Milk Crates and Turntables. A Music Discussion Podcast
Milk Crates and Turntables is a Music Discussion Podcast. Each week Scott chooses a different music topic and discuss and debate the good, the bad and the ugly side of that particular topic. Maybe you'll agree or maybe you'll disagree. Listen in and find out.
Milk Crates and Turntables. A Music Discussion Podcast
Ep. 167 - Jack's Back! Talking About Lost Hits And Music Memories
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Scott McLeanwell , here we are , episode 166 . Yeah , baby , welcome to 2025 . And on this episode is back , starting the year off . Right , jack , my boy , jack Calabrese , the man the mouth , the not a legend , my brother in microphones . Yeah , we're going to be talking about lost hits , songs that provoke memories , all sorts of good stuff , and I'm sure Jack's going to wax poetic about something at one point in time or another . It's inevitable . So sit back , relax and enjoy , jack and me , of course , because , well , it's all about me .
Jack CalabreseFive , four , three , two , one , zero . All engines running , Lift off . We have a lookout . The KOFB studio presents Milk Creeps and Turn Pables , a music discussion podcast hosted by Scott McClain . Now let's talk music . Enjoy the show .
Scott McLeanNow I want to know what's going on here . Hold on , I want to know what's going on , scott . What are you saying ? Does my volume sound bad or not ? What ? What's going on here ?
Jack Calabreseso your volume is better , but it's still gotta um . It's still not as loud as it normally is , and when I say better but annoying , it's just because listening to your voice is annoying you know , you know it's , but it is better . At the beginning there was no volume , then it was a little bit .
Scott McLeanNow I just turn my speakers up to 100 , and I can hear you guys fine .
Jack CalabreseNo , it's not supposed to be that way , Scott . I kid you not . My volume is at 92% .
Scott McLeanAnd it doesn't sound that good . Hey , todd , so happy , happy . I just hung up on him . So you know what I'm going to do Fuck this , because this will bother me . This will bother me . I'm fucking doing it . I'm switching out microphones . I'm switching out microphones . This is not acceptable . Jack deserves better than this . So , right at the beginning of the show , I'm fucking changing out microphones because I can and I'm going to .
Jack CalabreseJust why are you doing that , hi , patricia ?
Scott McLeanTodd , how's it going ?
Jack CalabreseAllison , happy new year . Lots to talk about , A lot going on . It's been a long time . I can't even remember the last time I was on it's been a while . I know that if you have me on man , you are scraping the bottom of the .
Scott McLeanI'm going to go blank for a minute . Hold on , I'm going to go go silent hello , I'm going to go silent , hello , hello .
Jack CalabreseAll he does , this is all he does . He's retired . It's all he does . And look at him . I'm a professional . All right , I've got .
Scott McLeanTodd , you're absolutely right . How does ?
Jack Calabreseit sound now , it sounds the same , sounds the same , sounds the same .
Scott McLeanWhat the fuck ? I don't like this . I don't like this at all I .
Jack CalabreseI mean , you know what , scott , I can hear you , we okay ?
Scott McLeanall right . Well , I'm gonna go with this anyways . Now that this one's in , I gotta use this one . I'm going to go with this anyways . Now that this one's in , I got to use this one . I'll use this one and I'll just we'll roll with it . I'm annoyed , but I don't know . All right , I put this back on , get this , turn that up and I'm just going to take it off . Man , how many bald guys did it take to screw in a microphone ? One , evidently one . So alright , jack , fill us in on . Alright , let's go with concerts . Just give us a quick run down on concerts you've been to in 2024 oh my god , we , we went nuts in 2024 .
Scott McLeanWell , that was great thanks for that lineup . That was fantastic . I'm for that lineup . That was fantastic . I'm glad you . That must have been a great time .
Jack CalabreseSo we started out with Dylan LeBlanc in Connecticut , u2 at the Sphere , dave Matthews Band in Guilford for not one but two nights . Band at uh in guilford uh , for not one , but two nights . Uh , two nights of pearl jam at fenway , which you know talk about impressive and we've we've talked about this before uh , but you know pearl jam playing two nights . You know , first off , most people like pearl jam . They're still around , they're still making music . Yes , they are . Uh , the sold out two shows at Fenway . Went to both shows and people were like , why do you go to both shows ? But they played , I think collectively , somewhere in the neighborhood of like 57 songs between the two nights and repeated two . Wow , that's pretty fucking impressive .
Scott McLeanWhat were the two ? They repeated ?
Jack Calabresepretty fucking impressive . What were the two ? They repeated , uh , they always play alive . And they played , uh , the wreckage off of the , the new record , which , by the way , if you guys have not heard , the new pearl jam , uh , that came out in 2024 . It is by far , at least , my favorite album that came out in 2024 .
Jack CalabreseSpeaking of which , I thought it would be interesting to talk about the top albums of 2024 . You know , like rock albums , I have to tell you , scott , I had a difficult time putting together a list of 10 records that I liked in 2024 . Definitely listened to a lot of older stuff , listening to a lot of jazz , listening to a lot of jazz , but , as stated , pearl Jam , dark Matter Was my number one record of 2024 . If you're even a passive fan of rock music , you should listen to this record . It's very , very good , very accessible . It's probably the poppiest record that they've ever made , but it's pretty damn good . Okay , I can tell that you're just awestruck . It's probably the poppiest record that they've ever made , but it's pretty damn good , okay I can tell that you're just awestruck .
Jack CalabreseNo , no , no , I just got .
Scott McLeanNo , it's funny you said this because I did a new year's eve show and it's funny that you're saying this because I was . I forget what the topic was , uh , but I was , oh , oh , you know what it was . I was going through the year , the year of music , and you know , you see , these groups like Deep Purple released an album this year , right ? So I was kind of cracking on these bands that you know , after their fifth album . Now , let me get your take on this , and mine was after a band's .
Decades of Music and Memories
Scott McLeanNow , considering how much music is out there and how many bands there are , you got to really look at it . How many bands really have anything worth its salt after the fifth album , after the fifth album ? Now you get the specific . You get the led zeppelins and you get the , the , the . You know the , like you too . I used all you can take and how to dismantle , right ?
Scott McLeanThose two back-to-back albums are fucking phenomenal . They should have been the same album , right ? Um , uh-oh , oh , tal , bro , is that fucking jack ? Yes , it is , yes , it is uh . So , like , really , how many bands like deep purple ? You go , you're back at these bands . How many of those bands have good albums after ? And who's buying that , that stuff ? You know what I mean ? Mark flynn . Mark flynn , he doesn't buy anything . He's too cheap to buy a cup of coffee um .
Jack CalabreseSo to to your point , you are right that most bands um have a creative arc and they exhaust themselves . Part of it is , you know , the , the , the touring , and you know they get exhausted and they , you lose their kind of creative spark . Deep purple , probably a bigger band , you know in the 70s , has not aged well , or let's put it this way , history has not , uh , treated them well , um , and their and their albums were hit or miss , you know , for a little while , but they did put out perfect strangers in the 80s , all right , that was a big big comeback , big , big comeback record for them .
Jack CalabreseBut what happened ? But remember , remember , you know , deep purple not the greatest example , because Richie Blackmore moved away from Deep Purple and went and formed Rainbow , which was comprised by a lot of guys from Deep Purple .
Scott McLeanSo look at it though . That's the 80s and they were a 70s band , primarily a 70s band , so they still had a little bit of gas in the tank in the 80s . And so there was a bunch of bands that had these little uh , these little resurgence uh in the eighties that was seventies bands . They changed it up and they , they changed it up just enough to make it in the eighties and that whole new sound . Whereas you had uh people like I don't know it was Alice Cooper or somebody trying to do uh back in the nineties or even the eighties . They were trying to do that kind of hair metal sound and they were trying to mimic whatever the popular sound was at the time , and that shit never turns out good . But you get those bands like Deep Purple who stayed in their lane and put out a good album .
Jack CalabreseBut I think your point is is well taken is that you know you have a band that comes on or an artist that comes on . You know they have their debut . Some people they hit it out of the park with their debut record because they've been playing that music for a decade . You know like people look at the first cars album and like there's not a bad song on that album . No , well , that's because those guys have been playing and writing those songs for Time out .
Scott McLeanMark Flynn just retorted . Hey Jack , I got something deep purple for you .
Jack CalabreseSee , I told you he was a fan .
Scott McLeanOh , perfect timing . What are you ?
Jack Calabresedrinking . What are you drinking there ? What are ?
Scott McLeanyou drinking ? What are you drinking ? Tea , as usual , okay , just a little tea . There was a time when this show drove you to drink and it wasn't tea Once or twice .
Jack CalabreseI realized pretty early on drinking and podcasting . Oh , by the way , drinking and painting it does not work .
Scott McLeanIt doesn't enhance your creative mind .
Jack CalabreseIt does not . Well , you think it does . You think it does . Like at the moment you come back from dinner , you know , maybe you had some wine , you had a martini or whatnot , and I was like , ah , you know , I got to go and clean up my paints a little bit and I'll take a couple of swipes at it . Oh , I'm kicking ass . And the next morning I wake up like what the fuck ?
Scott McLeanYeah , it's the same thing with driving . Apply that to driving too .
Jack CalabresePainting's a little less dangerous .
Scott McLeanHow many idiots in our lifetime said I'm a fucking better driver drunk than I am straight ? Yeah , I'm being responsible .
Jack CalabreseI got to get my car home .
Scott McLeanUnfortunately one or two didn't make it through that thing , but that's another story for another time , Don't drink and drive out there kids , no , no , no , it's not worth it . But back then I mean , we got away with it for the most part . Today , these kids , they got it roughly away .
Jack CalabreseYou're off topic a little bit , but a little bit again to your point when , when was ? When was the last great elton john record ? When was the last ? You know I mean even um , you know van halen , you know you got into , like you know , diver down where they were struggling . You know most that album . I think the album clocks in at like 31 minutes . There's five covers on it Exactly .
