllenhaal and he talked about working with him on a movie . When he made his comeback and he said he couldn't even get insured . He had to be driven to the lot so he would pick him up because his career sunk so low . At one point he made it back low at one point .
Speaker 2Yeah , he made it back . You know , did he ever ? Yeah , you know he got five hundred thousand dollars for the first iron man movie really yeah , and he got 50 million dollars for the third one , yeah , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 2And he , he realized he grew up but he lived that life . Man , he had that , that hollywood lifestyle . He's addicted , he was drunk , he was trouble , but he was . He you know who , who kind of uh , uh had that thing going on . Oh , what the fuck's his name ? He was in saving private ryan . He just died . John sizemore tom sizemore oh yeah yeah , I thought tom sizemore was fucking brilliant actor , a fucking brilliant act .
Speaker 4Him and michael madsen , uh are just . They could take a role and own it and make it fantastic and even the worst movie you know , tom sizemore in , uh , he was , he was , uh , he played um in naturalers .
Speaker 2He played Spagnetti , spagnetti .
Speaker 4Yes .
Speaker 2The parole guy , right , yeah , skagnetti , that was the name Skagnetti , and he , that was . What a fucking creepy character that was . And he just pulled it off like with ease . Right Now there's a little tie-in . So quentin tarantino wrote natural born killers . Everyone thinks he produced it . He wrote it , right . So skag netty , right , so fast forward . Or , or actually , let me see , uh , reservoir dogs right , reservoir dogs comes out and you have michael madsen talking to uh , what's his name ? The guy that talked like this ? And Sean , he was the boss , right , lawrence .
Speaker 4Tierney .
Speaker 2Lawrence Tierney . Yeah , who was actually ? He was a convict , wasn't he ? At one point he was in prison .
Speaker 3I think he sure spoke like one .
Speaker 2Yeah , and he was talking to Chris Penn and he said Chris Penn says oh yeah , good , welcome back . Just get out , who's your parole officer ? And he says Scagnetti , he goes oh , that guy's a prick .
Speaker 3That guy's a prick . Isn't one of the guys ? Vincent Vega's brother .
Speaker 4I was just going to say that that's the other thing . So that's the .
Speaker 1Vega brothers , yeah , vincent Vega and Vic .
Speaker 4He was Vic Vega brothers . Yeah , yeah , see vincent vega , and and uh , vick , he was vick vega . Yeah , stupid vincent leaves his gun on the table while he goes and takes a shit .
Speaker 2I always thought tarantino should have done a movie about those two and I think there was talks about doing it like a younger version of those guys . He had so many characters that he could have just done offshoots of oh , yeah , uh in those movies , jewels walking the earth like channing kung fu yeah , that could have been a movie in itself you know , um , but yeah , so that's the . That's a little tie-in right there . The skag , the name skagnetti . I'm getting congested again . Here we go .
Speaker 4I can't even breathe all right , you want me to mention a movie I liked in 84 yeah , let me breathe a little bit go ahead , you breathe . Did you guys ever hear of Birdie with Nicolas Cage and Matthew Modine , peter Gabriel ? I just recently rewatched it and it aged well . It's a very good movie , very well done . I think that may be the movie they introduced me to Nicolas Cage too , or little Nicky coppola , right as we like to call them ghostbusters came out and then , but I didn't see it of course not I hear it's really hey , ghostbusters , but I never saw it , so you know there's that I'm just gonna bring out a movie , uh I did .
Speaker 3I did see some of the movies in 1984 , though I just went through a little quick list here .
Speaker 2Terminator came out in 84 . Oh , classic yep yep classic .
Speaker 4Anybody wants some soft porn . Body double came out in 84 , so that movie right there .
Speaker 2So you have a version , a video version of frankie goes to hollywood . Relax , uh , which is all about you . Know , they tried to play that video on mtv . It failed miserably . They were like we can't show that anymore . We're not showing that anymore . Um , body double uh . Brian de palma yeah , right , brian de palma uh , good , good fucking movie with the dude that looks like the actor . Looks just like Bill Maher .
Speaker 4Yes , craig , something . Craig T Nelson .
Speaker 2No , not Craig T Nelson . He's not Coach , not Coach .
Speaker 1No .
Speaker 2Yeah , that's like that is is a , you could literally watch that again , like on a fucking wednesday afternoon or something you know yeah or a saturday night like late night , uh movie .
Speaker 4It's a good movie , it is it's gonna be great , great , good twist yeah good twist .
