Milk Crates and Turntables. A Music Discussion Podcast
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Milk Crates and Turntables. A Music Discussion Podcast
Ep. 152 - Independence Day Special: Classic Rock, Music History, and 4th of July Festivities
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Take a trip down memory lane with us as we revisit the golden days of classic rock. From Jefferson Starship and War to Roberta Flack and Donny Hathaway, we share the impact these legendary tracks have had on our lives and personal top 100 lists. We recall humorous technical mishaps and share intriguing music trivia, like the Foo Fighters' debut album release on July 4, 1995, and the misattributed quotes that have become pop culture staples. Our chat takes unexpected turns, touching on everything from Freddie Mercury’s stage costumes to the infamous incidents that occurred on July 4th involving music icons like George Michael and U2.
But it’s not all music and history; get ready for some mouth-watering discussions about 4th of July BBQ foods and desserts. We debate the merits of lemonade versus iced tea, hot dogs versus ribs, and classic rock anthems for the holiday. Wrapping up, we take a retrospective look at the top hits from July 4th, 1976, and share stories from recent live concerts, peppered with humorous anecdotes and a surprising car accident tale involving a wine delivery. This episode promises a blend of music, laughter, and memorable moments perfect for gearing up for the 4th of July. Tune in and join the conversation!
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Well, here we are, episode 152, I think and on this episode, only one half of the wrecking two is here tonight. That would be the reliable Lou Colicchio. I won't even mention the other guy's name because Mark Smith doesn't deserve to be recognized important stuff. Well, me and the doctor are going to be talking about I don't know like 4th of July music, 4th of July stuff, independence Day, since we'll be off next week. I think we're going to have some interesting facts, some interesting stuff, interesting conversation. The professor is the doctor. Whatever we call him, he, he's always on. So sit back and enjoy the 4th of July episode Boom.
Speaker 2The KOFB Studio presents Milk Crates and.
Speaker 3Turntables a music discussion podcast hosted by Scott McClain.
Speaker 1Now let's talk music. Enjoy the show. Welcome to the podcast. You know the name, I'm not going to say it. We're streaming live right now over YouTube, Twitch, Twitter, whatever it is, Facebook. You've heard it for 152 episodes now and I'm not even going to take the time and work this up because we got a big show. I don't have to introduce them, but I will.
Speaker 3It's hey, man, how you doing, I look forward to that every episode. It gets better every time. It's almost Wolfman-like this time.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's no two of the same. No two of the same. Well, our friend, what did they say in Harry Potter? The name that shall not be spoken Right.
Speaker 3He who shall remain nameless. That shows you how much I watched Harry Potter. I never saw one.
Speaker 1My wife. She is like a fanatic. They would go first of all. I think I'm always down there, I think yeah. Her and her friend, her sister, ex-sister-in-law. They're still friends. It's complicated, Not really. They would get in line. They'd sit early, like at IMAX, and get there like two hours before with the bags and they were like kids for these movies. Evidently you know they love that shit that's cool, you gotta.
Speaker 3You gotta enjoy things absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 1You know what I enjoy. I enjoy this podcast I do too.
Speaker 3Oh, here we go.
Speaker 1So that's what happened.
Speaker 3This is fucking great. It's been a day.
Speaker 1Last week my brother, colin McLean, associate producer of the show, he came on fire and he was going after of all of us Schmitty, like he was kind of throwing some rag at him, you know, calling him a normie and you know. And afterwards I was like what, the what the well, during the show we were what the fuck, what did, like what did, and he's like I know, I know so then. So now he comes on. This is people. This is fucking rare that this guy apologizes to anybody he apologizes to smitty.
Speaker 3To mark smith, smitty's not here he's not here to receive the apology he's not here.
Speaker 1Yeah, he's not here. The bed. The one time he does an apology, the dude's not here.
Speaker 3That's perfect. Mark is a great guy mark's a great guy.
Speaker 1he's a great guy. Yeah, he's seeing a friend. He's a great guy, yeah, he's seeing a friend. See, I defend you guys. See, see, I battle.
Speaker 3I battle for you guys. I guess you have to. I guess you have to.
Speaker 1Yeah, I don't want you leaving the show.
Speaker 3I defend you guys. That means we're being attacked somewhere.
Speaker 1That's my military background Right. Stick up for your friends.
Speaker 3That's right, patty Yossi. Fight for your friends.
Speaker 1Fight for your friends. There we go. Did a lot of that too. Me too. Some unnecessary fights at that. Patty, yossi, hello, yep, it's coming up for the July next week. We won't be here. Allison Lenny, thank you for tuning in as usual. So yeah, tuning in as usual, uh. So yeah, we got lou and I are going to do just fourth of july related stuff. You know, fourth of july, rate the fuck. Did I say thank you, amanda, for that wonderful introduction and welcome back my friends to the show that never ends? Did I say all that? I don't think so. I don't think you did.
Speaker 3I've been slipping lately. You didn't last time either, right? I don't think so. I don't think you did. I've been slipping lately. You didn't last time either, right.
Speaker 1No, you didn't think at all, no yeah, I'm distracted.
Speaker 3I hear you You're busy, I'm busy. I hear you You've got a lot of things going on.
Speaker 1I'm starting my own nonprofit called One man One Mike Foundation foundation and I'm going to be working with uh veterans and first responders, ptsd and tbi traumatic brain injury and, you know, doing a podcasting thing with them and it's all it's. It's about halfway, halfway there to launch. We're halfway to launch uh and I think it's going to be successful. I think it's going to be successful and I think it's going to be successful and Bill Crate's and Turntables will be nowhere near that foundation.
Speaker 3There will be no connection. We're going to become a for-profit one.
Speaker 1Yeah, I wish we. I mean, look, we got 30,000 downloads. Okay, it's not in the big picture it's. You know, some get that one episode, but we never promote this thing.
Speaker 3That's what I the big picture it's you know that some get that one episode, but we never promote this thing.
Speaker 1That's what I love about it I put things you know my Facebook page you know, it's over to it.
Speaker 3People don't follow things.
Speaker 1You know I've done the live thing live stream?
Speaker 3No, no, it's good, it's because they're your friends. That's why no, if friends really come to see your band play. Your friends rarely come to see your band play.
Speaker 1Exactly right, and friends are oh, I love your podcast, but they're not listening to it. Right, and that's not anyone's fault. That's the way this world is, this scrolling world where we used to have a regular attention span, facebook has and we're all guilty of it, I'm not pointing a finger at anybody. It's trained us to be short attention span. Theater, yeah, you know, it just really has. People won't stop on facebook if they watch something. So that was one of the one of the things I learned when I started podcasting. I do all my research and I'm thinking I'm looking in in live streams.
Speaker 1If you get somebody to watch for like I think they said like a minute, that's a win yeah just think of that right one minute that people will stop and watch what you're doing and then they're off again.
Speaker 3Scroll away, unless it's something that picks your interest, interest. You know. Yeah, on on music relish. You know we look we don't get a lot of comments but every once in a while you'll get somebody, will go off on something in a good way. But you know the comments are rare, which means you know people you said they're skipping, they're flipping around yeah yeah, they might. They might be saying, hey, I'll come back to this, or like I will never come back in comments.
Speaker 1You know it's a fan, only fans, really fans comment scott.
Speaker 3yeah, I'm sorry. Does that include like intros, because we all do an intro to a show? Does that minute include like a song that you play?
Speaker 1Well, a live stream starts when it's live right. So if somebody scrolls along and not everybody's tuning in at the same time, it's 7 o'clock Eastern time to start the Milk Crates and Turntables live stream, right? So somebody during this two hours that we're gonna do uh, scrolls along and they stop. It could be in the middle of a conversation and then they hear, uh, yeah, he's ready, yeah, or they. They hear something that interests them and they're like okay, and then they'll listen. And then they're like okay, and then they'll listen. And then they're just wired to like scroll again, scroll. Very few will stay all the way. Look at Patty Yossi, dave Phillips we have some hardcore people that will watch the entire live stream.
Speaker 3They're also older, so they still have their attention spans intact, their attention span is intact, that's right. And it's kind of funny. We were mentioning about the whole social media. I always I joined reluctantly and when I did I'm like that, but then I got to the point where it's too much, you know. So now it's just you know, hit and run your comment here, comment there, but you know the the oh you, you are lou, you are a quiet shitster.
Speaker 1Do not try to fool me.
Speaker 3My friend, you are it's hit and run, but then I you know, then I gotta go. I have to go back to work, or you know, I'm done with my lunch, or something you're not.
Speaker 1You like to poke the bear too, you like to see your reactions.
Speaker 3You know it's funny where I live. You know we're all preaching to this almost the same choir here. Yeah, you know when everyone thinks the same, I got you, but you know that. Where's the? Where's the diversity in that?
Speaker 1there isn't, oh, the beautiful tiffany van helen. She is a beautiful girl. Uh, welcome to the live stream I love tiffany she's a great kid. Yeah, yeah, um one of my compadres at herd foundation and uh yeah yeah, uh, so yeah, that that's it. It's short attention span theater. People just don't really. When they come on to social media it's like what's next, what's next, what's next?
Speaker 3yeah, and it's designed that way and a lot of it's self-centric and the majority of is self-centric a lot of ways, absolutely like instagram in particular. Yeah, yeah, um, it's self-centric and the majority of it is self-centric in a lot of ways absolutely like instagram in particular. Yeah, yeah, um, it's just, you know but you know what isn't self-centered? 45 polka yeah, we're playing that as a duo and so no, no, no, we're gonna get mark.
Speaker 1We. We did it for you, we're gonna do it for mark so we have how about?
Speaker 3um what does allison be? Mark's proxy?
Speaker 1Allison is Mark's proxy, also for Colin's apology she can accept the apology from. Mark. Allison, do you accept my brother's apology to Mark? We can wait for that answer, allison, my brother, he was playing a little rough with your little brother last week. He played rough and and you know, of course, mark being Mark it rolled off his back like a, like a water drop on rubber.
Speaker 1And, um, so, so my, my, my, my brother apologized. So, alison, oh, she says okay, okay, she accepts the apology. Yeah, alison, oh, she says okay, okay, she accepts the apology. Yeah, uh, and she will be his proxy in 45 poker. So here we go. Let's start with lou, as usual. Let me get this over here. So lou, oh, you know what I forgot to do? I kind of like this little uh added thing that I do in the back. I trained Mark. Well, oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, I like the little music in the background.
Speaker 3A little background music. Yeah, I got some lounge music on tonight, nothing too distracting.
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Speaker 1No, just some little beats in the background. I kind of like that touch. Alright, here you go. Lou, we're going to start you off with Something doesn't feel right here tonight. My setup just feels a little, you know, how you would hear when Howard Stern was good.
Speaker 3Allison says but I'm a stoner. That's funny. Good girl Allison, good girl You're a good girl.
Speaker 1You're a good girl. You're a good girl. You're like honesty in people. Yeah, oh, I turned it off. Look at I'm all fucked up tonight. What is going on?
Speaker 3It's like sitting behind someone else's drum kit. You're like this doesn't feel right I?
Speaker 1need to adjust this. Come on, did I just kill this? What the fuck did I do? What happened here?
Speaker 3this is all live. Yeah, it's all. Let's see. Come on, don't do this, here we go. Okay, what happened I?
Speaker 1don't know what is happening. I don't know. I think I touched the. It's one of those touch sensitive buttons to turn it on and off and I just didn't have my. I've been, like I said, I've been, I've been very distracted lately, so I'm not really on, not 100% on my game, but I'm getting back. Alright, here you go Far Out Records, lou.
Speaker 3Far Out.
Speaker 1Is that one by John Denver Grunt?
Speaker 3Records oh, this could be a Jefferson Airplane.
Speaker 1So it's got a Far Out. I like that. Yeah, I like that too. Right, that would be a good t-shirt.
Speaker 3That would be a great t-shirt, right. How often do you hear far out? You don't.
Speaker 1You don't? I hear right on the line. You have that grunt logo right in the middle of it, right, that would be a pretty cool t-shirt. Look at my eye.
Speaker 3Yeah, put the third eyeball in the middle of that logo.
Speaker 1It kind logo, it kind of kind of fits the far out, like the joe rogan experience.
Speaker 3You know what these were, and I can smell. I smell incense on them patchouli. Patchouli was your nickname, patty patchouli I smell patchouli.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's amazing how these boxes hold the odor. Yeah right, all right. Yeah, you're right, it's jefferson airplane, airplane. Good one buddy, good one, miracles one of my favorites oh, that you know what that's actually not one.
Speaker 4Well, you just might have with that one uh, that's not just my favorite jefferson anything song.
Speaker 1That's one of my favorite songs period. Yeah, that might be in my top 100. If I had 100. And so you know, you say a top 100, but 100 songs out of the thousands, tens of thousands that we've known, it's got to mean something. It's got to mean something and this would definitely be in there.
Speaker 3Were they airplane? Was it Jefferson?
Speaker 1Starship. It was starship, jefferson starship. That's why I said, yeah, jefferson anything.
Speaker 3So it's jefferson starship, yeah not the, not the starship, not the starship, yeah all right, this is going to be a tough jefferson, how apropos for the fourth of july yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1Good, good correlation there, buddy. All right, here we go.
Speaker 3Ooh.
Speaker 1Is this you or?
Speaker 3Mark, is this you or Mark, this is me? War Nice, why can't we?
Speaker 1be friends. Nice Ooh, that's a tough one, all right. All right that was a good hit. It's a tough one, tough competition already. All right, allison.
Speaker 4This is yours. Allison, Put down the joint.
