Milk Crates and Turntables. A Music Discussion Podcast
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Milk Crates and Turntables. A Music Discussion Podcast
Ep. 171 - Band Members Who are More Popular Than The Lead Singer
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Underrated Lead Singers in Music
Speaker 1What the hell just happened there . Jesus Christ , let's try this again . What the ? F- was that . Let's see what , what , what , let's see , let's end that it won't stop , I'm going to give you the top 10 music genres .
Speaker 2No , I'm not .
Speaker 1No , I'm not why is this continuing to play ? No , that's an old intro . Stop me . That's really why you Stop . What the hell just happened ? What the hell's going on here ? What ? What's going on ? Get the hell . I mean , I'm gonna try this again . I'm gonna try if this double whammies me again . This is gonna be a long or maybe a short show . Short shit show . Let's see . Well , here we are , episode 171 , climbing to 200 . And on this episode I have two lists tonight . One is band members that are more popular than the lead singer . It's an interesting list . There's some debates in there and also underrated lead singers and a little bit of a list here . So sit back , relax . You can agree , you can disagree , I don't know , but I think it's an interesting conversation , especially the one with lead singers that are less popular than another band member . That's usually not the case , so sit back , relax , enjoy .
Speaker 2Five , four , three , two , one , zero . All engines running Liftoff . We have a liftoff . The KLSB Studio presents Milk Creeps and Turntables .
Speaker 1a music discussion podcast hosted by Scott McClain . Now let's talk music . Enjoy the show . That was more like it . What the hell happened there ? This beat's sick . What it's my shit . What the hell happened there ?
Speaker 2What , what , what . I don't know who this is . I do . She's a stalker . Yeah , baby , yeah , that's how I roll . Love synth . Give me all the synths in the world . Yeah , yeah , love the synth . Get the chat going here , patty . Good evening , good evening . Yeah , uh-huh , uh-huh . It's all a little wasted to the back room , baby , but all the people crazy in the VIPs are getting . It's all a little wasted .
Speaker 1Just be sick , just be sick . I do love me some synth , yeah yeah . In case anyone's wondering the name of that group , it's a duo . It's called Boy Deluxe and the song is called Sanctuary .
Speaker 2I love this shit .
Speaker 1I do . I just I love that shit . Yeah , what's up everybody ? Welcome to the podcast . Welcome to the show . Welcome to the podcast . Welcome to the show . Welcome to the show . Welcome to the show . Welcome back , my friends , to the show that never ends . I'm so glad you could attend . Come inside . Come inside Streaming live right now , over everything , as usual . Nothing changes . After 171 episodes , nothing changes , it's all the same . Yeah , this is sexy , isn't it ? Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1I'm always looking , always looking , always looking for new music , and I find it , I find it . It's inevitable . At least there's a lot of trash that I sift through too but , I find these diamonds in the rough .
Speaker 1Yeah , so yeah , flying solo again tonight . You know , it's just a thing . It's just a thing . I can do it . I'm not afraid of you people . I'm not afraid of you people . I can do this by myself . But it's really . It's all about the podcasters . So the live stream is a means to an end , right , but I love doing it . You know , not many podcasters start live . They usually work their way up to live . Well , I jumped right into the frying pan , into the fire , I don't know , 171 episodes ago , and I still say go back and listen to those first episodes .
Speaker 2It's fucking horrible .
Speaker 1It's horrible , but I did it . I fought through it . Yeah , so tonight , tonight , I have a couple lists . I don't know how . No , a little Dead or Alive Love my Synth . It's a big 80s song , pete Byrne .
Speaker 1Pete Byrne was the lead singer of Dead or Alive . He was that androgynous , looking you know lead singer who he was Boy George before Boy George . But Pete Byrne never really got that recognition . Boy George was more colorful and more Boy George-ish , I guess , and the record labels loved to . They just pushed him and Pete Byrne never really got the respect he deserved .
Speaker 1He had a great voice . Actually , you know what I'm going to say , that Pete Byrne will be the . I'll throw him out as the first name on my list of most underrated lead singers . Pete Byrne had a good voice . He died . But Now you might not like the song , you might not like the genre of music , but Pete Byrne had a good voice . Can't deny the voice , you know . You can deny the music , you can deny the sound , the type it is . Can't deny the voice , can't deny those voices . But I don't even know where I was . Yeah , pete Byrne , he got burned on all that . Then the poor bastard ended up going having plastic surgery that really got out of hand . He was one of those victims and never really recovered from any of that and I believe I believe I don't want to say this out of turn , but I think he I'm not going to say suicide , but let me see . Let's see .
