Milk Crates and Turntables. A Music Discussion Podcast
Milk Crates and Turntables is a Music Discussion Podcast. Each week Scott chooses a different music topic and discuss and debate the good, the bad and the ugly side of that particular topic. Maybe you'll agree or maybe you'll disagree. Listen in and find out.
Milk Crates and Turntables. A Music Discussion Podcast
Ep. 159 - Lou's Brother And Exploring the Emotional Depths of Nick Cave and Other Great Music Info
What happens when a dare to perform in a red Speedo turns into a legendary band memory? In this milestone 100th episode of Milk Crates and Turntables, we trip down memory lane, discussing junior high dances, the formation of early bands like Phylocinium and Phylogeny, and the wild escapades of Anthony, Todd, and Lou. Discover the hilarious origin stories, the brotherly bond between bandmates, and the iconic moments that have shaped their musical journey. With playful banter and amusing anecdotes, this episode is a celebration of camaraderie and the early days of live music.
But that's not all—our episode is packed with engaging segments that are bound to keep you entertained. Join us as we debate the merits of guitar solos versus drum solos, and Southern rock versus glam rock, sparking a lively discussion about our favorite musical eras and genres. We get competitive with a music trivia game show, drawing classic vinyl records and reminiscing about hits from legendary labels like Arista and Atlantic. From the creative genius of bands like Blue Öyster Cult to the technical prowess of disco music, there's something for every music enthusiast.
Finally, we dive into the melancholic yet powerful world of Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, focusing on his recent album "Ghosteen" and the emotional depth of his music. We explore the intellectual richness of contemporary artists like PJ Harvey and Steven Wilson, reflecting on how their work adds a timeless layer to our musical landscape. Join us for an episode overflowing with nostalgia, laughter, and an unwavering love for music, as we celebrate our 100th episode with heartfelt appreciation for our loyal listeners and podcast family.
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Speaker 1:The KOFB Studio presents Milk Crates and Turntables. A music discussion podcast hosted by Scott McClain Now let's talk music.
Speaker 4:Enjoy the show.
Speaker 2:Thank you, amanda, for that wonderful introduction, as usual. Well, I'm in a better mood this week. So, welcome to the podcast. Welcome back, my friends, to the show that never ends. I'm so glad you could attend. Come inside, come inside. Yeah. Yeah, the whole Oasis thing. Well, I'll talk about that when, uh, I bring on the wrecking too. Uh, I'll give you an update on that. And well, yeah, last week was kind of crazy. We're running a couple of minutes behind. This week.
Speaker 2:I got a lot going on. I have a lot going on. I have. I got this. I got my other veterans podcast. I got my foundation that I'm running now. That's booming with, yeah, veterans and people want to be part of it, and it's a, it's a beautiful thing. And, and I got the herd foundation that I'm still a big part of and I got a new studio spot. It's fucking amazing and I can't wait to tell these guys Let me bring them on First of all. Let's bring on. Who do I want to bring on first? Who do I want to bring on first? You know what? Let's. No, you know what. I'm not going to change anything. No.
Speaker 3:No no, no, no no.
Speaker 4:No, no, hey man oh.
Speaker 2:What's up, buddy?
Speaker 4:Everything. How are?
Speaker 2:you. I'm good Good to see you start off a show for once.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, Last week was different. You weren't last year, I mean last week, no, but but but yeah, you had obligations.
Speaker 4:I hopped on. At the end I see you back in France again.
Speaker 2:Was that the week before I see you back in France?
Speaker 4:Well, yeah, I changed my.
Speaker 2:I'm in a different area. Now You're in another hostel.
Speaker 4:I'm going to. It's a cafe. It's a hostel cafe. Yes, it is, it's a hostel cafe.
Speaker 2:They must be voting for Trump Lou if it's a hostel cafe. Anyway, moving on, I think so People are looking at me funny here what are you looking?
Speaker 4:at. You know, bop-bong-goo, what are you looking at?
Speaker 2:Bafangu. Ah, and now, without further ado, let's bring on the one, the only Little Marky Smith. Little Marky Smith, little Marky Smith.
Speaker 1:I'm not done yet. I'm not done yet. What's?
Speaker 2:up buddy. Beta fucking mail to you hey listen, you can gaslight and play it down and do all you want. I don't care anymore, I don't care anymore. You can try to own it all you want. It doesn't affect me. I know your strategy.
Speaker 1:Aren't you going to ask me how I'm doing? I love you, mike, to me. Know you, I know your strategy. Aren't you gonna ask me how I'm doing? I love you, mark you're not to me.
Speaker 2:You're not a beta male, like I said, you're the dude just stand behind me right lou just fucking stand there don't say a word.
Speaker 1:Alpha glow yeah, you got the problem is giant problem is you're only up to here on me. That's fine, and that's that's what I want that's what I want.
Speaker 2:That'll's what I want. That would be a good album cover. It gets to the point where it's just like you know, just look tough. I don't even need you to be tough, just look Exactly, don't look at me like that. There you go. Not really. Jesus Got the money I got your money.
Speaker 2:I got your money crazy there and I didn't shave, uh. So, yeah, the oasis update. Uh, well, I sat on that fucking thing from, uh, I don't know, I logged in. It logged in actually before I went to bed. I got up at uh 3 30 and I was still logged in, but it froze right, and so I just hit a little refresh. Nope, boom, that was it, the kiss of death.
Speaker 2:And then it began the cue and I sent you the text messages as proof and Jack sent me a little message saying you failed, you suck. Jack actually tried and well, look it, I can't say that I didn't try to. I'll pay my debt when they come to America.
Speaker 1:Don't feel bad.
Speaker 2:I'll have time to save up money by then.
Speaker 1:Don't feel bad. My son-in-law has family in England and he was on and he had like seven people in his family in England all trying None of them could get tickets.
Speaker 2:Big problem with the yeah, with Ticketmaster Big problem.
Speaker 1:Again, again, again. Yeah, oh, we didn't know so many people would try. Well, you should know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, big problems with them. I mean, again, we can get into their monopoly. There's no doubt about it. Live Nation owns them and they're the two biggest ticket agencies. Where else can you buy tickets right, except for the box office? And well, how many do they actually have? Do they even get enough?
Speaker 1:Like Oasis, they're not going to have any because they're not going to let you buy them at the box office.
Speaker 2:The only tickets you could get at the box office were special arrangement tickets, like for disabled people or however it worked. I read that thing. They said if you need those, go to the ticket office. Well, what the fuck? Yeah, I know, I'm in Boca Raton, I'm special. Like Chrissy Hine once said, I'm special. You can use your fingers.
Speaker 1:The way, she hated that song. Did you know that?
Speaker 4:yeah, I heard that. What didn't she like about it?
Speaker 2:she hated she goes. What the fuck is a detroit lean she was. I just don't like it. It doesn't make sense to me. You know, I guess she didn't write it, no she wrote it probably no, I, I evidently she. I don't know she didn't, because why would she write a song and then try to put it out?
Speaker 4:there and yeah, you know how it goes. Well, she put it out there. Maybe after she put out, she's like what's that really going on about here? Detroit lean makes it can mean something.
Speaker 2:We know what it means detroit lean is just like anything. Like you know, we used to call it the italians. I was growing up the Vinnies right and the Vinnies would drive around like this Okay, oh, he's leaned into the armrest, leaning off to the side.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, leaning off to the side, the Vinnies. Yeah, the. Vinnies Because every Italian was named Vinny.
Speaker 4:Even if his name was Tony, we called him Vinny.
Speaker 2:There you go, just saying, just saying, or guido just saying I mean, you know, the guido thing was good, but it was always vinny. Hey, vinny, what are you doing?
Speaker 4:huh you know the other one, like it was like a just generic character called vinny boom bots. Yeah, that was, that was used a lot. Oh, that was that real, that was that was uh uh, roddy, dangerfield's doctor.
Speaker 2:You know my doctor, vinny boom bots oh, I didn't know that okay yeah, dr vinny, boom bots. Yeah, um, love the way they talked. It's like and they probably still do this day. Hey Ma, throw me down the stairs my keys. Hey Ma, pass me across the table to salt huh.
Speaker 4:A friend of mine heard some guy in an apartment either below or above saying Ma put that, give me that gun Exactly Like whoa. I swear to to god, I'll kill you I'll kill you.
Speaker 2:I'll kill you come on so that's the update with that, that's the update with that. I found out yesterday I got my new studio and this is going to be a fucking, legit, fucking studio. You have a space, my new space, yeah, studio. It's right in the middle of like prime property, like prime real estate, right in downtown delray beach, right on the main boulevard, on the second floor it's. It's a beautiful, just it's kind of a box is just walls, which is perfect for a box. It's just walls, which is perfect for a studio. I don't need windows.
Speaker 1:Is it a one-room building? Just the whole building?
Speaker 2:No, this is a fucking like. I'll send you a video of this place, man. It's crazy. Like you go in and it's like an art gallery. It's like there's a restaurant downstairs. These are called like C-suites.
Speaker 4:These downstairs and these are called like c-suites. These are like really hard to get. Is it shared space or do you have your own to yourself? My own, yeah, oh, cool.
Speaker 2:So because the guy that's hooking me up, the owner of uh willow and palm construction, the president of willow and palm construction calls me yesterday. He's like, hey, uh, so we're moving. But and I'm like, okay, here we go. You know, maybe it's not, we can't do it yet, maybe it's going to be down the road, you know. He said, well, I was thinking, instead of building you a studio inside the new location, I'm just going to rent. I'm going to continue to lease one of the offices, because they leased like five offices up there and this spot. And uh, in this spot, and uh, he's like I'm just gonna lease one and it's all yours. It's like what, wow? And this is like. You come to this place, you're like this is fucking legit. This is legit, like let's go downstairs and it's hopping at night. It's a, it's a great place, great spot, man. So I'm just blessed with that.
Speaker 1:Awesome Congratulations.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. And so, yeah, the One man, one Mic Foundation. If anybody wants to donate, you can go to the onemanonemicfoundationorg. There's a donate button there in case you want to give it. It's helping veterans with, helping me work with veterans with PTSD and traumatic brain injury, and I got I went to a, uh, a veterans network thing it's this in the County over and uh, like, met all these, like all these people, hey, I want to be on your podcast. I don't know how to podcast, but I want to start a podcast and they're all veterans, cool Right. So this is going to get. It's going to get really busy, really fast, yeah, but it's all working. It's all working. So I've been a little behind. Did you like the intro? Did you catch the intro? Yes, it was kind of different.
Speaker 4:It was very loud at first, though I'll say that yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did that on purpose. I raised the volume on purpose.
Speaker 1:Person that gets people's attention boom yeah, but you know what doesn't get my attention? What patty s? He said good evening, but you didn't put the message. Oh shit, I don't have that up there.
Speaker 2:I just saw I'm always forgetting something, hi, patty, I love you. Patty, thank you for always being there for me.
Speaker 3:Forget mark and lou, it's all about me patty, it's all about me.
Speaker 2:Don't you guys forget that see ya gotta go gotta go so yeah, tonight we're going to talk a little about the um, the new nick cave album, right, oh yeah, and uh, very, very interesting album, and uh, yeah, so and uh, yeah so we interrupt our program to bring you this important message.
Speaker 4:What the fuck was that? Who's that?
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 4:Oh shit, we need lighting, we need lighting.
Speaker 2:Does his mic work? I don't even know if his mic works. I can't hear you.
Speaker 4:We can't hear you. Vinny does your mic work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we got to get the mic on. Let's see. No, that works out perfectly with the emergency broadcast system.
Speaker 1:We got a little Godzilla, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, okay all right, there you go right there he is all right, all right, does somebody want to?
Speaker 2:introduce this guy who just broke in with an emergency. I don't even know how he did that, but he broke into the podcast. This guy. Does somebody want to introduce this guy?
Speaker 4:I guess it's up to me, isn't it? The lighting is better. That's my brother, anthony Colicchio hey.
Speaker 2:There he is. What's?
Speaker 4:going on folks. So guys you've met Scott Up top, that's Mark Smith.
Speaker 1:Scott's getting all his toys out here.
Speaker 2:He's getting it all.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I start dancing. You put that in there.
Speaker 3:Enough of that, I get it, whoa.
Speaker 2:That might be the biggest introduction in the history of Milk Crate's intern table. He got all the sound effects.
Speaker 3:I didn't expect the emergency broadcast, but I was going to play Cities on Flame that Lou used to sing and I figured Godzilla.
Speaker 2:So who wants to give us a little background on the Colicchio brothers in this? Well, me and Mark just sit back and enjoy. Mark probably knows more than I do about the Colicchio brothers.
Speaker 1:I did see a picture of them earlier.
Speaker 2:They played in the band together. I saw a picture the other day that Anthony Tony Anthony, Do you go by Anthony? Or Tony Anthony, Anthony, good.
Speaker 1:I like my son.
Speaker 2:Good, that's your real name. Good Italian shortening shit, making a name out of something that's not even in the word.
Speaker 4:He also goes by the name Nesquik.
Speaker 2:You got to kind of pull some letters out to get Tony, but okay, okay, all right.
Speaker 1:And he sent me a picture and it was.
Speaker 2:It was the. They look like the Van Halen brothers back in like 1979 or something. It was like I was like holy shit, there they are. So what's the history? What's the history of you guys, the bands? What's up?
Speaker 3:It all started with me.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about me.
Speaker 1:It all started with you.
Speaker 2:So let me ask you this anthony was, uh, you started the band and we so the. The story goes that when duane allman started the allman brothers, right, he got greg, like greg was the last one he brought on, and so people would be like, oh, it's only because he's dragging you along or he needed a filler somewhere. It wasn't really like hey, you're my bro, let's do this first, like you, let's you and me start this bit. Greg was the last one he brought in, greg allman. So how did this work between you two?
Speaker 3:years older than me, really best drummer I've ever played with hands down. I've played with a lot of drummers. It's just the way we lock in and it is an Eddie and Alex thing.
Speaker 4:I'm smarter than Alex, though. What's that? I'm smarter than Alex, though.
Speaker 3:Much smarter, I'm smart.
Speaker 2:I know things that's my line.
Speaker 3:We started off playing Cream and Southern Rock, and the first show that we did we're playing Flirting with Disaster Motley Crue. I mean Motley Crue? Yeah right, molly Hatchet, I get them confused. It's the same Lou and I.
Speaker 4:We really just locked in and brought in our brother todd but coerced, or more like wheedled, and cajoled him into the band. He was a little reticent about joining the band. Lou, using the big words tonight, that's right, right you know, but before we actually played in the band, anthony and I, we had uh, we, our family had a roller rink, so in between sessions we would play in the skate room, what we do. We'd smoke a lot of marijuana across the street in a big sewer drain there you go.
Speaker 2:Now we're getting down to the brass tacks you'd get apple juice, get all baked up.
Speaker 4:Then we go back between sessions like our dad didn't know it and we would jam out. We had originals before we were even in the band.
Speaker 3:All right, which one Lou?
Speaker 4:There was the photo of the bear.
Speaker 3:Right, which escalated to our biggest hit, Chester the Molester God that was terrible.