Scott McLeanYeah , they bounced back in 1984 . And you can't even count Aerosmith's 80s comeback , because they didn't write those songs .
Jack CalabreseNo .
Scott McLeanThey didn't write them . So I think that their resurgence was great . It was good music for the time . I don't know . I think that their resurgence was great . It was . It was good music for the time . I don't know how much some of those songs aged . I don't know if they aged well , like loving an elevator , I'm like ah , fucking that's if that's not an 80s , fucking arrowsmith song . You know what I mean no , you know what that ?
Jack Calabreseyou know what the worst 80s arrowsmith song was ? Oh , what ragdoll , oh I don't know .
Scott McLeanI think loving the elevator gives it a run for its money but I will not argue with you .
Jack CalabreseRagdoll , going to the movies . Ragdoll , this fucking song is goofy . I agree . You know what ? I'll tell you Some of those 80s Aerosmith records the best songs are the songs that weren't hits .
Scott McLeanLike .
Jack CalabreseEat the Rich or Monkey on my Back , you know , some of that stuff Was really really good .
Scott McLeanPerry Denevich , the AI . He's back there , he is . He says oh yeah , I dig this dupe just like recording with a buzz . Uh , sounds good now , but tomorrow not so good oh man in the ai . I know that there's probably .
Jack CalabreseThere's probably some people that can do it . I I can't podcast or paint yeah , I don't think podcasting the .
Scott McLeanthe thing about podcasting when you're drunk is you really can say anything you want , like there's , no , you're not going to get filtered right , it's the Wild West . How it's going to go over with the audience is a whole other thing .
Jack CalabreseRemember when we first came of age and we were able to get into places , we'd go and drink in the afternoon and play pool , oh yeah .
Scott McLeanThe Charlie West I was doing that of places we'd go and drink in the afternoon and play pool . Oh yeah , the child . It was when I wasn't of age there was .
Jack CalabreseThere was like a five to seven minute period where you just had enough alcohol , where on the table you were hitting everything , oh , yeah , yeah . But then one sip more and it was gone you know what I ?
Scott McLeanI love doing that , but I hated that that time , that gap between like five in the afternoon and seven at night , because everything when we were growing up started at seven . Right , we're going to meet somewhere , because we're going to town , because the bar's closed at one , right . So if we were going in town , like you get in there early so you can prime up , right , but if you were drinking all day , that dead zone between 5 and 7 , I hated that . It's just enough to maybe you're going to start to fucking hit the wall , you know , but then it's a struggle to get back up again . But they were great times . Those were good times , crazy times . So what I want to do with Jack is we're going to talk about some lost hits . It could be from the 70s and the 80s . Oh , perry Denevich , the AI , says I dig this duo , meaning Scott and Jack . Well , you know we are the originators , the OGs of MC&T . Mark Flynn commented in my house painter Jorge drinks and paints A case of Miller Lite . He does my whole basement , my painter Jorge , okay .
Jack CalabreseIn my neighborhood . You know , this was years ago , back when nobody in the neighborhood had any money Our friends , tim and Mark and their wives . They were in a duplex down the street and they asked everybody to help them paint their house . And you know , tim and Mark were like we're going to get a keg . And I said , listen , it's none of my business , guys , but do yourselves a favor , don't tap the keg until we're done . Yeah , and they made the mistake . Like you know , people were getting on them hey , where's the beer ? Where's the beer ? Where's the beer ? And once they tapped that keg , it was all fucking over . Yeah , it was done . Yeah , it was done . All of a sudden , people were sitting in the grass and they were playing with the brushes and people were rolling each other .
Scott McLeanIt was a mess , like the Three Stooges painting the car . I fucking painted my car , dude . Fucking rolling works great . Yeah , hey , you changed your angle , your room . I see you got your old podcast light hanging up on a . What is that ? An old , a different light . It's a different light . Oh , okay , it's hanging up on a . You got the Louvre doors behind you .
Jack CalabreseThere's one behind me there .
Scott McLeanYeah .
Jack CalabreseThere's one there . Uh-huh , okay , it's the latest painting I'm working on right there , ah , okay . Which , by the way , that's the house that we painted .
Scott McLeanThat's it . There you go , see , see how that works , see how that works . Alright , so we were going into me and Jack talked about it . He wanted to do something intelligent , because he asked me , actually , so what are we going to be doing ? And I sent him a text we're going to be talking about Wait , wait , wait , wait , wait a second .
Jack Calabresecan you do my voice again ? What did I say ?
Scott McLeanyou said yeah , what are we gonna be doing ? That's exactly how you said it and through the text , that's how I read it through the text . And I said we're gonna be doing bands and songs that have food in the name . And and he said can we do something intelligent ?
Jack CalabreseYo like this .
Scott McLeanYou don't like that topic
Band and Song Food Name Challenge
Scott McLean. Jack , is that below you ? So how many ? What was it ? I don't know . I was joking . I said bands and songs with food in the name and I was like I waited for your reply .
Jack CalabreseWait , but how many can you name ? Can you name any ?
Scott McLeanStrawberry Alarm Clock . Vanilla Ice , Let me see Salt and Pepper .
Jack CalabreseSee people . This is proof he wanted to do this . No .
Scott McLeanI'm just smarter than you when it comes to this . I'm quicker than you . I know these things . You know some things I know , these things you know some things , I know other things , you know shit you know stuff , I know stupid fucking facts . So vanilla fudge cream , yeah , yeah humble pie humble pie . Is that humble pie ? Yeah , it's a little bit of a stretch . Yeah , it's pie . It's pie , though it's pie . Someone could call something a humble pie . How about ? Uh , uh , what is it ?
Scott McLeanum something chocolate meatloaf meatloaf right , yeah , yeah , uh . Hot chocolate right . Isn't that a band hot ?
Jack Calabresewild , wild cherry wild cherry .
Scott McLeanYeah , yeah , let me see uh the oj's that's a stretch . That's a stretch , come that's a stretch Come on Vitamin C yeah , what else Yesterday ? Yesterday I wasn't feeling good . Tangerine dream yeah , yesterday I wasn't feeling good .
Jack CalabreseI was getting a little stuffy , so I wanted some vitamin C . I had a couple of OJs .
Scott McLeanThere you go , smashing pumpkins . Big head , todd the Wits , brocket , smashing pumpkins . That's Two more . Give me two more , let's come up with two more . Let's see Orange Juice Jones , I saw you Walking in the rain . That's a great song , by the way . Eminem's , eminem's . There you go . Alright , we did it . We did a show . Alright . Goodbye everybody . Good night everybody . M&m's , m&m's . There you go . All right , we did it . We did it .
Jack CalabreseWe did a show . We did a show . All right , goodbye everybody , thank you .
Scott McLeanGood night everybody .
Jack CalabreseGood night , Good night everybody .
Scott McLeanAll right , so 10 lost hits , I have 10 . Jack has 10 . And I'll start off . So this group , the song came out in 84 and the group you never hear . You very rarely hear this song , but it peaked at number 43 on the Hot 100 . And again , you don't really hear it on the radio .
Jack CalabreseThis hit is what's the song Was that that's not Guns N' Ropes is it . Nope , frankie Goes to Hollywood .
Scott McLeanThere you go . What's the song ? Is that Two Tribes , two Tribes . I'll give you . It's not that it's Two Tribes .
Jack CalabreseThat's what I just said .
Scott McLeanYou said the Two Tribes . It's Two Tribes . I'm just doing what you would do to me .
Jack CalabreseI didn't say that's two tribes , it's two tribes .
Scott McLeanNo , no , we'll go back in the replay . I can bring it up on the phone right now . Good to see , jack . No , it's not . It's not Cranberries , red hot chili peppers , blue Easter cult pulled from a Flynn . He pulled a Mark Flynn and Googled it . Big head Todd to Ed Sprock . There you go . At least he's honest .
Jack CalabreseYeah , that people hey how about Seal ?
Scott McLeanThere you go , if you're an Eskimo .
Jack CalabreseYou ever hear that comedy bit that you know the Make-A-Wish Foundation . Yeah , they have a dilemma . They find some kid who's really sick and they grant him his wish . You can do . You know , make a wish foundation . You can meet michael jackson , you can go to disneyland . His final wish he wanted to kill a baby seal .
Scott McLeanYeah , so two tribes . You always hear relax . They play relax on the radio all the time um , but you never , very rarely , do you hear two tribes being played . And it was pretty much . It peaked at 43 . So it wasn't a top 40 hit , but it was in the hot 100 . So that was from 84 .
Jack CalabreseWhat do you got jack uh , so I , I I was a little bit different in the way that I was thinking about this and these are , I think , along the same lines , right Songs that I love or really liked a lot that you never hear on the radio , and I was pulling some deep cuts . So the first one that I pulled is a song called Dreams I'll Never See by by Molly Hatchet . Wow , do you know that ?
Scott McLeanLet's see , here we go . Oh yeah , I can tell just off that first . Yes , I knew it as soon as it came , just that riff .
Jack CalabreseYep , can you play a little more ?
Scott McLeanOh , dude , I'm putting this in my playlist right now . Huh , I'm adding this in my playlist , right now . Huh , I'm adding it to my playlist right now . I forgot about this song . I love it . Great fucking song . I love it . I love it . Yeah , this is another YouTube video that's going to get copyrighted to death . Yeah , all right , I got to stop it because they're going to get me . They're going to get me . So this song , this song . When did that song come out ? Dreams , I'll Never See . That was what Early 80s .
Jack CalabreseYeah .
Scott McLeanYeah , right . So this song is an . I think this is and this was one of his highest charting songs , this artist who was originally in one of the big bands . I just got a text Hold on , but I'm not going to do it With that . That just fucked me up , 1978 , if I'm looking at text Hold on , but I'm not going to do it With that .