Speaker 1Pete Burns , english singer , songwriter . October 1959 , august 5th 59 to October 23rd 2016 . Pete Burns now I'm just interested now . Career personal life death . Pete Burns died in London following a sudden cardiac arrest at the age of 57 . Wow , wow , wow , wow . So , hmm , you know , you can't deny them , you might not like them , you might not like their music , you know , but they were pop stars , he
Debating Overrated Lead Singers
Speaker 1was a pop star .
Speaker 1So , yeah , tonight I have a couple lists , I have a couple lists . Geddy Lee he might be on my list , he might not be on my list , you know . So let me go with that first , because I have another list of band members more popular than the lead singer of the band , which is an interesting list . That was very . There was some research . Freddie Lee , fetty , fetty Lee , is that his name . So I don't know if Geddy Lee is an underrated lead singer . I don't know if Geddy Lee gets his . He is the voice of Rush , so I don't know if I would say he's underrated in a sense .
Speaker 1You know I hate the way this mic is sitting right now , but it's . I gotta get this tightened up or something . I think the mic is too heavy for the end of this boom arm and it's pissing me off . Jerry George is getting mad . Yeah , again , I don't know if Geddy Lee would fall into that , but , like I said , this singer , pete Burns All right , I know what this means . Hold on everybody . Hold on this guy . He's paying for time now . He's paying for airtime now .
Speaker 2Don't sound so annoyed , Scott .
Speaker 1Well , welcome to the show . Big Head Todd the Wet Sprocket .
Speaker 2It's a great shirt . Look at you .
Speaker 1Yeah , retro House of Pain t-shirt . Yeah , buddy .
Speaker 2So you used to jump around with that , with a shirt , just like that . Uh , back in the in the 90s and uh , you try to do that .
Speaker 1Now you break a hip hey hey , instead of jump around , jump around , it's break a hip break , a hip break , break everybody , break break . So funny , yeah . So , uh , I know you're paying for this time , so I'm Break a hip Break .
Speaker 2Break Everybody break Break so funny .
Speaker 1Yeah , so I know you're paying for this time , so I'm going to give you your time . I don't want to take anything away . You paid for it , so I'm giving it to you . So I believe what was it Underrated lead singers ? Or was it band members more popular than lead singers ? What did you want to talk about ?
Speaker 2Well , so you know , what I find interesting is that you jump on Dr Google and Dr Google has a list of singers that are overrated . And then I go to the next one and you find some similarities . And then you go to the next one and you find some similarities , and then you go to the next one , you find some similarities . But the one that I really am going to curl your toes on is , uh , and I believe this wholeheartedly is , I think that Bono is way , way way overrated , all right , so I'm .
Speaker 1I was saying underrated lead singers , like lead singers that people don't pay attention to , right , and you can say that I got that list .
Speaker 2I got that list too , but I'm talking about Well , you're not alone .
Speaker 1You're not alone in saying that . You're really not alone . I've heard that a number of times , yeah .
Speaker 2I think it was . I was watching this , this show , and I can't remember what show it was , and they had all of you two on there , and there he was as cocky and arrogant as he could possibly be with the sunglasses on in the studio and he said that he is the greatest . They are the greatest rock man to ever walk the face of the earth , better than any name . All the people . They're better , our bands that are better than and then he starts proceeding to talk about how much money that they make . And right , there was the last time that I had any respect for for you two or bono or anybody else , and so I'll stick with the 80s stuff that they in in some of the 90s , but after that I'm done with them so is it ?
Speaker 1is it uh cockiness , or is in arrogance , or is it pompy , very pompous ?
Speaker 2well , I think that you know what I mean . If you were to look up on webster under pompy is that what you said ? His picture would be pompous . Yeah , yeah , his picture would be there , so , anyway . So I I think he should lead the charts on overrated lead singers . Okay .
Speaker 1All right . Well , you know , you're not the first to say that , like I said , but as far as underrated , like I said , like Pete Burns from Dead or Alive , great voice , great , but looked over , looked past , because maybe it's the genre of music that dance music that you know , synth music , and you know he had that androgynous look and it was , you know , club music , right . So a lot of great singers get overlooked because of that . You know , is Mick Jagger a great singer ? You know , no , no , no , uh , is Neil Young a great singer ? You know , no , no , no . Is Neil Young a great singer ? No , they have a unique voice , right . But what I want to know is great singers that nobody talks about .