Speaker 2uh yeah , brian de palma had a way of making movies , man , mm-hmm .
Speaker 3Lou .
Speaker 4Gremlins .
Speaker 2Oh , Gremlin in a Microwave . Phoebe Cates , Phoebe . One of the best lines in hip-hop history Rakim after 12, . I'm just like a gremlin .
Speaker 1Feed me hip-hop and .
Speaker 2I'll stop trembling um nightmare on elm street . Oh that was the best one that was the creepiest one when he's walking down the fucking alley with the long arms and you hear him scraping . He's just going and he's like laughing total new concept .
Speaker 4the horror . You're freaked out , You're like what the fuck is this ?
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 4We had a good run . We had Halloween Friday the 13th and then that came . That was the next generation of horror . Yeah .
Speaker 2And they started getting campy after a while . Sure , but the original Nightmare is still a fucking weird movie , man . Yeah , and the fact that this fucked up version of Hollywood tried to remake it , that was horrible .
Speaker 4There was no humor . Oh my God . I got 15 minutes into it and I said where's the humor from Freddy Krueger ? No humor .
Speaker 2No , no , because there's no talent in Hollywood . But we're not going to go down that road . Mark , give us a movie .
Speaker 4A trashy action movie that doomed Gene Simmons' acting career Runaway with Tom Selleck , kirstie Alley Wow , remember that one yeah .
Speaker 1And Gene Simmons . He played a hitman , didn't he ?
Speaker 4Yeah , oh , he was horrible . You could practically see him reading the flashcards , you know , but it was still a good movie .
Speaker 3Those are called cue cards in Hollywood Flashcards .
Speaker 4Flash good movie . Those are called good mark , those are called cue cards in hollywood flash flash cards .
Speaker 2That's how I got through zion lutheran flash cards . One plus one equals four really . Oh shit , sorry , damn
Movie Musings and Nostalgic Critiques
Speaker 2it . Uh , this movie came out . It was a really weird character played by willem dafoe in this movie . Um , it's kind of a cult movie . It was so bad but it had a good soundtrack .
Speaker 2But the way it was filmed is dark and rainy and , uh uh , streets of fire yeah right , the acting was just , yeah , just bad acting and like the whole plot was kind of stupid . But you , you watched it and you can watch it again . Stupid , but you , you watched it and you can watch it again and just like . So the whole plot is a mercenary is hired to rescue his ex-girlfriend right , like why wouldn't he just go get his girlfriend you know his ex-girlfriend , it was like you know but he gets hired to go get her and , uh , kidnapped by willem dafoe's motorcycle gang . You know it was . You know . Now , if you want to talk about good cinematography , it had good cinematography and it had a real dark feel to it . They did it good with the lighting and the way it was shot , but the fucking script and the actors , it was like they talked like this hey , jimmy , we got to go get her .
Speaker 2You know , it was like really kind of the little short girl that was trying to be tough girl Like horrible actress , low budget , but it came out with a mega hit . I can dream about you , oh wow , which was lip synced by the black group , but the black guy that sang it ended up being an actor . He became an actor . He was a small run of fame . But what's his name ? I'm saying it Hartman Dan .
Speaker 4Hartman , who was in Flu's band , edgar Winter . There you go .
Speaker 3He played on the album with Frankenstein Yep Free Ride . That's interesting , free Ride , is it really ?
Speaker 2Yeah , I think I know that , but I forgot it . Now I know it again .
Speaker 4Give me a movie , Mark , you name the movie . I'm going to say the line .
Speaker 2That's the best fucking apple pie I've ever had . American Pie Tank with James Garner . Remember that movie ? Oh , I don't remember it . I'm a .
Speaker 4James Garner guy . You could show me any movie with James Garner and I'll like it . And that was a good . That's where he gets the tank and whatever .
Speaker 3It's a great movie . Yeah , and it's the only time he laid the f-bomb in a movie blue , uh the david lynch uh .
Speaker 4Release of dune the frank yeah , yeah very confusing .
Speaker 3Convoluted uh , not a lot of uh , continuity uh , good soundtrack , though good soundtrack soundtrack , but there was a lot going wrong with that movie you know that performance . It was just too much for one movie and it was at that time . Yeah , yeah it was too much we did the soundtrack .
Speaker 4Yeah , by the way , steve lucas are still still disavowsies . We went to the screening . David Page tried to slink down on the floor and ease up the aisle without David Lynch seeing him leave . We were all just looking at each other like what the fuck is this .