Speaker 2:That was the biggest hit. What was the name of the band? First of all, what was the name of?
Speaker 4:the band.
Speaker 3:I'll leave that to you um, I wrote on a wall lou, and I did murals. You know we're both into art and painting and stuff and I wrote this, this thing down, phylocinium and the worst choice of a name, but it was great. When we're doing progressive rock, you know doing Rush. Yeah, we could have done a blue oyster cult show like nobody's business, and we practically did.
Speaker 1:But we played Carnival Nine by Emerson Lake and Palmer. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, Right, no.
Speaker 4:That's Hocus Pocus.
Speaker 2:That's Hocus Pocus. That's I'm not an ELP guy. All right, okay, I got what. Carnival 9 is. I know what it is Carnival, carnival.
Speaker 3:Come on, get it right. Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends.
Speaker 2:That's what I say at the beginning of every episode now, right, yeah, look, lou's very disappointed in me right now. No, I'm not, look at the look on his face. That's what I say at the beginning of every episode. Now, right, yeah, look, Lou's very disappointed in me, right now?
Speaker 4:No, I'm not. Look at the look on his face.
Speaker 3:Hey Lou, this is only a few hours in the making. You know how we snuck this up.
Speaker 4:Scott must have come to the deli.
Speaker 2:No, I haven't gone yet. I've been there. I've been there off and on in the past and I'm going to get out there and I'm going to get the best chicken palm sub I ever had.
Speaker 4:What's that? How'd you get in touch?
Speaker 2:You'll never know. We're not going to tell you that.
Speaker 4:I'll get it out of hand.
Speaker 2:Hey.
Speaker 3:But this is what I wear behind the counter.
Speaker 2:There you go. There you go. Hey what do you want you?
Speaker 3:want chicken palm subs, you want fresh mozzarella, you want provolone.
Speaker 2:Which one? There you go, there you go, that's what I'm talking about I'm a provolone guy. Actually, I'm a provolone guy, provolone. Hey, now you said that's the worst name ever. I have to beg to differ in this case, the worst. And I mentioned this and I actually played a clip from this band on the show and it didn't get copyright snagged by YouTube because the name of it's a Japanese band and the name of the band is the Bathtub Shitters.
Speaker 4:Fucking, worst name ever.
Speaker 2:Or it's the greatest name ever. I can't make up my mind.
Speaker 4:The Bathtub Shitters With phylocinium, if you with with phylocinium, if you looked at like phylo, like as a prefix, means like, love of, and we took cinium to mean, like you know, multiple sins. So we're trying to be like evil and cheeky.
Speaker 2:So yeah, isn't that? You look back you're like oh, this is like what. Were we trying to be clever and cool.
Speaker 4:yeah, it was kind of. It was kind of snarky. You know, there the 70s Rock and roll was bad boys. We'd get these Catholic school gigs and stuff. What does your band name mean? It means lovers of many sins, sister. It means nothing or none of your business. We played a Catholic it was Our Lady of Mercy in Park Ridge, new Jersey. In the auditorium we were playing this Bloorster Cult song called Divide and Win and it's like if he thinks we're the devil, then let's send him to hell, and how old were you guys, how old were you guys?
Speaker 4:I was probably maybe 21, 20, 21, maybe Okay At that point.
Speaker 3:I'm three years younger, so you know booking these gigs, you know we're playing. You know really some controversial, like most of Blue Airstock Cult. Yeah, you know which is a huge influence, but we would do like extended songs oh yeah. But all offensive to.
Speaker 2:Career of Evil by Blue A nicole nice song, good song, yeah. So back in the 70s that was the thing like when I was in middle school right, well, junior high, as we fucking called it yeah, uh, it was uh like there was. There was junior high dances, like they were literally like and there would be a live band playing and it was like it was the bomb. It was every during the school year. It was like I think it was every saturday night or something, or every friday or saturday night.
Speaker 2:You know that meant you had to go get someone to buy for you and you got that bottle of fucking of orange sugar called tango, which was supposed to be a mix of, you know, vodka and orange juice. But screwdriver, that's the shit you drink when you're old. You're like, god damn, how did I not have diabetes? And then you got these idiots that would buy the southern comfort and always like, without fucking fail, they're gonna puke. You know, I read a good meme recently that said uh, I remember the days when I would tell my mother I'm gonna sleep over my friend's house when in reality I was dying of alcohol poisoning in the middle of a field.
Speaker 1:Been there, we've all been there.
Speaker 2:So the band started right and then you got this thing moving and you started to pick up a little. I guess what local momentum, right yeah.
Speaker 4:Our first gig? Well, it was Anthony, our older brother, todd he's three years older than me and myself and Anthony recruited two young classmates of his era, about two, three years younger than you, maybe, Right, at least, yeah, really. So a bass player, kevin Humphress and Chris Amalar played guitar and keyboards Two very talented, very talented guys, super talented guys, but they were young and they were so corrupted. We just corrupted these young teenagers. It really was bad, and their parents were so sweet and so nice to us.
Speaker 2:It was fucking rock and roll baby.
Speaker 4:It was rock and roll, scott. Rock and roll, live it. It was a ton of fun.
Speaker 2:I was going to say so it was. It was a ton of fun. I was gonna say so. You know, it's not the thing. So people that are in, guys or ladies, everybody that's in a band I've never been in one, but I can only imagine that. You know, at first it's great and then it breaks up and then you think at a point in time in your life, yeah, we were okay. But then as you get a little older, you're like that was a lot of fucking fun, like you really do. You look back and appreciate it even more Because you did it. You literally did it. You played shows, you played live. You got the crowds. According to Anthony, I did a little pre-show interview. Lou, no shit.
Speaker 4:Because I didn't know it could have been a wild card or not?
Speaker 2:But, evidently the girls were running wild and sorry, I got to say from what I was told you got the cast offs.
Speaker 4:But I'm just Of course you heard that.
Speaker 2:And I'm sure you didn't mind, even if you did.
Speaker 4:I was like Dennis Wilson on Beach Boys. They used to flock my drum kit there you go.
Speaker 2:So let's see it, let's hear it. Who was pulling? Who was shooting fish in a barrel? Which one of you was shooting fish in a?
Speaker 4:barrel. We all did rather well. Actually I, I was single for a great deal of phylogeny, um, and so when I at one point we all had steady, steady girlfriends, okay and that those gigs on the side didn't get in the way of anything like.
Speaker 2:There was no like live the life, what the fuck? Who cares? None of that.
Speaker 3:You were good, solid, boyfriend this is the way it works. Our brother Todd phenomenal, great looking guy, phenomenal voice, great shape could do a backflip Did not engage, he did not have sexual intercourse with that woman and Lou I mean I was doing my thing quite successfully, yeah, but all the girls loved Lou he was stripped down out of his spandex pants into a pair of Speedos.
Speaker 4:No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, no, no, no, no no. I did that on a dare.
Speaker 4:No, I did that on a dare. I didn't do that. That wasn't a regular thing.
Speaker 1:I always kept my car key. Pictures of this somewhere.
Speaker 4:No, or they'd be destroyed. Someone dared me to put a red Speedo on and do it, so I did.
Speaker 3:I did and he jumps over the drum set Not the most successful. You did it twice Lou.
Speaker 4:My legs are too short. I saw Clem Burke of Blondie do that on SNL. I'm like I can do that. No, I can't. So what was the? Uh? So you guys, how long was the?
Speaker 2:run. How long did?
Speaker 4:it go. Uh, yeah, I mean, there was a philo, there was a philo version two when, um well, everyone quit, one by one because they couldn't deal with anth.
Speaker 3:I was too demanding.
Speaker 2:Were you the lead singer, were you the lead guitarist. Lead singer, I was on version two.
Speaker 3:Yeah, all of us sang but, Todd set a pipes on that guy. He needed a break and we were doing the Blue Air, so Cold stuff. He would sing the Eric Bloom. I would sing the Bach Dharma yeah, I'd sing, I'm the Bach Dharma. I'd sing I'm burning, I'm burning, I'm burning for you and you know, don't fear the reaper and all the Bach Dharma stuff. And it was a really good blue oyster cold show. But there was a bunch of dudes looking at us with their arms folded and I thought it would be a great idea if we did a Van Halen show. And our member, chris Amelar, you know he was studying and he still, to this day, he's never had a job outside of music Phenomenal musician, best guitarist, best musician I've ever sat in a room with. He's that good and I think he's tuned in right now. He went to William Patterson, got his degree and everything. So Lou, todd, kevin and I, kevin Humphreys, we did a Van Halen show. Talk about fun. I mean, I'm in a ladies room with a wireless right Lou.
Speaker 4:I didn't know that until recently, the most fun were parties.
Speaker 2:Okay, after parties.
Speaker 4:The house town parties were the most fun oh playing those things, yeah.
Speaker 2:There's really no pressure at that point. I've seen people with shitty acoustic guitars get a lot of attention at parties. People don't give a fuck, they're just happy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we were a good type band though and we're fun, though we're a little, a little undisciplined, but that was part of the whole thing. Um, but our first gig was at anthony's high school. It was this pop cert and, you know, we rehearsed a little bit so we had the original lineup of us and it was kind of funny I say this with all humility it was philomania. We're all nervous and shit in our pants. We never performed before, yeah, and it was in like the school theater and it was packed and the kids flipped out. My father was there and that was like he's like okay.
Speaker 3:Not a dry seat in the house.
Speaker 4:I mean, I got asked. I got asked for my autograph and I'm like you gotta be fucking kidding me.
Speaker 2:Well, there you go. Look at that. Look at that. Somewhere that autograph is floating around.
Speaker 4:My father saw that and he went uh-huh, so he tried to become like Mary Wilson of the Beach Boys. You know he wanted to manage us, but you know, plus we were out of control. You know what I mean. But you know was just, it was a plus, we were out of control, you know. But you know he wanted to manage us but he wanted to book us as a nice clean, clean cut act, you know, which is what we weren't um, it never could be, but it was, it was fun, but I guess maybe four or five years, maybe in total all right, was there ever a reunion.
Speaker 2:So what was the end?
Speaker 4:there's not, there's not been a reunion what was the end? What? What was the?
Speaker 4:it kind of just flickered, I guess you know, ran its course well, yeah, so we did the philo version two with a bass player named rob littauer um, a very eccentric man, and so then we did that. That's when I started getting to the product stuff, because he was a big rush head and I wanted to become a better drummer. That helped a lot. I couldn't sing that shit. What the hell man. You acquitted yourself good. You know what I mean. Certain things, like you said.
Speaker 3:I'm going to go away from here.
Speaker 4:Was the other version of Kevin.
Speaker 3:None of us were getting laid out of that stuff. No, no, it's true.
Speaker 1:You don't get laid out of Rush music now. No, no, no.
Speaker 2:So what was the final? What was your swan song? What was, you know, the final concert?
Speaker 4:I think it was at the Bergenfield Roller Rink. Yeah, I think that might at the Bergenfield Roller Rink. Yeah, I think that might have been one of the last we're going back, sylvia, I booked us into another roller rink owned by a friend of my father's and we got paid that night, I remember. But he was disappointed with the turnout. We had some equipment problems, but I think that's when I brought the cardboard cutout of Burt Reynolds from Smoky and the Bandit on stage. But I think that's when I brought the cardboard cutout of Burt Reynolds from Smoky and the Bandit on stage. When you were playing your 45-minute guitar solo, scott, I went out to my car. I had this guy.
Speaker 3:I completely forgot about that shit Next thing I know, I got Smoky and the Bandit.
Speaker 4:He's got the white suit on and the hat I had time to go out to my car.
Speaker 3:I was ready to commit suicide because I had to play. I'm alone again, without you. By talking, I said I don't want to play this.
Speaker 4:We played that yeah there's things we forget.
Speaker 3:I don't remember playing that we just really, I was in an elevator, actually in a paper, actually in a paper soup, and I'm only kidding and I heard this Asia song, this Asia song. Oh, time will tell. You're leaving now and I'm like we used to play that oh shit, we played it night rangers we were.
Speaker 4:I mean, we did night ranger yeah that's a good song don't tell me, you love me um, okay, that was a hit.
Speaker 2:That's somewhat of it.
Speaker 4:It was a popular song and I'm pretty sure I did say I'm not gonna play run with the devil ever again. I I think I put my foot down. I can't play that stupid for that long.
Speaker 2:You can't play that stupid for that long.
Speaker 4:I think 86 or so, I think.
Speaker 2:All right, 86, was it? That was your last waltz at the roller rink.
Speaker 4:I was a junior in high school.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 4:You're not there and you did not rip your pants.
Speaker 1:No, that was in Zion Lutheran school.
Speaker 2:You went to Zion, lutheran.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You went to Zion, Lutheran my friend.
Speaker 1:K-8. All nine years.
Speaker 3:Did you?
Speaker 1:leave speaking German. What's that?
Speaker 3:Did you leave speaking German?
Speaker 1:No, I refused to learn it.
Speaker 3:Exactly, me too. I had a Frau Heiliger and for some reason or other Lou went to Don Bosco Preparatory High School and my biggest fear was that I was going to have to go to that old boy's school. So instead my evil stepmother sent me to a zion lutheran bad move and they left me back to go in there I had the smokiness hottest I. She's still in the bank. If you know, I'm talking about german teacher the spank bank.
Speaker 1:We all know what that is oh, stop that, stop that, no interest.
Speaker 3:Come on.
Speaker 1:No interest.
Speaker 3:She brought me home on my last day of school, I didn't speak.
Speaker 2:You're overdoing it. Speck in the Deutsch.
Speaker 1:I couldn't learn it. It was just too foreign to me. Yeah, they tried. They tried to drill it into me.
Speaker 3:That was a rough. My condolences, my friend. I got the crap kicked out of Now I went to public.
Speaker 1:I went to public high school. I went to Pasquac Valley and I came into public high school a year behind everybody. I didn't know any science, I didn't know any math. I was like it just fucked me in high school, you know.
Speaker 2:That was the only time he got fucked in high school yeah. Yeah, alright, listen, I'd love to fucking talk about these New Jersey Catholic schools and Mormon schools and. German schools and Lutheran schools. But listen, hey, anthony, you want to stick around? I have a whole bunch of you. Make the call things Real quick. Oh, we got to do 45 poke at first, right?
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's right all right.
Speaker 2:Well, anthony's in the game, all right hey how come he gets to play guitar?
Speaker 1:because he's a guest anthony, I got I got yelled at for playing guitar on the show.
Speaker 2:I'm not well, it all started with jack.
Speaker 1:I get, I get his best childhood friend, jack. He, yeah, his best childhood friend, jack. He can't Not my best childhood friend.
Speaker 2:I fucking can't stand Jack, anyways.
Speaker 3:Anyways, favorite job, the part where I let my brother Jack off.
Speaker 2:There you go. So this is how we do it, Anthony. I take out $145 for each of us, and I'll do it again. Then the second round, just like dealing cards, and then Mark finishes it off the best 345s wins the game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, finish everybody off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, there we go. All right, we're going to start off. We'll start off with Anthony. What does he pull out first? What do we got? Okay, from Arista Records, dionne Warwick I'll never Love this Way Again, or In your Eyes, I'll Never Love this Way. That's a big one let's go to Mark. Here you go, mark from Atlantic Records. Atlantic Records, darryl Hall and John Oates she's gone. That's a biggie alright, here you go, lou Zeppelin, daryl Hall and John.