Speaker 1And this came on when I was listening . Like this came about , this whole topic came about when I was listening to Tears for Fears . And you know , roldan Ozabal is , you know , and Kurt Smith . Kurt Smith has the very light voice . Roldan Ozabal is that big , he's got the big voice and I never really appreciated him until I saw them live a couple years ago . And the dude sounds exactly the same and his voice is big and clear and crisp and spot on , like his voice hasn't cracked . He could sing those songs , like he did back in 1983 , you know , but no one ever talks about like the great voice . You know , it's just as a as a group .
Speaker 2Yeah , and , and they , they play a concert in Sacramento and I had to run the security for it back in my previous life , and so the command post was a mile away and it was a sold out show and I and nothing happened . It was .
Speaker 2It was a great event , tears for fears born out of my mind because I couldn't see the stage . But I stepped outside and I can hear every single word , Like I was standing in front of the stage and it was . It was amazing , it was , it was , it was an incredible concert . I just didn't get to watch it .
Speaker 1Yeah , they're good . Live kurt smith . Like I said , uh , after I saw them a couple years ago I don't know what episode it was he's got a very soft voice and as singers get older , that's a hard voice to carry , like it becomes a struggle after a while . You know , and he was just hitting it , he was just hitting some notes , but you know you could hear that it was just slightly down a notch because these songs we know them like the back of our hand , right , we ? We know all the songs . You listen to a song and you can pick out . Well , that chord wasn't right because we've heard it so much .
Speaker 2You know , and and uh , his voice was right there , but I don't see him , like five years , still singing like that you know who's got a truly under , who's underrated as a singer and really doesn't get the respect that he deserves , is the lead singer of stepping on cat's tails . That lead singer is Scott McClain . I mean , come on now , seriously . Nobody respects your voice . But you know , when you start the thing , it sounds like somebody stepping on my cat's tail .
Speaker 1Hey , wait , a no , no , no , something happens and I'm head over heels . I never find out till I'm head over heels , I never find out till . I'm head over heels , just just disconnected from the show just now she's your only one listening come on , I , I saw when I'm when the music said I sound just like them . Just ask me right ?
Speaker 2yeah , just come on , yeah , come , step on the cat's tails . That's the name of your band . No , no , no , no , no , no , no , no . So I was looking at , you know I didn't do a lot of deep dive into underrated singers . I did more . I mean there's a few underrated singers , I did more . I mean there's a , there's a few .
Speaker 2But mainly I was looking at , I was looking at band members that that outshine the lead singer and different bands , and that's where I spent the bulk of my time looking at . I mean , cause , look , there's a lot of singers that that get don't get the respect that they deserve . Uh , they're not great singers but you know , they led the bands to stardom . And you know I give a good example , like axl rose . I think axl rose his range is great , his thing is not that good but his range is great . And you , you know I used to love Guns N' Roses back in the day , that that that that was the band that took it over to that , to that next level .
Speaker 2I thought everything had to be like Depeche Mode and those are the things I listened to and I wouldn't go into the heavy metal bands or rock bands . And then you know , guns N' Roses comes along , metallica comes along those kinds of bands like that . And Guns N' Roses comes along , metallica comes along , those kind of bands like that , and then all of a sudden I have this whole new genre of music that I want to listen to .
Speaker 1Right , right From the eighties . Who do you think ? So ? What are we talking about ? Are we talking about band members that are more popular ?
Speaker 2I don't even know , scott , I don't know what are we talking about .
Speaker 1I thought you just jumped over to music phone .
Speaker 2I thought it was music , but I'm confused . Now I don't even know . Hey , you know , wait , wait , wait . Before you go any further , where's Jack ?
Speaker 1Oh , I don't know , I don't know , I didn't even call him this week . I'm like , no , I'm not doing that . I'm not his dog , oh boy , no , he was in phoenix , yeah , he got home from phoenix yesterday . So I wasn't yeah , I wasn't gonna uh , you know , wasn't gonna put it on him , not that it mattered , you know . Um , so I I want to talk about another underrated singer , and I know you've heard of the band , you've heard of the Guess who , right . Oh , yeah , all right Like this guy .
Speaker 2All right .
Speaker 1Burton Cummings . It was too late . I think Burton Cummings is one of the most underrated singers in music history . That guy had a great voice but never really , you know , got the credit . Never got the credit . Great band , and that's how sometimes it's looked at . Just as a whole , yeah , good singer Like Farna Lou Graham is the perfect example of a great voice , but no one paid attention to it because it's all Farna . It's like Farna . Right , what are you doing ? Right , what are you doing ? You're making a lot of noise there . I'm making noise . You're making a lot of noise there . I'm making noise . You're making a lot of shuffling . You're shuffling things around . I'm still at work .