Speaker 2Kyle MacLachlan .
Speaker 3I thought the cast was pretty good . I thought Kenneth McMillan as the Baron was good .
Speaker 5I liked it .
Speaker 3I thought it acted well .
Speaker 2For its time , but yeah , it was just too .
Speaker 3It was too much for one movie . You could . If you didn't know the book , you know you couldn't really follow it yeah , that was the problem .
Speaker 2The book is this fucking thick . Yeah , exactly , yeah , you know , I want just thick I was .
Speaker 3I started watching the part two yesterday . Have you guys seen it ?
Speaker 2I have to say it , so I like it . Okay , it's very entertaining , I like it .
Speaker 3It is so far . I like the first . I like the part one better for some reason . Yeah , I have a few . I have a few issues , not nothing major , but I just you know I , I want to see it I think austin . Austin butler's a pretty weird fade ralpha , but he's good yeah I like the um the girl Zendaya .
Speaker 2She's very good and I noticed this and I kind of mentioned it to my wife . She's very good at making her facial expressions say something . She's just really good at that for some reason . That's just something I picked up . She's very good like that . She's not bad to look at . She's a beautiful young girl , Beautiful , beautiful . But I like her character . I like how they don't really make her the the whole , like the whole deal , like she's ray in star wars . You know what I mean um it's an important character actress .
Speaker 1I think she does a good job .
Speaker 2I think they all do a good job in it .
Speaker 3I think batista does a good job in it , you know yeah oh yeah , um , there was an old tv series , an old disney series she was on that my sons used to watch and I remember thinking , said , said you know , she's really quite good . You know she does the acts physically very well . But there was a thing where she , they made her up to be an old man and for a second I'm like . I said I asked . My son said goes , yeah , I said that was some very good acting . So she's very talented , she's good .
Speaker 2Yeah , very talented Dave Phillips King of the 45s joining the show right as we're about to end it , because we're an hour and 50 minutes . Happy belated birthday .
Speaker 3I believe .
Speaker 5Happy birthday yeah .
Speaker 2Happy belated birthday . King of the 45s . There was . There was a shout out to you earlier . I pulled out a 45 that Patty Yossi had sent me I don't know about 3-4 months ago , and it had a note on it . Let me see if I can find it . There's a red one oh no unfreeze .
Speaker 1I command you frozen . Yeah , I'm frozen , oh , no unfreeze I command this be five right frozen .
Speaker 2Yeah , I'm frozen , we're on frozen . So this was , uh , one of the 45s that patty sent me , right , and it's uh , the song is by gallery and she wrote this one is for dave phillips , lol , right , so this is like a hidden . She didn't tell me this was in there and the name of the song is ginger haired man . So there you go . You had a shout out today , dave phillips , during this show . Let me put that back . I'm gonna say one more movie , then we're gonna jump into I want to do some singles and this that the other thing , uh , the biggest lie in in movie history was came out in 1984 . This was the biggest lie , yes , the biggest lie , the biggest fib , the biggest , just lie in the history of movies , and when I say it you'll know what I mean . So this movie was absolute , absolute lie . It's false information , fake news . Friday the 13th the final chapter came out in 1984 . Absolute , biggest lie in movie history . There's been fucking 13 since then .
Speaker 1It's never going to end .
1989 Music and Album Rankings
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , Okay you know what ? Let's jump in , jump in can I throw one in there because one of my favorites yeah , absolutely all right red dawn came out and that was the anti-brack pack .
Speaker 4That was patrick swayze c thomas howell , they weren't really brad packers . Uh , awesome movie , but powers booth was never watched it , never .
Speaker 2Well , I didn't like these contrived hype .
Speaker 3I never liked it freaked me out it made me want to piss in a radiator .
Speaker 4That's what's gonna say as a freshman in high school to see the the kids in the high school just get shot dead . You know that was tough . Yeah , yeah , yeah , good movie .
Speaker 3That movie doesn't compare to chud , though chud I think it's a classic that's up there with kwan the wind . Do you know what chud stands for ? No cannibalistic oh , you got it okay , I'm sorry . No , no , go ahead . Cannibalistic , cannibalistic , humanoid , underground dweller , dweller , yeah , yeah and there's chud too chud too is called like bud chud chud , but .
Speaker 2But but wiser should make a beer chud wiser chud light , chud light it'll sell better than bud light , that's for sure all right , number 10 this week , uh , on the singles charts , uh , number 10 is uh , uh , cry by waterfront that came and went pretty fast that I heard that .