Speaker 3:Oates.
Speaker 2:She's gone. That's a biggie, yep, yep. All right, here you go, luke. Let's see what we got.
Speaker 1:Some unknown R&B song. Yeah, come on Bring the shit.
Speaker 2:Bring the garbage From. Rso Records, pg, rso Records, andy Gibb. Love is thicker than water. Love is thicker than blah blah heaven's angel yeah that's a biggie.
Speaker 4:That was a big hit all right now.
Speaker 2:Now it's my turn to pull the shit bring on the crowd from avco records. That's not good. That's not good. Oh, I don't know. I don't know the stylistics from afco records like the funky, you know little. Sleeve there one of my favorite stylistics. You make me feel brand new shit. That's a good one, all right round. Two coming up. Here you go, anthony. I think this is kind of there's no real winner right now. She's gone, maybe, I don't know. All right, here we go.
Speaker 2:Anthony, you got 20th century records 20th century is looking All right. Well, stephanie Mills, what you going to do with my loving? What you going to do with my loving? That was a little disco hit. It had a little bit of legs for a minute. So he's got Dionne Warwick and he's got Stephanie Mills. All right, here you go, mark, let's see what you got. Oh, okay, I think we've had this one.
Speaker 2:We have had all of them. This is from I don't even know the name of the record company Motown Records, but it's that old, it's an old label. Uh, smoky, robinson, smoky.
Speaker 1:Uh, baby, that's back at you oh, yeah, I had that last time, I had it before.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah all right here we go moderate hit here's mine, come on what about me? Yeah, this is a little sorry because I'm paying no mindless.
Speaker 2:I felt shit on this one, you always miss the drummer, you know that you always forget the drummer and you know what and you?
Speaker 4:know, what.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you pulled this card from me, buddy.
Speaker 4:I took a hit.
Speaker 2:Johnny Taylor Disco Lady.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, man, that was good in the club and maybe that local disco channel that we all had in our cities.
Speaker 2:Anthony, did you like disco? Honestly? Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:I grew up in a roller rink with a freaking mirror.
Speaker 2:I always say this the best fucking produced music was disco music. It's not easy to do, it's not easy to produce. It made it sound easy, but a good disco song is pretty complicated.
Speaker 4:Back then it was played too. It was yeah well yep there's a lot going on in a disco song.
Speaker 2:All right, here we go. Here's mine from atlantic records, dion warwick. Then came you. All right, I'll take it.
Speaker 4:That's what the spinners right, uh all right mark.
Speaker 2:You pull the last one. Here we go. All right, this is for anthony. This is going to make or break you, anthony. Right here, spinners were little people I'm broken.
Speaker 1:All right, I'm broken anyways, it doesn't matter all right, the monkeys, the Monkees, steppenstone, or I'm a Believer.
Speaker 2:Those are two hits. That's a big one.
Speaker 4:I think I'm a Believer is a bigger hit.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Which one was the bigger hit?
Speaker 3:Do I have to?
Speaker 2:I'm lousy. Whichever one you want to take, I would think that I'm a Believer is a bigger hit. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:I would think that I'm a believer is a bigger hit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll believe that. All right, all right.
Speaker 1:I'm up next. Stop feeling the Braille on the fucking planet records the pointer sisters jump for my love, Ooh that was a hit. It was getting personal. I don't like the fact that you own that.
Speaker 2:It's a little disturbing, but okay, I told you these came from a getting personal. I don't like the fact that you own that. It's a little disturbing.
Speaker 1:But okay, I told you these came from a uh, oh, the diner in westwood west.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's right, you got the diner. That's right. Yeah, the diner 45s, yeah they smell that's a great smell.
Speaker 4:The pasta all right. Who's next me? Come on, what is this shit? Who's next? Everyone's forgetting.
Speaker 2:Your brother comes on. It totally overshadows you, lou. What's up, lou, I'm sorry about this one anthony. Just he'll never be invited on the show again. Lou will make sure that lou's gonna have a contract.
Speaker 1:I didn't write a stipulation I will never be overshadowed by my brother again. He's an alumni of zion.
Speaker 2:Leave him alone, okay if you say so, big guy yeah, not big guy all right, class I'm only six, four it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:Classics for mary, mary, row your boat or traces traces big hit all right, all right, I'm not writing these fourth picks down, so I hope everybody remembers them. Well, I got, I got mine in front of me, all right, and scott your last yep. Pacific gas and electric it's either stago-o-ly or are you ready.
Speaker 2:Either one not to be confused with the Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds. Stagger-ly no Grateful.
Speaker 1:Dead stagger-ly.
Speaker 2:Nick Cave does the best version of stagger-ly ever.
Speaker 3:No one says music better than Nick.
Speaker 2:Cave, nick Cave. Yeah, we're gonna talk about show supposed to be Nick Cage, nick Cave. Yeah, we're going to talk about Nick Cage. Oh I thought you said Nick Cage. Yeah, I know that guy, Nick Page yeah.
Speaker 1:Little Nicky Coppa.
Speaker 2:Fucking good.
Speaker 4:Nicky Page. I couldn't find any albums by him.
Speaker 2:He's good, he's good.
Speaker 3:I'm a little tired, I'm a little wired.
Speaker 2:Well, who's the winner? I Well, who's the winner? I forgot what I had. You got shit, you got Smokey Robinson. That's back at you.
Speaker 4:No, that was Mark.
Speaker 2:No, that was you. You got Johnny Taylor Disco Lady.
Speaker 4:Disco Lady and.
Speaker 2:Andy Gibb. Love is Thicker Than Water and Mark pulled what Pacific.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:That was me.
Speaker 1:Classics, classics for you and Traces.
Speaker 2:Traces, traces. Yeah, anthony had. Then Came you you Make Me Feel Brand New and the Monkees I got to give it to him.
Speaker 4:Then came boom, because then, lou, you didn't, okay, all right, that's what I'm going to say. There you go.
Speaker 1:Yay, you won, there you go, that's cool.
Speaker 4:There, you go.
Speaker 2:Yay, you won there you go, that's cool. But you wore out all your applause when you came on the show. I don't have any more for you, so you don't get that. We have a new guest.
Speaker 4:Scott's going to send you some hot sauce.
Speaker 2:I'm going to send you that hot sauce that I never got. So, yeah, yeah, that was my original sponsor. I had a big fallout with them because they never sent me hot sauce and when they did, it sucked.
Speaker 1:Anthony ask for a Marvel statue. Yeah, See, right back there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Life-size statues buddy.
Speaker 4:Who the hell is Chris Amelar?
Speaker 2:ah, test these guys. Who knows more about blue acetyl trivia? Oh, all, right all right, you know what? Let me see something we might.
Speaker 1:Last week was zebra and elp trivia for me all right where's perry now?
Speaker 4:perry loves blue acetyl trivia.
Speaker 1:Hey Perry, let me text him.
Speaker 2:Let's see what we come up with. Let me see you know. Whenever I do this, I don't know if this even Multiple choice.
Speaker 1:Ten questions what was the first name of the band?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, it's usually like that the clock strikes twelve and moon drops first.
Speaker 3:Out at you.
Speaker 2:Out from the hiding place. Which song is that from Astronomy? We both know that. I think Lou answered first.
Speaker 3:Okay, no, no, no, he pulled it All odds.
Speaker 2:Mark, I'm not getting in the middle of that. Me neither All right. Number two Me, neither All right number two. Question two All our times have come here, but now they're gone. Which song did that come from?
Speaker 1:Oh, God, don't Fear the Reaper, don't Fear Godzilla.
Speaker 2:Don't Fear the Reaper, there you go.
Speaker 1:That was easy.
Speaker 2:Godzilla Number three, death comes sweeping through the hallway like a lady's dress fire of unknown origin fire of unknown origin.
Speaker 4:There you go. Who's keeping track of who's got what?
Speaker 2:all right, number four, while I'm up there beside the magic man and he laid some tricks for me shooting shark yeah, yep, who got it. Jerk yeah, yep, who got it? Which song did buck dama say that he was living? Forgiving the devil is due. That's right for you. Yeah, even I know that I'm not a fucking blue circle fan. Worst car today was all my life was the black and blue tour. Like a deal with the sabbath, just don't start don't start, I love Dio, with Sabbath all right, he picks up a bus and he throws it back down.
Speaker 2:That's Godzilla. I just pulled these, so I don't know how challenging they really are. I have this feeling that luck is none too good. Black Blade, black Blade, it is wow. Yep, uh, how could I fool you? Rest, assure you rest and assure you Anthony disappeared, what'd you do. Lou let's bring him back on.
Speaker 4:I texted him. I said get lost, get off the show did Anthony just put himself in the? Penalty box, penalty box. Where'd you go, man?
Speaker 2:did he just put himself in the penalty box? What happened to my screen here?
Speaker 4:oh, shit, he's on a, he's on a phone, like, like. Uh, mark perrin, I were yeah, exactly dude when we first started the podcast.
Speaker 2:Oh, well, all right. Where was bluest? The cult formed long island long island long island stony Brook College, I think. All right, let me see Softballs, softballs, I know.
Speaker 1:I'm just listen. I don't fucking know. You're like an 80-year-old man throwing out pitches here.
Speaker 4:The Black Blade one was pretty good. Why am I telling you that? See, I tried.
Speaker 2:Fucking Chris Alamont gets me in trouble. I'm trying to fucking do what he and I get this and now I'm getting shit on.
Speaker 4:I don't know chris emeler, didn't he play with david bowie I?
Speaker 2:don't know. You know what, you know what I'm gonna put myself.
Speaker 1:Oh, he put oh, the inmates have taken over the asylum so, so, anthony, I gotta tell you, I gotta tell you something. I was like a real fair weather boc fan. But when I joined perry and lou's podcast, lou got me in the boc big time. So they put out a box of all their albums, every album, all the uh, the major label albums up to club ninja, and um, there's an extra with rarities and there's like it's like a recording they made before their first album at a pizzeria in rochester fucking incredible I'm not laughing at you, mark.
Speaker 2:Ask them which philisthenium songs broke the top 10. All of them.
Speaker 4:Uh, we had too many. Just two short years roller rink oh my god where I split my pants.
Speaker 2:I think our number one was we had the top 10 at the local roller rink that's how we fucking rolled.
Speaker 4:That was the best fucking roller rink can we never for a second. I have a. I have a cassette tape of one of those concerts it's been a part of well, I have a. Well I have unearthed some old cassette things in the last year when I unpacked a lot of shit.
Speaker 1:So there's five or six.
Speaker 4:They need some help. Actually, they need to be transferred. I could help you All right.
Speaker 2:Listen. Blue Mr Kelp were previously known as Soft White Underbelly. Did you ever watch those videos on YouTube? Soft White Underbelly, Fucking phenomenal.
Speaker 2:It was then back then this guy just decided that he was gonna quit whatever he was doing and he goes out and like he went up into the fucking hills of uh, uh what do you call it where all the the, the white, poor, white people up in the uh appellations where I live and he interviewed a family in there like he go on the street and he has them like come into a studio, like he's. This dude has touched, dude has touched the lowest of the low in society to the highest and he just asks them these questions. It's fascinating videos Softbite, underbelly, but that's what they were known for. What name came from the quote and who said it? From a quote? Who said it? Was it Aldous Huxley? Nope. Patti Smith, nope, nope. So the name wait, sandy white underbelly came, I'm assuming. The question is what? Where did soft white underbelly come from? Who and who said it? I thought it was from a quote.
Speaker 4:It was a quote.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know so the options are william shakespeare, winston churchill, bob dylan or egg duralin poe? I think it's winston churchill. It was from a quote. It was a quote, yeah, I don't know. So the options are William Shakespeare, winston Churchill, bob Dylan or Edgar Allan Poe.
Speaker 1:I think it's.
Speaker 2:Winston Churchill actually.
Speaker 1:I say Edgar Allan Poe, I do think I know that.
Speaker 2:I do think I know it's Winston Churchill.
Speaker 4:What were the other two besides Churchill and Edgar Allan Poe?
Speaker 2:William Shakespeare. That's the name of the interviewer. All right, okay, anyway, that's the name of the interviewer.
Speaker 4:All right, okay, anyway, okay, moving on, I'm going to say Shakespeare.
Speaker 2:Who was it, though? It's not telling me now. All right hint.
Speaker 1:What a horrible moderator.
Speaker 2:Jesus, it was Winston Churchill, I'm right.
Speaker 1:It was Churchill.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it was a speech that he made, one of those fireside speeches. See, I know things. Who's credited with suggesting adding the umlaut to Blois the Culp? Richard Melzer? Nope, not even an option. The comedian.
Speaker 1:The umlaut, umlaut.
Speaker 3:Is it an umlaut or an umlaut, sandy?
Speaker 2:Perlman, eric Bloom or the record company. Sandy Perlman, eric Bloom or the Wreck-It Company.
Speaker 4:Sandy Perlman, let's see.
Speaker 1:That sounds about right to me.
Speaker 4:He was our producer Sandy.
Speaker 2:Perlman Okay, manager, he was their manager, right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he wrote a lot of lyrics. I got to move on from this.
Speaker 2:This is fucking killing me, Please the cult. See, see, I try to please the audience. It doesn't always work, sorry chris, it was fun it was fun, yeah it was for you. I got put in the penalty box. Who did blue is the cult's drummer albert bouchard. Perform with in the brain surgeons dd dd, ramon, arthur cane from the new york dolls, lenny k from the patty Smith Group or Ross the Boss from Manowar and Dictators.
Speaker 4:There's a room. It might have been him. I don't. I'd say DD Ramone. I don't think DD Ramone. I'd be shocked if he did it. I know the band, but there was probably a whole bunch of different people on. We go, you make the call.
Speaker 2:You make the call. Alright, anthony, we'll start with you. What do you like better, classic rock or modern rock?
Speaker 3:I'm going to have to go classic, because I don't like anything I'm hearing.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Mark Classic, Like it's kind of a no-brainer.
Speaker 1:I like some modern rock, but not much. I like a lot more modern, a lot modern rock is more like from the 90s on.
Speaker 2:I think I'd call that more modern I'm a lot.
Speaker 4:I was. I was gonna ask 20 years ago, what's that? I was wondering what was considered modern.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'd say it's the 90s on you know, uh, I think we're gonna say class rock yeah uh guitar guitar solos or acoustic guitar riffs. Anthony guitar Guitar solos?
Speaker 1:Well, of course right, mark, I'm a Jeff Peck fan. What do you think? There you go, luke Guitar solos.
Speaker 4:He said acoustic guitar riffs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't think so. They're good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know this is fucking chat, gpt. What can I tell you?
Speaker 1:Stop using that Same new ask interesting questions. I'm busy you can lie, I'm running a fucking foundation.
Speaker 2:I'm losing kind of I squeeze this shit out, but nothing gets in the way of milk crates at least scott's happy this week.
Speaker 1:I had to deal with him last week.