Speaker 1Or the pipe, whatever one you're smoking right now. I love your pipe. Yeah, this is for you, Allison. It's from Atlantic Records. Okay, so there's a good chance it's a disco song, maybe I don't know. It's a step one. Where is the Love? Roberta Flack Wow.
Speaker 4Wow.
Speaker 1Three good ones right off the bat. That was a hit too. Now was that with Donny Hathaway too, that is, with Roberta Flack, donny Hathaway yep, all right, lou.
Speaker 3There you go.
Speaker 1Where is the love? Where is the love? Good song Yep, all right, go. Where is the love. Where is the love song? Yeah, all right, here we go. The sound of young america. Avco records let me see lou avco records this.
Speaker 3Well, I don't know one year, orlando and dawn.
Speaker 1Nope, nope, the stylistics. You make me feel brand new, good one, because God gave me to you. You make me feel brand new. Is that the right version?
Speaker 3Is that the right version? Yeah, it's got that sitar kind of guitar in it, yeah yeah, yeah, great sound.
Speaker 1This is, this is this is winding up to be some tough competition. Really sold her. Yeah, I see. All right, I didn't want to take this one, but I did. For some reason, something told me don't take it so I went against my better judgment and I come up with oh, I shouldn't have taken it.
Speaker 3what, what the fuck Campbellton lost?
Speaker 1Oh, no, okay, I mean this could be equivalent. It's from the Sound of Philadelphia, right Sound of Philadelphia, the Three Degrees. This was a minor hit. When will I see you again. When will I see you again? When will I see you again? Sweet, sweet love, and then I see you again my sweet love.
Speaker 4When will?
Speaker 1I see you again 1974.
Speaker 3I think, all right, let me see, let see.
Speaker 1Would it say it on the sheet. It should right, it should Copyright. I don't have all my lights on. Let me see 1973, cbs 73,. Okay, yeah, 73. All right, allison, here you go. Welcome to the game. You know what? Actually, what we might just start doing is, instead of the three of us, like, we'll bring somebody from the audience in on it like we'll do four yeah right, shake things up a little bit.
Speaker 3Good idea shake it up a little bit so give me a reason to be invested in the show. Exactly that's how you suck them in, so next time we do this?
Speaker 1remind me that patty will play. Allison got this week okay and patty the fall. Because we won't be here next week, we'll get patty in on it and then, however, we'll just you know, and maybe those two will go back and forth, who knows?
Speaker 3do you think it's possible to get perry to play? He has to be on, he hits it. He's a hit and run kind of guy, I know yeah he's, he, he's in the short attention span theater.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, absolutely Well, he watched us long enough, me and Jack, to tell you guys about it. Exactly All right, here you go, Allison.
Speaker 3I was a Johnny come lately.
Speaker 1Let me see From RSO Records Cow right the cow, is that a bull? From rso records okay, cow right the cow, is that a bull? Is it a bull? I don't know, I think it's. I think it's a bull, right with the horns okay is it a cow? Cows, no, cows don't have horns. It's a pretty dumb logo when you think about it, right, what were they thinking? It's got a collar with like a dog tag around it.
Speaker 3I don't know, it actually looks like a dinosaur like yeah, like a hippo, or like a hippo maybe yeah yeah, it's stegosaurus uh, sadly my comments get to you too late to be apropos.
Speaker 1You know why.
Speaker 3You know why there's a delay because I had the delay. If she's on a phone, you got to go to that bottom line and go to the right and then back to the left and that'll make your comments active. Ah, remember, my comments were so late yeah.
Speaker 3So, allison, if you're gonna comment, if you wanted to comment fast, what lou says is take your finger on the bottom where little, little time indicator goes, go all the way to the right and then slide it all the way to the left and you'll be in real life jumps right in.
Speaker 1It's a real time, yep, other than that, it's like a 10 second delay or something before it posts.
Speaker 3Maybe, I don't know it's more than that is. It can't be minutes. That's what you got to do after you and jack were laughing at me. That's right now.
Speaker 1Look at me, I'm on your show dude, that was one of the funniest things you were commenting on something we had already moved on like fuck these guys that was a great introduction.
Speaker 1Uh, yvonne, element y All right, I don't know why I keep hanging on. Or love me, I think it's. I don't know why I keep hanging on, but it's not as good as the other two, so that doesn't really matter. All right, lou, this is what's going to make or break us right here. Let's see. There he is. King of the 45s, dave Phillips. Welcome to the podcast. Here we go, all right, lou from 20th century records. Oh this, this one hurts buddy, this one just hurt you, yeah 20th century records right, okay, this one.
Speaker 1There, you're not winning with this one. I want to do something freaky to you, leon haywood. I want to do something freaky to you. It's a disco song or I know what love is not. I want to know what love is. See farna stole the song from Leon. They just added wanna I want to know what love is.
Music History Chat
Speaker 3Leon just says I know what love is I don't want to know, I know Didn't have the nerve to do the freaky song. What was the first one?
Speaker 1Let me do something freaky to you. I want to do something freaky to you. I'm going to pick that one just because of the title, because it doesn't really matter. Doesn't really matter. Doesn't really matter. But I could get a piece of garbage too. Better, let's see. All right, let's go with this one right here. It's red, it's from grand funk some kind of wonderful, nice cost 99 cents. There, you, and that's the winner right there. Probably Well, yeah, unless she pulls out a freaking ace in the hole.
Speaker 3Let me see, yeah, like Wichita Lineman or something.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah From Atlantic Records. Oh Jesus, I hate this fucking song. I don't know why people love it. I never liked this song. Cl don't know why people love it. I never liked this song. Clarence Cotter Patches Patches was a boy, right, some fucking depressing.
Speaker 3Papa was a great old man. I can see him with a shovel in his hand.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, yeah, some wrist slicing music. Yeah, all right. Well, I win. Lou comes in second. Allison. Womp, womp, womp, womp, yep, yep, yep. We'll blame Mark. Mark's going to blame you. It won't be his fault, it's your fault, allison. There you go.
Speaker 3Leon Haywood's song came out in 1975. Why did it? Did it say 73 on the?
Speaker 1Or was that another song? The cover's pretty funny.
Speaker 3Okay, I'll listen to it later. We might have to have a re-ruling if it's that great a song.
Speaker 1Oh, no, no, All judgments are final.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, dave Phillips, I depend on you. Son Talking about patches, we're talking about patches, patches. All right, you know what I'm going to do. I kind of went outside the box. Today I'm going to do this day in music, but for the 4th of July. So I went ahead of time and I pulled up the 4th of July and all this stuff happened in music on the 4th. This isn't a year in review, this is just the day in music, this day in music. So on this day in 1995, on the 4th of July 1995, foo Fighters released their self-titled debut album. At first it was a solo project of Dave Grohl's, written and recorded entirely by him. While Grohl never had grand plans for the recordings uh, they were a cathartic practice for a musician. Following the death of cobain da da da, foo fighters was released to a broad critical acclaim yeah, remember the first single.
Speaker 3I can't think of the name, I can the title, yeah the title yeah, it's the big head or something.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's the Mentos commercial.
Speaker 3Yeah, no, no wait, no, that wasn't, it Was it. Yeah, it was a pop song.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3Okay.
Speaker 1I hear this music in the background, so I can't think of it.
Speaker 3They do that, Mentos. That was all him.
Speaker 1Yeah, that was all but the band members. By the time the video was done, the band, like Pat Smears, was in there. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1So on July 4th 2003,. It was a sad day, very sad day. Barry White died on July 4th 2003. He was how old was he when he passed away? 49. No, he wasn't that young. He was older 58.
Speaker 3I was just going to say he was 50. Okay, he was only 58. Yeah, how did he die.
Speaker 1How did he die? Let me see. I don't think. It says yeah, how did he die? How did he die? Let me see, I don't think. It says yeah, but Love Unlimited Orchestra. He had a good career.
Speaker 4He did.
Speaker 1He was a big man with that straight-ass hair.
Speaker 3Now I got a question. There was always this joke line going around. It was always baby, take off your panties. There was like a gag line or something that was supposed to be barry white, but it became attached to him, saying it's probably something he never said I'm sure it's something I remember something this like pre internet, something going around making like people use that. I hear people say that I'm like what do they call that it's?
Speaker 1it's not, it's a syndrome or it's it.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's like the dr lector thing where he says hello clary's, when he never did he never said that and like humphrey bogart never said play it again.
Speaker 1Sham right never, said that stuff. But history shows the people think that's how it was said. Or yeah, you know, uh, carrie grant, uh, you know whatever, julie, julie.
Speaker 3Yeah, he never really said that but you know what happened jewelry, jewelry, jewelry, jewelry. You know, you know what happened.
Speaker 1He said jewelry, jewelry, jewelry, jewelry. You know what happened, though? Comedians in the 70s, when TV was at its peak. Right at that time, they would come on stage and they would do these acts. So remember the whole thing pork chops and applesauce, right, yeah right. Peter Brady did that, imitating Humphrey Bogart, and it just became a thing. It was Peter Brady.
Speaker 3No, it was Peter Brady that said that it came from the Brady.
Speaker 1Bunch Pork chops and apple shots.
Speaker 3Do you remember when he joined the Blossoms? No, it was Jen who was a member of the Blossoms. It was like Boy Scouts, girl Scouts, and he joined the Blossoms and actually became a Blossom. Who were the blossoms it was? It was like the brady bunch's version of the girls guys, I think cindy or jan oh, on the show, yeah yeah, it's on the show. So he was like I don't want to be like whoever the boy scout version was. He wanted to become a blossom and he did?
Speaker 4ah, yeah, I think he became.
Speaker 3He had become blossom of the month even he was in a contest to become blossom of the monthug.
Speaker 1On July 4th. What's that Do?
Speaker 3you remember when Robert Reed was on Medical Center? I do, okay, we're on Brady Bunch. That was pretty controversial. Yeah, I think he won an Emmy for that. Yeah, what was the storyline? He became a transsexual, and that was in the 70s, in the 70s, yeah, wild.
Speaker 1Yeah, Wild yeah. On July 4th 1976, the Clash played their first public show. Wow, before the July.
Speaker 3Who did they back up? A British band. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1Who did they back up? Who did they?
Speaker 3support. Who did they support? Let's see what year was that 76. 76.
Speaker 1I mean, it could be anybody. Sex Pistols.
Speaker 3Yes, it was Okay. Wow, the doctor pulls it out. That's a lopsided bill.
Speaker 1At the Black Swan in Sheffield, england. Let me see, I think Tom Hanks was in Blossom Blossom. Now Dave Phillips. Welcome to the show, buddy. All right, he's talking about the TV show Blossom, I think Blossom, yes, with me and Bialik right Wasn't the girl who had the giant breasts? I don't know. No, she has that long face right Me and Bialik no. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3I'm thinking of Punky Brewster.
Speaker 1Yeah, punky Brewster was Moon Fry, moon Fry or something like that. She had a really kind of weird name. But yeah, that lady, that girl, she's like fucking genius status.
Speaker 3Yeah, well, she was hosting Jeopardy, yeah, but she went to school for astrophysics or something.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, let's see. On July 4th 1974, steely dan played one final show, and in santa monica, california, before retiring from the road in 74 yeah, wow, they never toured behind asia no, they had too much shit to fucking bring with them. I think, like it was just like their music is so intricate that can't just load up guitars and amps and drums.
Speaker 3Well, maybe I think it's well they were. I mean, they were when you think about it. They were guitar, bass and drums keyboards. Well, they had to have a backing thing behind.
Speaker 1Uh Allison my friend Allison, welcome to the podcast. Uh, so reticent. My friend allison, welcome to the podcast. Uh. So it says, while becker and fagan were enjoying major success on the billboard charts, they chose to remain a studio only project with a revolving cast of studio musicians. And then in 81 they broke up. Then they reunited in 93 and embarked on their first tour. Nearly uh, in nearly two decades. I saw them in the like 2007 I think. I saw them at uh the uh hard rock hotel and casino seminal hard rock hotel casino down in hollywood, florida.
Speaker 3They were really good good yeah yeah, they were really fucking good they played here. Well, they had played here the Biltmore Right yeah.
Speaker 1On July 4th 1964, the Beach Boys scored their first chop-topping hit on the Billboard Hot 100 with 64.
Speaker 364. See, I wasn't surfing. Surfing, I don't think 64 tell me, I went right up time.
Speaker 1I get around. I get around, I get around, I get around, I get around.
Speaker 3I told you they played here two weeks ago.
Birthdays and Music Discussions
Speaker 1Yeah, well some of them played there. It's only a name now.
Speaker 3I think Pretty much. I mean there's no Wilsons, it's Mike Love and Al Jardim. Yeah, actually, bruce Johnson, so there's three guys that have been there since the beginning, really, but still, it's still Okay. I think actually Mike's uh son is singing and doing well, jesus, okay yeah, it's not his fault can't blame the kid. No, no sins of the father that's right.
Speaker 1Uh, let me see, I have born on the 4th of july. Right, let's go with born on the 4th of July. Right, let's go with born on the 4th of July in 1938. Bill Withers was born July 4th 1938. Born on July 4th 1943. Alan Wilson who did he play with Alan Wilson?
Speaker 3Alan Wilson 48 he was born. Huh, he was born in 48?.
Speaker 1Yeah, 43. 43, 43.
Speaker 343.
Speaker 4I don't know, I'm going down to the country, going to find my girl Can he?
Speaker 1I'm going down to the country going to find my girl.
Speaker 3Was he the singer? Was he the singer?
Speaker 1I don't know, but everybody knows that song.
Speaker 3Yes, they do. Let's talk.
Speaker 1I actually like that song?