Speaker 2Number nine this week in 1984 , natalie Cole Miss you Like Crazy . Number eight this week in 1984 , bobby Brown . Oh , this is 89 . I'm sorry , 89 . I was like Bobby Brown wasn't around in 84 . I'm jumping back up to 89 . Yeah , number eight this week in 1989 , Bobby Brown . Every Little Step . Number seven Yep . Number seven this week in 1989 , donna Summer . This Time I Know it's For Real Good song . Number six this week this fucking pathetic piece of fucking shit , bette Midler . Wind Beneath my .
Speaker 3Wings . I hate that .
Speaker 2Fucking , fucking , let me just eat razor blades in broken glass you are my cereal you are my cereal . She's the wings beneath my wind yeah , yeah , she can suck fucking wind , that's all she is uh number five this week in 1989 she's okay , yeah , number five this week in 1989 .
Speaker 2I don't like that song , she's okay . Yeah , number five this week in 1989 . Fine Young Cannibals , good thing , good thing . Number four this week in 1989 . Talk about a lie , milly Vanilli , baby , don't forget my number . Number three this week in 1989 . This is a hack trying to fit in Nina Cherry , buffalo Stance we're all like sushi .
Speaker 1This was a shitty week for music .
Speaker 2I'll tell you that Number two this week , in 1989 . I'm glad I was in the Philippines this year in music . I'm glad I was overseas . How's that ? I couldn't have picked a better year to be overseas than this fucking year .
Speaker 3not only did nothing happen , we finished that year in record time by the way , yeah , yeah , they have grammy awards that year .
Speaker 2They just said yeah I read them off and it was like bobby was a bobby mcfarren would stone , that's right be happy , right ? Uh , number two this week in 1989 new kids on the block I'll be loving you forever . And number one this week in 1989 richard marx satisfied . Jumping over to the album charts , there's a little bit . There's a little bit of a breather here . A little bit of a breather , uh , number . I'm gonna start with we to start with 12 . 12 looks good . Disintegration by the Cure this week in 1989 .
Speaker 2Number 11 this week in 1989 , g&r Lies Guns N' Roses right Got one of my probably my favorite Guns N' Roses song .
Speaker 3Let's see , live and Let Die .
Speaker 2No no .
Speaker 3While we're doing this , lou , what's your favorite Guns N' Roses song ? I'm simple , I've never had an album . I'd say Paradise City , I guess that's the best choice .
Speaker 4Mark , you know I'm a sappy ballad'd say Paradise . City I guess . I don't know if that's the best choice . Mark , you know I'm a sappy ballad guy , so November Rain for me .
Speaker 2This is my favorite . Guns N' Roses song Caused him a little bit of trouble , but I know what song it is and I guessed it right .
Speaker 4I knew it , I knew it . This is yeah . Watch out for a copyright claim , be careful .
Speaker 2I don't care .
Speaker 3We care , we did the show we got , we got eight .
Speaker 2Guns and Roses , one in a million Playlist . It is now on my finally . It is now up to 265 songs , finally manicured .
Speaker 3Finally manicured .
Speaker 2This is the song I have to cut out now . I'm getting sick of them . They keep showing up in rotation okay , number 10 this week in the album charts in 1989 great fucking album , the cult sonic temple . Right , yeah , uh number . Album charts in 1989 millie vanillie girl . You know , it's true , uh number eight great singers yep , number eight this week .
Speaker 2They were actually the real singers . Uh , number eight this week on the album charts in 1989 john cougar , mellon , camp , big daddy , he was still cougar . Number seven this week on the album charts in 1989 new kids on the block hanging tough . Yeah , number six this week on the album charts in 1989 , paula Abdul Forever your Girl . Oh , I got that CD .
Speaker 5Number five this week .
Speaker 2And yeah , a lot of people did . Right , a lot of people did . Let me see Number five this week on the album charts in 1989 , tom Petty , full Moon Fever , good album .
Speaker 4Tom Petty solo his first solo album 89 .
Speaker 2What's on Full Moon Fever ?
Speaker 3that's um . I Won't Back Down right Running Down a Dream , is that on there ?
Speaker 4yep , that's on there .
Speaker 3I Won't Back Down . Running Down a Dream .
Speaker 4Running Down a Dream that's a great song you're so bad .
Speaker 3I always thought that was the Wilburys . I could have sworn that was a Wilburys song and that's it for the songs .
Speaker 4We know , yeah , free falling .