Speaker 2:Don't start all right, anthony, let's go with uh live, rock concerts or studio albums. Which one do you like, album wisewise, live or studio?
Speaker 1:Mark, oh, it depends on the band, but I think I will go because I'm a Grateful Dead fan that likes their studio albums. So studio Lou.
Speaker 4:I'm a studio cat.
Speaker 2:I like studio too. But you know what? Jack is a big Jack's. The guy who started the podcast with Anthony Jack's awesome Big live music guy. So is Dave Phillips King of the 45s loves live, the live versions of stuff. He always says it's better live. So, uh, I find that interesting. I'm I can't listen. Like the only real live album I listen to is made in japan. I just can't that. I won't. I'll listen to that before I listen to the studio version of case in the Water Case in point.
Speaker 1:don't fear the Reaper. There's a ton of live versions of it. They're all good, but it doesn't beat the studio version. The studio version is perfect.
Speaker 2:Alright, anthony, rock ballads or hard rock anthems. You talking to me? Yeah, you gotta be talking to me. There's nobody else here. You talking to me, you talking to me, you talking to me. There's nobody else here, you talking to me, you talking to me, skyfall Lando on me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm not going to go Rock and balance, or hard rock anthems. All right. Anthems Really.
Speaker 1:Okay, Mark. What was the question again? And Anthony was about to make a profound statement and you interrupted him.
Speaker 3:Regarding Don't Fear the Reaper live, we used to do it in A minor. It was one of the first songs that I ever performed that and Astronomy. In ninth grade I forced the guys to play it in B minor, which is like putting a capo on the second fret, and Mr Amilar still hates me to this day because I wanted to bring the vocals up so we could harmonize. We had five guys singing and playing it in B minor. He still he says that's one of the things I hate you for, Fucking hate you.
Speaker 4:The saddest of all keys.
Speaker 1:It's very sanguine.
Speaker 2:Rock ballads or rock anthems.
Speaker 1:Rock ballads. The track record of rock ballads since the 1980s is pretty bad, so I'll go with rock anthems Lou.
Speaker 4:What's a rock anthem Like? Come on, feel the noise.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, like you know isn't, we Are the Champions. Isn't that an anthem, a rock?
Speaker 4:anthem yeah, as opposed to like Sister Christian being a rock ballad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess I'll go with the anthems.
Speaker 2:I'm going to change mine to ballads because I'm thinking there were good ballads in the 70s. You can't change your answer too much. All right, that's it. It's moved on. So you got one wrong. You're wrong. What did you pick? You picked anthems. You picked anthems Fucking asshole.
Speaker 1:I gotta go.
Speaker 2:I'm not a big ballad guy, but there are some good rock ballads out there. There are All right, Anthony, a high energy rock or more melodic, straight like regular rock.
Speaker 3:Um a lot.
Speaker 2:All right, the Rolling Stones got some melodic songs right. They got the. Then they get the high energy some melodic songs right. They got the high energy, like ACDC right, lou Mark.
Speaker 1:Nothing beats a good Zebra album melodic rock Okay.
Speaker 4:Lou.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I lean toward that too. I think Melodic rock, yeah, yeah, I'd go with that. Heavy metal or punk rock, anthony, I think we know this Well heavy metal not rock and that Heavy metal or punk rock? Anthony, I think we know this Well. Heavy metal not rock and roll.
Speaker 1:Heavy metal or punk rock, heavy metal, metal, heavy metal. I know where the talent is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, heavy metal that's where the talent is. Okay, yeah, punk, punk, wow, interesting, wow, I guess it's a taste thing, right, I was never a big heavy metal guy myself. Me neither, I really wasn't heavy heavy metal.
Speaker 2:I don't like yeah, I never, really, so I gotta go with punk. Yeah, yeah, christ, uh, let me see. Well, this isn't either. Well, we're talking to some. This is uh, what do you prefer more? Uh, what do you prefer like more like? Uh, classic rock like, and this is an. Well, we're talking to some. This is a. What do you prefer more? What do you prefer Like more like a classic rock like and this is related to the first question Bands like Led Zeppelin or newer bands like the Foo Fighters. So that goes back to the first question. Anthony, what would you rather listen to? Queen or ACDC Foo Fighters?
Speaker 4:That was random. Queen, acdc anthony, queen mark. You know my answer queen lou, acdc me and lou are always on the same page.
Speaker 3:90% of the time we're on the same page mark gets destroyed every time we do this that's's why I'm stuck in introduced every show I get it.
Speaker 2:But on my phone, when I text you guys, it's Mark and Lucy. I give you guys time, jesus.
Speaker 1:If I'm going to lose out to anybody, I'm honored to lose out to Lou.
Speaker 2:Okay, nah, stop sucking up. All right, here you go, Anthony. This is this is going strong vocals or powerful instrumental. So an example is, say, freddie Mercury music, big vocals or more like Jimi Hendrix, obviously like stepping on a very heavy guitar.
Speaker 1:Yeah let's go with Freddie. Big vocals, strong vocals yeah, tough one, really tough, because I'm a prog guy, you know. But even prog has strong vocals, so I'll go with strong vocals.
Speaker 4:Same Strong vocals, yep.
Speaker 1:You can't, you can't, you can't. Yeah, you're going to go with vocals, I know you, yeah that's true. Scott, when's the last time you listened to?
Speaker 2:I'm not a big Queen guy, but this is just the example they used.
Speaker 1:When's the last time you listened to YYZ from Rush? I don't know.
Speaker 2:Does Geddy Lee is that strong vocals? I think so.
Speaker 4:I think so, I think so Okay.
Speaker 2:All right, anthony Rock, from the 70s or the 80s, 80s, with authority.
Speaker 1:He says it with authority, mark, I'm a child of the 80s but I grew up with my sisters. I got to say 70s is where I go more, but they're both good, they're both good, they're both good good lou.
Speaker 4:That's tough. I mean to me with.
Speaker 2:The 80s was up to a point, so I don't I say 70s yeah, oh, by the way, anthony, these two guys like see the chairs they're in they're like lou got me on those people chairs like they got these big, comfortable. They can't sit in a regular office chair like this. They end up rocking back and forth.
Speaker 3:We were in a bed with tissues and it looked like an inhaler and some Vicks. You said one of the funniest things.
Speaker 4:I was in a hospital bed or something. What?
Speaker 3:did he say, and he said one of the funniest things.
Speaker 4:Oh, I was in a hospital bed or something. Oh Jesus, what did he say? That was you. I was in the living room. It looked like it had medical supplies next to me. It looked like there was an oxygen thing. You're like Lou, are you in hospice care or something?
Speaker 2:All right, let's see what do we got? Okay, anthony, Southern rock or glam rock.
Speaker 3:Southern Mark, southern Southern poker.
Speaker 1:Southern poker.
Speaker 4:What do you want, lou? Call me the breeze.
Speaker 2:Ah, okay, yeah, I got to go with southern rock yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm not a big glam guy.
Speaker 2:Glam rock fits like a purpose. T-rex is cool. There's certain times that Glam Rock is good but if you're going to listen to it, constantly. It's definitely got to be yeah. So let me see, All right, do you enjoy which one? Do you like better Concept albums like the Wall, or a hit-packed album like Rumors?
Speaker 3:Me yeah, oh the Wall.
Speaker 2:So you like concept albums? That was the question. Concept albums over albums that have like five hits on it, concept, concept.
Speaker 1:Mark Concept and the Wall is probably my favorite concept album luke not to be promoting, say, crash crash commercialism.
Speaker 4:But if a good record I like has some radio songs on it, I'll go with that, because I have no concepts myself. I'm I'm conceptless, the conceptualist I gotta go.
Speaker 2:I like a good concept album, but I I'd rather have a hit packed album. If I sit down and listen I want to hear and I always say on albums back in the day they would say what say there's 10 songs on an album on average, on average five on each side. If you got four to five good songs out of that album, that's a fucking good album. The way I looked at it, concept albums can get a little too convoluted for me. You know we're talking the wall. That that's like the yes, fucking concept album. The who were great at concept albums, you know yeah, you have to be into, into the concept I mean 2112, some pretty high.
Speaker 4:I like some of the songs. I didn't care about the concept. Yeah, I mean, the lamb lies down on broadway. I didn't care about the concept. I think you're safer with the hits. Yeah, you know, tommy had an interesting conceptual story. I think it was just more. Even in discussion of it was more, I think someone just felt it was more. It was more interesting.
Speaker 2:You're right there, buddy me, did he just drop out who me?
Speaker 1:Oh, he's pushing it. He's got his guitar, he's pushing it, you're going to get kicked off, man. Watch out, watch out, watch out. Don't play the guitar.
Speaker 2:All right, let's see.
Speaker 3:I was going to play YYZ, come on.
Speaker 1:Let me get my guitar, no All right, anthony.
Speaker 2:What do you like? Grunge music or alternative rock?
Speaker 3:I go alternative.
Speaker 1:Alternative Mark. I'll go with alternative. It's more interesting.
Speaker 4:All right, lou, wasn't grunge considered part of alternative.
Speaker 2:Yeah, nah, they broke their own ground, man.
Speaker 4:So what do you consider alternative?
Speaker 2:Alternative is like James Addiction and you know.
Speaker 4:REM was alternative. The Cure was alternative I'll go alternative.
Speaker 2:The Cure was alternative. How about Blue?
Speaker 4:October.
Speaker 1:God, I forgot about them.
Speaker 3:I walked into B&S yesterday and every other song is Blue October. I'm like this guy's got some. What a voice yeah.
Speaker 2:That, to me, is alternative. This is going to be an interesting one mark. Here we go, here we go. This is this was made for this show. Right now. This question all right, anthony, what do you like better, a killer drum solo or a shredding guitar solo? This I didn't. This is what came up. Look at what, what we got. What's the answer? I think we know the answer. Come on, guitar.
Speaker 4:Come on.
Speaker 2:You know what it is.
Speaker 1:Mark, this is tough because I've always loved drums. So if you said Neil Peart, I'd be like, of course, the drum solo. But most drum solos were an excuse to go get a beer, especially in the 70s, whereas guitar Rick Emmett, rock and Roll Machine. That's one of the best eight-minute guitar solos. I'll go with guitar solos.
Speaker 2:I think we know what Lou's going to say.
Speaker 4:When I think guitar solos, I just think Burt Reynolds.
Speaker 2:Here we go, bringing it full circle, buddy.
Speaker 4:I have no idea. I do remember we shot out with paintballs and a BB rifle. I wasn't going to say I don't even like drum solos.
Speaker 2:I don't even like drum solos.
Speaker 4:That can be interesting. I've seen some of the older guys like Buddy Rich. Three minutes, get me all three minutes tops Anyway. So we're going to say you like drum solos.
Speaker 3:Three minutes, get me all three minutes. Topps Anyway, all right.
Speaker 2:So we're going to say you like?
Speaker 4:My answer is Burt Reynolds.
Speaker 2:So both of them can be fucking, both of them can be annoying, both of them can be tedious, both of them can be One I don't think is any better than the other if they're not good, right. It can be Like M moby dick, you would look forward to seeing that drum solo in concert.
Speaker 4:There's no doubt and then toad oh so, scott, I got a good point when, when the masters do the drum solos, yeah, that's one thing seeing, even though in the jazz realm, buddy rich. I mean, the guy was a freak, yeah, um, but it's like you know people who are not on that level, the drum solo, some club drummers and stuff. The redundancy kicks in, I'm talking about me. I have such an attention issue, I'm like shit, what am I doing?
Speaker 1:I can make an observation. There's two Canadian power trios, rush and Triumph. Rush obviously Neil Peart smokes out Gilmore, because Gilmore's drum solo is where the are you ready to rock and roll? Boom, boom, boom, boom, yeah. But when Triumph? When Rick Emmett did his guitar solo on Rock and Roll Machine. If you've never heard it, it's a tour de force. He's playing unaccompanied. He does jazz, he does heavy metal, he does everything. I looked forward to that as much as I looked forward to Neil Peart's drum solo, and I never got tired of Neil Peart's drum solo. You know what I found?
Speaker 2:out today. Anthony, you know who lives here in Boca. There's some.
Speaker 3:Nico.
Speaker 2:McRain, really, yeah, jason Bonham lives in Boca. Some guy yeah, jason barnum lives in boca. Uh, some guy from uh, uh, from uh. What's your, what's?
Speaker 4:your heavy metal group there, mark uh with the guy that flies the plane.
Speaker 2:No, the guy that flies the plane.
Speaker 4:Iron maiden. I think it's a guy for nico mcbrain, the drummer lives, yeah, lives in boca, uh I don't know who the fuck that is.
Speaker 2:I'm not a heavy metal guy.
Speaker 3:He's Iron man.
Speaker 4:I love Iron man.
Speaker 1:Very handsome man.
Speaker 2:Is he the one that owns what? Is it Rock and Roll Ribs or something like that? There's a restaurant.
Speaker 3:Yeah, rock and Ribs, rock and Ribs, oh wow.
Speaker 1:Cool.
Speaker 2:I think I got to go to Boca. I think I got to come down this guy today was telling me that I met at this veterans networking thing and the guy's like, yeah, he lives in Boca. He's like he starts rattling off these people, these rock stars that live in Boca, like out here, out west, where I am, yeah, because, this is where the rich people live, sorry, just saying, just saying, that's why I'm in Pearl River, new York, because I'm poor. West Boca separates from Boca proper. We're like no, we're West Boca, motherfucker.
Speaker 4:That's why I live with the Cracker Ass Crackers in Appalachia.
Speaker 2:No matter where you look at it, it's the mean streets of Boca, right, Anthony? Why don't you come up?
Speaker 4:my way.
Speaker 2:Why don't you come up this way?
Speaker 3:All three of you guys got pretty mouths, I gotta tell you. Oh my god.
Speaker 2:Alright, let's see a couple more. All right, Do you like rock bands with male lead vocalists or female lead vocalists? Me?
Speaker 1:male. Yeah, mark, that's a tough one. I love heart, but majority is yeah, male, I'll go with male.
Speaker 2:I'd say so too, I love female singers. For some reason, you love their mouths.
Speaker 4:I do too.
Speaker 2:No one has a mouth like Carly Simon. I've always said, you know that Anthony Carly Simon is the greatest mouth in the history of music. Greatest mouth, they'll tell you. I'm infatuated with her mouth. Well, now she looks like an old guy, but she's not really. She looks like Steven Tyler.
Speaker 4:Actually he looks like her Kind of If they sat next to each other, they'd look like sisters.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but in her day she had the best mouth in music. Sheryl Crow has a good mouth too. See now Mark got me on the mouth things. I did it. I sneaked that in. Pay attention to it I disagree with Sheryl Crow. Great mouth she has a their mouth.
Speaker 3:I'm not hearing nothing.
Speaker 2:You know where Veruca Salt came from, right the name.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it came from.
Speaker 2:Willy Wonka, willy Wonka, yep, yep, let's see. All right, what do you like better? Guitar duels like Lynyrd, skynyrd and kind of how the Eagles had it going for a little while, or harmonized vocals and the Eagles could do both actually Harmonized vocals, anthony or guitar duels.