Speaker 2I'm pretending like I'm working so that my boss , when he walks by , doesn't question me . That's great .
Speaker 1Didn't we all have our ways of doing that when we were in the office , when you were the chief of police , you really didn't have to do anything , you could just sit there , well there's no one to question you Back in the day , Right , All right .
Speaker 2So they used to knock on my door . They used to knock on my door . I shut the door every afternoon . And they'd knock on the door and say well , what are you doing ? Are you taking a nap ? And I was like I was . Did you have a couch in your ?
Speaker 1office .
Speaker 2No , but I had a huge chair that reclined .
Speaker 1It was great so you could , every once in a while , just close the door , lock it and just like , leave me alone . I need to decompress a little bit right , I'm in a meeting , yeah . Because I mean who's above you ? You're the chief , the commissioner , commissioner , did you have a commissioner ?
Speaker 2there , or were you the top car ? It was me , you know that . But I also worked , you know , 18 hour days , every day . So it wasn't like yeah , it wasn't like . You know , I was cheating . I , you need a nap once in a while .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah . No , you were cheating , you were cheating the , the , the , but that's all right . That was then . This is now you're on you're on private company money , not not state money anymore . That's true .
Prominent Band Members vs. Lead Singers
Speaker 1So what about ? What about band members that are more popular than lead singers ? Do you , do you have any of those ?
Speaker 2I do . I have a list besides , uh , uh , you know the obvious uh , scott mcclain from uh on the cat's tail , that's right . Uh , eight . So you know you , you called and asked me about that last week and my first , the very first one that came to my mind was tommy lee from my motley crew , and I know that the motley crew fans are going to say no , vince Neal , he's more popular and everything else . If you're not a Motley Crue fan and you said , give me a name of a band member of Motley Crue , tommy Lee's name is going to come up . And that has more to do with the fact that he he and Pamela Anderson made her , made that tape and it went around and made his rounds and stuff and made him famous . But I think that he was the very first one that popped in my head .
Speaker 1So there's that . There's that Plus . He was , you know he is , but back in the day he was an over-the-top drummer . He was known for his . I saw them live , live , and he has a crazy drum set that you know , elevates off the ground . I watched him get hauled to the top of a arena in Fort Lauderdale and then swing from one end to the other literally playing drums and then swinging back . They had a drum kit up on the left side and then he'd swing back across . It was crazy , like he was the show , you know what I mean , like he was the standout of the show . So you know , there are , there are some drummers that , uh , that can do that , they can pull that off . And I'll give you tommy lee , I think , if you said , you know I didn't give any guidelines to this . So , yeah , I guess , if you said motley crew would be tomm Tommy Lee because of the celebrity connection , right ? What about ? What about ? Uh , band members more popular than the lead singers ? Carlos Santana , right , it's his band , right ?
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah .
Speaker 1But he never really sings .
Speaker 2I am on my list only because I'm not a fan . I don't really understand the popularity . He's a great guitarist and uh , but after that , uh , I don't understand it . I really don't . I don't get the popularity . Uh , maybe it was the times , but uh , I don't get it without a , without a pop . A popular person that he's singing with it's , it's just , it's just elevator noise to me . I don't really pay attention to anything that he's he's playing , so yeah , um , I know I never got him .
Speaker 1I I like I said I got his . Uh , I got his albums and I give them away , like I , if somebody wants it . I'm like , yeah , you want to ? Oh , you want a vinyl ? I got a nice vinyl record for you and I'll give him a Carlos Santana and this is a perfect example . But although I do love this song though I love this song Now . He is great on the guitar , I give him that , but Michelle Branch is singing it . This was that compilation album that he did . I fucking love this song . Such a cool the gamer love . Such a cool fucking song , man .
Speaker 2So it's interesting because I'm on the phone , I can't actually hear what you have playing there .
Speaker 1Ah , okay , all right .
Speaker 2Well , that's why you have these awkward pauses I didn't know you couldn't hear that .
Speaker 1That makes sense . That makes sense . Uh , I I hope the listeners can hear it or I'm talking to nobody , or the music's going to but santana's on my list .
Speaker 2I got a couple more , though I think like , uh , you know you got like eddie van halen , uh , I don't know about that , uh you know , fucking .
Speaker 1David lee roth is pretty , fucking popular man .