Speaker 2I won't back down . Love is a long road facing the crowd running down . A dream side too is , I feel , a whole lot better . You're so bad , depending on you . The apartment song All Right For Now , a Mind With A Heart Of Its Own and Zombie Zoo Side two is just a dead side , everything is on side one .
Speaker 4I like when you play the vinyl . At the end he goes this is the end of side one , now flip it over for side two , or something like that I feel a whole lot better .
Speaker 2The crowd , though .
Speaker 3That's my favorite petty song , great song better made gene clark a lot of money oh , yeah , yeah , yeah , uh , number four this week in 1989 .
Speaker 2Okay , here we go . The ai has showed up right at the end of the show . Perry denovich , the ai , uh , give millie Milli Vanilli that Grammy back . What with all the AI and shit happening , yeah , here . I know , yeah well , I don't think that's a hill I'm not going to die on . I'll die on the Pet Shop Boys being in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame . Though that's a hill I'll die on .
Speaker 3They should be .
Speaker 2Bobby Brown Don't Be Cruel . At number three , madonna , like a prayer , was at number four .
Speaker 4Uh , the soundtrack for the soundtrack for what , what the ?
Speaker 3soundtrack ghostbusters , ghostbusters , and that's 84 , 89 , 89 . Let's see did I say no , what was the soundtrack you ?
Speaker 4froze , froze up I froze up .
Speaker 2Oh Beaches .
Speaker 4Wind Beneath my Wings , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1Number one this week on the album charts Find Young Cat . Find .
Speaker 4Young Cat Put a win in the show .
Speaker 1Yep .
Speaker 2Now let's see this Day of Music . This day in 2019 , david Gilmour's guitar collection set several auction records , with nearly 130 instruments went up for bid at Christie's in New York . The former Pink Floyd frontman's most iconic instrument .
Speaker 3The Black Stratocaster .
Speaker 4Yeah , Blackie .
Speaker 3With the number .
Speaker 4no , that's Eric Clapton's Blackie . Oh , that's right , but didn't he have like number two or number three ?
Speaker 3I thought he had one of them . Yeah , I thought he had one of the first yeah Of the line Other items sold included the 1954 Fender Strat with the serial number 0001 .
Speaker 4Oh , that's right .
Speaker 2The recording of Another Brick in the Wall . Part 2 went for over $1.8 million . That's all .
Speaker 3I'd pay more for that If I could .
Speaker 4You put it up on a wall and never play it .
Speaker 3No , are you kidding me ?
Speaker 2A $55 less . Paul used for Another Brick $447,000 . Christie's declared all to be world auction records . And they're just sitting on somebody's fucking wall , right , Mark , Fuck me,000 . Christie's declared all to be world auction records . And they're just sitting on somebody's fucking wall , right , Mark ?
Speaker 4It's like what they say If you have a pet , like a dog , don't put them in a room alone . If you buy a guitar , do not put it on the wall . That guitar has a soul . You gotta play it , gotta let it make music . Ooh . We've never seen him have no wi-fi problems . No , no , like this many , this many in a row , we should hijack the show . He'll never know , because he's frozen . He'll never know we hijacked the show .
Speaker 3Oh hey , he's back he's in the penalty box of his own making it'd be , really funny if you picked his nose at the moment of freezing .
Speaker 2See , I'm looking at you just picking . You were frozen and then your finger was in your nose as soon as you got unfrozen Lou's frozen right now for me , their finger in the nose .
Speaker 2I'm just going to battle through this . Nothing really happened on this day . Nothing really happened on this day . Uh , well , clade's charles smith , co-founder of league guitarist the cool and the gang , died at the age of 57 on this day in 2006 after a long illness . Uh , they created the , the greatest white man song ever . Uh , I've never heard it played at a black club or black party , or the ultimate white man song .
Speaker 4I can hate that song .
Speaker 3How about Rosanna ?
Speaker 1That's pretty vanilla Celebration is the white , that's like the .
Speaker 2Larry Bird jersey of music .
Speaker 1I always said Larry Bird was the consummate white man's jersey no matter what if ?
Speaker 2you wore a Bird jersey , people are like oh , you're a white guy .
Speaker 3That is like yeah . That's like , you know it's the white guy's jersey A black guy would never wear a Larry Bird jersey .
Speaker 2You saw it every once in a while in Boston .
Speaker 4You can put like a little patch .
Speaker 2Pride of French Lick Indiana 2.6 million in back earnings from Phil Spector . Yeah , the New York judge ruled that the legendary producer had cheated them out of royalties .