Speaker 3:Harmonized vocals.
Speaker 1:Mark, I'm not a fan of. I like to hear one guitarist going crazy. So, yeah, I'm going to go with harmonized vocals. Mark, I'm not a fan of. I like to hear one guitarist going crazy. So, yeah, I'm going to go with harmonized vocals.
Speaker 4:Ditto.
Speaker 2:I think we'll make it a clean sweep. Yeah, when it's done well, it's done well. Yeah, yeah, like the Beach Boys did it great. They were probably they might be, I don't know Would you say they're the best harmonized Top three, top three, top three.
Speaker 4:I mean, even some of these bands, like Sweet was kind of glammy but they were rock too, but they had the same thing, like Queen had. They had those stacked harmonies and harmony singing is a lot different. Some people think they're singing harmony and you're just singing the melody in a different octave. I find it's not as easy as you might think it is, but when they do it well, it's great.
Speaker 2:All right, anthony, vinyl or digital.
Speaker 3:Analog.
Speaker 1:When you say digital, what do you mean? Like an MP3? I'd say an MP3. Oh, no, no, no, because CD to me is the best part, or CD.
Speaker 2:So I'm saying that's digital CD is digital, all right.
Speaker 1:So Steve Wilson of Porcupine Tree said the CD will show you most accurately what they heard in the studio, so I'll go with digital but not MP3.
Speaker 4:No.
Speaker 1:MP3. Right Lou.
Speaker 3:I'd say CD player, because I don't have a record player. No, I'm not done yet.
Speaker 4:Mark jumped right past you. Yeah, see, see, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4:I'm sorry, I I don't know. Oh, the Bathtub.
Speaker 2:Shitters, the Bathtub Shitters Greatest name or the worst name? I'm still torn on that one. I'd have to go with vinyl.
Speaker 1:I just love vinyl.
Speaker 2:Oh, vinyl's great. Yeah, I love that. I love the sound of it. If I had a choice and I have a record, I have a turntable, I get some nice clip speakers, I got a moran's receiver yeah um, I pop it on every once in a while, yeah, and it just sounds. I guess this is you know what we are um I've got deep purple on vinyl here, so yeah, our generation was raised on vinyl right, so it's. It's more. There could be a nostalgia thing to it also.
Speaker 1:That just makes it I have the best record cover ever love beach from emerson lake it's pastel, yeah yeah, okay, emerson lake and glory holes, that's what they are.
Speaker 2:And since they're english.
Speaker 1:The hole in the record is the Glory Hall. Because they're English.
Speaker 2:Okay, let's see. All right, here you go. Anthony, would you rather attend a small, intimate rock show or a stadium show? Small, we'll say good seats. Small, yep, mark, small.
Speaker 4:Small Lou, the phobias, I will admit to large crowds, large crowds, fuck me up. I won't go, I can't go. The rest we can discuss at some other times, okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, intimate, intimate I'll call you About eight months ago I went and saw Nick Cave up boston, uh, doing his own thing.
Speaker 2:He had the bass player from radiohead was with him and uh, it was in this theater that probably had, like I don't know, 2000 at the most, maybe even less than that, and it was really fucking tight. It was really tight and those crowds are different. Those crowds are quieter. They're more into the music, they're more into listening. There's not. You don't really have opportunity to be an asshole. You're going to get called out if you do. Now I've been to these small theaters like the Orpheum Theater in Boston. I saw the cult and the other pretenders and those opportunities to kind of go a little crazier.
Speaker 4:But yeah, small theaters are good. It's the stadium arena stuff.
Speaker 2:The Jackie Glitter Theater down in miami it used to be fillmore uh uh. It was fillmore south or something like that. They call it fillmore east.
Speaker 1:I think the only time I like an arena.
Speaker 2:If it's a band that has a show like ping floyd, that's cool yeah, but I'm at the point in my in my life where I don't want to fucking sit in the nosebleeds for anything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, anything, you know who always sucked in an arena was Rush, because Alex Slicen had this very chorusy guitar sound. So when you saw them live it was very washed out. It was hard to hear them.
Speaker 2:You know good, let's see. All right, anthony, you like listening to music in your car or on headphones, neither Okay. So I guess when you're driving this fucking, you got NPR on or something.
Speaker 3:No distractions. It's too crazy here. It's like no. I want to hear what's going on around me, with all these hot rods coming down Federal Avenue, and I don't like sticking anything in my ears.
Speaker 2:Ah, okay. Well, we just got another colloquial phobia Things in my ears.
Speaker 4:I don't like them.
Speaker 2:I don't like them at all.
Speaker 1:What about over-the-ear?
Speaker 2:headphones like these. What about over-the-head headphones these? What about over-the-head?
Speaker 3:headphones. I'm good, I protected my hearing. I've made a lot of other people deaf. Mine's fucked up.
Speaker 2:My ears are ringing right now from tinnitus. It rings 24-7. I get that ringing in my ear.
Speaker 3:At night it gets louder too.
Speaker 2:It gets louder at night. It's not pleasant sometimes. That's why I'm manic sometimes. I guess the fucking tinnitus is driving me nuts. Blame the tinnitus.
Speaker 4:Blame the tinnitus I'm playing with the tinnitus on everything.
Speaker 2:Alright, let's see A couple more, a couple more.
Speaker 1:Hey Lou, he didn't ask us.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's right. Alright, I'm sorry, mark.
Speaker 1:I like to hear music Well that's a good answer.
Speaker 2:What?
Speaker 4:about you, Lou.
Speaker 1:I like music. Go ahead, mark. I'm sorry, my favorite way is speakers. I just like to sit in my music room, but second favorite is probably a car, because that's the only time I get peaceful besides my music room. You drive and you listen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:What do we got here? Lou didn't tell us what you like. Can I ask? I'll give an answer. Give an answer, lou the car. You know what I do with headphones at home I listen to movies because I'm watching the tv. I'm like I'm missing. I think we're going deaf. I'm missing dialogue. It seems more immediate way they're making them, but I'm also. Yeah, it's the way they make it. Also, you can hear all the other background stuff happening on the sides the stereo pan I uh, you're right, lou I, I thought it was me and I I do have from the military and the whole thing and hearing issues.
Speaker 2:But, um, yeah, I've watched movies lately. I'm like I I used to be able to watch this shit and I fucking understood what they were saying. Now it's like I don't know a lot of subtitles in my house, right, I just kind of got used to, so scott titles yeah, I told you, on monday I was watching that old movie, emperor of the north, with yeah, great marvin right, great, and what I liked about it was when they talked.
Speaker 1:You could hear them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was coming out crystal clear and you don't see that now now it's shit like I put, I put on my Bose, I got the 321 system and nice and boomy and clear and crystal. But I don't know my wife, she doesn't complain, but I don't know if she likes it as loud as I put it she doesn't trust me.
Speaker 4:When my son and I went to see the Deadpool Wolverine, there were points where, like well, that surround sound wolverine. There were points where, like well, that surrounds that, I look at how many little speakers they got around the theater, but it was.
Speaker 2:I said this is the way to hear it. There's an imax in fort lauderdale. Anthony, I don't know if you ever went to it. The imax in fort lauderdale, fucking 60 foot screen, like 380 speakers, it's one of the biggest ones in the whole country. There's only like two other ones this size. It's fucking amazing to see a movie in there. It's, I mean, and it's got that real stadium seating like you know. It's. It's high because you got a 60 foot screen right and you walk up like that. But I'm telling you, man, when you sit in those seats and that shit starts kicking in you're're in there.
Speaker 2:Nothing like it. That's a great movie experience right there. Here we go A couple more Anthony festivals or venues, legendary venues. Would you rather go to a festival, like a really good music festival, or go to a nice venue like a good theater or a good Madison Square Garden good venue. Yeah, I'm more into a venue like a good theater or a good like madison square garden good venue.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm more into a venue than a festival. But um, you know just. Uh, yeah, I also suffer from that. I'm looking for the exit sign, ah okay I really yeah, it's where it is mark.
Speaker 1:I went to the second Woodstock in the 90s, early 90s, the one in Saugerties, and as much as I loved it, I got really nervous when everyone would get angry at the same time, like there's no bathrooms and I was waiting for a riot and I swore. After that I said no more festivals, I just venues. I'll go to a concert. One concert, go in for a few hours, you go home, I just venues. I'll go to a concert. One concert, go in for a few hours, you go home that's yeah, lou, I think filthy, stinking hippies.
Speaker 4:When you mention festival, that's me that smell like taco seasoning a smell like tacos, a ripped army of mud people.
Speaker 2:I like venues back in the day I loved being in the mix. I'd be in that fucking mix, just eating it up, don't touch. Like I loved being in the mix. I'd be in that fucking mix Me too, just eating it up, don't touch me. I loved being in that whole fucking chaotic scene. I just liked it. Man, like gore. You go see fucking gore and you jump in the pit just because you want to get the fucking blood on you.
Speaker 1:That was like coming out of a gore concert.
Speaker 2:It was literally like who had the most blood on them the fake blood, you know, and it was just. I loved being in that whole fucking chaotic thing. I just fed off of it. So to me it's a good venue, but I think it's more. It was more exciting to be in those types of situations.
Speaker 3:Scott, our oldest remaining sister, Lisa, in San Diego. Her and her husband went to see Gore probably eight or nine years ago and said it was transformational.
Speaker 4:Oh, it's fucking wild.
Speaker 2:They were in it the lead singer, odorous Yerungus. He died. He died some time back and he always said I want a Viking funeral, like to send my body out on a boat. Why can't we do that like? Why don't they let us do that? How fucking great of a send-off would that be. But they didn't, so they. What they did was he got uh, cremated. Then they took his ashes, I believe, and put it in a boat and sent the boat out and just down the lake and lit it on fire or something I think that grand theft parsons thing kind of ruined it.
Speaker 4:because if you're gonna steal the lake and lit it on fire or something, I think that Grand Theft Parsons thing kind of ruined it because if you're going to steal a body and burn it, you got to really burn the body. Don't leave half of it charred. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But yeah, the Gwarkons were fucking insane, Totally insane, and they had zero fucking filters. Like this milk cotton. This dude comes out in a giant milk cotton. It's like have you seen me? And like this milk cotton, this dude comes out of giant milk cotton.
Speaker 2:It's like have you seen me and it's like a dead baby on the side of these. They did everything they could to to just upset people, but we loved it. All right, let me see Lou went to go to the bathroom. See, all right, here we go. One more, two more. Let me see, all right, anthony, iconic frontman, or collaborative bands with like equal contributions, which would be like the Eagles, I guess Right, or you know, or somebody with just the lead singer.
Speaker 3:What Like John Mayer?
Speaker 2:No, like say the Rolling. Stones with an iconic front man, or because the the the Eagles, like, didn't have just a frontman, they had a couple of people singing songs. Actually, at one point three people, maybe four, singing songs. Right, so that kind of band or just straight frontman owning the stage.
Speaker 3:Three seconds to Mars. They were playing down here. I'm going to go front man after this one, All right.
Speaker 1:Mark, it's tough because, uh, an iconic front man. As long as the whole band is contributing, like the stones and Zeppelin, I will go with that Cause I grew up with Robert plant ingrained into my mind like that front man, aerosmith, right, and they all contributed, so I will go with that. But don't give me a band where the front man is everything, because that's a boring band, you know. So I will go with front man what do you consider a front man?
Speaker 2:where a band, where the front man is everything? You know what?
Speaker 1:the metal years in the 80s there was the iconic front man and they weren't really doing yeah. Well, I used to be the biggest Priest fan in school and I totally just can't get into him anymore. You know, it's the same thing retread over and over again.
Speaker 4:How many of us knew he was gay? Going way back I knew it.
Speaker 1:I knew it back in the 70s or early 80s. I could see it, leather Daddy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. All right, here we go. This is one of my favorite questions and I've asked this question in the past. What was the previous question? I'm curious. Hey, isn't this Lou?
Speaker 4:What do you like better?
Speaker 2:Well, Lou got up to go to the bathroom. He might miss a little bit of the class.
Speaker 4:There was a clean-up on aisle 13.
Speaker 2:I'm looking out for you, lou Lou a band with an iconic front man or a band with collaborative singers. I use, say, the Rolling Stones or the Eagles, where there's three lead singers.
Speaker 4:The Beatles, the band I go with, the collaborative singers anytime. Collaborative, Absolutely Point. There are exceptions, of course. I always had a thing about front men that didn't play an instrument.
Speaker 2:It's not easy, that's what separates them from the rest of the bands when you've got that guy that can fucking like Scott Whelan. I'm telling you Scott Whelan was one of the fucking greatest front men ever. That dude could control a fucking stage. You know who's a great front man? Shirley Manson from Garbage.
Speaker 2:I watched Shirley just take control of everything and that's a fucking lineup behind her. That is no joke and garbage. She fucking commands the stage. That's hard to do to be able to just have that charisma. That people follow you around. You know they just like every move you make. Scott wheeling could fucking control the stage. Just that's what makes a great front man stand out from all the rest. Then you get these front men that just decided one day, like Bono, I want to play the guitar now, because I don't like just standing there, not playing Billy Joel too, yeah, I just want to play the guitar now. And you see these guys fourth album in all of a sudden they're out there, they're up on stage and you've seen them like four times and they all of a sudden, dude's got a guitar.
Speaker 4:You're like to me that's it's like saying, roger, watch roger daltrey play guitar. It's kind of weird, right, right man, he doesn't. He doesn't have to play guitar.
Speaker 2:I mean, he can do whatever he wants, I'd have to say a great front man, I'm just okay yeah, you know what I?
Speaker 4:have to With REM. Perry played an early REM video from David Letterman show last week and you know he was just like a almost a wallflower, so you get to watch him become a great front front guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you have to be a performer, I mean you get the guys, this one in particular that just comes out, has the. No one wears a parker better than Liam Gallagher. And he purposely, he said this, he did this purposefully and that became his thing. He stood there with his hands behind his back and he just sang. But the way he did it, it's the fucking coolest thing, how he kind of crafted that Very cocky walk out with that kind of crafted that yeah, very cocky Walk out with that kind of Conor McGregor walk, you know. And then he just turned around and, fucking, he just stand in front of the mic but he fucking commands it, he commands your attention. That's not easy to do, right? All right, here we go. Here's my question. Here's the final question Anthony, would you rather see a legendary rock band in their prime or that same band when they were up and coming like On the Rise, like, say, a U2,?
Speaker 2:a war album as opposed to the Zoo TV.
Speaker 3:On the Rise.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3:I refer to them right before Foreign Run came out, and that was phenomenal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:Mark, as a guy that missed seeing Queen or Zeppelin. I was supposed to see Zeppelin on that last tour because my sister had tickets and Bonham had to fucking die. I would say in their prime, because that's how I remember these bands. So I would love to have seen Zeppelin in their prime, or queen, you know all right, lou, older band or younger band, that's basically the question because I've never seen it.
Speaker 4:I would love to see like certain bands on their way up.