Jack CalabreseThat just fucked me up 1978 , if I'm looking at this graph 78 .
Scott McLeanI thought it was close In the early 80s . I knew it was in that time frame , yeah .
Jack CalabreseBut I mean that is a great song it is , and you never hear it on the radio .
Scott McLeanNo , you don't . And this song too , this song , and this is his , I think his highest shotting song . I think it came in at number 26 in 1986 in the Hot 100 . You'll know it , let's see , you know it .
Jack CalabreseI couldn't hear it at all .
Scott McLeanReally , I don't know what's going on with this too .
Jack CalabreseI'm all fucked up , can you hear it Is that Face to Face by Pete Townsend ? Yeah , I love that song . By the way , I got a Pete Townsend song too .
Scott McLeanOh , okay .
Jack CalabreseI got one too .
Scott McLeanIt's a long intro which probably didn't help it .
Jack CalabreseBut it was a huge hit for him .
Scott McLeanIt was . Great video too big staple on mtv . Great video , great harmonic , harmonica , solo . Right , his daughter's up on stage with him . She's the one that says watch the flex . Yeah , great song , pete thompson , face to face , from 1986 . I don't know why my shit's not coming across good over this , but I'll fix this tomorrow . It's irritating . Uh , what do you got ?
Jack Calabresehold on a second .
Scott McLeanBear with me one second yeah , yeah , yeah , give us number three hold on a second .
Jack CalabreseI'm just .
Scott McLeanI'm just trying to see if I can adjust something okay , this is an adjustment show people , but it doesn't matter . Jack's back . You missed the intro . You're gonna . I know you never listened to the podcast for the listeners . Jack's never listened to an episode of this podcast and all the episodes he's ever done , because he doesn't like the way he sounds and that's the way he said . But you have to listen to the intro here because I dogged you . All right , you ready ? I'm ready for the next pick .
Jack CalabreseI'm ready for the next pick . I'm ready . I did not particularly care for this song when it first came out . My wife reintroduced the song into our lives . It's back from 1981 . You need to look up . Saga on the loose , oh shit remember that one from 1981 ?
Scott McLeanlet me see yeah , here it is . There it is . Lost it buddy . Yeah , here it is , here it is .
Jack CalabreseLost it . Buddy , Can you get to the point where he's actually start singing this ?
Scott McLeanis a rocking tune . Yeah , wow , good one . Yeah Got the fist . Yeah , nice one , dude .
Jack CalabreseDude , that should go on your playlist too .
Scott McLeanI don't know , I don't like it that much I mean it's a good song .
Jack CalabreseIt segues in from Molly Hatchet . Look , I regard myself as a pretty astute musicologist and I just picked Molly Hatchet and Saga .
Scott McLeanLet me see my song right here . No , let me see .
Jack CalabreseWho does ?
Scott McLeanit . How come I can't Fuck . Let me see who does it . How come I can't Fuck . Let me see Song . I had this song . Now I don't know where the fuck it went , I don't know . Like on my list it was from 1987 . Let me see , I know how I'll find it . I'll find it over here . I don't know why that got it's by what the hell Song You're really getting good at this podcast .
Scott McLeanI know , know , really I don't care , I'll skip to the next one . I'll skip to the next one . This next one came out . This came out in 1991 . This next one I had extras . I actually I kind of did this on you , I got extras , so this song came out in 1991 . What were you doing in 1991 ?
Jack CalabreseWhat was I doing in 1991 ? Yeah , I was living in Somerville with Deb , our first appointment , our first apartment I mean I was working at the New England going to shows Went to , by the way , 1991 . I'm hoping that we get to talk about this . 1991 was the year of the first Lollapalooza tour .
Scott McLeanWell , if you're around next week , if you're around next week , jack , look at , jack has the fucking coffee mug with the J on it . How old are you getting old like you're that guy now ? It was a gift , oh Jesus , you're not supposed to coffee mugs . Gifts are supposed to go for display . I never used a coffee mug that anyone's ever gotten me , except for a king of Facebook coffee mug that anyone's ever gotten me except for a King of Facebook coffee mug . Those are the greatest coffee mugs ever .
Jack CalabreseDo you still give those fucking things out ? I still have some left . You got a crate full of them . Is there like 300 of them sitting on a pallet in your garage ?
Scott McLeanThey're all back there . Yeah , they're all behind the green monster .
Jack CalabreseYou know what I want to see someday ? I want to see a King of Facebook mug on eBay .
Scott McLeanLet's see Is there , one up there Make it so number one . King of Facebook . Oh , he's looking it up . You won't find one because they're hard to get and people don't sell them . They treasure them . They're going to be worth something someday .
Jack CalabreseOh , there's like 30 of them on there 99 cents . Oh , wait a minute . I wonder who posted this one . It says only use this display .
Scott McLeanOkay , all right . This song , this lost hit , came out in 1991 . Let's see , this was one of those radio hits if this wasn't 91 , oh yeah . Did you ever hear this song on the radio ? No , 1991 . Did you ever hear this song on the radio ?
Jack CalabreseNo Trying to sound like Prince , I know this song . Who is this ? Yeah , is this Saga ? Is this Saga's ?
Scott McLeanother hit . The name of the band is Natural Selection . This peaked at number two . Dude , this song , right ? The name of the song is Do Anything . What if the land without you , we can make it . It was a big dance club hit too . That's when 91 was all dance hits . That's when all those club hits came out . What do you got ? Did he freeze ? Fuck , jack froze up . Look at that , look on his face . Unless I froze up , did I ? Oh , and he's gone . Let's get him back in Hold . On Boy , this is quite the comeback there . He is All right . He froze up .
Jack Calabresefor a minute I was here the whole time Did I freeze up .
Scott McLeanYeah , yeah , with the stupidest look on your face . You could not have froze up with a stupider look on your face . That's great .
Jack CalabreseI got them all . Baby , I got them all .
Scott McLeanDude , you're going to give me your next one .
Jack CalabreseYou're going to be very hard to beat , I'm telling you right now . So this , so this is a deep cut . It was , uh , it was a brief , minor hit in 1984 by a predominantly a songwriter , but he , he put out one or two solo albums , maybe more than that . Mark smith would would know . Uh , tony , carry a fine , fine day , ah let me pull it up .
Scott McLeanHold on , do you remember that ? Soon I will , let me see if I hear it . Let me fine fine day , fine fine day . Always love this song tony carry , here we go . Ah , yeah , one of those sad songs , very melancholy .
Jack CalabreseVery melancholy . Yes , tells a story . Yeah , it's a story , showing my sensitive side .
Scott McLeanRemember when we thought this was such a cool fucking song .
Jack CalabreseIt's a cool song . It's not really .
Scott McLeanIt's not really . It's not better than the night the lights went out in Georgia .
Jack CalabreseWell , it definitely does have that kind of 70s storytelling feel and even the sound Like the night that the lights went out in Georgia .
Scott McLeanLook at the comment . Look at the comment . There you go . No one cared at all it you go . There you go , yeah , yeah . To me , that song didn't really age that well , which is why you don't really hear it on the radio much . Right Now , you want to talk about a song that does not fucking , that did not age well ? I'm going to tell you this right now . You want to talk about a song that does not fucking , that did not age well ? I'm going to tell you this right now . And this , this song , um , actually did good on the charts did well on the charts , yeah it hit number nine in 1977 .
Scott McLeanit Wait , wait , wait . Did you just say good on the charts , it did better than good it did well , I'm telling Debra . Yeah , anyways .
Jack CalabreseAnyways , yeah , yeah , yeah .
Scott McLeanOh Jesus , todd Big Head , todd the Wetsprocket just laid out a list Material issue Valerie loves me . Valerie loves me . That song goes back to 91 with me . And Todd the Mighty Lemon Drops . Where do we go from heaven ? Peter Murphy Cuts you Up . See , peter Murphy Cuts you Up is not a lost hit . Peter Murphy's Cuts you Up gets played a lot actually .
Jack CalabreseIt gets played a lot . You know that was the number one .
Scott McLeanWhat's that . You know what , peter ?
Jack CalabreseMurphy . You know what you know . That was the number one . What's that ? You know what , Peter Murphy ? You know what Peter Murphy's song is a lost hit it's Indigo .
Scott McLeanEyes , Indigo , Indigo Eyes . Yeah , that's a lost hit , Absolutely . But Cuts you Up . Cuts you Up was the number one alternative song , I believe in 1999 . Pursuit of Happiness I'm an adult now . I turned Todd on to that . That's actually a really good album . Their debut album he has Randy Newman , Short People not a lost hit . Social Distortion Drug Train , Drug Train . Todd is a big Social Distortion fan , Big , big Social Distortion .
Jack CalabreseI like Social .
Scott McLeanD yeah , yeah , that dude was ahead of his time with the neck tats and the whole .
Jack CalabreseHe was way ahead of his time . He was awesome , come on . Bad luck , I was wrong .
Scott McLeanYeah .
Jack CalabreseThose are great , great songs .
Scott McLeanYeah , they should have been bigger than they are . They have a following , though . He made his money . They made their money . He made his money , they made their money .
Jack CalabreseThey play here at Hampton Beach Casino . They sell out every time .
Scott McLeanSo isn't that great . So let's talk about this a minute . These older bands that still tour , because evidently they still make money . Right Now they might not be playing the big venues , but evidently they make enough money to tour because touring costs money , right .
Jack CalabreseBut evidently they make enough money to tour , because touring costs money , right ? Well , I mean , how much does it cost to have Social D go out on tour ? I mean , they're not going out with this big stage show , right right , they're a working person's band , they go out , they have their equipment , but they probably don't have the big light show and the fire pots and the runways and all that stuff . And I mean , mike N ness is the principal on . Yeah , I , I would venture to guess and I don't know enough about social d to know any better , but I would imagine that he makes a lot of money , yeah , and the rest of the guys in the band probably do , okay if it's even the original , like I'm sure , it's not the original lineup bands like that don't usually keep the original lineup .