Speaker 3Yes, they do. Let's talk. I actually like this song. I never mind. This song has not gone away. You get people that fucking hate them.
Speaker 1They're like I hate that song.
Speaker 3I put that in Get Together by the Youngbloods. Yeah, you know, on the Road Again. That lumped them together in the same genre. Lead singer for.
Speaker 1Can't Heap't he. A rare for those times, a rare fat rock star, big dude, he was a big guy, yeah like that was rare back then. Oh, yeah, yeah, uh. Born on july 4th 1948. Jeremy spencer, who was he with?
Speaker 3That was the airplane, wasn't it? Nope, jeremy Spencer, oh flew with Mac there you go.
Speaker 1I knew you'd get it.
Speaker 3That had to be early on.
Speaker 1Born on July 4th 1958. Kirk Pengilly.
Speaker 3He is from NXS.
Speaker 1Yeah, look at the doctor. He was a professor, what do we call you? The professor? The professor, yeah look at the professor. Yeah, uh, born on july 4th 1963. Matt malley.
Speaker 3I don't think he'll get this one, matt malley 63 yeah, metal metal band, no, no, I wouldn't know, I don't know 90s kind of pop, counting crows.
Speaker 1Um, born on that same day of the same year, july 4th 1963, michael sweet. This is two totally different bands that he was with, michael sweet, don't know striper in boston.
Speaker 3So he's a singer, I guess, yeah, mark was mentioning that he ended up singing with boston. Oh, he did didn't he? Yeah, and they're doing an acoustic set here. Boston is um striper. Oh well, good luck with that. At a big club here, the Orange Peel, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1Born on July 4th 1971, andy Cregan. I fucking hate this group. I hate all this. They only had a couple radio songs, but Lay it on me Bare Naked Ladies. Okay, if I had a million dollars. 90s had some real. There's some groups in the 90s. I just fucking didn't like them. I hear you the 90s was a weird time for music.
Speaker 3There was some good rock, but there was also some of that Big transitions.
Speaker 1In the 90s you start off the 90s you still got that Madchester scene. You got the whole Brit pop scene coming in shoegazing and all that stuff from England. And then you got the end of heavy metal. Then grunge comes. No wait, there was also a lot of dance music in there. Rhythm is a dancer, like all those songs. I got the power, like all these things. Hip hop was in a really good place in the early and then things started to fucking change, like throughout in the mid 90s to late 90s. You get counting crows and fucking bands like bare naked ladies, it's like what the fuck?
Speaker 3and it was. It came kind of like like almost like grunge pop there's like kind of it was um, the the number of bands, yeah, the numbers in the names yep, yep.
Speaker 1Born on July 4th 1972, William Goldsmith.
Speaker 3The movie or soundtrack composer, the. What he did soundtracks right.
Speaker 1He was with Sunny Day Real Estate and Foo Fighters. Oh, William Goldsmith, he was only with Foo Fighters for a minute then, I guess maybe yeah, well okay, I'm thinking of Jerry Goldsmith.
Speaker 3He did a lot of movies. He was like the Danny Elfman of his day.
Speaker 1Patty says am I the only one that keeps freezing?
Speaker 4yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1I don't see Lou, or Lou doesn't see me, so yeah turn down the AC, turn it off, get it penalty box.
Speaker 1We've had no problems. Yeah, yeah, turn down the AC, turn it up, turn it off, get it no Penalty box, penalty box, penalty box, bad joke. And born on July 4th 1995, post Malone. I like Post Malone, yeah, as far as recent. He's the dude with the tattoos on his face. He was like one of the first ones to do it. Funny thing is he came out and he was, he was already popular. Then he just started getting the tattoos on his face. Like he didn't come out like that. Oh really, okay, yeah. And it was like people like well, did he just tat? And then another one, and then another one I give that, I give this generation credit. And then fucking tat, face tattoos. It's like that's painful. That was like back in our day. If someone did heroin, it was like what the fuck are you crazy? Yeah, well, you know. And then mike tyson actually started it all that's right.
Speaker 3I know we had one on the side of his head or something he had that tribal like around his eye that's right. That's right, you know, which made him even scarier looking yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1But people were like out of their minds and he got a face tattoo like that was like you are really crossing a line there. Ashland has a blue man?
Speaker 3oh no, completely, and not because of the silver. Remember you ever hear that guy, the guy he took so much like colloidal silver as a yeah, he turned blue. He looked like a fucking Smurf. This guy tattooed himself blue. This kid he was a young guy. I've seen him twice, Head to toe. He looks like Mystique from the X-Men. He's got red hair.
Speaker 1You have to be ready to not have a normal life, a normal job.
Speaker 3You've got to find a really, really good girl that's willing to fucking put up with that, or you inherited a pile that will never go away, but still, this is like a die job, I mean, because it was solid, there was no bricks, it was completely solid. I mean.
Speaker 1So even if you got a boatload of money, you got 50 million in the bank you're buying hookers, Absolutely that's the only way you're going to get a girl, that's in it for the gold digger that's going to come along and like oh, blue's my favorite color, Right.
Speaker 3Or something who wants to do something freaky to you.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, so if you choke him out, how do you know he's choked out? He's already blue.
Speaker 3Blue in the face. I didn't know he was dead.
Speaker 1Yeah, he's blue. What the fuck did I know Almost blue yeah, that's my defense. That's my defense.
Speaker 4He was fucking blue. How did I?
Speaker 3know he was dead. He was already blue. The fuck you kidding me. I didn't touch him.
Speaker 1Yeah, he's got a black and blue. Well, to me it only looks black. It's always blue, everything's blue. Let's see, now we'll get into this day of music.
Speaker 3Actually, I have a 4th of July birthday though. Oh yeah, yes, I'd like to wish a happy birthday to my younger sister, caroline whose birthday is on the 4th of July.
Speaker 1Ah, okay, that must have been good parties when you were growing up. Yeah, yeah, let me change the music. Let me get some down tempo. Let's see what down tempo sounds like on this. Let's see, let's see. What do you think?
Speaker 3If you turn it down a little bit.
Speaker 1I'm just getting the sound for it.
Speaker 3What do you think?
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, I'm easy like that.
Speaker 3Okay, sounds good, let me see, I like the rhythm of that one.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, is it too loud? Though it's a little. Yeah, it's a bit much okay bit much.
Speaker 1Huh, blue's very polite, it's a bit much. Say turn the fucking shit down fucking turn it down I can't hear myself think don't talk to me like that's good, talk to me like a man, turn that shit down in the shit. You notice how people something when they like where we're from in those areas, they don't say what they say the fuck yeah the fuck, like we're too lazy to say what literally at work.
Speaker 3Last week we had a delivery driver come in, a new guy and he comes up to me and goes from New Jersey like yeah, you're, like I can tell and you're like the fuck what's it to you? The fuck, the? What the fuck? What's it to you? The fuck dude.
Speaker 1Again the fuck, not what the fuck.
Speaker 3The fuck.
Speaker 1The fuck dude. July 4th 2021, american country rockabilly singer guitarist Stanford Clark died, best known for his 1956 hit the Fool by Lee Hazelwood Lee.
Speaker 3Hazelwood, didn't he do stuff with Nancy Sinatra?
Speaker 1I don't know.
Speaker 3That's your territory I think they did some duets.
Speaker 1I will believe you.
Speaker 3Thank you.
Freddie Mercury's Stage Costumes
Speaker 1You can lie anytime, Lou. Everybody's going to believe you but I would never lie. Do what Jack used to do fuck dickhead the fuck dickhead, the fuck dickhead, the fuck asshole, the fuck you idiot, the fuck fuck face fuck this that is yeah, yeah, yeah, shut. Well, my favorite saying I I don't know how many times in my lifetime I've said this is shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, that's great. Shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1you can say different ways too. Actually I did that. Uh, I I did a a little meme bite with me and Mark. One night I was talking about, someone came on, robert Kirkman came on. I was like shut the fuck up. And Mark was laughing at the same time, like you see him going, hey, and I got into a little clip and it's him laughing at me, saying shut the fuck up. So you can send it to anybody you want. I'll send it to you, lou. You send it to anybody you want, I will. It's a great comeback on Facebook too.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, someone gets in an argument, you just post that. Shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1Shut the fuck up. I learned, so I found all these little clips, like all these little. I come across them, like you know, I don't know watching a TV show, good little clip, and I have this whole collection and I've literally gotten into. Gee, imagine me getting into a Facebook war with somebody and literally one time I must have 15 responses in a row with these different clips. Right, I wouldn't type a word, I would just post these video memes, right, and it drove them fucking crazy. You know you're breaking somebody when they're like how old are you? Automatic win. If they type back how old are you, just drop the mic.
Speaker 1You got them to respond yeah, you got them, because now you're under their skin and just walk away from that, drop the mic. Got you, got you, got you. I'm still undefeated, by the way. Still undefeated. July 4th 2015,. Blur's Damon Albarn, also of Gorillaz fame, was removed from stage at the Rockslide Festival in Denmark after a mammoth five-hour set. The singer, who was headlining the event with his Africa Express project, encouraged the crowd to protest at the plug being pulled. The stage manager emerged to put the singer's jacket over his shoulders and lifted him off the stage. Five hours he wouldn't get off the stage.
Speaker 3How do you keep singing for five hours?
Speaker 1What do you do for five hours? How do you? What do you do for five hours? Just jam and rap on jam, just fucking keep jamming and singing seem to sing the same song three times.
Speaker 3I don't know stream of conscious lyrics or something who knows?
Speaker 1yeah, five hours. I'm gonna have to look that one up yeah, maybe there's like a five hour live thing of it I would think after three hours they would have been like just fucking, just go pick them up and pull them off this. How do you delay them for five hours?
Speaker 3the giant king comes off on the side of the stage like in, in in the crowd Fucking.
Speaker 1who's going to stay there for five hours?
Speaker 3Right right.
Speaker 1That's going to be a rabid crowd.
Speaker 3That has to be a crowd. Where did this take place? Again, it was in.
Speaker 1Denmark.
Speaker 4And he had this.
Speaker 1Africa Express project that he was doing. This is 2015,. So Gorillaz were around, so he kind of did his own. So, yeah, it does have a massive following. So who knows what he was doing.
Speaker 3Maybe they were into it.
Speaker 1Dave Phillips. King of the 45, says back in the day, chicago did four-hour sets, santana two Really, but they didn't do five-hour sets. Five-hour sets, yeah. So get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 3Shut the fuck up the fuck.
Speaker 1The fuck dickhead, Come up with that stupid. It's not five hours Now. If you come back and said they did six hours, I'd be like, oh, look at Dave Phillips, King of the 45s, contributing to the show, but he comes in with like a second-place winner, Like second place winner. Like second place, that's second place. Dave Phillips, King of the 45s, Don't come to this show with second place information. Be like the professor, have top rate info and be able to back it up the fuck.
Speaker 3The gauntlet's been tossed.
Speaker 1The fuck.
Speaker 3I wouldn't want to be at a five hour show. I couldn't, I couldn't, yeah, I couldn't do.
Speaker 1it all right, here we go now I'm fighting with the, with the audience. Contempt for your audience fuck me, no, no, fuck you, okay, no, fuck me, fuck you. Fuck, fuck me, fuck you, fuck me, fuck me, no, fuck you. Beat that, see. He can't because he doesn't have a camera. So whatever he responds with, I'll say I can do it in any tone I want Fuck you, dickhead. See, that's how he says it.
Speaker 3That's the voice we hear in our heads.
Speaker 1Fuck you dickhead when the comments come in. Yeah, that's how he says it that's the voice, that's the voice we hear in our heads. Yeah, yeah, that's, that's gonna be his voice. Everything back in the day, chicago did four hour sets. Santana too. See it doesn't. I don't care what you see, anything he says is irrelevant, because now people are going to hear that voice in their head when he types in. Go ahead, I dare you Type it in Dave Phillips, king of the 45s. See Patty's laughing at you. See See, well, fuck too.
Speaker 3Where's Allison?
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3Allison hasn't figured out the trick yet.
Speaker 1No, no See. Dave Phillips, King of the 45s, just responded. Well, fuck too, See, that's not aggressive, he's not getting to me, he doesn't he can't win, he can't win. That's all there is to it. All right, moving on. Uh, let me see. On july 4th 2012, uh, bottoms of london announced that freddie mercury's black and white Harlequin stage costume had sold for 22,500 pounds which is about $25,000, at their entertainment memorabilia site. Now, that's a pretty infamous outfit. The black and white stripes Okay, oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 3The bodysuit it's like black and white.
Speaker 1The Harlequin costume was one of Freddie's most recognizable stage designs, which he wore at a number of high-profile concerts in the 70s. Also, a pair of Freddie's ballet pumps exceeded the pre-sale estimate of 1,500 pounds to $2,000,. Selling for 4,000 pounds, so that's like 4,500 bucks, maybe $5,000. Selling for 4,000 pounds, so that's like 4,500 bucks, maybe $5,000. To an overseas internet bidder, freddie had worn the white leather ballet shoes during Queen's legendary Hyde Park performance in 1976.
Speaker 3Wow yeah, and they only went for 4,500 pounds, that Harlequin one was half black, half white.
Music Events on July 4th
Speaker 1That's what it was, and the chest was, and the chest, like was all the way open, like it went all the way halfway down his chest. Yeah, uh, let me see. On july 4th 2010, my buddy, my man, my man, george michael, was arrested after he crashed his car into the front of a snappy snaps store store in Hampstead, north London. The singer was returning home from a gay pride parade when the incident was spotted on CCTV. They got that shit everywhere in England. Now he was arrested on suspicion of being unfit to drive and charged with possession of cannabis and with driving while unfit through drink or drugs, and he rebounded from it unfit.