Speaker 2:I worked for a guy he saw the beatles at the cavern club, whoa, and like that's pretty fucking cool okay, so that's the cool thing to say I saw them when they were young, right, but I've seen some bands when they were young and I'll use you two as an example when they're young, and then when they're older. And when they're older they're just better performance, they put on a better show, they're cleaner, everything is neater, it's more tied in.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, it's like you two learned to play their instruments as a band. They got together and they couldn't.
Speaker 2:So yeah, they were a different kind of band Right, but I saw them during their early early years.
Speaker 4:You had Bonham's balls on your neck. I mean tell that story again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I will tell this you're gonna.
Speaker 4:You're gonna have liam gallagher's balls on your neck this year. I, I feel it, I know.
Speaker 2:I can only hope, I can only hope liam gallagher's balls are on the back of my neck and they smell like tobacco hey, anthony, one of these days when I go to the shop, I'll tell you the story about.
Speaker 1:I had bono on my shoulders in front of a sold out fucking uh auditorium there was no people there oh well, according to,
Speaker 2:jack uh, according to jack, 30 of us went, but 300 saw that that happened so didn't you find a picture of that? It was never a picture found. No, I thought you said there was no, it was like 82 so yeah, well, that's it for the. We had a lot of them today. Chat gpt did me good on this one. Why don't you try?
Speaker 2:and come up with your own next time, because it's a fucking lot of thinking and sometimes I don't want to do that, so maybe I should help. I'll try to think of something. Yeah, good luck with that. Come on Alright. How's that, lucy? He just volunteered. Next week Mark is going to have 15 15, 15,. At least you make the calls. Fuck me.
Speaker 1:Good luck thinking of these things. They're not as easy as you think, because some of them come out too easy. Do you like black or blue, do you? Like sunrise or sunset.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right. What do we want to move on to, anthony. If you want to stick around, we're probably going to talk about this Nick Cave album. If you don't, you know that's.
Speaker 3:It's all up to you, buddy nick cage, here we go should I?
Speaker 2:you know what I'm just, I'm just gonna you know what, I'm just gonna do it right penalty box penalty box penalty box what the see? That see. I can only be nice. It's fucking under 90 minutes. I was very good at being nice.
Speaker 1:Now I'm at the 90 minute mark.
Speaker 2:I'm fucking done with it.
Speaker 1:I think Anthony set a record. The first time you were on the show I didn't get put in the penalty box.
Speaker 2:on my second show, Well, because I wanted to keep you guys around. I didn't want to scare you away, even though you knew it existed.
Speaker 1:Is that a strat?
Speaker 2:Alright, Anthony, give us a solo and then see how that goes.
Speaker 4:Put it away.
Speaker 2:It sounds like a shitty boy's to call the album.
Speaker 4:On the phone.
Speaker 2:It's not coming through. You know what that sounds like. That sounds like fucking Primus.
Speaker 4:Sounds like a Primus album. It does. He's playing Cities on Flame by Abolition. It's not coming through, no.
Speaker 1:Bow bow, bow Ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da Bow bow, all right.
Speaker 2:All right. Well, we're going to move on to this. Wait, he disappeared. No, he just shut himself off. Oh, here he goes and he's back. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3:All right, buddy. Thank you very much. Am I out of the penalty box?
Speaker 2:You're out of the penalty box.
Speaker 4:Yes, it's an honor.
Speaker 3:Thank you very much. That was a lot of fun. You're putting on a great show. Thanks, man, you're insane.
Speaker 2:Well, your brother and doctor. Great addition they brought. Don't leave yet. Great addition they brought, and I tell them this in all honesty, I say at the end of every show I always thank them for their knowledge, for their contribution, but most of all for their friendship, because we've built a friendship even though we've never met personally, like face to face, but these guys have brought this podcast to the next level.
Speaker 2:I knew it the first time I fucking had them on. I said this is. I told my wife when I was done I, these guys are fucking gold, they're gold. I said they are going to bring this to the next level. And they did, they did and they still do. They still do. We are fool's gold. They've been on for 100 episodes, anthony, this is our 100th episode tonight.
Speaker 4:I can't believe that.
Speaker 2:Last week it was 100 episodes they've been on this podcast. I can't believe that Last week it was 100 episodes they've been on this podcast.
Speaker 1:That didn't count.
Speaker 2:Every Thursday Well, it's mostly been Thursdays. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Hey. I know my brother's got a steel trap up there. He's the professor.
Speaker 2:Now, anthony, I'm telling you right now, I tell you right now God forbid, god forbid anything ever happens to the professor.
Speaker 1:right, he already told me and I got it on tape, so you can't dispute this.
Speaker 2:I get his fucking notebooks. I don't care, I'll bring you to court. I got it on tape that he's going to give me his Lou. You promised them to me, right, Lou? I did. Thank you, oh boy.
Speaker 3:My word is my bond, I get those notebooks.
Speaker 1:You're now the substitute teacher.
Speaker 4:Anthony gets the telecaster there you go.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 2:Let's get away from this morbid conversation, by the way.
Speaker 4:Nestor, can you see the chats? There's a person up there that you know.
Speaker 1:I can't see him.
Speaker 2:Aside from the beautiful Tiffany Van Hill. There's a person up there that you know I can't see him there. It is Aside from the beautiful Tiffany Van Hill.
Speaker 4:There's Tiffany Below, the beautiful Tiffany Below is. Perry Dedevich.
Speaker 2:AI Perry Dedevich.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm on a Android right now.
Speaker 4:Right right.
Speaker 3:I'm learning how to choose.
Speaker 4:Perry Dedevich says BO BOC warning, zebra warning yeah.
Speaker 1:Warning, warning.
Speaker 2:Danger danger Scott.
Speaker 1:McClain danger.
Speaker 4:Anthony, it's great meeting you.
Speaker 1:I've heard a lot about you.
Speaker 3:It's great finally meeting you, hey guys, thank you very much what days are you there?
Speaker 2:What days are you there?
Speaker 3:Every day, except for Monday, tuesdays and Thursdays, until season picks up. Okay, it is the highest quality. I work in some of the best delis in Jersey and New York this place, everything the amount of food that's coming out of there is astounding. And it's not a big place, either it's not a big place but it puts out some good stuff.
Speaker 4:It has to be a pickle place.
Speaker 3:Fresh mozzarella broccoli, rabe sauteed spinach marinated roasted pepper.
Speaker 2:Not a big broccoli rabe fan Never was. I don't get it.
Speaker 3:You got your broccoli pots. You got your Heineken pots? Yeah, but yeah, just real, genuine good people, and I need to stay with them. You know, salad has done very well for me. I've been here less than two months and a shark infested waters and, uh, I finally feel at home, that's for sure.
Speaker 2:Good Good, we'll hook up one night for dinner too.
Speaker 3:That would be awesome.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah. And Lou, it's kind of weird that you're going to meet Scott before I do. I know right.
Speaker 2:I know Right, what we'll do is maybe before that. But my new studio that I'm getting I get the keys October 1st I'm going to start putting it together. We can hook up and then check it out and then go somewhere on Atlantic Avenue and have dinner or something, any place but vick and angeles, that's no problem there no problem, there, now I got fired.
Speaker 3:Let's talk about parker now I got fired because a guy od'd and they had a narc in him and uh, I leg swiped him and put a chair on him and it was on camera.
Speaker 2:There you go, you're fired.
Speaker 3:He was running yeah, they're like we're going to let you go for a week. I'm like, nah, I can't deal with this. And the train going by. But, guys, you're doing a great job. All right, buddy, thank you, all right everybody, absolutely.
Speaker 2:I appreciate you coming on there, love you love you too, there you go, brotherly love, there you go. Alright, the Van Halen brothers, everybody the Van Halen brothers no the. Caligula brothers alright, we'll talk to you later. Anthony alright, buddy, there you have it all right all right we'll talk to you later, anthony, see you all right, buddy, take care guys oh, there you have it, whoa.
Speaker 3:There you have it, whoa I finally met my siblings there.
Speaker 2:That's a yes yeah you did yeah yeah, that's funny, you liked that the whole intro. I had it all set up with the emergency broadcast that was that was weird.
Speaker 4:That was weird. I said scott getting a hurricane somewhere out of nowhere even patty didn't understand what was going on. No, remember the time you opened your door.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was the best rain or something it was crazy out there, I'm like lightning and all we see is we see you do this, you.
Speaker 1:You know, it's like I think we thought like a flying saucer got you or something, yeah, yeah yeah, that's that Boca, look at.
Speaker 2:Patty said nice to meet Anthony. Yeah, tiffany says hope you have a good evening. Give the horses some love for me, all right, she won't be at the farm tomorrow, okay, all right. Always nice seeing the beautiful Tiffany, all right. So let's do a little. Have a little conversation about Nick Cave, aka the posh prince of darkness, the gothic maestro, the king of the bad seeds, the caveman lord of melancholy, the bard of despair, the velvet voice, the Mr Red Right Hand, the dark poet. The Bard of Despair, the Velvet Voice, mr Red Right Hand, the Dark Poet. The Crooning Phantom, the Noir Troubadour, the Lyrical Alchemist, the Deep Cave, the Gothic Crooner, the Midnight Storyteller, the Howling Sage, the Murder Balladeer which is true, he does great murder songs. Nobody does a fucking murder ballad better than Nick Cave.
Speaker 2:He's got an album called Murder Ballads right, yes, the Sorrowful Shaman and the Melodic Mystic. I like personally, the Posh Prince of Darkness. Yeah, nick Cave is. How do you describe his music? Right, it's brooding, it's dark, it's very poetic. How do you describe his music? Right, it's brooding, it's dark, it's very poetic, it's very. Uh, he to me, to me is. I always say Morrissey is the greatest lyricist I've ever listened to, just if you listen to the, the, the intelligence of his lyrics and how he crafts them. But Nick cave is, he's just like a poet, the way he tells, he sings and talks better than anybody. But he has a good voice. But that's his style. So, and he covers everything, covers everything. Storytelling is a big range of styles that he can cover. He does a lot of religious and uh well, and blues like blues. He goes deep into that gospel like a gospel thing, because yeah yeah, he can be religious and you know.
Speaker 2:So he just came out with his new album, right and uh, I told you guys to listen to it. It's a mad God, wild, god, wild, god, yeah, and Mark what did you think of it?
Speaker 1:I'm going to try not to talk too much, because when I put it on, when I started listening to it first of all, I was having a bad morning. I was kind of of anxious, I had anxiety. I put this thing on. I fuck you not when I say this. Back in 1984, when I put on the vinyl of the final cut, I had a, a feeling. I haven't had that feeling since, until I listened to this it gave me the same feeling.
Speaker 1:Now, the reason the final cut was big to me was because it was about the soldiers. You know what was what happened in world war ii. That was as much of a part of it. Now I haven't had a chance to really dissect the lyrics, but I knew that from the music. He's singing some heavy stuff yeah and I also did a little, you know research and it's he lost both sons and so I brought that into it right he lost two sons, right yeah, he lost his.
Speaker 2:Uh, he wrote skeleton tree after his 15 year old son and skeleton tree. I'll tell you about that one in a minute. Yeah, um sun, what is it? He fell off cliffs in brighton.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in brighton, that's down south of england. They said he was doing lsd.
Speaker 2:He was on acid.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah with a friend and I just I felt for clapton when he lost his. This is like Carbo, you know, Um, and I've read that people consider what's that album? Skeleton tree.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The one after and this one to be a trilogy.
Speaker 2:I don't know if that's true or not.
Speaker 1:They sound, they have a very similar sound but yeah, and I immediately said this album to me. It's going to stick with me for the rest of my life and I'm going to deep. It's going to stick with me for the rest of my life and I'm going to get into it more, I'm going to understand it more as time goes on. It's a fantastic album and I wouldn't recommend it to everybody.
Speaker 2:No, but he's very like.
Speaker 1:He knows how to really go deep on you when you're listening to his music.
Speaker 2:It's a great album I can me of skeleton tree, but skeleton tree. There's a song on skeleton tree and I know we're not talking about skeleton tree, but it's worth if you want to listen to a fucking really intense album. It's very melodic, it's very well well done, it's well produced, it's great lyrics, he's deep, he really. But that fucking album gutted me, fucking gutted me, dude, like literally. So I'm just going to bring this up. It's unfortunate but it's part of my life. So 12 years ago today, I lost my first wife and I didn't know, you know, when Skeleton Tree came out and I didn't know, you know, when skeleton tree came out. I didn't really listen to it at first and, uh, I, you know you jump around from, from, you know, a musician, musician or band to band, and I came across skeleton tree and this song on there is called girl in amber and he sang that when I went up to in boston, when I went up to see it with him, just on the piano, and I fucking cried. I fucking cried during the show, like you know how fucking good you have to be to do that to somebody. Yeah, you know how talented and how fucking like, just above, a step above everybody, to fucking dig into somebody and just really hit them. Yeah, he's a fucking master, yeah at that. You know, listening to skeleton tree and and also this Wild God, it was for me it was like a rite of passage because he hits you out of nowhere but then he can change it up. Yeah, he can change it up and it's a different type of song. It's a different music about a different thing. But I just think Nick Cave is very underrated. He's never going to make the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2:This album is good. It's pretty funny. He brought something full circle. Um, on the song wild god he mentions, he says uh, he went down to jubilee street to look for a girl but she died in a bed flat in 93. That's going back to the song jubilee street. If you ever want to hear, listen to that song. Jubilee street is a fucking great song, right, and talks about this girl b and it's. It tells a story like he's another one. He's a storyteller, yeah, and he tells this story about jubilee street and this girl and this guy and the Russian mobs moving into town. It's just a really well-crafted song. So I like the fact that he came back on that and then he kind of put it to rest. He said she died in 93.
Speaker 1:It's like a universe. His songs become like he kind of finished it.
Speaker 2:Like don't, he didn't have to Right. Whoever, who does that like? Who closes the door on a? On another song david bowie did yeah right before he died just to ashes.
Speaker 1:He closed the door on major the last album right before he died. He, he was referencing that too. Yeah, because if you see the video, you see major tom in the dirt on the moon.
Speaker 2:You know it's, so that's. That's very rare, lou. What did you think of the album?
Speaker 4:it's the first god it's the first um nick cave record I've listened to. I've heard a fair amount of his stuff interspersed. You know, yeah, on the radio. Um, I like his voice because I like those. You know there's a time in rock I got tired of the higher pitch singers. A lot of times I said where's someone with like a big, booming baritone? You know where's that place in music. You know there's always like an opera, you know, or other things are in the folk realm. But so there's a guy you know edgier music, definitely on the alternative side. I said, um, it's funny and I read a little and I also on spotify, I listened to it. Some of the songs were getting hung up on Spotify. Oh, okay, toward the end, so I did hear most of the record though. It's very good. It's a beautiful record.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's beautiful, right, perfect, perfect words. It's emotional, it is yeah, he knows how to do it and the Bad Seeds are a Talk about a fucking talented band.
Speaker 4:It's a good band, it's interesting, the um. I remember this is one of his more joyful albums and when I first started listening I said, well, if this is joyful, like, I'm really like, because I never heard a whole album, I've heard cuts. You know what is the whole unjoyful album of him, like you know. So I can. I kind of imagine now, right, um, I was, has he ever been compared to bowie at all? Because I was hearing it and not in a derivative way, but I was hearing. I was hearing something kind of bowie-esque in his vocal delivery. But I said not a, not a derivative thing, not like a you know copying or a job, but I heard something which I thought was good. Um, I heard in some ways I heard a little cold play in there, uh, just some of the musical passages, something.