Scott McLeanThe lead singer is the one that carries it . He says Talking Heads . This must be the place that actually gets played a lot . That's my favorite Talking Heads song . I used to fucking hate that song . I used to hate that song . I was like this is garbage right . And I don't know what changed One day . It was just on and I listened to . I kind of gave it a listen . I said all right , what the fuck ? And I was like I fucking like this song love this song it's brilliant .
Scott McLeanit's fucking brilliant song . Yeah , it's a complicated song . If you're going to try to play it , there's a lot going on there .
Jack CalabreseWhat movie was this from ? It's been in a couple of movies , primarily .
Scott McLeanAh shit , been in a couple of movies primarily . Ah shit , it had a point blank . What was it ? A gross point ? Gross point blank about the hitman . Uh , what's his name ? I forget his name john cusack yeah , yeah , john cusack .
Scott McLeanYeah , he goes back to his high school reunion . He has . He has a psychiatrist that he always talks to . He's a hit man . Yeah , this is that's , that's . I don't think that's a lost hit , but he brought up this one . He brought up this one , let me . Let me play this real quick . This is pretty . This is a deep cut . Let me see , uh , hairstyles and attitudes . You don't hear anybody talking about Timbuk3 .
Jack CalabreseOh God , you didn't like him . I'm so cool , I got to wear shades .
Scott McLeanThe future's so bright . This is actually a good album . Their first album was a good album . I had the cassette , of course you did . Yeah , I don't know if that one aged too well , but let me get to this one . This song is it's pretty much . It's pretty much as cringe as it gets . You're not going to and this one peaked at number nine on the charts Anything yet .
Jack CalabreseNo .
Scott McLeanAs cringe as it gets .
Jack CalabreseIt sounds like old Elton John . Nope , I know it's not .
Scott McLeanI'm going to let it build up a little . It's such a fucking lame song . Came out in 77 , got it .
Jack CalabreseIs that Alice Cooper ? Yeah , got it Is that Alice Cooper .
Scott McLeanYeah , do you remember this song ? I do . He was trying to mimic . Only Women Bleed , right .
Jack CalabreseThis is Alice Cooper sounds like fucking David Soul .
Scott McLeanTV yeah oh , that's better the song is called you and Me . It's fucking horrible , but it was a hit . It was a hit . It reached number nine Again , I believe , because Only Women Bleed was a huge hit for him . It was , and he probably was like oh , I got to make that money . The record company's like you need to write another ballad , Alice Cooper . Like how much of a dichotomy is that ? Alice Cooper doing a fucking soft hit contemporary song . You know , you know what ?
Jack CalabreseAlice Cooper has always been a big proponent of a good song is a good song . I remember seeing a little video clip of him . He was talking to some musicians in like the late nineties or the two thousands and he was like , look , I get it , you're talented musicians , but where is the song , where's the melody ? Are you ? What is this ? The Academy awards you playing music . No , no , no .
Scott McLeanI'm sorry I'm listening to you Cause I have a rebuttal to that . I think he's just trying to cover his tracks because he put out that fucking soft shit . Alice cooper was fucking supposedly stepping on chickens on stage baby chicks and crushing them and throwing fucking dead animals into the crowd and chopping heads off and hanging himself and doing the electric chair and yeah , but then he goes and does this shit . And he could be . It's because the record company wanted him to .
Jack CalabreseHe sold out when he did that song kiss , kiss did beth . And hard luck woman .
Scott McLeanYeah , but hard luck woman was better than you and me .
Jack CalabreseYou and me is supposed to be dead I bet you , I yeah , but I bet you was it a big hit for him .
Scott McLeanso so I'll give you beth and I'll , and I'll put only women bleed next to it . Great songs on to it , great songs on their own right , great songs on their own . And Kiss sold out too , because the record company said that's your biggest hit , we want another one . And so they went out and tried to write another ballad for the record company and for them , because they wanted that money too . Who did Kiss Kiss ?
Jack Calabresedid they always won money ? What was their other ballad , Beth Okay and Hard Luck Woman right Hard Luck Woman was kind of a Hard Luck Woman was on the next record .
Scott McLeanYeah , and so they tried to . You know , just like , okay , you have Dream On right on the first album and then the next album , or two albums later , they , aerosmith , does you Hear Me Calling ? I mean you See Me Cry . They , uh , arrowsmith , does you hear me calling ? I mean , you see me crying , you see me crying , you see me crying . Right , and they try , and so , and they try to mimic that popularity it's it's pretty I don't know that they're trying to mimic popularity .
Jack CalabreseThey're trying to explore a different side of their sound it's , it's the , it's , the , it's the .
Scott McLeanUh , you wait a minute . You think al stewart syndrome . It's the al stewart syndrome . It's the Al Stewart syndrome .
Jack CalabreseYear of the Cat and Time .
Scott McLeanPassages are the same fucking song . They're the same song .
Jack CalabreseNo , they're not .
Scott McLeanThey are If you look at the breakdown of it and I say he's brilliant for doing this . Al Stewart is brilliant . His biggest hit was Year of the Cat . He didn't really have anything after that . Then he comes out with all of a sudden . Sometime later he comes out with all of a sudden , sometime later he comes out with time passages . If you listen to the songs back to back , you'll hear they have the same type of uh , the same mood that that sets it . It has the same breakdowns it has . It's written almost exactly the same . The way it's choreographed not choreographed the way it's um , structured , the way it's structured . They're the same song . It's brilliant because he had a hit with time passages . Right , he didn't have anything really after that .
Scott McLeanI don't know if I buy that . Uh , I'm go listen to it . I I know it's fact . He did it . He re-fucking designed , he redesigned , uh , a year of the cat and so , and it worked , it worked . He fucking . He's making money off both of those songs and both of them are great songs . Dream on , and you see me crying a great fucking songs . I actually , like you , seem crying better than dream on .
Jack CalabreseRight , but because ? Because dream on was , you know , more overplayed .
Scott McLeanOh , you know what ? I'm not going to argue with you there . I'm not going to say that , no , but I just think it's more . It's a bigger song . I think it's more how can I ? Dynamic . It just has a lot more going on . Dream On is kind of stripped down . It's a stripped down song and then it has the big crescendo at the end .
Jack CalabreseDream On is iconic . Iconic . I don't know how you can . No , it is , I'm not , I'm not dogging . Look everybody's , everybody's got their opinion . You know , you see me crying is .
Scott McLeanIt is a great too , but it's , it's not dream on no , I think it's a better song , but it's not dream on no , and I agree with you there no , no , it's not , you're wrong wrong .
Jack CalabreseOh , welcome back , Jack , give me another fucking song . You don't know what you're talking about . Give me another song .
Scott McLeanWe're on number six . We're on number six . Give me , give me another song .
Jack CalabreseI get a couple of them . Um , all right , here's , here's one . This one one is a little bit far out . Are you ready ? Yeah , I don't know the year . I'd say it was probably like 82 83 . Thomas dolby , one of our submarines , is missing . Oh , that's his best song I love that song .
Scott McLeancan you pull it up ? I am . I am right now , uh , no one of our yeah Great song . This is definitely a lost hit Tonight .
Jack CalabreseIt's a little bit of a theme here , right .
Scott McLeanA little melancholy , yeah , I think , because you're getting old , you lost your edge , you're losing your edge .
Jack CalabreseOh , I am , you were just playing alice cooper , ah you ain't me I love the synth .
Scott McLeanI love the synth . I love the synth . Let's bring it up to the middle . I love the synth . Let's bring it up to the middle . It's a good album cover too . Wireless is a good album cover . It's a good album . You know he has no relationship to the Dolby Because there was that rumor that he was related to the Family , the Dolby that created Dolby Sound .
Jack CalabreseHe's not related to the Dolby's . He's not related to Thomas' English muffins .
Scott McLeanOr Thomas Edison For that matter .
Jack CalabreseCome on , that was a good , that's a good song .
Scott McLeanI have not argued with any of your songs yet . They are definitely good . Come on , that was a good pick . That's a good song , good pick . I have not argued with any of your songs yet . They are definitely good songs . This one came out in 1987 . It's a foreign band , let me see , and it is definitely a lost hit . There we go , this peaked at number three .
Jack CalabreseThis one goes out to Scotty McLean .
Scott McLeanYou got it , yet Peaked at number three . Who does it ? Who does it ?
Jack CalabreseOh , I don't know , but it's .
Scott McLeanIs this ? Come on , it's a foreign band .
Jack CalabreseIs this Europe ? It's not foreigner . Is this Europe ?
Scott McLeanIs this Europe ? Yeah , good boy . The name of the song is Carrie .
Jack CalabreseSo hey , look , I got to say for the record . Two seconds ago you said that I lost my edge . Listen to the shit you're playing .
Scott McLeanLook , you're playing fucking story songs , you're playing story songs playing fucking story songs . You're playing story songs , fucking story songs . Okay , give me number seven . Give me your number six . Was that your ?
Jack Calabresenumber six . You know this is a guilty pleasure song , but one that they never play . Marshall Crenshaw , whenever You're On my Mind .
Scott McLeanAh , Marshall Crenshaw . What do you think of him ?
Jack CalabreseI like this song . He you know he was Chock full of promise . He was going to be the next big thing and he was not the next big . Thing . He wasn't no .
Scott McLeanThis is a good song .
Jack CalabreseIt's a great song .
Scott McLeanYeah , this is a good song . It's a great song . Yeah , that's a good song , yeah .
Jack CalabreseCatchy as hell .
Scott McLeanIt is . His songs are catchy , right . I love this song . Yeah , good , good song . Love it . Yeah , alright , I'm gonna pull this one out , this one . This song Came out in 95 , peaked at number 39 . Let me see , I love this song . I know Tal Mark Tal loves this song too . Came out and he was a . I'll just I'll play it and see if you know it . Who is it ?