Speaker 2David lee roth is pretty popular he and the lead singer , the stepping on the cat's tails . They'll , they'll both tell you how great they are , but I , I don't . I don't understand that . Actually , I like , uh , I like sammy agar better , but uh , yeah , I I mean later on .
Speaker 1Uh , you know , I I've come to really not like dave lee roth . I think he's a fucking , he's a tool now and he's he's a joke . And then I watch videos from back in the day , right from from mtv , and uh , I'm like how did I not see this guy ? This guy is a fucking tool , great performer . You know , perfect voice for van halen , but his personality no wonder they wanted to kill him . He's just , he was a fucking douche . He just seemed like a douche .
Speaker 2You know , yeah , but you know all us testosterone driven teenagers you know early 20s with .
Speaker 1We were all into it because he was that cool guy . And you know mtv and van halen , but I don't know if he , if eddie van halen , is more popular than in that sense . You know . I mean , david lee roth was like a fucking , uh , a god , like a lead singer , like god for a while , you know , and but I mean , hey , listen , I , I , I can see it the other way too , but I have a question mark next to his because he's on my , uh , he's on my list , but I have a question . What ?
Speaker 2do you what do you always say it's your list . There's no wrong answer .
Speaker 1No it is . But this is kind of a debatable type of thing . You know what I mean Like , but like , okay , I'll say Gene Simmons from Kiss he sang some songs . He sang some songs God of Thunder and you know but Paul Stanley was the lead singer really . Like he sang three quarters of the songs , which makes him the lead singer , and I think gene simmons was always more popular than paul stanley and the other guys in the band . Would you agree ? I ?
Speaker 2I would agree . I'm not a huge kiss fan , though , either , so I mean it really . Most of the , you know , you google all this stuff , you look it up and you prepare and try to make you know something interesting out of the topic and and you and I'm like , I didn't like that band . I didn't like that band , I didn't like that . I never listened to that band , you know , and stuff . So , uh , I , I , I don't know , I just was never a big kiss fan . I had um friends growing up and they swore by them and they'd always play them when we'd go over and they'd put the records on and everything else , but I just was never a huge KISS fan . Are you American ? Maybe it's the guys wearing makeup and stuff like that ? That's not any joke there .
Speaker 1I just didn't understand the whole concept . But when they broke you , I mean what ? You were not in middle school , you were in elementary school when they broke you know you yeah , you really didn't . Yeah , I don't think you would have got it right . And when I was in junior high , you know that was the big deal .
Speaker 2I grew up listening . I grew up listening to country music , so I didn't , I didn't really have . You know , that's all that was played in my house . There was some , there was some other stuff , you know , and then I , then you , then later on in high school , and everything else I branched off to other stuff .
Speaker 1Right , right . What else do you have on your list ?
Speaker 2How about a little bit more contemporary than the 70s and 80s ? How about Tom Morello from Raging Against ?
Speaker 1the Machine . That's a good one and , by the way , I don't Google . These are all my list , not google's list thank you .
Speaker 2I I pulled a flan . I had to because you don't want to talk about country music .
Speaker 1King of google . Um , so I had tom morello . Rage against the machine ? Zach de la rocha ? Yeah , probably , probably . Yeah , if you're not , because , yeah , and he he kind of stood out too as a guitar player and he would do interviews and like he was kind of out there . If you're a rage against the machine fan , then that's why I kind of question it's iffy , because you know , zach Della Rocha , that might be a 50-50 . That's like a Jagger and Richards , like who's more popular , keith Richards or Mick Jagger . Good luck , good luck with that one , right .
Speaker 2Well , how about Brian Wilson from the Beach Boys ?
Speaker 1Brian Wilson is a . I mean he's well known as a genius , like he was . Everybody kind of knew from the beginning . Brian Wilson was the Beach Boys , mike Love is the face of it . So , okay , more popular than the lead singer , yeah , but Brian Wilson did sing some songs too , but Mike Love was the lead singer and that's what drove Mike Love crazy . That's exactly what drove him crazy .
Speaker 2He's been the basis of the songwriter , though . I mean he's the genius behind the songs .
Speaker 1Yeah , and everything about it and the production of the songs , and I think that's what always pissed off Mike Love is Brian Wilson would get attention of the songs , and I think that's what that's what always pissed off mike love is is , uh , brian wilson would get attention . He would get attention because he everyone figured out he's the one that's doing this . You know , uh , and mike love is a douche , another fucking douche . You know , david lee roth isn't even in the stratosphere of of mike doucheness you know , hey , david Lee Roth's California Girls though great video , yeah , I appreciate that one .