Speaker 3It's so polite, it's so polite yeah, uh.
Speaker 1On july 4th 2009, 77 year old alan klein who's alan klein.
Speaker 3He was the infamous manager of the rolling Stones and the Beatles.
Speaker 1There you go buddy, there you go. Died after a battle with Alzheimer's disease. What year was that? 2009. The assets of his company, abkco Music and Records, include the recordings by the Rolling Stones, the Animals, herman's Hermits, bobby Womack, the Kinks, chubby Checka, bobby Rydell and many others. Wow, the Kinks on there, wow, wow.
Speaker 3He owned all that music. Well, the Stones. I'm not surprised. I knew he had something to do with the Animals too, but the Kinks? I didn't know he had anything.
Speaker 1Evidently he produced them or something. You know what I mean? I don't know.
Speaker 4His company owned all that music, evidently.
Speaker 1On July 4th 2007, a former laboratory worker, devin Townsend, admitted to a court in Albuquerque, new Mexico, of stalking Chester Bennington the late Chester Bennington, lead singer of Linkin Park. This guy used US government computers to obtain Bennington's personal information, accessing his email account and mobile phone voicemail. Yikes, what was this dude doing? Wow, jesus, was he in the Air Force? He might have been in the Air Force.
Speaker 1Because, that's where I was stationed, the Kirtland Air Force Base. But I didn't know, I don't know, I don't think so. Sandia Labs is out there too. Some weird shit goes on out there. The court was told how she traveled to Arizona slowly. Oh, it was a girl Traveled to Arizona solely for the purpose of trying to see the singer and monitored Chester Bennington's voicemail as a means of trying to locate where he might be eating.
Speaker 3Cuckoo, you think so?
Speaker 1So she was a former laboratory worker, so she was with Sandia Labs, I'm sure, right, right yeah.
Speaker 3Learned her trade well.
Speaker 1Yeah, she certainly did. On July 4th 2005, U2 won their court fight for the return of items and memorabilia, including a Stetson hat, which they accused a former stylist of stealing. Judge Matthew Deary at Dublin Circuit Court ordered Lola Cashman to return the items, which also included earrings, within seven days. Ms Cashman had worked as U2's stylist during the 80s and wrote an unauthorized book called Inside the Zoo, Zoropa. Judge Derry said he found Ms Cashman's version of how she had been given the items at the end of the US tour doubtful, Particularly her description of Bono running around in his underpants backstage Rock and roll baby.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's the hat he's wearing on the cover of Rattle and Hum. Okay, and he wore it in the movie Rattle and Hum.
Speaker 3Okay, and he wore it in the movie Rattle and Hum.
Speaker 1Oh, right, right, yeah, and you know what I think, by 2005, they had archivists Guaranteed. They had archivists. Everything that went onto it got put somewhere Like they know the value, Not like back in the day when, fucking you know, I don't know, Robert Plant would give his fucking, his leather vest away or something you know, his fringe vest. Yeah, here you go.
Speaker 3She saw this thing lying there and went.
Speaker 1Oh, yeah, yeah. And then somehow, when she wrote the book, that was her downfall.
Speaker 3Then you poked the bear, then yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 1Started talking shit. She's kind of scummy for doing that, you know, all that time she's the stylist and she's helping him and she's like, ooh, I'm going to write a book and start looking for all that juicy shit. Let me see. On July 4th 2003, barry White died from kidney failure at the age of 58. On July 4th 2002, my man once again, george Michael, took part in a live phone interview on US news channel CNN. When CNN really did the news defending his new single shoot the dog, americans were upset by the controversial video which had president bush in bed with tony blair wow, wow I'm gonna have to look at that really you're
Speaker 1gonna see that one. That's funny. Then he did another video. After he got caught in the whole public restroom thing, he came out with a song. It was a fairly good song and the video was him. You know, all dancing and all the background dancers were cops dressed as cops. Very flamboyant police, you know what I mean? Right, right, and quite the dig at the undercover cops at work. So who takes that? You know, like, hey, we got something for you to do. We got some undercover work for you to do. I got this one. You're going to cruise the bathrooms in Central Park. You're going to cruise the bathrooms in.
Speaker 1Central Park. You're going to cruise the men's bathrooms and you're going to look for somebody soliciting sex in the men's bathrooms in Central Park. I'd be like, yeah, you better desk me on put me on a desk for this one.
Speaker 3Al Pacino would volunteer for it.
Speaker 1Well, yeah, yeah, you know what I've been meaning. I'm going to watch that movie again Cruisin', cruisin'. It was really dark.
Speaker 3Really fucking dark. It was really dark. It's probably not as bad as it was depicted back then. That was just very controversial for the time.
Speaker 1Was it ever?
Speaker 3Was that even in the 80s or early 80s? No?
Speaker 1it was early 80s. Like 82, something like that, no it was before that, I was still in high school, so maybe 80? 80. 80, 81? Yeah, yep, let's see. July 4, 2000,. A man fell 80 feet to his death during a Metallica concert at Raven Stadium in Baltimore. Oof, that's literally entering.
Speaker 3Sandman Exit life. What was he doing that? He fell 80 feet.
Speaker 1Well, evidently he was in the balcony and you know those are fucking dangerous seats if you're drinking man, if you're drinking, yeah, and you're getting rowdy Because those walls only go up to about your waist, yeah, and those bars they'll have a bar there, right?
Speaker 1that's the infamous. Well, that's not it, but there's an infamous video out there of the dude at tiger stadium that went over the railing and he he hung on by one arm, yeah, and people ended up pulling him up, but he went over and he grabbed it and he was strong enough to fucking one arm, like he was holding himself, and that was a big drop when you're scared shitless too, holy shit, yeah, wow, he went home a grateful man.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, hell yeah, july 4th 1999. Victoria Adams, posh Spice, married David Beckham. Let me see. July 4th 1990, paul Stanley from Kiss sustained neck and back injuries when he was involved in a car crash in New Jersey. Cause of the accident was Stanley had his window down and the stench from New Jersey was so strong he had to block his face from. He took his hands off the stand while to block his face from the stench in.
Speaker 3New.
Speaker 1Jersey and got into a car crash. That's what it says. I'm reading it. Well, you must have been driving on the turnpike. I don't know. I don't know. I just remember when I went to New Jersey, a buddy of mine picked me up and we were driving out to his place. He lived in one of those. What do they call them? Not a borough, it's a township Township.
Speaker 1New Jersey's loaded with townships. It is there is, yeah, and Winslow Township, I think it was, and that's down south of South Jersey. Yeah, and I swear there was three, four different odors by the time we got to his place. I don't believe that it smells. It smells. It's like New York is dirty. No, it's not, it is it's fucking dirty.
Speaker 3All cities are dirty.
Speaker 1No no.
Speaker 3No, boston's probably just as dirty.
Speaker 1Yeah, certain areas.
Speaker 3Portland's dirtier than all of them.
Speaker 1Yeah, oh, portland is. I had a dude that I was working with who voluntarily transferred to Portland with customs. I was like, dude, what are you? And he was a really nice guy he liked salmon?
Speaker 3I don't know.
Speaker 1I don't know, I don't know, but the dude that he swapped with was more than eager to get the fuck out of there and come to Florida. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3That's a place a lot of people in Asheville will ping pong between Boulder, Asheville, Portland.
Speaker 1Doesn't Portland have the most porn shops in the country?
Speaker 3I don't know, but there's a lot of street vomit.
Speaker 1A lot of street. Yeah, a lot of street there's a lot of junkies. Yeah yeah, a lot of street like a lot of hookers, A lot of junkies. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a place like Albuquerque. That's kind of a place you go to just drop out. Really, yeah yeah, albuquerque is one of those cities, man, people just go there. Nobody bothers anybody, no one gives a shit about what you're doing, you know it's just like you go to a bar and you make friends, but you don't really know them.
Speaker 3The Southwest has no appeal for me at all. No, it was an interesting place to live for two years.
Speaker 1You have the different seasons Summer it's fucking hot, and then you get dust storms. In the winter, it's nice and brisk and you can get really cold, not really cold.
Speaker 4Where were you?
Speaker 1I was in Albuquerque. Albuquerque, okay yeah, and you're in the valley, right. So you see the mountains and you see in the summertime though it is pretty ominous you watch the thunderheads come up over the mountain and they start to form, and then they start to just kind of swoop down. It is pretty cool.
Speaker 3That's cool. Yeah, where I live in the mountains, I've never heard certain types of thunder. You don't hear where we're from, right, but it's ominous. But one time I said, what is that? It sounded like an earthquake. It just came up through the valleys. I'm like, here we go.
Speaker 1Some big lightning shows there too.
Farm Aid and Beatles Controversy
Speaker 1Sure, that's kind of big sky area and yeah, Albuquerque was an interesting place. Man Interesting place. That place, man Interesting place, that's the ABQ. Yeah, it's not like it used to be, though. We were there when it was good, Just like when we were in Southern California and Northern California. It was really good. There was no nothing crazy going on, there was no activism or anything. It was just fucking cool. You know, July 4th 1986, the second Farm Aid benefit concert took place at Manor Downs Racetrack in Manor, Texas. Willie Nelson, John Mellencamp and Neil Young right, they were the organizers. The artists that appeared there were Alabama, the Nelson, the Nelson, John Mellencamp, not the Nelsons, no, just the Nelson, that was Rick.
Speaker 1Nelson's kids, right? I don't know, that was just Nelson, right? Yeah, john Mellencamp, you never know. John Mellencamp and Neil Young, right? Alabama, the Beach Boys, bob Dylan, steve Earle, the Fabulous Thunderbirds, emmylou Harris, jason and the Scorchers, waylon Jennings, george Jones, bon Jovi, john Mellencamp, tom Petty, vince Neal and Willie Nelson.
Speaker 3The fuck is Vince Neal doing there?
Speaker 1He had a solo thing he was trying to be like David.
Speaker 3Lee Roth. Yeah, I don't know. Farming was something I never really cared about too much. I like the idea.
Speaker 1I didn't either.
Speaker 3I like the idea, but I'm like Mellencamp, I don't know if I really see him. Well, even Willie Nelson is great, as he was. You know I could. I don't know. I never found the line of Neil Young. I've seen him, yeah. No, it never felt compelled to see him after seeing him one time. Some people would not like that.
Speaker 1But yeah, I saw Mellencamp once at the um in Hollywood, california. I was there. A buddy of mine won two tickets and he took me to a kid I was stationed with and he took me and he was on stage with Michelle Indigacello, yeah, playing bass. They had done a song together that year. What was the big?
Speaker 4night.
Speaker 1Funky Night or something. Wild Nights, wild Nights, yeah yeah. It was pretty cool. It was pretty cool to see them Saw a couple other acts there. It was really like to see how they did it. I think they did. A Lifetime Achievement Award to Richard Roundtree.
Speaker 3Right, yeah, that was pretty cool to see.
Speaker 1You know, I think maybe Arsenio Hall hosted it. I think at the time it was pretty cool, it was pretty cool. It was pretty cool. Let me see. July 4th 1973. Slade drummer Don Powell was badly injured in a car crash which killed his girlfriend. July 4th 1969. That dude Janis Joplin, led Zeppelin, johnny Winter, delaney and Barney Creedence, clearwater Revival, canned Heat. I'm going down to the country Going to find my way. Hippie Fest, joe Cocker, blood Sweat and Tears, chuck Berry, spirit Chicago and Paul Butterfield all appeared at the two-day Atlanta Pop Festival in Byron, georgia.
Speaker 3Cool, that's a pretty cool lineup.
Speaker 1I would have loved this in spirit. This one is pretty great. This is pretty great. So, july 4th 1966, the Beatles played two shows at Rizal Memorial Football Stadium in Manila, in the Philippines. Oh, yeah 80,000 fans. 80,000 fans, 80,000 fans.
Speaker 3That was 64 years, 66. So that was the last year of touring.
Speaker 1Yeah, the Beatles failed to appear at a palace reception hosted by Ferdinand Marcos and family and Imelda, who were not informed that the Beatles had declined their invitation. Yep, that dude must have got decapitated for not passing that message. I'm not telling him. Fuck that I ain't telling him.
Speaker 3Are you going to go into the story?
Speaker 1Well, the Philippine media misrepresent this as a deliberate snub, and when Brian Epstein tries to make a televised statement, his comments are disrupted by static. The next day, the Beatles make their way to the airport and they were greeted by angry mobs. The Philippine government had retaliated by refusing police protection for the Beatles.
Speaker 3They almost didn't make it out, man.
Speaker 1The original thriller in vanilla.
Speaker 3Yeah, right, in the Beatle books when they describe it. It's terrifying.
Speaker 1They had no protection. I'm sure it was insane right In the Beatle books when they describe it, it's terrifying.
Speaker 4Oh, I'm sure it was insane.
Speaker 1I'm sure it was insane, yeah.
Speaker 3Should have just fucking went. That was 66. How long were the Marcos's in power?
Speaker 1Well until. What was going on when you were there.
Speaker 1So if you see what I posted today on Facebook, we had a tv channel on on the base called far east network, fen, or we called it forced entertainment network like you get off work of a midnight shift and you go back to the dorm, you turn on the tv and you got the today show, but it should have been called the yesterday show because we were seeing deborah novel show. That was yesterday, yeah, and then it was showed the next day and we're 12 hours ahead, right, but 12 or 13, depending on daylight savings. So that's when I first fell in love with Debra Norville. What a that just timeless beauty. That girl, golden girl, yeah, oh my God, she just still looked good. Still looks good today Is she still on the news.