Jack CalabreseThis is Adam Ant Wonderful .
Scott McLeanYes .
Jack CalabreseYou know , you know who loves this song .
Scott McLeanDeb .
Jack CalabreseThe beautiful Miss Debra .
Scott McLeanYou know what I love If you get closer to the fucking microphone . That hasn't changed , Fuck off .
Jack CalabreseI'm out of practice . What can I tell you ? That ?
Scott McLeanhas not changed . Prick Adam Ant Wonderful . I was working at a record store in California when this came out Good song . He just this was a little bit of a comeback , but he never really . Terry Ray says Karen Carpenter and Evan Legend , and hey , you know what Terry Ray is not . By the way , my friend Terry Ray , I love Terry Ray . We go back in customs , back to the , to the 20s , 2010s or whatever , and he's up in fucking godforsaken Buffalo , but that's his hometown , so he loves it and anyway , go Bills , I'm go Bills , I'm a Bills fan this year . But Karen Carpenter at one time was in his highly regarded one of the greatest drummers ever and she was a masterful drummer and she was talented . She is a legend . Karen Carpenter is a legend , would you say ?
Jack Calabresesay , she was a fine drummer , you know . I mean , I can show you .
Scott McLeanI can show you the list where she was considered in the top 10 best drummers I'm sure , I'm sure you know , but you're just a misogynist . You're a misogynist . Hold on just . You are all about the patriarchy . Look at look at motherfucker . Look at motherfucker . 2020 is not dead in my world , motherfucker , wow wow yeah , yeah , you're a misogynist , you're , you're , uh , you're all about the patriarchy karen carpenter is . Just because she's female , you don't like her , what ?
Jack Calabreseare you ?
Scott McLeandoing . I'm not done . I can keep going . What are you doing ? Read Say something You're supposed to argue with me .
Jack CalabreseHey , I'm just looking at my list , because I do know that you are .
Scott McLeanYou love a good drum solo , you love a good drum solo . You do love a good drum solo . I do not like a good drum solo at all . You know that actually came up on the show a number of times when Mark and Lou used to do it . No , nobody likes it .
Jack CalabreseYour hate for drum solos came up . Unless you're Neil Peart , forget the drum solos , pierret . Unless you're near pierret , neil pierret , forget the drum solos . It was what you know . One of the things that used to drive me absolutely fucking bonkers about going to see van halen was you gotta give michael anthony his little bass solo you gotta give alex his drum solo and I'm like you know how many good songs you guys could have played instead of this shit .
Jack CalabreseOh , wow , you know , michael anthony , you could . You got the bass that's shaped like a Jack Daniels bottle and you're throwing it on the stage Like you know what . Throw it on the stage and just leave it there .
Scott McLeanSo you're saying when you saw Kiss , you walked out on Gene Simmons' bass solo for God of Thunder . Oh God , that's when the whole . When I saw him at Providence Civic Center , they fly to . He flies to the top of the fucking auditorium yeah , he spits the blood out on the crowd he spits the corn syrup with the .
Jack CalabreseYeah , the red you know the red dye number two in it . Yeah , exactly see , this is what you do . You get a bunch of corn syrup and then you get those old-fashioned pistachio nuts from the 70s remember when they used to be red . You soak them in the corn syrup . You just brought that .
Scott McLeanNo shit , they're not fucking red anymore . No , remember they used to be red . You soaked them in the corn syrup . You just brought that . No shit , they're not fucking red anymore .
Jack CalabreseNo , remember , they used to stain your fingers . I forgot all about that .
Scott McLeanWhat the fuck ? How did I miss that ? Yeah , you're right , that's right . Didn't they fucking roll those in dye and then put them in a ?
Jack Calabresebag Red dye number two .
Scott McLeanTerry Ray nailed it . That is the comment of the night best drum solo hands down is animal from muppets .
Jack CalabreseSo I saw , I saw every van halen tour from from 1980 on and every time they started that drum . So , alex van halen , I was like all right time to get a beer . I'm gonna go get a beer . See you in 15 minutes . Alright , give me another song , give me another song . Who cares ?
Scott McLeanGive me another song .
Jack CalabreseOkay , I have a couple To pick from . Let's see how about . You know what ? I'm going to go kind of deep on this one the Jake and Iles Band , same album . I'll give you two cuts that you can choose from One Last Kiss or Teresa .
Scott McLeanLet's go with this one . There we go . Oh , shut the fuck up , that starts off like YMCA . I swear to God , it sounds just like YMCA . Okay .
Jack CalabreseYeah , that's nothing like YMCA . It is Not at all .
Scott McLeanJust one last kiss , right yeah , just one last Kiss , right yeah , just one last kiss , good one , the .
Jack CalabreseDome . So here's my question Is that a big hit for them , or is it just a regional thing in the Boston area , because the Jay Giles Band are around New England ?
Scott McLeanI'm going to say it was regional . I'm going to say it was regional . I'm going to say it was regional .
Jack CalabreseYeah , I don't know how big that song was in California .
Scott McLeanThis is why they're not going to get into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame . We Bostonians and especially Dave Phillips , king of the 45s , thinks that they need to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame because he grew up in the New England area . Right , so they were much bigger in New England than they were in , like you just said , california . You know , aside from a few hits , they're not really that big a deal . They're a big deal , but they're not a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame deal . Wait a minute .
Jack CalabreseAre you telling me that the Jay Giles Band doesn't belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ? But who just got in from Canada ? The Tragically Hip Name me five ?
Scott McLeanTragically Hip songs , look it . I'm not saying they belong in there . I'm not saying Cheryl Crow belongs in there . Cheryl Crow has some good songs . Cheryl Crow has had a big career If she's got in before Jay Giles Band . So I mean , come on Really , like I don't know , man , and we have this debate all the time and we're not going to change anything .
Jack CalabreseBut come on , man , you know , but I mean , I agree with you . I think that the Jay Giles band it's going to be a long time before they get in , if they get in at all .
Scott McLeanIf they get in , if they get in at all , if they get in at all , exactly , yeah , but that is a good song . That was , but that was a wbcn song . I would say , uh , all right , I'm gonna go with this one . Oh shit , this motherfucker . You're gonna remember this , but you're not gonna know who sang it . You're not gonna know . This song came out in 1987 . Okay , it peaked at number 23 , and I'll even tell you that they're from scotland . Okay , but you're not going to know who the fuck's saying this is this mary's mary's room .
Jack CalabreseMary's prayer .
Scott McLeanMary's prayer good call them did I have to make this face when I was .
Jack CalabreseSuddenly the heavens roll , suddenly the rain came down . This is a fucking terrible song .
Scott McLeanYeah , but it fucking peaked at number 23 . Danny Wilson Danny Wilson was the name of the band .
Jack CalabreseThey never did anything again . I never would have guessed that . No , never .
Scott McLeanNo , you got to be an 80s lunatic to fucking know that , to know that , unless , it was your favorite song ever . All right , give me one more . Give me one more .
Jack CalabreseLet's see . All right , so this one ? You might say , ah , this one doesn't really count , but I think that there are some artists that have a legacy and they only play certain songs and then they move on and to do other things in their initial kind of history and their early stuff gets forgotten about . One of my favorite songs that is not played on the radio very often is rod stewart . Every picture tells a story .
Scott McLeanSuch a kick-ass tune , but I'm not thinking it's a lost hit see , I knew , I knew you .
Jack CalabreseYou might question .
Scott McLeanI don't think it is because I heard it on the radio recently and my wife was like because at the end , when he's just doing , every picture tells a a story , don't it ? And finally we get in the driveway and I turn the car off and my wife says , thank God . So do you want a different one instead . Yeah , I don't think that that's a lost hit . I think it's played frequently .
Jack CalabreseHow about Space Hog in the meantime ?
Scott McLeanOoh , there you go . Now you know the lead singer . You know who he was married to . For a minute , he was married to Liv Tyler , wasn't he ? Yes , he was , yes , he was , and I love this song . I fucking love this song , actually , adding it to my playlist right now , if it's not already in there , let me see .
Jack CalabreseI feel so bad that I haven't added any of yours to my playlist .
Scott McLeanI have a finely manicured playlist of 449 songs . Now it's got a great cover . I don't know if you can see it . You can't really see it . It's a visa . That's pretty good , great song .
Scott McLeanYeah , that's definitely a lost hit , definitely a lost hit , and it hits a big crescendo at the end , which is what I like . It starts off big and it gets bigger , it goes low and then it goes high . It's a great song . All right , I'm going to come up with this . This will be my last one . Then I want to get a couple of songs I know it's getting a little late for you . I want to get a couple songs of memory songs . What's going to pull out a memory ? I'm going to name a song . You give me a song and see if there's a memory attached to it . But let me finish up the lost hits . So this group had a number of hits . They were fairly successful in the 1990s . Let me see this song peaked at number 11 in 1999 . But it wasn't their biggest song and it's not their most popular song , but it's a good song . You'll know it . Good morning .
Jack CalabreseYou know it .
Scott McLeanYeah , it's um .
Jack CalabreseYeah , it's the dude that died . What was it ? Smash Mouth ?
Scott McLeanSmash Mouth . Yep , you are the few that's out , you are the antibody , mind , soul and soul . And the song is Then the Morning Comes and the world's a state . So I've said this in the past they started off as a ska band and that album , walking on the Sun , came with that song and it came out and I bought the cd and I was all jacked . I'm like this is a great sound . I love that kind of surf type , you know , 50s type sound , you know and he is , he's singing , he , you know he had an edge , yeah exactly , and then the guitar playing , and then I listened to the fucking CD and it's all ska music , except for that song , like what the fuck .