Speaker 1All his videos were funny , they were good , I mean , he was entertaining . And that's why I say it's hard to say that Eddie Van Halen was more popular than David Lee Roth . Again , I think that's a case of Jagger and Richards McCartney and Lennon , right , you know , like these two big personalities side by side . And then so let's go with Angus Young . Yeah , acdc , he's on my list . Yeah , angus Young more popular than Brian Johnson . Now , if , if , uh , what's his name ? The original lead singer had lived , it might not be the case , because he was a fucking personality , you know uh , I just don't know how Angus Young doesn't have like a permanent headache .
Speaker 1He probably does . He probably has a fucking neck problems , I'm sure , I'm sure he does , he , he has to .
Speaker 2You know , I remember going to a club I I used .
Speaker 1There was this club in boston called the channel and it used to have a lot of great like is that in new england ?
Speaker 2hey , wait , wait , is that in new england ?
Speaker 1it's in boston proper .
Speaker 2Yeah , it's in new england .
Speaker 1Yes , yes , um and uh , we would go see certain bands and I remember one night I went to one of these and I was right at the stage and all jacked up and you know drunk and you know whatever , and like I , I was like doing the whole headbanging thing right up and down , and I don't know how I woke up the next morning and my fucking neck was killing me Like it was , like I couldn't even move it .
Speaker 2I was like I'm surprised .
Speaker 1I didn't really have whiplash or something , but never really did that again .
Speaker 2No , never did that again . You should do it .
Speaker 1No , I don't know how . Like so , Metallica , right In their younger days . Uh , you know that's what they would do . They would just fucking their head , would go up and down , up and down . And uh , Jason Newstead , I think he did have neck problems after a while . Uh , the bass player , the one that left , Um , I think because of of that , he had neck problems I don't know
Internet Friends and Musical Preferences
Speaker 1.
Speaker 2Remember that guy , uh um donovan from uh , when we were stationed overseas yeah , yeah , jeff donovan , yeah , yeah yeah , yeah . So he introduced me to metallica . And uh , we were . We were standing and looking at CDs . You know , they came in every Tuesday .
Speaker 1This was in the Philippines , where the people listen , and this is when me and Todd was stationed in the Philippines .
Speaker 2And we were standing and he says you can't handle that group , you can't handle that , you only like to listen . That he had a term for the music I listened to and I won't say it , but you can say it . You can say it . No , no , it's okay it's derogatory it's derogatory way too inappropriate . But he said , you know , he said that you , you can't handle that .
Speaker 1And so I I got the patalica cd and I was like , okay , I'm booked so , wait , wait , this guy , this fucking guy , just commented in my my buddy , andy Mura , all the way from Australia , he's watching . Yeah , you got two listeners , yeah , I got way more than that , but I think , yeah , andy Mura . So Andy's my buddy , right , we're actually friends and we've never met . We've never met . He just says you were doing that head-banging thing , question mark you , bogan . That's bogan is a , is a a slang ? Uh , in australia I think it means fucking idiot . In american I think it means fucking idiot , yeah , but me and andy , like we , we met and I love this story .
Speaker 1So during the whole lockdown , you know , everybody started finding ways to stay entertained and I would . I started going on these , these Smiths , the Smiths like Facebook groups , right , and I started creating these like mashup videos , like I would take a Smith song and I'd put it with like a movie scene , like from West side story , and it matched like it was thing . And this motherfucker starts shredding me like just looking for a fight , right , and he's like criticizing me . I'm like I put work into this , right , and this dude , I don't know at the time , he's from Australia , right , and he just starts giving me the business . So I give it right back to him and he gives it right back to me . But I got him Like he has this like wit about him that I started I kind of respected it Right , and so like we FaceTimed a couple , more than a couple , of times during the whole pandemic thing .
Speaker 1You know , I think it's 13 hours difference or something . But yeah , me and Andy have been buddies ever since . Someday we'll meet Someday , like he'll tell me , hey , I'm going to see the church , like in Australia where he is . I think he's in Melbourne and you know we'll like kind of message back and forth through Facebook Messenger or whatever . But that's my buddy , so he's watching all the way from Australia . Good on you , mate . Good on you .
Speaker 2Hey , ask Andy if they listen to country music over there in Australia , American country music .
Speaker 1Andy , I think he heard you . Andy Miura , he's an Italian-Australian . How the fuck does that work ? He's like a guinea kangaroo right .
Speaker 2His great-great-great-great-great-grandfather committed a crime and got pushed off to Australia , and he's living the good life now because of it . He's living the good life in Australia .