Speaker 1Debra Norville. No, so you'll see it. And there was a coup attempt when I was there. They tried to overthrow.
Speaker 3Corazon Aquino. That was their keynote, okay.
Speaker 1So it was kind of crazy man. It's fucking crazy.
Speaker 3The base gets shut down. Wasn't he assassinated?
Speaker 1No, no, that was her husband.
Speaker 3That's right.
Speaker 1That was her husband.
Speaker 3Benny or something what was his name. It was like Benito, wasn't it yeah?
Speaker 1Benito, no, benito Aquino or something. Yeah, it was something like that.
Speaker 3He was killed in the airport, wasn't he? Well, they told him.
Speaker 1don't get off the plane Because as soon as you set foot, they said. They told him as soon as you set foot on the tarmac, you're going to get killed. He got picked off right away didn't he? He fucking stepped onto the tarmac and got shot.
Speaker 3Was it a close-up thing or was it a sniper?
Speaker 1That was right there.
Speaker 3So there was an entourage of military something. Fucking idiot. It was an assassination squad.
Speaker 1It was assassinated. Yeah, they were gonna get him no matter what, damn you know. Um, so the base gets shut down and it's fucking chaos outside the base, right, and uh, I had saw, I had seen some of the uh, the f4s that uh would, they would, they were helping the philippine government and because the military was the one that was kind of overthrowing the government, a portion of the military, so you'd see it had bullet holes in it, like one of the couple of the jets. But one night I go out to post and I'm on a Priority A resource. So a Priority A resource is basically it was SATCOM satellite communication.
Speaker 1There was a wall around this whole facility and then there was probably about 50 yards of open field and it's like an L-shaped right. Then there's another wall and it comes to a corner right and we have a guard, the tower. We had a tower guard and then we have an alert team on vehicle right outside the gate, right, and inside that wall is all the satellite. It covers the whole Pacific region, right, it covers the whole Pacific region. And I get on post and all of a sudden I see this shadow, shadow up on the ridge, because there's people that lived up in these ridges.
Speaker 1But I see the shadow of this fucking, just a movement. There's a fucking movement there and it's the philippine military right and they're up on the fucking ridge and I'm like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, like what the fuck's going on here? But the corner we were on was dark, like the light didn't hit it, so I could sit in this little on the dock and just watch. As I call in, I go hey, the Philippine military is like 100 yards from me, I need a little help out here. And then throughout the night you watch their flag go from upside down. They didn't know which side they were backing. Wow, it's a really weird scene.
Speaker 3They were waiting on word to see which they were going to have to go.
Speaker 1Yeah, but with that said, mark's not here tonight. You just interrupted the show, hey.
Speaker 2It's, it's Jack Calabrese, jack.
Speaker 1What's up, buddy? What the fuck was that? What? Oh, look it. Jack comes back, all ready to go. He's got a green screen behind him with his painting of fucking. What's the dude that sings like this Tom Waits, tom Waits, look ats, look at Jack.
Speaker 3Look at.
Speaker 1Jack Came back high tech. He's drinking a fucking Corona in a can. What the fuck? Seltzer, yeah, can of the pussy, seltzer, pussy, it's Seltzer, yeah, yeah, yeah, what's up, buddy? How are?
Speaker 2you man, I'm good. Hey, how's it going, jack, where's. Yeah, what's up, buddy?
Speaker 4how are you, man? I'm good. Hey, where's mark tonight?
Speaker 1is he out seeing emerson lake and arnold palmer? He's good emerson lake drinking in alabama uh, uh, uh. No, he had. Uh, one of his friends is having emergency surgery, so he's being a good friend and oh man he's standing by his man, you know. So he dumped us.
Speaker 1Yeah, you know it was a good joke, yeah, yeah, yeah, so lou and I just we're talking about events that happen on the fourth of july. Since we won't be on next week, I will be in my home, away from home, saint augustine, enjoying the best beach in florida, uh so jack.
Speaker 3What is the water's green? The water's green up there, isn't it?
Speaker 1it's not clear, it's dark like it's, yeah, it's, it's a little dark, it's not, uh, it's not like dark dark, it's a, yeah, like a greenish color, but not that like caribbean green, right, not to be confused with caribbean queen, which jack is. So didn't take long, buddy, didn't take long really I I missed you, so jack, we just got done. Talking about the uh, the infamous fourth of july 1966 beatles in the philippines incident, the insanity that that ensued when they turned down for dan Margos, they snubbed the royal family. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1And they almost died for it.
Speaker 2That was a bad year. That was a bad year for them. Did they have to pay $20,000 in cash to get out of there?
Speaker 1That could be true. It doesn't say that, it just says on the way to the airport they were greeted by angry mobs. The Philippine government had retaliated by refusing police protection for the beatles. Now I had gone through. So after that coup attempt, lou in the philippines, um, I had, uh no, another coup attempt happened right before I left and so I'm PCSing and I chose to fly out of Manila, as Mr McClain, not go on a military airlift to get out of the country.
Speaker 1So I get a van, drives me down to Manila Airport, and it's a government van, right and Morale, welfare and Recreation says says yeah, we'll drive you and we get that in. The fucking place is chaos, right? This fucking graffiti against the government. The place is trash, they were rioting. And I'm like this is fucking weird too, because now I'm in this big blue van with government, the government license plates and on that we're at a red light, and I'm looking over one way and all of a sudden I hear this Like on my fucking window and I jump and it's some dude saying give me money, give me money, give me money. Just fucking move the van, go, go, go, get the fuck out of here. It was pretty hectic, yeah.
Speaker 3Let's see July 4th 1960. So the coups were quelled? Yeah, they were quelled, but there was a lot of fucking a lot of damage left behind People were killed.
4th of July Food Preferences
Speaker 1Yeah, july 4th 1964, the Beach Boys started two-week number one with I Get Around Right, yep, oh, jack, just in time, just in time, jack, on July, july 4th 1958, the everly brothers, the everly brothers, jack hey, I can fill the next 90 minutes talking about the everly brothers yeah, I love that. I love that episode. I will never forget that fucking episode. I will never forget that episode you know what?
Speaker 2I was trying to be informative for our listeners about the fucking Emily brothers, about, hey, you know what? Sometimes you need to go back and establish some foundational knowledge which to build off.
Speaker 1You're not talking to a fucking bunch of insurance salesman in fucking Wyoming.
Speaker 2Okay, buddy, I have to tell you you're talking to me and the you.
Speaker 1I've had enough.
Speaker 2You're talking to me and the professor here. I've had enough of doing that.
Speaker 1I bet you have, man. You've been on a fucking tear lately, yeah.
Speaker 3How long are you home for?
Speaker 2It's all good man, I'm home for a little while. Home for a little while Got a couple of shows. Actually, we've been going to a bunch of shows, a lot of music happening in the Calabrese household.
Speaker 1I love the fact that you look like you're glitching like Max Headroom.
Speaker 2I know.
Speaker 1So evidently Jack hasn't tuned up his computer to this show. I'm going to jump back in. Yeah, you do that. Take your time.
Speaker 2What.
Speaker 1Take your time, take your time, take your time, take your time. There you go. No rush, jack, no rush. Oh, my brother says love these stories. Thanks for your service, brother. Yeah, there's a lot of those stories. Two years worth of stories, that's for damn sure. At least over there, yeah, the Everly Brothers held the UK number one position with All I have to Do is Dream oh, let's see. Then Born on this Day. We already did all the Borns. You know what we're going to do right now. Lou, you make the call. Yeah.
Speaker 3You make the call.
Speaker 1You make the call. Let's see, make the call. You make the call. Let's see. You know what? Let me see Jack will be back. For that He'll be back, let's go. Yeah, you make the call.
Speaker 3Hey.
Speaker 1Enough of that. We'll wait for Jack to come back In the meantime, uh.
Speaker 3I got a 4th of July question for you. Ask away, buddy, on average, how many hot dogs are eaten by Americans on the 4th of July?
Speaker 1Oh, okay, okay, so you figure, there's what is there? 160 million people in America roughly Does that sound about right Is there About 160, 150, yeah.
Speaker 3I thought there was a couple billion at this point. Billion, I thought it was like China at this point.
Speaker 1Is it? It could be 180 million. I'm not sure that might be a fair estimate. While we're waiting for Jack, let's do some research here and say I've been missing phone calls. Whoops, let's see I have to. I'm going to send a text.
Speaker 3Population of 300. It's all threes as of 2022, $333.3 million. How many? $333.3 million I missed your call Vegetarians don't count, so those not dogs don't count. As far as I'm concerned, these things are plastic.
Speaker 1I'm doing my they stay with you forever. So if there's 300, 300, whatever Doing my live stream music podcast, I would say hot dogs eaten 120 million not a bad guess 150 wow, that's probably counting all those sick people that do the competitive eating.
Speaker 3Have you ever done that? Have you ever been in a hot dog eating contest? So my daughter.
Speaker 1I have a picture of my daughter and she went with her now husband to Coney Island and she got into a hot dog eating contest with I don't know. It was probably at whatever the hot dog place there is. And there's a picture of her next to this big fat dude and she I don't know, I think she put down like seven hot dogs or something. That's impressive. I think she won. That's for novices.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, I did it at work one time and I got three. I didn't wet the buns, I didn't. No, no, no, no, you got to just I. I ate three really fast. I'm like I'm going to throw up. I felt sick. It was just too much too fast. But there's people like.
Speaker 1So I got these hot dogs. Do you know that song?
Speaker 3The Morning After.
Speaker 1There's got to be a morning after.
Speaker 3The guy that didn't do the. He's not doing it this year, the 4th of July. The guy that he's won. Yeah, Joey. He's dinner or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, joey dogs, I don't know his name anyway.
Speaker 1I mean, how does your digestive system handle that? My wife's explained it to me. Some the people like that have a low, like their stomach is lower. This it's a, it's a physiological thing, where the stomach is just set lower like kobayashi. That's why they can eat so much.
Speaker 3It's they, it's the way it sits, because our stomachs are really up here, yeah yeah, it's true, it's up here, it's not down. Stomachs are really up here.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's true, it's not down around our belly button but people have that lower, like the stomach is lowered and that kind of enables them to be able to do that shit do they know this or they just happen to? Stumble upon it. They figure it out.
Speaker 3I think, even still when you digest. I mean, how many hot dogs is the record? I don't know.
Speaker 1But my wife? What about the next day scenario? They always say these competitive.
Speaker 3Even still when you digest. I mean, how many hot dogs is the record?
Speaker 1I mean, I don't know, but my wife I'm talking about the next day scenario because you got to, all things must pass. Well, they always say these competitive eaters will say that they're like they won't eat, but they'll go to the bathroom like the whole next day. It's like, yeah, it all has to come out sometime.
Speaker 3It's like how Mark describes himself after St.
Speaker 1Paddy's Day when I was at K-9 in 2008,. I was at the K-9 Academy in Front.
Speaker 1Royal Virginia and I set up. There was a family whose house burned down and they had kids. So I'm at the training center, the law enforcement, the federal K-9 enforcement training center for US Customs and Border Protection, and so I got together together, I got all the classes together and I went down to this restaurant and I I set up a whole cheeseburger eating contest, right, and I could. They got like people from each class and it was a fundraiser and I was raising this money for this. We were we, but I put it together, put it uh, raise money for this family. We ended up making I don't a couple thousand dollars for them, but all of us stayed in the same. It was a motel at the time, right, and I don't know the winner ate like I don't know, it was like 10 cheeseburgers. They were big ones Like these weren't like little McDonald's cheeseburgers.
Speaker 1These were like quarter of a a, and everybody afterwards went back to the, to the motel and literally that the within three hours that the toilets were all backed up. Three, four hours yeah, that's a lot of meat was consumed that day you know, I'm gonna go on without jack. Um, okay, uh, all right, you have to call lou. Okay, this motherfucker, he's, he is the, he is the fucking jack is the bane of my existence. What's up, buddy? Where tom waits, go where's tom waits you know what I think?
Speaker 2I think the latency that we were experiencing is because of the virtual background oh, oh.
Speaker 1Look at latency, look at Jack he's been doing his technical latency, I missed you.
Speaker 2There's still a little delay.
Speaker 1No, but not like it was. You're not Max Headroom. All right, jack, we'll start it off with you. Fourth of July, you make the call. All right, you make the call. Hamburger, not cheeseburger. Eddie Van Halen hamburger, hamburger or hot dog? Hot dog, jack, hot dog. There's no wrong answer. Lou, gotta go with the hamburger. There's more room to put why not cheeseburger?
Speaker 2why can't you not cheeseburger? Why can't?
Speaker 1you say cheeseburger, because everybody picks the cheeseburger. I have a method, I've got a fucking method.
Speaker 3I would choose a cheeseburger over a hot dog bro.
Speaker 1That's what I mean. Everybody picks a cheeseburger Jack. You know that, Fuck. You know what he said earlier, Lou the fuck.
Speaker 2The fuck Dickhead. Even when I was a little kid, hot dog it was always hot dog.
Speaker 3Really yeah, ketchup or mustard Both.
Speaker 2When I was a kid it was ketchup, but I'm not fucking five anymore. Right? Scott has heard me say this before. Look as an adult ketchup on a hot dog with mustard and relish and onions and all that stuff is fine, ketchup alone on a hot dog as an adult is a little fucked up.
Speaker 3It's a sign of arrested development or something. It's fucking good, that's like serial killer food.
Speaker 1It's a sign of arrested development or something.
Speaker 2It's fucking good. That's like serial killer food.
Speaker 1It's good the fuck the fuck.