Scott McLeanRight , like what the fuck ? And so what happened was just like no Doubt ska was never going to be popular in the United States , no matter how hard they tried , because no Doubt was a ska band also . Yeah , but no Doubt was huge . Yeah , but they weren't ska . They were huge after . I'm Just a Girl right Now . You can have a ska influence , but you can't be a straight-up ska band and make it in the United States .
Jack CalabreseNo , I mean come on , you can make the argument Mighty mighty boss tones were a . Okay , just keep cutting me off . Why am I even on this show , oh Jesus .
Scott McLeanBecause I wasn't done yet . But go ahead , go ahead . Finish .
Jack CalabreseCome on , finish the police .
Scott McLeanThey were Scar influence and I just said that . I just said Scar influence band is good , but not a straight-up Ska band Like Mighty . Mighty Boss Tones made it right . And then there's a few , there's a few .
Jack CalabreseThey're a Ska Influenced Band , but they play .
Scott McLeanSka music .
Jack CalabreseYes , they do .
Scott McLeanYeah , I mean when you get the fucking hype guy jumping around on stage , that's a Ska band . It's like the moniker of every ska band is the hype guy that does nothing .
Jack CalabreseIt's like ranking .
Scott McLeanRoger was the greatest ska guy ever .
Jack CalabreseEnglish beat right .
Scott McLeanYeah , yeah , he's the greatest ska guy ever , right , yeah ? But so they catch fire with Walking on the Sun and they're like , oh , oh , now I get it , we're going to start playing that kind of music . And they left scar in the dust , just like Google dolls left their fucking hard rock songs in the dust , you know , because this is where we make the money .
Jack CalabreseYeah , you want to . You know you want to be able to afford what you're doing . I mean , look , you know , earlier in the conversation we were talking about aris smith and their their songs in the 80s . I remember steven tyler saying you know , look , we love um , you know living on the edge and loving an elevator and all that stuff . But we recognize that that's not really our stuff . Right , it allows us to play the other stuff that we love . It sustained them , it reunited them , it reinvigorated them .
Scott McLeanIt reinvigorated their fucking bank account is what it did . It sure did . They were great .
Jack CalabreseI think at that point .
Scott McLeanThat's what they were looking for . Now they love the attention and they love the hits and they love the whole thing . But in the end , making music is about money , and that proved to be true in the 80s when bands like uh the rolling stones started to break out and sell their songs . Remember that was as taboo as it ever got in the music industry . You sold out , you sold your song to a corporate you know entity , and and then it's like now they're selling their catalogs yeah , you know the , the artists .
Jack CalabreseThey really can't win though . Right , you know , you know so . Like uh , u2 , rem , any band that has been around for a long time , oh my god , they're not as good as they used to be . They changed their sound , right . And then you pivot to , you know social D or the Ramones , and say , or even ACDC , ah , they all sound the same . You know , you just can't win .
Scott McLeanYeah , yeah , no , you can't , you can't you can't .
Jack CalabreseDid you have any more , or are we done with this part ? I think we'd be done with that part . Yeah Well , I had two more that I wanted to .
Scott McLeanOkay , yeah , yeah , I can pull them up . I have one more , then I'll do one more after you , and then you finish .
Jack CalabreseSo I told you earlier that I had Pete Townsend and I actually had two that both offer the same record .
Scott McLeanNow , if all the best cowboys have Chinese eyes , I don't think they lost hits . Slit skirts .
Jack CalabreseStardom in action . No , rough Boys is not on that record . Oh good , oh , that's right . What about stardom ?
Scott McLeanin action . Let me see it's got a little bit of a long intro so you might want to go into it a little bit , pete Sonson .
Jack CalabreseI never understood why Stardom in action , so you might want to go into it a little bit , pete sounds . I never understood why this stardom in action .
Scott McLeanI never understood why this wasn't a bigger song for him . Trying to find it here .
Jack CalabreseHow do you spell it ?
Scott McLeanStart right . Stardom , no , stardom . Som s s t a r d ? O , m , oh , stardom .
Jack CalabreseOkay , all right , that's why I was like that's not coming out . It's the boston accent stardom in action . Here we go . All right , let's play it yeah .
Scott McLeanI love this album . I bought this album I was working at Fidelity Investments . I was in the print shop and I bought this at Strawberries . I bought this album one lunchtime . I went down there and picked up All the Best Cowboys have Chinese Eyes Great album .
Jack CalabreseYou never hear this song on the radio . This is a great , great tune . I don't know why it never got its due .
Scott McLeanNo , no , can you turn it up just a little bit .
Jack CalabreseYeah , no , no , and I think you turn it up just a little bit . Yeah , great song . Yeah , bobby d . Happy new year to you too .
Scott McLeanBob D what's up , my brother ? Happy New Year . Alright , I'm gonna pull this one up . This girl , this girl had a , she had a good , she had a good run . Let me see this song came out In 2003 . And Let me see this song came out in 2003 .
Jack CalabreseAnd let me see , there we go . What is that ?
Scott McLeanT-shirt you're wearing Cuphead . It's a video game . Then they turned it into a comic , Like a cartoon on Netflix Cuphead .
Jack CalabreseThat's really nice .
Scott McLeanDon't deal with the devil , so do you walk around in public in that shirt ? I do , I do . It gets a lot of comments too , by the way .
Jack CalabreseSo wait a minute , you walk around with that shirt , yeah , in white socks , in flip-flops .
Scott McLeanIn flip-flops , yeah , yeah .
Jack CalabreseNo one fucks with me , jack . I'm sure they don't . Don't touch his ears , exactly .
Scott McLeanI walk around with earmuffs on . I should stop doing that . Okay , this song peaked at number 16 . Hi Scott , how are you ?
Jack CalabreseHow are you , here we go .
Scott McLeanNow this is 2003 . Maybe you were listening to the radio , Maybe you weren't . It's a good song actually actually no , does the song sound familiar at all ?
Jack Calabresethe , the uh voice sounds familiar to me . It sounds almost like what was the name of that band .
Scott McLeanNo Seether Seether . Yeah Right , good call . It does sound like the girl from Seether . Yeah , yeah , yeah .
Jack CalabreseCould you love me in the eyes ? Who is it ?
Scott McLeanIs it ?
Jack CalabreseTracy Ball .
Scott McLeanShe did a duet with Carlos Santana . Yeah , I think it was her Michelle Branch , Michelle Branch yeah . I always liked her . Allison Lindley said Avril Lavigne Nope Close . Did you ever see the conspiracy theory about the fake Avril Lavigne ?
Jack CalabreseNo .
Scott McLeanDude , you gotta go on youtube and go down that rabbit hole , the fake . They think avril lavigne is either the real . Avril lavigne is either dead or she quit in in . Avril lavigne was such a moneymaker that they had a body double come in and there's people that go in and break down the look like the eyes like it's .
Jack CalabreseIt's fucking crazy I'll tell you not , it's kind of related . Not not last year , it was the last year of the year before my kids went to boston calling . They probably saw 30 bands , yeah , and avril lavigne was their favorite really , and my kids are pretty astute in terms of their taste . Sure , I think they were totally surprised at her presence . Yeah , her delivery . They said she was amazing . She's a professional , for sure . All right , let me give you one more .
Scott McLeanOh , yeah , yeah yeah , OK .
Jack CalabreseBlue on Black by Kenny Wayne Shepard , here we go . This song's just got great atmosphere In a monster guitar solo , just grungy dirty . Oh yeah , yeah . Yeah , my list has kind of come full circle because this sounds like a Molly Hatchett song yeah , yeah , let me jump ahead .
Scott McLeanWhatever happened to him .
Jack CalabreseHe's still around .
Scott McLeanJust never really he .
Jack Calabresehe has his following right he's , you know , he's kind of in that , that's , you know , social d category , right , he's a working musician . He still tours probably every year , plays a bunch of blues festivals . You know , really amazing musician , but just not , you know , maybe it's because he's not playing to what the public wants here he's doing what he wants . Who knows ? Right . But I'll tell you , I'll tell you if you put that on your playlist when you're walking in your flip flops . Yeah , that guitar solo gives me chills . Okay , it's just dirty grungy .
Scott McLeanHe's no , matthew Sweet , but okay , all right . Yeah , good list , list , good list . I got a couple from you . I added them into my , uh , my place . All right , I want to get a couple memories . I'm gonna give you a song and tell me the memory that's attached to it . Okay , first one I'm gonna give you is stone temple . Pilots plush came out in 92 . What's the memory attached to that ? Now , for the listeners , we didn't go over this list ahead of ahead of time . So whatever I , I say , whatever jack says , the memory that comes with it is just right off the top of your head . Do you have anything in particular ? Like I do do this . It's kind of like you gotta , I have to know you like I know you . So I know you know these songs and I know that there's things that you must have attached to them . That's how I looked at it when I made this list .
Jack CalabreseYeah , I mean it's not really that interesting of a memory , but when Plush came out I was working in Boston , as was my future wife , but we worked on opposite ends of the Boston Comet and I actually had Core with plush on it , stone temple pilots . On my yellow cassette , walkman , see , and I would . I would put that on from my walk from Boylston street and I would meet her at this bench under the same tree every day and I would just blow the shit out of my ears playing that song there you go see , that's the memory yeah , I mean it's , it's a , it's not a very specific memory no , no , it's a good memory , though .
Scott McLeanIt's a good memory it has . Every song has it has .
Jack CalabreseI'm rubbing my eyes , I'm getting getting tired .
Scott McLeanOh my God , we're almost done . I won't do this day of music for you . Okay , let's just move on , but it's got a good . What happened when it rained or if it was wintertime ? Did you still meet that fucking bench ?
Jack CalabreseYeah , I mean , were there times where I was like you know , I'll just meet your government center , or something like that ? Yeah , I'm sure that happened as well . But you know what , back in the day , even back then , we had things that we used to call umbrellas , yeah , and winter coats , yeah .