Speaker 1I don't know , I don't know . I think Australia might be slightly overrated , considering it gets up to 120 degrees there in the summer . I don't know , I don't know , I think . I think australia might be slightly overrated , considering it gets up to 120 degrees there in the summer .
Speaker 1I don't know , I don't know , and there's white sharks what I just did is what the the idiots and I love them , they're my idiots , but the idiots up north , my friends , they're like I'm not going to fucking florida , there's alligators and sharks down there . I'm not going down there , it's too hot in Florida . I just did that to Andy about Australia . It's too hot and there's sharks , but they got crocodiles . If you live in the city people , you don't have that shit .
Speaker 2My daughter lives in Ohio , and it was negative eight a couple of about a week ago , and so I'm pretty sure that anybody that lives in that temperature would love to be in Florida right now .
Speaker 1Yeah , my friend Joanne Kozborski . She says , hi Scott , hi Joanne , I love you , joanne , she's such a nice person , such , maybe Joanne Ko's such a nice person such .
Speaker 2Maybe Joanne Kiswowski might be the nicest person on Facebook . Has she ever met you in ?
Speaker 1person . Yeah , yeah , yeah , we met . We met at one of my town parties . Uh , when me and Jack used to throw those parties until my friend Bob , it was the three of us he passed away , so we're not doing them anymore , but yeah , she came . She came to one of them . It was great . I met her and her husband . We had pictures . It was a St Patrick's Day thing , so it was pretty good . So , yes , I did get to meet Joanna . She's a wonderful person . Like I said , maybe the nicest person on Facebook .
Speaker 2Hey , another question for you , Scott Are you ever going to listen to country music ?
Speaker 1No , well , I mean , I will listen to country music , country Western . I won't listen to new country music . I won't listen to country pop .
Speaker 2So I'm telling you right now , for you and all your three listeners , that you're missing out a little bit . There are some really actually some good songs out there right now . Are some really actually some good songs out there right now and you know I'm not a big fan of the of the country that you know bleeds over into pop or rap or anything else , you know but there are some really good songs out there right now and I think that you're missing out , scott . There's some . There's some great ones that could relate to you and your personal life and your former life and what we used to do , and I mean , I think there's some good writing going on in the country world .
Speaker 1Well , I'll leave that to you . My friend , I'll leave that .
Conversational Ramblings on Music Preferences
Speaker 1You're the subject . Did you ever get sick of that term ? Did you ever get sick of the term in the military or in your police career ? I know I did real fast the term in the military or in your police career . I know I did real fast . Uh , that todd is the subject matter expert for this particular subject did you have all that ?
Speaker 2all that means is you know 51 more than the other guy we had this , uh uh uh , we had this fucking .
Speaker 1She was just an asshole . She was a team leader I don't care in in customs she was an asshole and , uh , the chief liked her for some reason and , like I don't know , she all of a sudden , all of a sudden . Now I did 10 years in the air force and I think my first couple years I used german shepherds and the rest were Malinois . For the rest of my career , like the last seven years straight of just Malinois all the way through , and you work with Malinois for seven years , you kind of know a lot about Malinois , would you ? Would you agree , todd , a hundred percent , being an ex-K-9 guy right In the military and in military and in the police departments , somehow , this guy , this chief , he blessed her with .
Speaker 1She is the Belgian Malinois subject matter expert . She's the expert on Malinois . She spent , like I don't know , four years in the Air Force . That was it . And I don't even know how many dogs that four years in the Air Force , that was it . And I don't even know how many dogs that she had in the Air Force in four years . Maybe one , right , but somehow she becomes the subject matter expert on Belgian Malinois .
Speaker 2Good luck being an expert on those fucking dogs . Yeah , no , that's a lifetime of learning with those dogs .
Speaker 1Look at seven years and I still had one that that beat me . I , I couldn't , I , I lost , I lost , it was , it was devastating to me . Yeah , uh , he kind of washed out but , yeah , I was a great .
Speaker 2Uh , the difference between a german shepherd and a malinois is a German shepherd walks into the room looking for bad guy or drugs and goes into the room and says , oh well , there's a lamp over in the corner . The light is a little dimmed . It's about , you know , 200 square feet , so I'm going to go ahead and start over here and it analyzes the entire room . Malinois goes in , knocks over that lamp , takes out the lighting , goes through the wall and finds a guy on the other side . That's the difference between the two dogs One analyzes the other , one just goes in head first and you have to figure out a way to control that .