Speaker 3So, Scott, do you forego? Do you forego?
Speaker 2Lou, think about this for a second. You're at a Fourth of July party and you look to the guy next to you and he's got a hot dog with just one line of fucking, actually just caked with ketchup on the top.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's it. It's got to be caked with ketchup.
Speaker 2Yeah, that guy's not right.
Speaker 3I would think it's odd. I would think it's odd, but it's been. Like I said, maybe it's been since I was say five that I had ketchup on a hot dog. I just, you know, mustard seems to be the way to go with any kind of sausage, but it's been forever. But you know, I got to play devil's advocate. I might like ketchup on a hot dog. Now ketchup is out of vogue. Now you know that right. Ketchup is not popular anymore.
Speaker 4I don't care, I don't either.
Speaker 1I don't either. I don't go with the food trends.
Speaker 3I put ketchup on something at work and I'm getting these like oh, you know, Wait a minute, lou.
Speaker 1You say that Look where you live first of all Fucking. Look where you live, lou.
Speaker 3What do you mean I don't get it. What do you mean? That's not apropos Wait a minute.
Speaker 2Wait a minute.
Speaker 3It was organic ketchup. It was organic. What you're saying, that ketchup is out of vogue. Now, yeah, I've been hearing things, yeah, in asheville or like well, I think a lot of serious foodies are like that.
Speaker 2Well, I mean, have you ever seen have you ever seen how much sugar is in a bottle of ketchup?
Speaker 3I buy stuff. I buy stuff that doesn't have, that doesn't got the fructose corn syrup. It's why I love it it's terrible.
Speaker 1yep, the only thing it's missing is MSG. Put some MSG in there and I'm in fucking heaven.
Speaker 3There you go See you're a proponent of high fructose corn syrup.
Speaker 1And my blood work is always perfect, so I can be I find it too, your blood work is high fructose corn syrup.
Speaker 2There you go, Wait, wait, wait wait.
Speaker 3First Mark.
Speaker 1Flynn, talking about hamburger without cheese is like kissing your sister. Then he says ketchup on a hot dog is a New England tradition. Then the other, mark Mark Talent, comes in and says who the fuck is that? I don't know. This guy's new, he's auditioning.
Speaker 2So, just while we're on the topic of hot dogs, I would always come home and I would always make two, and I would do one dog with ketchup, mustard, relish, onions and sriracha, and the other hot dog would be completely plain.
Speaker 1Really, Really, you know what I would do. I would get bologna sandwiches, just bologna sandwiches, and a glass of milk and I dip it in milk.
Speaker 2I love it when was the last time you've done that?
Speaker 1I haven't had bologna because I'm rich now, so I don't really eat bologna anymore you know what I I?
Speaker 4don't care if I was now I?
Speaker 2I wouldn't care if I had Jeff Bezos money, I would still eat bologna.
Speaker 1I don't know. My brother Colin, fucking loves that shit Like that is his staple. Loves fucking bologna man.
Speaker 2Or the Italian bologna, the mortadella.
Speaker 1And then you get Mark Tal, dude bro, devil's ham, deviled ham. So okay, let's have a little bit of discussion about deviled ham here never had it uh. Deviled ham is a poor man's tuna. That's all that shit is it's like spam fucking poor man's tuna it's it's jack, do you put? Mayonnaise in devil ham or not?
Speaker 2that's the question oh god, I'm right. It's been so long. Right, you're talking about the underwood devil deviled ham with the devil deviled him?
Speaker 1yeah, not, they came up with different can I ask just a general question?
Speaker 2yeah, we're gonna talk about music at all tonight I don't know.
Speaker 1It's fourth of july. Talk, let's move on. Okay, this is that. You make the call. You make the call. You make the call. Okay, jack, sausage or barbecued chicken. You're at a cookout. 4th of July, sausage or barbecued chicken.
Speaker 2Not most barbecues. For me it was both, but I would go sausage.
Speaker 1Sausage Lou, same sausage. You fucking guineas. Jesus Christ, fucking barbecued chicken all day, dude, that is so weird. Yeah, I'm not politically correct, so you already knew this, though, and Mark Flynn, you're all fucking wrong.
Speaker 3He didn't call us dagos.
Speaker 1No, no, okay, jack, you make the call Mac salad or mac and cheese Mac salad or mac and cheese Mac salad.
Speaker 2I don't generally see mac and cheese at a barbecue on the 4th of July, because you're white Because you're white, that's right, I'm white. Oh, my God.
Speaker 4You're from a very white neighborhood too.
Speaker 1When it snows, jack and his neighbors all go out. No one can.
Speaker 2It's they blend in with the snow, that's all white oh my god you can only tell the difference of the colors of their gloves you're telling me that if I eat mac and cheese at a fourth of july barbecue, it's cultural appropriation no, no, no, it's just you go to these very white barbecues, that don't.
Speaker 1We don't have mac and cheese at our barbecue.
Speaker 2We also don't have ketchup in our dogs.
Speaker 3Dover white.
Speaker 2All right, guys, I'm going to go watch the debate.
Speaker 1Why would you want to fucking put yourself through that number one? I have no intention, but go watch it, go watch it. All right, let me finish five songs, let's do five songs Southern Barbecue that's where I am.
Speaker 3It's mac and cheese is all over it. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2Look, just for the record, I would take a good mac and cheese over pasta, you know, or mac salad, whatever you call it any day, yeah, any day. By the way, most people don't know fucking how to make pasta salad no, you're right, you're right much too much mayonnaise it's too much fucking vinaigrette or whatever they put in it.
Speaker 1Yeah yeah, you're right, I give you that. I put shrimp in it.
Speaker 2Hey look, you guys are going to love my pasta salad. It's my grandmother's recipe. It's got raisins and Captain Crunch in it.
Speaker 4Yeah, marshmallows.
Speaker 1It's the new trend. Yeah, Mark Talens says love a good slaw. I love a good coleslaw, Absolutely.
Speaker 2I love. I would take coleslaw over mac and cheese. Good coleslaw.
Speaker 1I am a coleslaw connoisseur. Yeah, we grew up with good coleslaw, though, jack. We grew up with some good coleslaw in our plates.
Speaker 4Yeah, we did.
Speaker 2All right.
Speaker 1Apple pie or blueberry pie.
Speaker 2That's a tough one. I love them both.
Speaker 1Yeah, buddy.
Speaker 2I love them both. I think I would go apple.
Speaker 1Apple pie Blue Apple.
Speaker 3Got to go. Blueberry man. Blueberry's never been a favorite of mine. I love blueberry pie, blue Apple. Gotta go blueberry man. Blueberry's never been a favorite of mine.
Speaker 2I love blueberry pie, you fucking.
Speaker 4Italians are sticking together tonight.
Speaker 2Either of them has to be served warm if not hot, with a good scoop of ice cream on it. I don't know.
Speaker 1I don't need, like I like it, out of the refrigerator.
Speaker 4I don't have any problem with it.
Speaker 1Hot is good. There's no wrong answers here, uh mocktails is buff pie whoa now whoa now, but it's gotta
Speaker 4be warm and it's gonna be warm if it's cold you're in the graveyard buddy you're in the morgue or you're in the graveyard what are they doing?
Speaker 2if you're eating cold muff, you're also putting ketchup on your hot dog.
Speaker 1All right, Jack Lemonade or iced tea.
Speaker 2Lemonade.
Speaker 1Lou.
Speaker 3Lemonade.
Speaker 1Iced tea. What the fuck man I never liked iced tea.
Speaker 3I don't like sweet tea, don't care about it.
Speaker 1All right, jack, you make the call Steak or barbecue ribs, you're cooked out, it's a cookout.
Speaker 2Fourth of July. Can I ask a qualifying question? Yeah, yeah, who's cooking? Am I cooking?
Speaker 1Lou's cooking. So we both don't know. There's no, we can't really tell.
Speaker 2Well, lou's in the south, then I would have to go ribs. Good choice man, good choice man, I do them good I would have to go lou.
Speaker 1What's your choice, lou? Ribs or steak, I'll take ribs ribs.
Speaker 2Your question is flawed oh, here we go.
Speaker 1Oh, this I did not miss, I did not miss this. Well, wait a minute.
Speaker 2You know it looks, you know steak, so are you talking filet? Are you talking?
Speaker 1you know, like all right, we'll say fucking steak tips, but lou doesn't know what steak tips are.
Speaker 3So yes, I do I don't know.
Speaker 1Do you know what steak tips are, in a sense of how we know them? Like it's a like it's a fucking thing on its own in Massachusetts and New England. It's its own world.
Speaker 2By the way, the other qualifying thing is up here in New England In terms of ribs. We have no fucking idea what we're doing. This is true, we have no idea what we're doing. I don't care. You can talk about Red Bones in Somerville or any of the other places. We don't have a fucking clue what we're doing in terms of ribs up here.
Speaker 1Dave Phillips, King of the 45, says steak tips and swordfish tips. What the fuck? Is swordfish tips. You cut it up into quarters and you fucking cook it. That's a tip. Get the fuck out of here, is there?
Speaker 3a part of the swordfish.
Speaker 1Mark Flynn says teriyaki steak tips are the best. I like them kind of when they soak in that Italian dressing. I like them kind of when they soak in that Italian dressing. That's not bad. All right, Jack, here we go. Music time. You make the call? Living in the USA or ROCK?
Speaker 4in the USA.
Speaker 2Fourth of July. I like them both. I would say ROCK in the USA because you have a recorder solo and it's a tribute to Harry Herodian.
Speaker 3There, you go.
Speaker 2Do you remember him? No, he was the music. He was the flute teacher.
Speaker 1Oh, our guy, that's right, harry Herodian, yeah, the flute teacher I heard the name and I'm trying to relate it to music. Where did I?
Speaker 2hear that Harry Herodian.
Speaker 1He was a Winthrop Public School legend. As we got older, we didn't appreciate him when we were younger. Now that we're gone, he was the flute teacher. Every year, every class went through flutes and the plastic flute. Anyway, living in the USA or ROCK in the USA, Cheeseburger.
Speaker 3Ah living in the USA.
Speaker 1I used to say I love Sika in the USA. I love Sika in the USA.
Speaker 2I love ROaker in the usa I love seaker in the usa. Come back to the 80s, you know ck in the usa no seaker.
Speaker 1You know, seaker is c-o-c-k, no s-e-k-a.
Speaker 3I love seaker in the usa, wasn't she swedish, yeah?
Speaker 1see you stay the porn legend porn. Not that I know these things. She only needed one name, let me see. She only needed one name. All right, jack, you make the call Living in America or America by Neil Diamond, living in America by James Brown or America by Neil Diamond.
Speaker 2I honestly don't like either of those songs that much. I don't either, I'm going to go Neil Diamond this time.
Speaker 3Come to America, come to America. We were born to be found. Did he make an Elvis-like video for that, I think he did.
Speaker 1Yeah, it was kind of Elvis, it was like a jumpsuit almost Luke.
Speaker 3what do you got? Which one I'll take? James Brown.
Speaker 1I got to go with James Brown.
Speaker 3I don't like that song Don't blame me guys.
Speaker 1Because Neil Diamond, is that one's too. Like you know, when these singers go out of their way to be patriotic, it's just like it's so up front in your face. I like James Brown, I feel good.
Speaker 3Because I'm proud to be an American.
Speaker 1All right, jack. This is going to bring back some memories, I guess for Lou too. But make the call, jack. You make the call Kim Wilde Kids in America, who was a fucking hottie.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, kim Wilde Exactly.
Speaker 1Or Pink Hoses.
Speaker 2Kim Wilde.
Speaker 4We're the Kids in.
Speaker 2America, both good songs.
Speaker 1We're the Kids in America. Yeah, yeah, lou, I'll take Kim Wilde. I got to go with Kim Wilde too. I got her 45 somewhere and I came across it and I was like good song, yep, she was fucking hot.
Speaker 1yeah, that was a good looking woman right there, and it's a good song well produced, well produced song yeah, all right, jack, you make the call surfing in the usa or surfing usa. Or take me home country road surfing usa or surfing usa. For me lou john denver. Or Take Me Home Country Road Surfing USA or Take Me Home Country Road.
Speaker 2Surfing USA for me.
Speaker 3Lou John Denver.
Speaker 1I got to go and I wrote I put this together. This one's a tough one for me. I'll go. I just like the John Denver song. It brings back better memories 70s, you know, junior high, great times. Summers were long, you know, and I was never into the. I like surfing USA, I like the Beach Boys, but Take Me Home Country. Road just has more memories behind it.
Speaker 2And it's still a good song. Chuck Berry sued them for yeah, right that song.
Speaker 1That's right, that's right jack infamously got punked, which is an honor I I I wish I could say that I got punked by chuck berry, that's like pushed by a 75 yearyear-old Chuck Berry Punked me Just totally fucking disrespected me, punked me, fucking, shoved me. That's an honor. That's almost as good as having Bono's balls on the back of your neck.
Speaker 2I know you were on stage desperately trying to turn him around.
Speaker 3Like an owl, can turn your head around.
Speaker 1Imagine if somebody did that to try to spin him and he's like what the?
Speaker 3fuck.
Speaker 2Stop, dude. You so desperately wanted to go, you too. Look at him.
Speaker 1All right, last one, last one.
Speaker 3How come Chuck Berry punctured? Did he take a picture of you in his bathroom In his restaurant.
Speaker 4Tell the story, Josh.
Speaker 2We've told the story many times, but I was just trying to show my admiration for him and I bet you know I won't bore you with the whole long story. I basically wanted to say I said, mr berry, I was like where were you?
Speaker 1tell people where you were like?