Scott McLeanYeah , we're bostonians , we're not down in boca , and our flip-flops , well , I don't know if I ever met a girl that was . I did walk to a blizzard to get to a , to get to a girl anyways . So I , I , I can , I , I I'm with you , but what ?
Jack Calabresewhat song do you associate with that walk ?
Scott McLeanwith that walk . You know what the song is ? Um , take a look at me now , because there's just an empty face what is it with you today ?
Jack Calabreseyou're playing all these weird fucking ballads I don't know .
Scott McLeanI don't know , or maybe I'll stop the world in mouth for you , but it was the winter time , so that's not really happening , so that didn't happen . All right , give me , give me a song . Give me a song you think evokes a memory b-52s rock lobster b-52s , rock lobster .
Scott McLeanOkay , uh , went to high school 1980 , I was , uh , I think it was probably my senior year . I was , I graduated in 81 . So it was probably the beginning of my senior year . Uh , we were selling mirrors , remember , you used to have those 12 by 12 mirrors and with the high school and me and Richie DiMaria they had like John Cash and them had this like they put the Viking , our school mascot on their mirrors and you know you'd have like the , the viking , our school mascot on their mirrors and you know you'd have like the , the blue tape or whatever for the edges of the mirror and we sold them for like five bucks each or something and me and richie damaria made a bunch of , uh , b52 , rock lobster mirrors , right , and don't you wish you still had one I do , do you .
Jack CalabreseDo you still have one ?
Scott McLeanIt was . No , it was screen printed onto the mirror . You know what I mean . And uh , they were fucking cool as shit man . But nobody bought one . They all bought the winter Vikings one . So yeah , I think Jack just froze again . I don't know if he's still there . That means he's getting tired , his computer's getting tired , that's something . But see , he does live in new hampshire , so his wi-fi isn't he's probably . You know where are you , jack , let me turn him off . There he goes . Now he'll come back again . Here we go , yeah . So yeah , that was the story of the b-52 is rock lobster , and then I saw them at Hampton Beach Casino .
Jack CalabreseClub Casino in Hampton Beach . You saw them early .
Scott McLeanSaw them early Till Tuesday , backed them up . We didn't get to see till Tuesday , but I was right at the stage at the Club Casino . Yeah , I got a ticket that wasn't mine and I ended up sitting right at the fucking stage . Shocking , yeah , I know , I know , all right , at the fucking stage . Shocking that was , I know , I know . Uh , all right , I'm gonna give you a song counting crows .
Jack CalabreseMr jones and me . Oh god , by the way , it's not called mr jones and me oh , mr jones , yeah , mr jones , 1993 , 1993 , um 1993 .
Jack CalabreseI used to hear that song a lot when I was working at Blanchard's Liquor Store in Revere , massachusetts , and I liked it . I liked that song you know a lot , so it always made me happy when it came on . Well , you know , back in the day , you know . So you know , deb and I we had Vanessa and we still we had no money . We were , you know , living on a shoestring budget . So I was working as an underwriter in the insurance industry during the day and then I was working like three or four nights a week at Blanchard's hauling kegs of beer and stocking shelves and trying to stop shoplifters .
Scott McLeanBlanchard's is a big liquor store . For people that don't know it , it's a it was .
Jack CalabreseIt was . It was a weird liquor store where you know these young kids with , you know nice clothes , would come in and you had no idea where they got the money . But they would be buying bottles of like hennessy and like really expensive like cavassier , and and then you would have these older people that would come in and get the bottles of Hennessy and really expensive Cavasier . And then you would have these older people that would come in and get the cheapest booze that they had when they'd be paying with change . And I remember one time this guy came in with a stack of $2 bills from the 30s that he obviously had in his drawer his whole life but he just needed that bottle of To oh or vodka , whatever it is there sugar in a bottle .
Jack CalabreseBut that was that , that was a , it was a , it was a fun job , it did what it did . But , um , you know I had a couple of minor uh acts of violence and I was like , look , I'm making minimum wage here . I was like what am I'm making minimum wage here ? I was like what am I doing ?
Scott McLeanAnd that's what the song .
Jack CalabreseThe one thing that I remember is , you know , at the end of the night I used to have to pull down the metal grates back in the day . You know the liquor stores you know closed at at 11 . And I remember , especially if I worked on a Saturday night and this was back in the blue laws when they the liquor stores weren't open on Sundays and people would be peeling into the parking lot begging me to let them in .
Scott McLeanYeah , you know , like literally .
Jack CalabreseI'd be pulling the grate down and people would be scurrying under the old blue laws . You know , just I got to go get my case of yinglings For Sunday , so I can make it through Sunday . All right , I'm sorry . How about the devil went ?
Scott McLeandown to Georgia . Devil went down to Georgia reminds me of the summer of 82 . I think it was Uh Winthrop , they , uh Charlie Daniels band was playing at the uh concerts on the common , the Boston common , and a whole bunch of us went in Common , the Boston Common , and a whole bunch of us went in us city kids , so to speak but we all had cowboy hats on . We were down with it because Charlie Daniels back then was the shit right , he was cool to listen to . We didn't really look at him as an old country Western guy because Devil Came Down to Georgia , came out and really hit the top 40 , and we all went in there and we ended up carrying uh once again . John Cash , who gets referenced by me in two stories now uh gets carried out like a dead body as we and you were there as we held him up because he drank way too much . Jack Daniels literally couldn't walk , literally drank , and we didn't . Back then we didn't think anything of it . Let's just carry him out .
Jack CalabreseSo couldn't walk , literally drank and we didn't . Back then we didn't think anything of it , let's just carry him out . So it was like . It was like a new orleans fucking funeral . Do I ? Do I have this ?
Scott McLeanmemory right . Were there way too many people in the back of a pickup truck ? Way too many ? Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , which which fit perfect for the whole , you know , redneck thing . Yes , yes , so that's my memory of john I , I , I baited you with that one .
Jack CalabreseI knew that's what you were gonna talk . Yeah , buddy , that's that's the memory .
Scott McLeanUh , rolling stones , love is strong . From 94 voodoo lounge , which is one of their best . That's a great video , by the way it's a great video .
Jack CalabreseIt's a great song . Yeah , the thing that I remember about that in 94 , it wasn't right when it first came out , but Deb used to work at night and when I was watching the kids when they were a little bit older , so this is probably more like 95 , 96 . I used to crank that song and they used to dance around in their diapers . Yeah , you know they they love that song , especially the harmonica was just awesome .
Scott McLeanYeah , yeah , uh , give me one .
Jack CalabreseUh , how about the first time you heard ? Or when the Streets have no Name ?
Scott McLeanWhere the Streets have no Name Reminds me of Well okay , joshua Tree album Streets have no Name . I was in Winthrop Getting ready to go in the Air Force . I was getting ready to go in the Air Force so I got to see the Unforgettable Fire Tour at the Worcester Centrum . I believe Billy Idol backed them up back in . It was like I don't know , 86 ? Was it 86 , 87 ? Because I went in in May 87 and went in the Air Force Joshua Tree's 87 . 87 , okay , so it was the beginning of 87 then and I saw them and , like I said , I think Billy Idol backed them up and uh , yeah , and then that it brings me to basic training .
Scott McLeanI got in there and so I'm going to be in San Antonio for 18 weeks because of all the training . So , uh , they in the six week of basic training , six weeks , halfway through , they let you go into town , but you have to wear your uniform into town . I'm like fuck that . I'm going to be here for a bunch of more weeks . I'm going to take this time and I'm going to go to the base pool and I'm just going to go . So it's June , right , it's June or July , and so I go to the little base exchange and I buy a cassette player , a Walkman , and I buy the Unforgettable Fire and I buy a pair of shorts and I go to the pool and I listen to that fucking cassette over and over and over .
Scott McLeanNow it's time to go back to basic training , where if you bought anything downtown it goes in the closet . Okay , you have no creature comforts in basic training nothing . But I'm keeping that fucking cassette player , I'm keeping that Walkman , but I'm keeping that fucking cassette player , I'm keeping that Walkman and I'm keeping that fucking cassette . And I went and I hid it in the bathroom at the last fucking stall , all the way down right behind the toilet , and I would go in there almost every night after the TIs leave and I would listen to that fucking cassette over and over again , over and over again . And of course , where the Streets have no Name was the second biggest song on that cassette , that album right Behind With or Without you . So that's my memory to when the Streets have no Name .
Jack CalabreseI would have to say , if anybody was keeping track of all the songs that you've played in your life when the Streets have no Name is definitely in my top , maybe five I've . I've played that song literally hundreds and hundreds of times and it's still gives me a charge .
Scott McLeanYou know what ? And it's the , the on the , the , the , the movie rattle and hum . At the end you have that whole scene where the beginning of with streets have no name is played . And you see , they're in , they're in , they're in , uh , they're in , I believe , sun devil stadium . And they get the big backdrop screen is red in the , the , the Joshua trees , real trees , and you see Bono silhouette come out onto the stage . Right , he's got the cowboy out on . You know that was that was shot like fucking 10 times to get the right angle .
Jack CalabreseI'm not surprised , imagine being at that concert .
Scott McLeanYou got to see that 10 times .
Jack CalabreseCut , but you know , never mind rattle and hum . How cool was the video for when the Streets have no Name ? Yeah , on top of the liquor store , yeah .
Scott McLeanThe cops trying to shut them down . The Beatles , right yeah , they're shutting us down . They're shutting us down . They're shutting us down . Let's go , yeah , yeah , imagine it's those when you could do that back then . Bands can't do that now .
Jack CalabreseDeb tells the story . You know , deb was living in California when they did that and I think she had friends that were like let's get up there , and Deb was like we're never going to get up there in time .
Scott McLeanYeah , but people still went right . Oh yeah , All right , let me give you one more . I'll give you one more , and then you give me one more . This one . Okay , I can't wait for this one . Led Zeppelin , Black Dog what's the memory ?