Speaker 3Who did he cheat out of ?
Speaker 2Because he zapped out Ronnie Spector and the other two in the band yeah , oh , the Ronettes . Let's see this guy , jamiroquai the dude , is just still making money off of his fucking songs . Man , I saw a thing on him he's a big car guy , but he's a cool dude , cool dude , but he's just still making boatloads of money off his music that video he made with the room that's still amazing , so amazing .
Speaker 2Yeah , uh , let's see . Uh , on this day in 1987 , arrow smith appeared at the cotton bowl in dallas , texas , the first night of their permanent vacation . 147 date tour world tour and I saw the last date of that tour ah , okay , let's see .
Speaker 2On this day in 1969 , david bowie recorded space oddity . Uh , on this day in 1969 , the first of three of a three-day festival in newport , california , featured ikentina turner , marvin gaye , credence , clearwater revival , the birds , the rascals , steppenwolf . Of a three-day festival in Newport , california , featured Ike and Tina Turner , marvin Gaye , credence , clearwater Revival , the Birds , the Rascals , steppenwolf , jimi Hendrix Experience . And that dude , janis Joplin , played Johnny Winter , eric Burden and Love . Three-day ticket cost 15 bucks . Wow , that was a lot of money , jimi .
Speaker 2Hendrix received $125,000 for his appearance at the time , the highest ever paid for a single rock star Born on this day . Let's see Nope Chino Moreno from the Deftones Very underrated band , born on this day in 1972 . Let's see Ian Matthewsews no , murphy craigs . John taylor from duran duran , born in this day in 1960 . Uh , michael anthony bass from van halen , born in this day in 1954 . Yeah , lionel richie , born in this day in 1949 . He's easy . Ann Murray , born in this day in 1946 . I cry .
Speaker 1Brian Wilson , born in this day in 1942 .
Speaker 2Oh , brian , wow , let's see . Yeah , yeah , mickey , most producer , producer , yeah .
Speaker 3Hermans , Hermans .
Speaker 2Born in this day in 1936 . Chet Atkins , born in this day in 1924 . That's a pretty good day for people dying . I mean being born and , as I always bring it to last , talking about Bill Haley and the Comets , danny Cedrone .
Speaker 4That's a guitar player , american guitarist , and band leader , best known for his work with .
Speaker 2Bill Haley and the Comets . Night guy synchronicity whatever , that's right man . So here you go . See Lou , there you go . He died on the 17th of June 1954 , 10 days after the session , of a broken neck . Broken neck yeah . Falling down a staircase , so Lou see how it came right to the end of the show .
Speaker 3That's wild man , Cool Good call . And a kick-ass guitar solo man .
Speaker 2Probably a kick-ass guitar solo man . Oh , probably he's ripping on that thing , man . Yeah , it's got to be one of the best in music . It's got to be in the top 100 .
Speaker 3And even if you like these music . Listen to the guitar tones that they got . There's some dirty shit . You know they'd shred their cones or put a tear in the cone to get that distortion . Yeah , pretty great cool guitar sound . Ike Turner .
Speaker 2Well , gentlemen , that's it , we're done . We completed it . Two hours , eight minutes . As I always say , gentlemen , thank you for your time , thank you for your knowledge , but most of all , thank you for your friendship . All of it is appreciated , the friendship appreciated the most , uh , and everybody . Thanks for watching , thanks for listening . If you like it , share it if you didn't like it . Thanks for watching for two hours and eight minutes . Uh , it's always a pleasure like to like . I say , you are the engine that runs this machine . If it wasn't for you , I'd just be talking to these guys , and well , it's better than talking to Jack . Oh , come on .
Speaker 3I thought that was a surprise for me .
Speaker 2No , no , no . And as I always say , doing this show for you , to quote my favorite artist , morrissey , the pleasure , the privilege is mine .
Veterans Connection Podcast Success
Speaker 2Oh , by the way , my Vets Connection podcast that I do . I interview veterans , I interview non-profits that help veterans . Uh , I've had some great interviews , uh , with people I want to know about the people like I , I don't get these . These interviews aren't like hey , tell me a war story . I've did my research . I listened to a lot of vets . I could get through a few of them halfway at the most . There's always a running theme like the beginning has the military and this is all macho .
Speaker 4They over-dramatize it .
Speaker 2They play that and some people like that shit . It is what it is . I always said I never dog podcasters .
Speaker 3I can dog their content .