Speaker 2I was. I was in uh, northampton, massachusetts. I had driven three plus hours to go and see him and I waited out. I actually left the show a little bit early at the chance that I might be able to meet him and hung out at the backstage door with my camera. There were two idiots in front of me that had gibson guitars that they were hoping he would sign and he wouldn't sign either of them. And he came to me and I had. I had my 35 millimeter camera and I said mr barry, I've always been a fan of yours. Would you mind if I took a picture of you? And he said you can take it, but I ain't posing for it. And he pushed me out of the way and jumped in his car.
Speaker 2You didn't get a quick turnaround flash. I get a blurry hand.
Speaker 3But he touched you.
Speaker 1That's great. I would have that blown up. That would be at least an 11 17 on my fucking wall just the story behind it is fucking great. All right, here we go. This is the big one. This is the big one. Gentlemen, this is the last one of you make the call and, jack, you can go waste time on that debate. Uh, all right, jack, you make the call. There the call. There's a lot riding on this.
Speaker 2Yeah, can we get to it?
Speaker 1What the fuck? The only thing I'm not doing is the fucking dramatic pause. Come on, you know we got to build these things up, Jack.
Speaker 2Well, you know what? And you?
Speaker 1delay it even more by doing what you're doing, see, you make it hard on everybody. You always do, jack. It's always your fault.
Speaker 2I'm sorry everybody.
Speaker 1Thanks for coming on the show and ruining it.
Speaker 2I'm doing my best. I'm out of practice. I haven't been on the call yet.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's right, damn right. Okay, jack, here you go. You make the call America the beautiful, america the beautiful, or God bless America the Beautiful or God Bless America, america the Beautiful or God.
Speaker 2Bless America. I'm going to go with God. Bless America.
Speaker 1Okay, all right, there's no wrong answers here no Lou. America the Beautiful, I have to go with. I think America the Beautiful is a better song.
Speaker 2I just think it's a better song. They're both really great. They're anthem-ish, very anthem-ish, but Both of them are better than the Star Spangled Banner.
Speaker 1That's why I didn't put it in there. Yeah, Star Spangled.
Speaker 2Banner like. I've heard that song like a million times. The fuck it's good have you ever done research like can you play clips of music on the show?
Speaker 1so I don't get in any trouble on the podcast platforms. I don't. It's always the youtube thing.
Speaker 4They don't they don't give me a.
Speaker 1They don't give me a check, like they don't give me an x or whatever they call it. They, they just say copyright, and that portion of the video will be blocked out.
Speaker 2You can't even play like 20 seconds of it. I think there's a caveat.
Speaker 3If you talk over it, you can claim it's for educational purposes. So if it's a music discussion show, we've done that. We've gotten blocked. You two took the show off, or two If you play a clip, I think. If so, we've done that. We've gotten blocked.
Speaker 4You two took the show off or two.
Speaker 3Yeah, if you play a clip, I think if you do 15 seconds or more than 15 seconds, you're in trouble. But if you talk over and kind of explain, you can get around that by saying it's for educational purposes.
Speaker 1What are you looking for?
Speaker 2Jack, I would so badly love for you to be able to play, I don't know why. I was driving the other day and and I heard this song and I and I have to tell you that I think that there there's a an episode, or at least a portion of an episode, where we should talk about the worst guitar solos ever in in a song. And the thing that prompted me have you ever listened to the guitar solo of the doors? Love her madly, uh.
Speaker 4I'm sure we have. You know what?
Speaker 2I love the doors. I thought Robbie Creaky was a decent guitar player, but that guitar solo is horrendously bad. Can you, can you, can you? Go to the solo.
Speaker 3But if you listen to the drum, but he's playing eighth notes on the cymbals, that's a keyboard solo. I know Lou.
Speaker 2I think you've gone past it.
Speaker 1I think yeah, maybe keep going well, the keyboard thing is coming up right now.
Speaker 2Now it's the keyboard yeah, I think it's the keyboard.
Speaker 1Yeah, I think it's before that, Scott.
Speaker 2Well, this is only a minute into the song, so Well, how long is that song? It's not very long, is it Two?
Speaker 1minutes. Two minutes, uh, three minutes. All right, see if you can find it. I think it's beyond this. Okay, let's see. Should be coming up right after this, I think. I think it should be coming up right here.
Speaker 2Should we still be talking over this?
Speaker 1Yeah, let's kind of just see where it goes. I think this is it right here We'll see. Here we go One, two, three.
Speaker 3Is that your bass player? That is the end. Yeah, here it is. Here it is yeah.
Speaker 1It's just a little picking thing. Yeah, it's like he's just, he's just picking that's.
Speaker 2Yeah, that is far from a guitar solo I listened to that, I was like, you know, I don't know why I never picked up on it.
Speaker 1I was like, but this is, he was dead lazy on this, dead lazy so what youtube will do just now is they will block out that the last two minutes of that, so yeah, but that's a lazy guitar, so the point was proven while we're talking about the things, that was subpar I, I tried to get myself to listen to Van Halen 3.
Speaker 2The Gary Cherone record? Oh no, no. Why, why, why, why right I was like you know what, I was trying to be optimistic. I was like there's got to be something there. And you know what?
Speaker 3There's not, no no, I remember the first song that they released.
Speaker 2It was unlistenable. Yeah, that that record is is really, really bad yeah, mark defends it on the ground.
Speaker 3He calls it a uh, eddie van halen solo record, basically, but he ain't singing on it like that, no you know what I?
Speaker 2I actually like a couple of extreme songs and, being from Boston, you want to pull for the local boys or whatnot. But I don't think Gary Cherone is a particularly good singer.
Speaker 1No, he's average at best, right.
Speaker 2I think he has limited range and I think he forces it. He's too over the top.
Speaker 1Yeah, hey, I'm going to give us the top 10 songs of the week of July 4th in 1976. That's a big 4th of July year that was the bicentennial right. So give me a song from 76, jackaloo. Let me see if you can. I mean, I know that's a pretty broad fucking question to ask.
Speaker 2I don't know, philadelphia Freedom.
Speaker 1It's not on here. No, let me see. Look at Marie Martin. I'm glad she came in. She goes. I thought you all wrapped it up early for the debate. Now I'm not watching that fucking thing.
Speaker 3Will you shut up, man, I'm not watching that fucking thing.
Speaker 4Will you shut up, man, I'm not going to fall into it.
Speaker 1I'm not falling into any of that. I'm just not going to fall into any of it. All right, number 10 this week, on July 4th 1976. Number 10 is Fly Robin Fly. Who sang it? Jack? Fly Robin Fly oh shit. Yep, yep, yep, you're close. Nope, yep Silver. I can't remember Silver Convention, the Silver Convention.
Speaker 3You were right there.
Speaker 1You started with the silver. I know you knew it, but you just couldn't pull it out of your ass.
Speaker 4Number nine this week.
Speaker 1Number nine this week on July 4th 1976. I Love Music, part one, lou who sang it?
Speaker 3I Love Music. Is that the OJs? There you go.
Speaker 1There you go, all right. Number eight this week in 1970. Oh, on the 4th of July in 1976. That's the way I like it. Kc and the Sunshine Band. That's the way I like it. Casey and the sunshine band. That one's easy A number seven this week, on the 4th of July in 1976.
Speaker 2There's gotta, there's gotta, there's gotta be a way by sweet sweet Yep yeah.
Speaker 1What do you say?
Speaker 2There's gotta be, there's gotta there's gotta be a Paul McCartney and Wings in there somewhere, right?
Speaker 1I don't know let's do the top ten All right. Number six this week in 1976, on July 4th 1976. Convoy CW McCall.
Speaker 4CW McCall.
Speaker 1Yep Number five this week on. July 4th 1976. Let's do it again. Who sang it? Jack?
Speaker 2Isaac Hayes no wait wait, wait wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 3Curtis mayfield nope, lou.
Speaker 1I'm trying to recall the song let's do it again I can't I can't recall that the staple singers oh yeah, let's do it again all right. I believe that was the theme song from the movie. Let's do it again with sydney portier and Bill Cosby. I believe that was it. I want some sleepy jello. Number four this week on July, not this week. Number four on July 4th, 1976. Love, rollercoaster Shay. What Love the Ohio players? Fucking love the Ohio players, very underrated in the funk world. Rollercoaster Yep, that's right. And then those fucking idiots. I fucking love the.
Speaker 1Ohio players Very underrated in the funk world Rona Kosta. Yep that's right. And then those fucking idiots, those idiots, red Hot, fucking Chili Peppers tried to. They tried to, they did the remake.
Speaker 2They did a terrible job.
Speaker 1They did terrible everything. You're not a.
Speaker 2Chili Peppers fan at all.
Speaker 1No, I told you, I went to see the Stones at the Rose Bowl for the Voodoo Lounge Tour and the Red Hot Chili Peppers backed them up at the Rose Bowl. I was like I'm fucking staying in the fucking parking lot. I wouldn't go see them. I just don't like them. Don't like them. It's not that they're overrated, Wait a minute.
Speaker 4You don't like you don't like any of their songs. Wait a minute. You don't like any of their songs at all, none of them.
Speaker 1Uh, I do like um scott tissue with the things I saw, sunglasses to know it all. I like that song. I used to like that. Good setup, buddy, good setup, uh. Number three on july wait a minute.
Speaker 2So wait a minute. It was their version of love. Roller coaster was a bit of a disaster, but but what about their version of higher ground?
Speaker 1nope oh, I love that version yeah, I, I don't. I just don't like them. I just don't like this style. I think they're overrated. I think they were just a. They put on a. I think they put on a great show. They put on a great act. They're very kind of odd-looking in the way they present themselves and the whole stage. I just don't think musically they're that fucking talented.
Speaker 3Flea is a great bass player. I think they're a good musician.
Speaker 1Maybe you just don't like the combination of them. No, I don't like the style. I just don't like their style Walking down the street. Now, if Anthony Kiedis wasn't the lead singer and they had a fucking good lead singer, then it might be different, but I think he's a fucking clown. He's just a fucking clown Tries to be this walking down the street looking at my feet. What we're going to do? I'm going to walk into the beach.
Speaker 4Shut the fuck up you know gonna do him a walk into the beach shut the fuck up, you know, it's just.
Speaker 1I mean, I just don't like his song again. If they had a different lead singer, I probably would look at them differently, but I think he fucks the whole band up. Flea is a brilliant bass player, you know. And uh, the dude that did talladega nights is a great, great drummer.
Speaker 2What about Under the Bridge? No appreciation for that song.
Speaker 1I liked it initially and then I didn't. I like Scott Tissue. I like when he just Did you say Breaking the Girl.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2Lou, did you say Breaking the Girl?
Speaker 3I did, I did. I think that's a good song.
Speaker 2That's an awesome song. I, I did, I did. I think that's a good song. That's an awesome song. I love that song I agree. I'm not a fan, but I do like that one.
Speaker 2I'm not a huge fan. There are songs of theirs that I like. I like Breaking the Girl, I like Higher Ground. I like my Friends. There's a couple of their songs, but there's a couple of their songs that I do not like. And as they get older their songs tend to sound the same over and over again. You know scar tissue californication, you know that that kind of mid-tempo thing that they do, it just doesn't do it for me.
Speaker 1That's what I mean, buddy, that's I and I. I just did. Now, when give it away broke, the video was great, you know, the song was unique, it was very, it was different for its time and it really caught fire. And but then you know, you start hearing it over and over and over. Then you start hearing everything afterwards sounding like that. So let's get on to this Number three on July 4th 1976. Theme from Mahogany, Diana Ross. That's a good fucking song. That's still a good song. Yeah, it's still a good song. It's one of those guilty pleasure songs. It's an absolute guilty pleasure song.
Speaker 3It's kind of been by Michael Jackson's like that with me I, I know that song.
Speaker 1I only liked it when it first came out, when I was a kid. Then I grew up. So talking about a rat, yeah, yeah, uh. Number two on july 4th 1976, uh, I write the songs. Barry manilow, another guilty pleasure song. But I would listen to theme from mahogany before I listened to you know who wrote that song?
Speaker 3it wasn't him, it was bruce john. You know who wrote that song? It wasn't him, it was Bruce Johnson of the Beach Boys. Yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, it wasn't him, and number one great song, a prom song for Nova Class of 81. Okay, what were you saying, jack? Nothing. Oh, okay, I thought you were going to say something. I thought you were interrupting me again. Uh, so anyways, uh, number one on july 4th 1976, the bay city rollers. Oh god, saturday night yeah, g-u-r-d-a-y I thought that that was more like 75, 74, like I didn't think that was up in 76 charlie put on the bay city rollers all right. Well, you know what?
Speaker 3we were just, we were just plaid to be there yeah, just plaid to be, plaid to be alive.
Speaker 1Bay city rolls were just plaid to be alive.
Speaker 3The.
Speaker 1Bay City Rollers were just plaid to be there. Okay, jack, do you have headphones on?
Speaker 3Jack's watching the debate.
Speaker 1He's watching the debate? No, I'm not. I didn't think so.
Speaker 2I'm not watching the debate man you are.
Speaker 1You can't help yourself. You love to torture yourself for that shit. No, I'm not watching the debate, man, I'm not watching the debate, man you are.
Speaker 2You can't help yourself. You love to torture yourself with that shit. No, I'm not watching the debate, man. I'm not. I ain't watching the debate, we're coming up on two hours.
Speaker 1There's a lot more we could have talked about, but I'm just going to kind of call this a 4th of July. We would have been way ahead of time if Jack didn't come on. I'll just tell you that. Can I ask Jack?
Speaker 3a question.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, ask. Away.