Jack Calabreseto Led Zeppelin , black Dog , take your pick Greg Porter's basement , dave DeVinceman's basement , my basement , almost any basement in Winthrop , you know , listening to Led Zeppelin smoking probably the worst weed .
Scott McLeanRicky Carlingon's living room . God rest his soul . That's where . Black Dog comes back to that drinking , drinking Budweiser's during the day , when their parents are gone for work and we're at fucking . It's the summertime and we're fucking drunk by one in the afternoon you know , I still not not oh , he froze again . Come on , you froze again , jack . Yeah , I know he can see me , but let's see , go off , come back on again .
Scott McLeanMaybe this works . I don't think that works . He has to do it , come on . Come on , this is a long one . Okay , jack , if you can see me . Of course , it happened at the beginning , it's going to happen at the end . This one is an extra long one , though . Come on , buddy , whack the fucking Wi-Fi box like an old tv , just fucking hit it . Do something . Come back , jack , come back . Come on , there , we go . All right , he'll be back in a second . Oh well , nope , maybe he's . Usually he popped right in . Is that going to be his exit from the show , is he ? Oh , I was going to say that's a bad way to go out there . He is All right , all right . You were saying I regret , I regret .
Jack CalabreseSo with the black dog , I was just saying , you know , you know , back back when we were in like our early teens . I was just saying , you know , back when we were in our early teens , for whatever reason , winthrop was into the Doors and Zeppelin and Aerosmith and a lot of classic rock and all that's fine , but we weren't listening to or a lot of people in general weren't listening to the Sex Pistols or the Clash or XTC , like a lot of people missed a lot of that stuff . You and I didn't , but no , no , we didn't . But even in the early days it was like you know , for whatever reason , we held on to those bands , like everybody was like Zeppelin , zeppelin , zeppelin , but they were gone , yeah .
Scott McLeanYeah , like a good example of that is once the big Doors phenomenon that was going on in Winthrop for like the whole year of 1981 , right , like I was listening to XTC , like we're only making plans for Nigel or something like that . You know , I was always listening to some disco and I was listening to funk . And this is on the side at home . Right , because , god forbid , you put a mixtape in there that has ohio players on it . You know what I mean what the fuck . Is that what the fuck you know ?
Jack Calabresebut I was in my beanbag listening to that shit ? They would . They would question your manhood if you put anything on that wasn't . They would question your manhood if you put anything on that wasn't .
Scott McLeanOh , the shit I fucking caught for listening to fucking rap back in the early 80s . The shit that I caught .
Jack CalabreseYeah .
Scott McLeanI won't even repeat the shit that was said to me by my friends , which I was like you just don't get it . No , I don't . There's still people to this day that fucking resent that whole hip hop and rap thing . But I was listening to that shit and I'd put it on a tape , like I would come in with like grandmaster flash and the furious five on a tape and I I would just fucking hear it , I would hear it but that you know , there were a lot of people that we grew up with that ignored a lot of really kind of like cutting edge and transformational bands like yeah , well , like that .
Jack CalabreseYou know the ramones were not a winthrop band , no , they weren't at all at all .
Scott McLeanNo , no at all . That was never played at a party , never .
Jack CalabreseYeah I mean , even you know , you know some of the police records and all that stuff .
Scott McLeanTook a while for for that stuff to catch on because people were so ingrained into well , I gotta listen to skinnered well , and it broke out like again when we had parties , when you played in your basement you played the police like and they'd be . I remember one of us in there .
Jack CalabreseI wish I could remember the , the woman's name , but she was like you throw those parties , you play all that weird music . Yeah , and I was playing . I was playing the police and the clash and and the Jam and Joe Jackson , and I was playing Led Zeppelin and Aerosmith and all that other stuff as well , but they were like you play that weird , weird music .
Scott McLeanSo , while I have you here and somebody , bob Doucette , said who's the new guy ? Right , who's the new guy ? But while I have you here , right , who's the new guy ? But while I have you here , so my my memory , since we're talking about memories and I , I won't give me one more song for us before I get to this , because this is a give me one more memory song . Um , jump by van halen . Jump by van halen . Okay , the album was 1984 , correct ?
Jack CalabreseYes , wait a minute For $5, . What year did it come out ?
Scott McLeanYeah , exactly right . So I just remember that Jump being the first hit off of 1984 and the big , fucking , big run-up to that album , and I used to record the radio . Like I would hit the cassette player and I would record the radio and I had this great I forget what station it was in boston , but they did this whole big build-up and it had music to it and to the debut of 1984 and they played it and then you know that's the whole thing would jump and the video , of course . The video probably at I don't know oaky's house , one of his parties . You know , when all of a sudden we were watching MTV at parties and , although it wasn't the primary , although never in your cellar , there was no TV in your cellar . That wouldn't have lasted .
Scott McLeanBut that's my memory of 1984 , is the whole debut of the album . It was a big buildup to that album too . Oh , huge , big buildup , huge . All right , give me square footage . I have a memory of your basement and I thought about all the fucking people that used to fit in there , right ? So I just recently , really honestly , I just recently , thought about this . I'm like that was not a big fucking basement . What was the square footage of that basement ?
Jack CalabreseYou got me .
Scott McLeanI have no idea 600 square feet Maybe , which is like a fucking room , but there were . Well , my studio is bigger than that .
Jack CalabreseYou know , those early days people were packed in there . Yeah , yeah , god forbid . I mean , that was a fire trap and a half .
Scott McLeanOh , because there's really only one exit . It's really no one's going up those stairs . You know what I mean . It all bottlenecked right At that . The bulkhead door was to the if I remember , to the left , and the stairs to your house were they on the upstairs ? Were they on the right ? If you were from their DJ booth and you were looking out into the room ?
Jack CalabreseSo if you're looking , remember dark board behind was the record room .
Scott McLeanYeah .
Jack CalabreseTo the left was the bar . Yeah , beyond the bar was the laundry room and the bathroom that's right To the right was kind of like the main area and there was the stairway in the in the bathroom that's right to the right , to the right was kind of like the main area and there was the stairway up the bulkhead all right , yeah , yeah , yeah , that was crazy man .
Scott McLeanYeah , they used to be packed , packed like 50 kids stuffed in that fucking thing , especially in the winter time dude heftyy lawn bags filled with empties . Yeah , and it could be fucking 20 degrees out , but that fucking basement , just because of body heat , would be 80 degrees down there . Big Head Todd the Wet Sprocket says and then we'll finish this up . You brought them up twice , Jack , Remember the Ramones suck . He said sick , but I know he means suck .
Jack CalabreseIt's all a matter of personal preference . You can say they suck , but the reality of it is they had their legacy and they did their thing . The fact that you don't like them , you're welcome to your opinion , but that doesn't mean they suck .
Scott McLeanOkay .
Jack CalabreseYou suck .
Scott McLeanYeah , you suck being Ed Todd . That wins for us .
Jack CalabreseYou suck .
Scott McLeanJack , you got to answer the question . One of your fans puts at the top . Is Jack back ? Jack is at the top is Jack back ?
Jack CalabreseJack , Jack is back . When Jack can be back , oh well , that's not a no .
Scott McLeanOh , we need Amanda . No , I can't . Amanda's up in Florida state , so that ain't happening . That was a good Christmas show , but you know , hey , I , I love a good .
Jack CalabreseChristmas show . But you know , hey , I love doing the show . It just you know .
Scott McLeanWell , you just let me know . You let me know week by week , and see , this one went more than you thought , because we had a lot to talk about .
Jack CalabreseI had so much more to talk to you about .
Scott McLeanWell , I'm doing this for you . Buddy'm gonna cut you short and if you want to pick it up next week , as we used to do , we can pick it up next week I think I might be able to do it next week I , I , I will , I will . This was fun . I love you , buddy . I love you . I love doing the show with you . I like you a lot too . Jack is back . People I'll say Jack is back , he might be just be friends .
Jack CalabreseI just don't , I just don't think of you in that way . I appreciate it .
Scott McLeanThanks anyway always better with the original lineup . There you go . That's right , it's a reunion thank you very much , mr Kirkman .
Scott McLeanSee , jack , this is , this is they're putting pressure on you , buddy , so I'm just leaving it there . I'm just leaving it at that . Do you like him or tolerate him ? I think he's talking to you , jack Steven Romano , do you like him or tolerate him ? That can be asked of a lot of people , a lot of people that can be asked of All right , everybody . Listen , jack , of course , my friend , thank you for coming on . This is great , great way to start 2025 . Just like we started 2020 . Imagine that .
Jack CalabreseHey look Scott .
Scott McLeanVintage camera . Look at that , nice . What do you got there , yashica , yashica D ? Ah , nice , nice , buddy , it's not a Roloflex , but I'll give it to you . I'll give it to you , yashica's . A nice camera , nice camera . Jack's tapping into my nerd side , my old camera collection .
Scott McLeanSee , big head Todd with sprockets . He's glad you're back , jack . See Putting the pressure on you , buddy . So you know , we'll see , we'll see . But he said he'll be here next week and maybe he comes on earlier before the show so he gets set up again . But I won't expect anything . Thank you , I won't expect that . All right , everybody . Thank you for watching , thank you for listening , if you liked't well , thanks for watching and listening for an hour and 49 minutes . Jack is back , at least . His contract is still being negotiated . It's still being negotiated , but it was a great show Again , great way to start off the year . And , as I always say , like I said , thank you for watching , thank you for listening . You are the engine that runs this machine . Without you , it would just be me talking to Jack , and sometimes that can get very hostile . Just be me talking to Jack , and sometimes that can get very hostile , very hostile .
Jack CalabreseHe's very hostile I heard .
Scott McLeanThis persona that you see on the screen and listen to on your car speakers is really a different person . But you know he's diva . But yeah , and doing the show for you , to quote my favorite artist , morrissey , well , the pleasure , the privilege is mine and I will be back . We will be back next Thursday .