Speaker 2But I't dog them right for doing what they do . But you get right to the heart of the matter . You get right to it I want to know about the people that I'm talking to , like I want to know . So tell me a little about yourself and I , like I've come across . So I've done 13 interviews . I just did the 14th today .
Speaker 2I'm already at like 1500 downloads , so that's not bad for a little niche podcast and it is a very small niche and I'm coming across this theme of homeless vets Like these people . These guys were homeless at one point and it's amazing . The dude I talked to today is from Puerto Rico , his wife's from Puerto Rico . He was in the reserves , he got deployed a number of times , lost his job , homeless , and his wife he took her to the interview . I always do it in my kitchen studio , right , and it's a beautiful story . I mean , if you listen to this , some good stories .
Speaker 2The podcast people think it's just a veterans thing , but I try to get a human interest story in it too and then talk about what the foundation or what the what they do for veterans . Um , and this dude's wife like stuck through it the whole time he had ptsd , he was drinking , he was like a big problem and it's just a great story . This is so that maybe that's why people like the podcast , because I don't just get right to so tell me about your , uh , tell me about your foundation .
Speaker 2People that think it's boring yeah , right so I kind of crafted it into the way of anybody can listen to it most of the time if it's you know , uh , but everybody I talk to has a story . I , I get this story . So even if you just listen to that much , it's a pretty good podcast . I got to say I'm getting very good at interviewing people because I'm shutting the fuck up .
Speaker 4Not with us . Shut the fuck up . You don't shut up with us .
Speaker 2This is the and I got this other podcast where I fucking talk all night . But it's a real strange transition to just sit there and just listen to somebody and it's a discipline . It's actually a discipline because there's a lot of the shit , like this dude had ptsd and he was his . You know , he's in , he's a recovering alcoholic and I can jump in at any time and say , oh bro , I got you . I know exactly . People don't want to hear me , like they want to hear this person . Yeah , so I really have to be disciplined and shut the fuck up . I literally tell myself shut the fuck up .
Speaker 4You do like put duct tape on your mouth . I mean , how do you do that , dude ? I do a lot of nodding , like I really let the energy out .
Speaker 2But that also , that non-verbal , gives them like so there's cues while you're doing it . So if we're talking and we weren't doing this live thing and say lou is on to something , like some really interesting stuff , I just do it like this like keep going , like yeah , go with that , go with that , go with that , and it prompts them to just be more relaxed and just just talk . Right , you know um I had a guy tell me last week he goes . I don't ever tell anyone that story he was fucking homeless .
Speaker 2But they're successful people now , like they're helping other veterans . That's the thing what they do helps other veterans . They lifted themselves out of the , you know , out of the gutter pretty much so the podcast is good .
Speaker 2If you ever want to take a listen to it , it's only . They range from 25 to 35 minute episodes . Uh , vets connection podcast . I'm getting in with the va . I'm good with the girl that's the director of public relations . She likes it , she likes me . You know we've talked and so hopefully it gets in there . Somehow it works its way in there I'm spreading the word , you know yeah , it's . It's a pretty good podcast . It's like I said , it's not for everybody but it's very to the point .
Speaker 2You know , and I actually modeled it after uh mark , you'll be proud of me , but I did used to listen to fresh air . Yeah , right , on mpr terry gross right . She'd say I'm terry , this is fresh air , I'm terry gross . And it gets right to the point yeah right , no big fucking introductions .
Speaker 2I have like a maybe a 20 second intro . Little hook , nice music . My wife does the intro . It's real quick and then it gets right to the point . I've listened to some veteran podcasts where literally takes three minutes to get to them to start talking that's horrible , because most people turn it off at that point .
Speaker 4You know I do yeah yeah , I do .
Speaker 2I'm like you can't front load shit . You can't front load shit with advertising and this is sponsored by , and that's I know , I know I I won't do it . I won't do it . I I don't even want a sponsor you know .
Speaker 4But but you said something , scott , and I know this . Just in conversation with people I've learned I've been told you talk too much . The hardest thing is to just sit back and nod . It really is hard I I tend to excitable .
Speaker 2You're excited . You're like oh yeah , yeah , right , yeah , you're excitable , you're like oh yeah , yeah , right , yeah , right .
Speaker 5So my son told me .
Speaker 4My son told me , dad , you know , when he grew up and he was watching me talk to his dad , you talk too much . Shut your mouth , let other people talk . But I learned from , it's true , I got to let people talk .
Speaker 2Scott , when you're doing a podcast what's that , Lou ?