Speaker 3Jack on the 4th of July. About how many hot dogs do Americans eat on the 4th of July?
Speaker 2Oh my God, millions.
Speaker 1It isn't the millions, it isn't the millions, I would say 8.5 million oh no, no, way, way, way more I was close Scott was close.
Speaker 3What was the number that you said, scott, 30 million.
Speaker 1I said 120 million and I'm not going to tell you if I was high or low. I'm going to say that it's around 100, 150 million, 150 million hot dogs, how many?
Speaker 3how many think I'm catching up on them?
Speaker 4in one way or another they have ketchup on them one way or another.
Speaker 1no, they have ketchup on them one way or another. No, they don't. Yes, they do, yes, they do. You can't tell me not.
Speaker 3Do you like mustard on a hamburger?
Speaker 1Lou is going to eat a hot dog on the 4th of July with nothing on it. Just to say, it's actually 149,999,999 with ketchup.
Speaker 3Now, relish, is it sweet relish or dill relish? It's always got to be sweet, sweet.
Speaker 1But there is also hot dog relish. That's a whole different relish. Hot dog relish is kind of a combination of mustard and relish. So there is, and then there's piccadilly. Do you ever put piccadilly on a hot dog? No, I've not. There's piccadilly. Do you have a piccadilly on a hot dog? No, I've not, I like all right, I'm gonna give you the fucking home run of condiments to put on a hot dog now. When I first was introduced to this, it was by start paying attention.
Speaker 1You guys, I'm buying bob moore tickets the one thing if you've never tried it, you have to try it on a hot dog. I'm telling you, my step kids fucking fell in love with it. My kids fell in love with, I fell in love with it. Is it like chutney? No, no, pineapple jelly oh, I'm telling you nope, nope, nope, don, nope, don't doubt it, do not doubt it.
Speaker 3I'm telling you Hard not to doubt that.
Speaker 1That's what I thought until they were presented to us, my wife and my kids, our landlord when we were living in Hollywood Wonderful lady, colombian lawyer. She had a beautiful house. She invited us. We were good tenants, we became friends. She invited us to go down to the pool she had a whole thing and she puts out this tray of hot dogs with the pineapple jelly on it. We just looked at each other like, oh shit, we got to eat this and I was like eat it, eat it. And we all took a bite and it was like this shit's good, like this shit's good, don't sleep on it. It is.
Speaker 3And if you flatten that hot dog, out with the pineapple you just put it on the pizza, you know.
Speaker 4I could do that too, but I'm telling you, do not sleep on pineapple jelly on a hot dog.
Speaker 1I'm telling you, dude.
Speaker 2I don't even know where to get pineapple jelly.
Speaker 1You get it in the jelly section.
Speaker 2Idiot, I don't remember ever seeing pineapple jelly you get it in the jelly section, idiot.
Speaker 1I don't remember ever seeing pineapple, jelly Pineapple jelly, don't tell me that's only in Florida you can get it, because you don't look for it. That's why you don't know it's there.
Speaker 3I don't know, I don't know about that.
Speaker 1I'll look in the specialty section somewhere. No, it was right there. Next to the jelly, the, I mean the grape, the strawberry I don't remember schmuckers pineapple jelly with a name like schmuckers yeah, all right. Well, listen, I'm gonna wrap this up. We're at two hours I I've had enough, but I did three interviews in the last three days, so I've been fucking in front of a microphone a lot this week, did three interviews, jack, jack.
Speaker 2I can't believe you're wrapping this show up. You're getting lazy. You're getting lazy. All right, you want to put the cards on the table.
Speaker 1You want to put the cards on the table, asshole. I saw you yawn, so I'm doing you a fucking favor. I watched you fucking yawn and I'm like Jack's tired I know he works a long day.
Speaker 2It had nothing to do with me. It had a lot to do with me. You know what? Let's wrap it up.
Speaker 1We're coming up on two hours. I'm doing you a favor. I love you, buddy, I love you like a brother. I'm trying to do you favor and you fuck yeah, and you dog me, you insult me and you I act like I don't see it, but you yawned on my show and I fucking have to help you out and say we're gonna end this and jack's like oh you're a pussy the fuck.
Speaker 2So you're trying to do your favor you're getting emotional. You're getting. You're getting very emotional over I think you should calm down. For a glass of warm milk, have a peanut butter and pineapple jelly sandwich.
Speaker 1Lou, when Jack's not on the show do I ever get like really like fucking out of control, like I am now see what you do to me.
Speaker 3You're a fucking trigger.
Speaker 1That's what you are. You're a trigger in my life did you just call me?
Speaker 2did you just call me? Did you just call me the t-word?
Speaker 1I'm not watching the debate, by the way, I don't think you know, biden had to practice standing for 90 minutes. That was part of his warm-up for this fucking debate. He this is true, he literally practiced standing for 90 minutes. So good luck, gentlemen, good luck.
Speaker 2Guys, good seeing you. Jack, I love you. Buddy, Thank you for coming on. You extended the show.
Speaker 1No, you cut a lot of our content. Where are you seeing Bob?
Speaker 3Mould. What's that? Where's Jack? Where are you seeing Bob Mould?
Speaker 23S Odd Space in Portsmouth, new Hampshire. It's literally 13 minutes from my house, excellent.
Speaker 1Cool Jack, you never got a chance to give us a rundown of the music that you said. There's been plenty of concerts and stuff going on. Give us a rundown of what you've been doing.
Concerts, Car Accidents, and LinkedIn
Speaker 2So you probably don't remember this band, but they were a big techno band in the early 80s called Miracle Legion. Have you heard of those guys? No, no, 80s called Miracle. Legion have you heard of those guys. No, no, Worth checking out. I think that you'd actually like them. But then, in addition to that so that was last Thursday we saw them at 3S in Portsmouth. But then Friday, Deb and I went up to Portland and we saw Nation of Language for the second time. They were fantastic.
Speaker 1Second time? Yeah, in a month. Second time in a month, right in a time. They were fantastic.
Speaker 2Second time, yeah, in a month. Second time in a month, right, Second time in like three weeks, but we're loaded in terms of concerts, money Jack's loaded, by the way.
Speaker 1Don't let him fool. You Go on. Don't let him fool you, it's seltzer. I'm poor. Trust me, I'm poor. Go on, go on. So you saw that, you saw them.
Speaker 2Who else? We've got tickets to the Foo Fighters. We're going to the Pretenders at MGM. We're going to Pearl Jam. We're going to Sigur Rós, we're going to the Kings of Leon. We're just loaded.
Speaker 1The church played there last, I think Friday night. I wouldn't mind seeing the church played there last. Uh, I think Friday night they played. I wouldn't mind seeing the church. You would have loved them, dude. You really would have loved. They put on a great fucking show.
Speaker 2That's cool man.
Speaker 1Yeah, they were there Uh.
Speaker 4Tal actually is the one that told me about it.
Speaker 1Well, you know, you, you didn't miss you didn't take the fucking trip up there. I had shit to do anyways. But yeah all right yeah that's.
Speaker 4That's a good shave that's tough show.
Speaker 1That's all right. Why they just drag it out? They just weren't on their game, they were raw, there was no what?
Speaker 2um? They're definitely showing their rage, and ian mccullough does not have a voice anymore at all, and I think he was pretty bummed. To be honest with you, he was not drinking salsa.
Speaker 1Well, like I said, I'm glad I missed that fucking. I was ready to go and I was all. Then I'm like shit came up and that was that.
Speaker 2Every time I say that I'm going to slow down and not buy any more tickets. Like literally, while we were just babbling, I bought my Bob Mould tickets. But how could I not? They were $45.
Speaker 1So isn't the pendulum starting to swing back the other way? Now there's this big uprising about ticket prices and people are starting to get sick of it. I read something uh, well, I didn't read it. I saw a headline about this is the person responsible for all these giant ticket charges now?
Speaker 4and there's a whole thing going on with that I I forget the name it actually was on linkedin so I saw a.
Speaker 1uh, it was one of those. They actually have a pretty good news selection and you can get a lot of hot women too. Here we go. Lou's version of Plenty of Fish is LinkedIn. He only dates executives, though Nothing below the executive level.
Speaker 3I don't say I date them, I approach them, but I don't say I date them. He connects with them. He connects with them. It's all business.
Speaker 1Jack, are you on LinkedIn? Of course, Jack, you have to be right. Of course I am. Hey, let's connect. Hey, let's connect man yeah.
Speaker 2I'm definitely on LinkedIn.
Speaker 1You have to be with what you're doing. You got to be, I know.
Speaker 2I know.
Speaker 1I know the boring world of the insurance executive.
Speaker 2No, no, no. It's far from boring.
Speaker 1Oh, I know, but it's not as boring as Lou being the wine superhero. What was that whole costume that you had on?
Speaker 3That's the guy I work with. I got in that car accident. It was actually almost two years ago, so I remember saying to do these deliveries, I want body armor. So, he's been messing with all his AI. So I said, Andy, come up with a uniform. I said kind of like a stormtrooper thing. So it's, I have an armored Metro.
Speaker 1In a case of wine. Lou, you were in a car accident.
Speaker 3I was in a really weird car accident. It was two years ago and the. I was in a really weird car accident. It was two years ago in the main drag in Asheville, merriman Avenue. It runs down past the hospital. It's on both sides of the road Mission Hospital. I was doing delivery to a doctor on a side road and as I came out onto the main road I just got on the road and I heard tires squealing. Some old Toyota comes flying down the road at about 70 miles an hour. I brace for impact. It goes to my left, hits a car head-on, slams into me. I almost flipped the van. I was on both sides of the road. I was almost in two head-on collisions. I got up, pulled and then she backed up, hit another car and then hit a telephone pole, knocked the telephone pole down and took off.
Speaker 4The funny thing is Lou had just delivered a case of wine to her three hours earlier.
Speaker 1How ironic.
Speaker 3I wondering the fact that you were doing a wine delivery to a doctor. Yeah, I know, I know I was. I was wondering does he go to work that day after having a bottle of wine? But um, it's weird. So she got away and I mean it was, it was madness, and they never caught her. They never caught her. Two days later I was back. I could still drive the van, so it was messed up though. So two days later there's these three hotels and I got a look at the woman and I said, well, maybe she works at one of these hotels. Why would you think that?
Speaker 3Just out of curiosity, not being funny, I'm going to be real honest, I said I kind of did a profiling thing in a sense. She was Hispanic, about 40 years old. I said maybe she was rushing to get to work, right. Well, and plus this section of asheville, you, once it goes past the hospital, it's a quagmire, it's built more village. You can't go anywhere fast. So I said she couldn't have gone far. I'm saying I thought maybe she worked at, you know, at one of the house, one of the other hotels there. So two days later I'm back and there's a cluster of three hotels. I went to the furthest one, all the way in the back park and I see this beat-up white Toyota, the damage Detective.
Speaker 1Lou.
Speaker 3The damage consistent with what happened, and I saw a child car seat in the back and there's a pentagram hanging from the rearview mirror, so it was a devil-worshipping mama.
Speaker 1A devil-worshipping Latina mother.
Speaker 3I didn't. I said, well, maybe she works at the housekeeping staff, maybe she was late for work or something.
Speaker 1I don't know. And the fucking police never like.
Speaker 3I took pictures of the car and I called the police station. I said we have to email these to the officer that responded on the scene. I did and I didn't hear nothing. Nothing came back and you ruined her life.
Speaker 1You ruined her life. She's back in Nicaragua now fucking selling herself. Who her life. She's back in nicaragua now fucking selling herself.
Speaker 3Who knows nicaraguan fucking well I. I was picturing her just like maybe she could be late one more time, and then she just ran into the hotel looking at her watch. Yeah, yeah, not even caring about the car, and I'm gonna park it as far back in the corner as I possibly can so that sunday I had a rehearsal for there's a sunday rehearsal for my sunday morning gig and my all my chest muscles were all torn and just from ripping the you know moving the van, yeah I went to play some of the drums and I screamed so someone goes.
Speaker 3What's the matter? I said I was in a car accident and I said what happened. I said well. I said you know a car hit, she goes. Did you get a look at it? And I described. I said yeah. I said well, it's like was a Hispanic woman about her early 40s and she goes. Well, maybe she had a fight with her husband and walked away from me. That was pretty fucking cold.
Speaker 1But Lou went to play the drums and he went. Ah, ah, I went, ow, ow my chest.
Speaker 3Ow. And then I laid on the ground. Oh my muscles.
Speaker 1I laid on the ground. My muscles is torn.
Speaker 2It torn it's very important for a drummer to be able to use his muscles is torn. What's that I said?
Speaker 3I would imagine that must have been pretty goddamn painful, oh, my son had to wipe my ass for a couple days, all right you know what everybody thanks for listening, thanks for watching if you like it, share it if you didn.
Speaker 1Thanks for listening. Thanks for watching. If you like it, share it. If you didn't, thanks for watching. I'm not even going beyond that. Thanks for watching for two hours and nine minutes. I really appreciate time. I love Jack. Thank you for coming on, buddy, it's a great surprise when you pop in, lou, I will never look at you the same again. But as I say, and I'll say this with you, jack, thank you for your time, thank you for your knowledge and, most of all, guys, thank you for your friendship. That's what means the most to me.
Speaker 2Can you imagine Lou saying that to his son? I know that's not going to Son, come in here.
Speaker 3I need to see you. I'm almost done here.
Speaker 2Your shoes on.
Speaker 1I'm almost done If you like to share.
Speaker 4like I always say, doing this show for you.
Speaker 1To quote my favorite the pleasure, and the privilege is mine. We're off next week. We'll see you in two weeks. Goodbye everybody.