Speaker 4:But I don't think that he's been around much not, not, not pop at all, though I would write you know who I related him to in my mind, just because my mind's fucked up.
Speaker 1:I kind of like thought of a tom waits feel on some of those songs that's a good comparison. That's a fair comparison, because maybe yeah, someone said do you, can you recommend a tom waits album to me? I'll be like no, I can't. I have no idea if you're gonna like it or not yeah, he's also. He's a piano player yeah, yeah, it's a whole different yeah, it's a whole different approach.
Speaker 4:I mean, if you write from the piano and that's your main it's, you know, tom waits, if that music wouldn't exist without being he did.
Speaker 2:Uh, during the pandemic, nick cave had a great fucking series that he would put it was on I believe it was on youtube, it was the red right hand diaries, right and fans would oh, that's a website, yeah and then I was reading that good stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like he was very interactive and he he explained it when he played this concert up in boston. He actually explained some of the songs like he would. It was just one of those things where nobody was saying a fucking word. That's, you know the way it was, and you just listen to him talk and someone would yell something out and he'd respond like he was pretty funny, you know. Um, but nick cave is, is he's kind of a? Uh, he's kind of a an enigma, he's his own. Nobody does what he does right the way he does it. You know, and that's why he'll never be in the rock hall of fame, because his type of music isn't mainstream. No, no, you know it's not mainstream, but it's. If you listen to it, you're like damn, like mark sent me a text the other night saying now you got me going on this nick cave. Oh, fuck you.
Speaker 1:I am gonna go down that rabbit hole and I and I ordered this album from amazon and I am looking for because you know me, I like 5.1. I would love to see if there's a 5.1 release, because it would be fantastic. So I'm keeping my eyes open there's something I mean.
Speaker 2:Let me uh put this on for a second. Hold on one second here. Let's turn this on. This is my favorite song on on this album. Um oh, by the way, I got. I got hit by youtube with a. It was a copyright, but it's not a strike, it was only like banned in certain territory, territories. It's like, okay, like puerto rico. Uh, patty asks yeah, listen to Skeleton Tree or his latest album Wild Gods. But this is my favorite song on the album. Let's see Wild God, here we go. I just love this song.
Speaker 4:Frogs Scott. That's my favorite song.
Speaker 2:That's the one I kept hanging up on getting hung up on Very good song, so I'm going to get nailed for this, but I don't care.
Speaker 1:No, because we put a lot of work into the show. Don't nail it. Come on, think of us, scott.
Speaker 2:Think of us, just love this fucking song, man.
Speaker 1:He really sounds like Bowie right there, so crushed his brother's head in with the boulder, Like he's like him and Marcy.
Speaker 2:They can go in these weird fucking places man a joyful record.
Speaker 1:this is a joyful record, yeah well, and you know what lou steve wilson's joyful record was about a woman that was found dead in her apartment two years after she died. That was his joyful record. So there you go, yeah there's a concept record.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was a concept album yeah, so I I thought this was a great album. I mean, they're all I like it's. It's to me, it's a, it's epic I can listen to every song on this album just like skeleton tree. I can listen to every song I agree.
Speaker 4:And this guy right off the top said I've never heard a whole album of his. I liked every song, whatever going it's. It's interesting. Well, you know it was recorded at brad pitt's recording studio wasn't really yeah, they recorded miraval in provence, in france, oh wow, and the guy in his the guy in his band. What's his name? Martin, some ellis or warren ellis? Yeah, warren ellis, yeah, genius, yeah, he's one of those. He plays every instrument, yeah he's a genius with the long gray beard.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're on tour right now in in um in europe, so I'm sure that they're going to come to the states I would recommend going to see them if he comes.
Speaker 4:My son had been listening to him last year, yeah, so I'm going to mention the new record if he hasn't heard it. But if they, if they come, I'm looking for a good show to take him to like some of the stuff here in Nashville. I don't think he might not like yeah, yeah and stuff, but I was thinking there's a it's, it's what it, but I think he, he, if you've seen the cave, he would definitely enjoy that.
Speaker 2:So, as I've said before, nobody in music, in any genre of music, says motherfucker better than Nick cave. You got to go watch on YouTube. All right, if you're listening to this, when you get a chance, watch on YouTube from it's live. What was that? What's the place in Texas that they do those concerts from? Live from Austin City Limits, austin City Limits. Yeah, watch his performance of Stagger Lee on Austin City Limits limits. The fucking, what a performance. And again, nobody says motherfucker better than nick cave, not even me.
Speaker 4:And I love those words. What about samuel jackson?
Speaker 2:nick cave. Just the way he says motherfucker is just like in that song nobody can fucking beat it. Nobody can beat it. But that's a good good. Samuel Jackson is a good one.
Speaker 1:I'll give you that.
Speaker 2:I'll give you that, but watch, stagger Lee, you're not doing it in song, though. Yeah, yeah, it's just Nick Cave In this album, you know? I just popped it on and I was surprised that it's on Spotify. Yeah, it is. It's a new album, so they must have paid him for that. They must have paid him a lot for that, because usually when an album gets released right, yeah, I don't think. I think they would be losing money if they just released it on spotify for free well it came out on.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because it came out august 30th, right, so it's not been out that long. No, no, and so with that you know spotify could pay him too. I mean, you know he's not a he's not a high grossing artist. I would think you know he's got a tour.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, he sells out wherever he goes right, he plays bigger theaters bigger theaters. Yeah, he's not playing arenas, no, but I don't think his music is designed for for arenas either.
Speaker 4:No, I think he has played here at the orange pill, which is not steve wilson played blue yeah oh yeah, the circle jerks were here not too long ago there you go.
Speaker 2:Hey, mark, I told him listen to the go, watch the video when you get a chance of stagger lee on nick cave and the bad seeds from austin city limits he was on austin city limits.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no one says motherfucker, better than nick.
Speaker 2:Cave and prove me wrong after you watch the video. Come back next week and tell me I'm wrong. Okay, yeah it's funny.
Speaker 1:Who?
Speaker 1:did say samuel jackson, but I said nick cave, just at least the best of music he says motherfucker better than anybody it's funny when you texted me and lou and you said, listen to this album and do an album review and I started, then my son came up and he's like you know. I said, hey, scott told me to listen to nick cave. You know his new album and what do you think? Anthony said it's a great album. No, no, he didn't hear. He says, oh, the guy that does the peaky blinders title. So uh, you know he's like he's gonna get into it which is a great video too.
Speaker 2:Fucking bizarre video, yeah, but it's a great video 26 years old.
Speaker 1:26 years old. He knew him, you know yeah great fucking song, too great song.
Speaker 2:I was a little apprehensive at first when I heard you know, you see, peaky blinders takes where right after world war one which, by the way, they're making a movie too. They're in the process, they're gonna start filming this month actually nice, uh, to finish it off. But uh, you hear this like current version. You know this current music in the post-world war one. Yeah, but I'm like this worked. And then one season they had pj harvey singing. Those two used to date, by the way. Yeah, and I love pj harvey, yeah, love pj harvey.
Speaker 1:Talk about another artist who doesn't get enough recognition but they stay over, I think, in europe you know what, when you have a good loyal following and I hate to keep bringing it up, steve wilson he'll come to this country and tour and he knows that he could play the capital theater in portchester and sell it out you are making all right. If money is not the number one, but you're making a living, you can tour. Yeah, you could pay your musicians and make money. Maybe that's better than being a big arena act, because when you're a big arena act you're always having to top yourself. You always have to come up with the next big thing. But if you're back that band, that that plays the smaller theaters, and your fans love you, you're saying and nick cave comes out every show.
Speaker 2:He's got a fucking suit on, I see yeah, he's just that smooth motherfucker. He's like a a more intelligent Robert Palmer he reminds me of the base he was very meticulously dressed, you know, and Nick Cave just comes out with the the suit with the big white collar and he just hair slicked back. He's just got that look. He's got this really fucking evil look.
Speaker 1:Remember that bass player for Huey Lewis.
Speaker 2:That's who he reminds me of. He looks really white. I don't remember that.
Speaker 1:Huey Lewis had that bass player with the slicked back hair. Yes, he did.
Speaker 4:Cipollina, they could be brothers. Actually they're very pale they're extremely white.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I think we both, we all agree that it's. It's a good album.
Speaker 1:It's a good album, it's uh another thing I say I like about it is that, just like uh final cut and roger waters amused to death, every song, even though they're not the same, every song is a unique universe. Every song is unique. I will never get tired of it for that reason and I'll always return to it and listen to it in one session. That's an album that demands to be listened to like yeah like dark side of the moon.
Speaker 1:It's just, yeah, that it's incredible and thank you for turn finally turning me on to him because I didn't listen to him yeah, and it's just uh again, you listen to those albums and you listen to and it's you're like damn like where was this fucking guy?
Speaker 2:like where was I when this guy broke? You know, he started with the band in australia called birthday party, yeah, and then he kind of broke off from there and he had. He had a good career in the 80s into the 90s he played the greenwich village a lot, all those.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you see nick cave in some of the bigger, more, bigger clubs. But you know, in the 80s, you know he was, it was like almost being a local artist a lot of ways.
Speaker 1:I remember seeing him in the village voice yeah, the village voice was always in the cave.
Speaker 1:In the cave, that's where I'm from, the best yeah yeah, and and I researched him this week and I was reading up on you know his statements and I actually love his, his statements on religion. I love that he is, he observes it and there's a reason. And he also he says you know he, he says don't throw out the old traditions. I kind of get what he's saying. Like I really can. I like what he says. He also turned me on to a new podcast because I was reading his. What was that called the right red?
Speaker 2:right hand.
Speaker 1:He recommended a podcast of two guys from England that talk about history, Cause someone said do you ever wonder if you'll be on the wrong side of history? And he said well, there's a podcast, you got to listen to it. These two guys talk about historical things from what we thought. And they talk about historical things from what we thought and they kind of change it around like maybe it didn't happen that way. So yeah, I like storytelling yeah storytelling.
Speaker 2:History is storytelling. Yeah, the thing about nick cave is it's intelligent music. Yeah, it really is intelligent music. It is, yeah, intelligent. Listeners will get it and I'm not putting anybody down that might not like it, because it's a different genre, it's a different style, but lyrically there's you know, people there's, listeners, are on different levels. We're on a different level than the average listener, right? Yeah, yeah, we it's.
Speaker 2:This is part of our life, this is music, is our dna, it's our dna, yeah and so we will kind of look at music a little different than the average listener, right, and we'll analyze it and we'll break it down and we'll. You know, this is why I don't like this. Or you know, like we've all done it during this at one point in time in the last 100 episodes, and I've done it over 150 um, like you pull something out, you're like, yeah, but this part of the song, the way they do this, and then someone like oh shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, or this is why this is. You know, this is what I like about it and it's maybe a little nuance about the song. You know that you don't really catch. People don't really catch. Yeah, you guys have done it a hundred times to me with you know. Oh, that drum solo in the break and I that shit that I never would catch, but now I do perry and lou.
Speaker 1:Perry and lou have caused me to listen to Bread again. I didn't appreciate them.
Speaker 4:And a bunch of bands, a bunch of pop bands Bread.
Speaker 2:You just fucked up a great show Bread. This was a great fucking show At one hour and 59 minutes, you've got to bring out Bread. Yes, what the fuck. Ladies and gentlemen, Bread, bread and razor blades is well, I'm gonna fucking say you know it's funny, you hear a band for years and for years.
Speaker 4:Stop it. You know what he's looking for it he's gonna get it this penalty box.
Speaker 2:He's gonna get it. That's what he wanted. That's what he got. You want to see keith emerson's crotch, there you get it this penalty box. He's gonna get it. That's what he wanted, that's what he got you want to see keith emerson's crotch?
Speaker 2:there, you're in the penalty box too. Now it's just me on the screen, me and my beautiful studio. Yes, much better than bread and fucking emerson like in palma with disco tight pants on what the fuck I'll bring, the better. There we go. All right, yeah, you will look. You're both looking for it at the same time.
Speaker 2:That's a rare occasion but I got both of you motherfuckers there was a little teamwork. There wasn't there yeah, well, all right, gentlemen, let's try to tighten this up. I'm gonna do a real quick uh passover of uh this day oh shit, I didn't.
Speaker 1:Didn't know what's that. It's Passover.
Speaker 2:Jesus, you're lucky. I'm on my laptop right now. You would have been in the box.
Speaker 1:No, I'm lucky I'm not on last week, oh so check this out September 5th 2024.
Speaker 2:This is today. Oh shit, I've never, seen this before. What happened? Like they updated. The UK competition regulator launched an investigation into the sale of Oasis tickets, including the use of dynamic pricing. The Competition and Markets Authority, cma, was investigating whether ticket-selling platform Ticketmaster breached consumer protection law. External Dynamic pricing meant that on Ticketmaster, where tickets protection law external Dynamic pricing meant that on Ticketmaster, where tickets to the reunion tour were originally sold, prices rose in line with demand.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so dynamic ticket pricing just gets Ticketmaster the scalpers prices.
Speaker 2:By the time people get out of the queue, get into the queue, it's $300. Bullshit. In January last year, ticket master apologized to taylor swift and her fans during a us senate hearing. Well, guess what? They're not going to get away with it now.
Speaker 1:No, they can't apologize twice right, and three times that happened with bruce springsteen yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I like that.
Speaker 1:Fuck ticket master oh, again, when a ticket goes from $100 to $300, why is it legal? Because Ticketmaster's getting the money, but it's illegal if a scalper gets the money. It's the same thing. We're getting fucked the listeners.
Speaker 2:On this day in 2021, ricky Reynolds you know who Ricky Reynolds is Died at the age of 72. Founding member of Black Oak, arkansas.
Speaker 1:David Lee Roth's band.
Speaker 4:Black Rock of 72. Founding member of black oak arkansas, david lee roth's band black rock arkansas. Didn't they sing uh?
Speaker 2:yeah, one of those. Didn't they black oak arkansas? They smoked, didn't? Uh, let me see kim dandy they had another one too.
Speaker 4:They had another one it wasn't confused with like uh uh, brownsville Station and Ram-A-Lam yeah, it's got that kind of boogie beat 70s, look it.
Speaker 2:And on this day in 2016, an asteroid was named after Freddie Mercury Nice. Who's this guy? On this day in 2012, singer-songwriter Joe South, who had hits in the 60s and 70s, including games people play. Walk a mile in my shoes and I never promised you a rose. God died at the age of 72 yeah, uh.
Speaker 2:This day in 2008, a study of more than 36 000 people from around the world concluded that musical tastes and personality types were closely related. Of course, on the stay in 2006, the octic monkeys won this year's uk mercury prize for the album. Whatever people say I am, that's what I'm not my son-in-law's favorite band right below all these oasis yeah, my son loves that band too yeah, uh, let's see on the stay.