Speaker 3Asheville has a big VA hospital and complex here .
Speaker 2Oh , do they .
Speaker 3Yeah , oh yeah . I drive through it on my way home and to work every day , so it's a big VA hospital .
Speaker 2And on the other side of the street .
Speaker 3there's all these housing buildings . There's an apartment complex back there , but there's all these other outreach buildings , so it's a pretty big vast for this area too . It's a very big , you know . I think it's the biggest VA facility in the area here .
Speaker 2Yeah , okay , at least . Yeah , they need it too and the VA is really doing . It's like a giant ship it turns but it's turning , slow but it's turning . Yeah , I'm a big advocate of them . I've heard the horror stories . I haven't had any , and I bring that up from time to time . One of the things I ask these people is uh , you know these veterans ? I say so , what do you say to people ? What do you say to veterans that are on the fence ? You know they hear the horror stories . I'm not going to the v . I heard that place is a mess and they all say the same thing , just like what I say just go , just fucking go , yeah , and find out for yourself . Don't listen to the stories , right ? Yeah , you know .
Speaker 2So , yeah , the podcast . It's catching some traction . I have three interviews lined up next week , the 4th of July . The week of the 4th of July , I'm going to release I release it every Monday . It's out every Monday morning when you get up . It's a drive time . 20 , like I said , perfect timing . I'm .
Speaker 2I'm going to release the episode that I did about three months ago . I think I did it april , may , june . Yeah , um , it's the world war ii , korean war vietnam veteran . This guy served during all three wow , conflicts like this was this and it's , it's . It's an audio , it's a phone call , but it came out really good through my Rodecaster , right . Yeah , like to get that guy on tape .
Speaker 2He is such a fucking minuscule percentage of veterans that served in three wars and he's still alive . That's amazing and he lived through it and he had a great life . He did a good , you know . He lived a good life . He raised a family , he was successful . You know , in his own way he's happy , nice guy , him and his wife and um . So I got that and I'm thinking I don't think I'm gonna edit it . I don't think I'm gonna edit anything of it , I don't want to . I'm just warts and all me talking and me trying to . You know , I'm just gonna play it because I don't want I can keep the original and edit it and let it . You know you guys , the listeners hear something different , but I don't know I there's something about me says just leave it alone , even if I sound like a fucking idiot at times . Just think , just don even listen to that , just listen to this guy , because I get some good stories out of him , you know good stories .
Navy War Stories and Podcast Plans
Speaker 2Like , what was it like on the ship ? He was in the Navy and he tells me this one story . He said , well , in Korea was when he really saw the action , and he said we were off the west coast of Korea . He said , said , and we would just sit there , we would just sit there on the ship and it wasn't a matter of if and you know oh , come back , come back .
Speaker 4It was a matter of if come on , can you hear ? Me . Yeah , you left us at .
Speaker 2It's not a matter , yeah , right he said it's not a matter of if . It was a matter of when he was , because they were coming and they were just . He said we would sit there and it would be dead silent . If , if , if a , something , if a can hit the ground , you would jump out of your skin . He said it was that tense , wow , you know like waiting . But they called them the ghost ship or something , because they would bomb the fuck out of them from the west coast , then take off to the east coast . By the time they get out to where they were , they're gone and they're already starting bombing from the east coast of korea . He said it's , it's a great story . He had a bunch of them , you and he had some off-duty stories about what they did on the ship and how he celebrated the end of the Korean War .
Speaker 4It's just a great story .
Speaker 2Yeah , so the podcast is going really good . I'm happy with it . So , yeah , give it a listen . See , there's some good . I give the titles . You know what each one is about . Like you don't really need to know about the legal aid society west palm beach but you know there's another one of this dude who was homeless , heroin addict , lost his family , you know but bounce back . So all right enough about that . Uh , like I always say doing this podcast for you , to quote my favorite artist , marcy , the pledge of the privilege is mine and we will be back next thursday .
Speaker 2Yep , yep next thursday yep and uh . Then we'll start getting into july , so I won't be here the week of july 1st to the 9th .
Speaker 4So we'll take the fourth off and maybe next week we'll do a pre-4th of july show or something yeah , and some point I'll be going away too , so I'll let you know but I'm smitty , it's just not your contract no , because if I'm not there you you won't notice , I'm not there I'm alan rickman , I told you .
Speaker 2All he has to do is set up his camera , put a wine glass on a fucking thing in front of the camera and we'll think he's there uh , all right , everybody , we'll see .