Speaker 2:In 2002, heather mill Mills McCartney's second wife accepted $50,000 liable damages from the Sunday mayor. The paper suggests that Mills acted dishonestly over the cash collected for an earthquake appeal. Oh, those deals. That's what happened with what's the name. No, Wyclef Jean from the Fugees. He did this whole thing about Haiti and the fundraising where they had the earthquake. Well, he got caught, I think, scamming some of that money.
Speaker 1:It was bad, he was Haitian yeah.
Speaker 2:And that's what the problem was. Yeah, yeah, this day in 1998, aerosmith scored their first US number one single with the Diane Warren written song I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing, oh God I know. On this day in 1998, manic Street Preachers scored their first number one UK song. On this day in 1994, oasis appeared at the Hacienda in Manchester to celebrate the launch of their debut album Definitely Maybe Great album. There was some people, there was three people, that did a fucking brilliant picture that they posted on x. They read, they redid the, the cover of definitely maybe right, with one of them laying on the floor, one looking out the window and the other one up in the back, and they had like five computer screens with the fucking cue from Ticketmaster.
Speaker 3:On the screens. That's great.
Speaker 2:It was fucking brilliant. On this day in 1987, Ian Asbury of the Cult was arrested after a show in Vancouver ended in a riot. Staff at the concert claimed that they were assaulted by Asbury, who spent the night in local jail cells. On this day in 1981, Stevie Nicks went to number one in the US album chart with Belladonna there you go, great album On this day in 1981, soft Cell were number one in the UK single with Tainted Love.
Speaker 2:The song was first recorded by Gloria Jones in 1964. Well, gloria Jones, her little claim to fame is she became Mark Boland's girlfriend and was the driver of the car that crashed and killed him. Oh boy, right, yep, ah, doo-doo-doo-doo. On this day in 1976, lynyrd Skynyrd guitarist Gary Rosington was seriously injured in a car crash in Florida. He had a Ford Torino and hit an oak tree. Oak tree, you're in my way yeah, and he was drunk and too much coke.
Speaker 2:What's going on around you? And it says while under the influence of alcohol and other drugs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, can I briefly go back? I'm a slow finger. Yeah, it just. It just sunk into my mind all of aerosmith that we grew up with, that we loved. They wrote their own songs. Right, they didn't get their first number one until that fucking. Somebody else wrote a song but the real are all right.
Speaker 2:I'm not you know how many how many number ones did the rolling stones actually have? If you think about the giant catalog of music, they didn't have a lot of number ones either led zeppelin didn't have a lot of number ones that Led Zeppelin didn't have a lot of number ones, it's a different chart Led Zeppelin never had the number one. No, not in the US, but when you're a classic rock fan.
Speaker 1:That's your world. You think it's all number one. And then when you look at the pop charts you realize no, it was always kind of an outlier.
Speaker 2:On this day in 1970, Janis Joplin started his recording sessions recording a version of chris krasoff's and fred foster song. Me and bobby mcgee leave her. Joplin, who was a lover and friend of christopherson's from the beginning of his career to his death, topped the us singles charts with the number one song after his death, making the song the second posthumous number one single in us history. Uh, after sitting on the dog of the bay.
Speaker 1:In honor of Dennis, I'm going to make a ponytail.
Speaker 2:The dude was overrated, if you ask me, jesus, it was Ozzy Osbourne.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you.
Speaker 2:I've been using that same joke for like three years now and it still works. It still works. That's a good joke. On this day in 1968, on their first ever visit to the uk the doors appeared on top of the pops performing. What year was this? What year was it? Uh, 68 touch me.
Speaker 4:I thought touch me, but it was 69 um 68 waiting for the sun no, hello, I love you.
Speaker 2:Won't you tell me your name? Waiting for the Sun was 70, I think this day in 1967 working at Abbey Road Studios, the Beatles began recording John Lennon's new song. I Am the Walrus, recording 16 takes of the basic backing track. I love.
Speaker 4:Oasis, that's not bad, that's pretty good yeah.
Speaker 1:I love the Oasis version of that song. It's fucking fabulous.
Speaker 2:It's great On this day in 1966, john Lennon started work on his role as Private Gripweed in the film how I Won the War. On this day in 65, the Rolling Stones recorded their eighth single, get Off of my Cloud, at RCA Studios in Hollywood. Ah, the song peaked at number one on the US and UK charts. So there you go, they did have a number one.
Speaker 1:Stones did they?
Speaker 2:Yeah, On this day in 65, Sonny and Cher made their first live UK appearance. On this day in 64, the Animals started a three week run at number one with one of the greatest songs ever House of the Rising Sun. Someone's microphone just got unplugged.
Speaker 1:No, no, no Okay.
Speaker 2:Sorry, let's see All right Birthdays today. Brad Wilk, for the drummer from Rage Against the Machine, born in 68.
Speaker 1:Let's see, that was Will Ferrell. No, no, no, no, that's the dude from the Red Hot Chili Peppers not Brad Hill let me see okay.
Speaker 2:Born on this Day in 1951, jamie Oldacre. Oldacre played on Eric Clapton's 461 Boulevard. Yep, he also played with Leon Russell, bob Seger, ace Frehley, peter Frampton. Recorded with artists like the BG, steven Stills, the Bellamy Brothers. He died in 2020 at 68. Born on this day in 49, dave Clebson, the guitarist for Humble Pie. Let's see Mel Collins. You know who Mel Collins is.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Born on this day in 47. British saxophonist and flutist Session. Musician Played sax solo with the Rolling Stones, miss you. Also worked with King Krinsman Campbell, alan Parsons, project 10cc Clenard. Eric Clapton, bad Company Dire Straits. Roger Waters, jerry Rafferty. Tears for Fears and others. See, that's a studio position right there. Born in this day in 1946, buddy Miles, buddy Miles. Born in this day in 1946, freddie Mercury. Oh, born this day in 45, the year of the cash time passages.
Speaker 2:Buy me a ticket on the last train home tonight that motherfucker I that took me decades to figure that out that that fucking time passages is the exact same formula as year of the cat. Yeah, if you listen to them one after the other, yeah, fucking brilliant move. He disguised it perfectly, but I finally figured that out. I always said there's something about that song like what am I missing that they? It's the same fucking format as year of the the cat.
Speaker 1:So Rick Emmett from triumph said when you copy someone else, it's called plagiarism, when you copy yourself, it's called style.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh, let's see. Uh, john Stewart, born on this day in 1939. He wrote the monkey said daydream, daydream, believer, and when the lights go down in the California town, people are in for the evening. Jump into my car and I'm going to go far.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, he jumps into his car, then he throws in his guitar.
Speaker 1:After he jumps in the car.
Speaker 4:So he leans out, it's like a convertible. He leans over the window, and just's like a convertible.
Speaker 2:He leans over the window and just evidently he had a weird fucking history like his, if you look at. He was in the kingston trio, yeah, but there's something about his his life.
Speaker 2:Like it's really fucking like he was this really strange character like I remember reading something on and going this dude's an interesting cat, like he was known like in the industry maybe not to listeners, but he was known to to like inside the industry yeah, kind of. I I'm gonna look him up again, but from what I remember he was kind of a strange dude. Uh, and let me see, finally, born in the state in 1934, american singer-songwriter Beverly Ross. She wrote Lollipop, lollipop.
Speaker 1:Oh, great song.
Speaker 2:Or the Girl of my Best Friend Do you know, what Judy's Turned to.
Speaker 4:Cry.
Speaker 1:Lollipop.
Speaker 4:Judy's Turned to Cry.
Speaker 1:Lollipop will always bring me back to Stand by Me.
Speaker 2:Everybody knows it from that, our whole generation knows it from that. We've heard it in other things, but yeah, that's one of those songs that sticks to that scene.
Speaker 1:You want to see a dead body.
Speaker 2:Sticks to that scene.
Speaker 1:Looney, looney la chance.
Speaker 2:Well, gentlemen, that's it, we're done. Great show Went by fast. It was great to have Anthony on, definitely added a little flavor to the show. I'm glad we could catch you off guard, Lou See. I'm not the only one that could pull this shit off. It's been happening a lot.
Speaker 1:Lou, you were magically subdued tonight when Anthony came on. I remarked on that. He was like you're very magically subdued.
Speaker 4:I wasn't expecting it, but when he first came on it was dark, it was a silhouette. So I'm like wait a minute. I'm like no, no, no, no, that's my brother. But at first you weren't sure what it was. Yeah, it was because you got to get the small iPhone frame. Yeah, he was in silhouette. All said great, patty, ozzy said great, show guys thanks for all the info.
Speaker 2:Nice meeting your brother, lou have a nice rest of your week, scott, lou and mark.
Speaker 4:Yes, yes, you guys know that the rolling stones had eight, number ones, eight. What was their last one? Um, miss you. Well, let's see, because it's got. Uh, let's see.
Speaker 2:No, a hockey talk woman 69 wow, that was an abrupt ending right there they peaked early.
Speaker 4:They peaked early because all their great shit came after that.
Speaker 2:Some of their great shit came after that.
Speaker 4:It's all over now, little Red Rooster. That's interesting. The Last Time Satisfaction. Get Off my Cloud, paint it Black, jumpin' Jack Flash.
Speaker 2:And just think of all the great shit that came after and it wasn't. That just shows you how the industry fucking warps.
Speaker 1:Sticky fingers came after.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so did Some Girls and Tattoo.
Speaker 4:You how great the album music was, though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, those are those albums. You could listen to the whole fucking thing.
Speaker 4:No, they weren't predicated on singles.
Speaker 2:Yeah. If the singles came out of there. Yeah, beautiful Some Girls is one of those.
Speaker 4:beginning to end is one of those beginning to end. Yeah, you know that's the last great Stone's record.
Speaker 2:I would say Voodoo Lounge.
Speaker 1:Voodoo Lounge is a very good album.
Speaker 2:It's a great album and then after that there was a couple of good ones, but I thought that was a great album. Voodoo Lounge, that was yeah.
Speaker 1:I saw them at the Rose.
Speaker 2:Bowl do that, and they actually played Symphony for the Devil, so I got to see that it's pretty crazy. Yeah, anyways, gentlemen, like I always say, thank you for your time, thank you for your knowledge, thank you for making this show better, but most of all, I always say thank you for your friendship. I truly, truly appreciate it. It is funny that I'm going to meet Anthony before I meet Lou. That's it Not much Me and Anthony become best buddies. Anthony's sitting in the top left corner.
Speaker 3:Yeah right.
Speaker 2:That'll never happen, Lou. Don't you worry, buddy.
Speaker 1:You guys are safe. If me or Lou need to take a day off, maybe he could be the fill-in he could sub.
Speaker 2:That would be interesting.
Speaker 1:But you've got to get him a microphone. He's a little more raw than.
Speaker 2:Lewis. He's a little more raw. Lewis is more reserved and well-thought. Anthony's reactional, he's very reactional. You ask him a question and he makes the face Doesn't even think about it, Like what the fuck? Just?
Speaker 4:asking a fuck. So I I just asking a question.
Speaker 4:Anthony, just asking a question I told you how he pranked me, didn't I? You did, yeah, yeah, you never repeat it. We just, we years ago, we created these cartoon superhero characters for us and, uh, it was garbage man and nestor. Although garbage man had been done, I didn't know it was, you know. Anyway, it's just the thing. We went on and on and on. We just created stuff in our minds and there's backstories to all the characters. Anyway, it's an in-joke with him and I. So one day I'm walking into work, some woman comes out. She goes excuse me, do you have a brother named Nestor?
Speaker 4:I'm like well, no, oh my gosh. I said who told? I said who are you talking to? And then she got. She got weird. I said I met your brother in Florida.
Speaker 1:I'm like oh my God, excellent, excellent, well, and he went to my elementary school. That's there you go.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he had Mr Limer. He had Mr Limer as a teacher.
Speaker 2:I got to say guys, if I was ever to edit this show, that whole section would have been cut out. Scott, scott.
Speaker 1:No, I'm not getting into your fucking school days again this is not a fucking Steely Dan song. This is not my old school days. Let me just tell you one thing you saw Sleepers, right, you saw Sleepers, yes.
Speaker 4:Kevin Bacon.
Speaker 1:Yes, mr Limer was Kevin Bacon. That's all I got to say Can I move on? I listened to you and Jack talk about Boston and I loved it. Come on.
Speaker 2:You're talking about German teachers in a fucking Lutheran school. What the fuck? Booned, that's what it was. That's what it was. That's what that was man, I'm telling you I didn't like it, all right.
Speaker 1:All right, I'm saying that as a beta male.
Speaker 2:Here we go again. Well, everybody thanks for watching.
Speaker 4:Thanks for listening.
Speaker 2:If you liked it. Share it If you didn't. Thanks for listening for two hours and 18 minutes and watching in Patty's case and you know what I swear?
Speaker 1:we are the best entertainment for her.
Speaker 2:The whole week. I love it. I do believe because people that watch this the whole they say it's very entertaining. Well, that's right you know, and it's funny and it is better than what's on fucking network tv. I'll tell you, that's for sure. It certainly is, that's for sure this is better.
Speaker 2:This is better than the fucking, than than the, the what's it called? Uh, the, the queen latifah stole the whole show. Uh, the, uh, the? What was the name of the show that she stole? That they redid it and put her in the spot the equalizer, the equalizer, yeah, yeah, even after the movies.
Speaker 4:Yeah, then they put her on this network tv.
Speaker 2:She's the equalizer, like yeah, okay, it's all right, I'm done with this.
Speaker 1:It's corny, not that I ever watched it.
Speaker 2:But uh, the best equalizer was the original one. The british dude in the edward woodward.
Speaker 4:Yes, that was. I liked denzel that was. That was a great show watch that religiously
Speaker 2:the movies are good.
Speaker 1:Denzel's good in the movie no I never saw that one from the 80s, the tv show for his time was fucking great.
Speaker 4:It was done really good. He looked like my dad, I told you he looked like my father.
Speaker 2:Okay, in.
Speaker 4:English accent.
Speaker 2:Every time I see him. Now I'm going to think of porno theaters, ah see.
Speaker 4:There you go All right, everybody.
Speaker 2:Well, we'll be back next week. I don't know what we're going to be talking about. We decide the day of the show, like we always do. Now look at what we acquitted ourselves. But mark didn't get to. Let's you know what.
Speaker 1:Bring some articles bring a couple of uh of oh music, really quick, really quick. Brian brian may from queen had a stroke oh yeah, but he's okay, but that was what I was gonna bring. There's a couple others.
Speaker 2:I'll bring him next week thanks for bringing the fucking show, thanks for fucking shitting on the show right at the very end bring down bummer man, what the? Fuck mark, we were out. We were just about to end on a high note I am alan rickman for a reason you've. I mean, you just fucking I call my own vibe dude you killed the button. Now I gotta blow my candle up.
Speaker 4:I was gonna stay up. I'm just gonna go to bed now fuck that like what the fuck I'm just gonna dry everybody?
Speaker 1:oh wait, I already.
Speaker 2:I don't know if we'll be back next week. Well, we gotta wow goodbye yeah, look, I can't even fucking get off the screen because you got me all rattled.