Speaker 1And and uh , and I found out , uh , speaking of German Shepherds , when I was working them in customs as detective dogs . Uh , well , I didn't have them but I watched them , right , I had partners that had German Shepherds and I knew this about German Shepherds and I'll say , in detection work I didn't like Malinois . In detection work for various reasons that we don't have to talk about now . The difference between a German Shepherd , detector dog and like a good lab or golden retriever the golden retriever , the lab , goes right to you know , when they hit source , they stay there and they're like dig , bite , bite , big scratch , you know , or sit , whatever German Shepherd's like oh , okay , it's here , but I'm going to check over here too , and then I'm going to go past where I know it is and I'll go to the other side and see if maybe it's over there and I'm going to scan back and it's like motherfucker , like yeah , german Shepherds , but but we digress , we went from Australia to dogs .
Speaker 2So , yeah , hey , while I sit on the phone , I'm telling you there's a song that you have to listen to , even though it is not in your genre of love . For me , does it have ?
Speaker 1synth in it ? Does it have synth in it any sense ? But ?
Speaker 2papa roach decided to go over to country music and he has a song with carrie underwood saying that , and it's called Leave a Light On Dude . It's incredible . You should at least listen to it Leave a Light On what is it .
Speaker 1It's Motel 6 . Write that down . Listen to it Papa Roach and Carrie Underwood in a Motel 6 .
Speaker 2That guy can sing .
Speaker 1Say it again . What is that ? Carrie Underwood and Papa Roach ? Did they write that in a Motel 6 ? We'll leave the light on . I can't wait to listen to it . Before you go let me get Patty said great song . She's heard it .
Speaker 2It is a great song . There's another one by Ella Langley that you have to listen to . It says you Look Like you Love Me . That's every man's dream . If you ever listen to that back in the day Now I'm too old , but back then that would have been great yeah , well , I'm glad you heard it .
Speaker 1Give me .
Speaker 2That's a great song too . You got to open up your mind , Scott .
Speaker 1No , I've tried , I'm not listening to that shit , I'm just not . Hey , give me two more . Give me two more band members uh , more popular than the lead singer two more band members , yeah , do you have .
Speaker 2That , do you have ?
Speaker 1two more on your list , two more or is your ?
Speaker 2list done no , that's my list , I'm done okay , okay I found six that I can actually talk about .
Speaker 1All right , Well , listen . Then you did six . That was better than five , right ?
Speaker 2I gave you something to open your mind . I gave you some country music . I have the top 10 country music songs that you should be listening to right now . I'm all listed out .
Speaker 1You know what ? It's ? Not about me , me , you've been trying to hammer this whole hip-hop thing on me . I'm , I'm it's not about me , it's about the listener . So let's get big head todd the wet sprockets . Top 10 list of country songs you should be listening to .
Speaker 2Here we go all right number and not in any particular order , but these , this is . I got them listed one through 10 . So Jordan Davis and Luke Bryant by dirt . Great song , jelly roll , winning street . Great song , morgan Wallen , love somebody . Great song , thomas Mack Ain't no Scott ? You have to listen to that one . That is absolutely hilarious .
Speaker 1Way too many to listen to .
Speaker 2Sam Barber , indigo Great . Have to listen to that one . That is absolutely hilarious . There's way too many to listen to . Sam barber , indigo great song . Zach top um , uh , I never lie . Great song . Uh , let me see zach brian . I remember everything . Sam hunt , breaking up in a small town great song . I already told you about papa roach and carrie underwood . Leave uh light on six . Then the hell of langley , it looks like I love you , you looks like you love me . That's a . That's my top 10 to listen to right now . Underwood , leave a Light On and then Hello , langley , it Looks Like I Love you , you Looks Like you Love Me . That's my top 10 to listen to right now . You should make a playlist and put it on your podcast so that people take those and listen to them and learn to appreciate country music for what it is today .
Speaker 1Yeah , how about if you do that ? How about if you make the top 10 country songs you should be listening to and you can use the milk crates and turntables thing ? Go on Spotify , create a , spread a playlist milk crates and turntables top 10 country songs you should be those . Be my guest . Be my guest Use the brand .
Speaker 2Did you ever read that story on that guy that , uh , every time he um . On that guy that , uh , every time he um , every time he bent over , country music started playing out of his ass . Did you ever read that story ? No , no , so he , he , every time he bends over , country music starts playing out of his ass . He goes oh , I gotta go to the doctor , there's something wrong with me . So he goes to the doctor and he goes doctor , doctor , you gotta look at this . So he goes to the doctor and he pulls down his pants , he bends over and country music starts playing out of his ass . And the doctor says that's not a big deal . And he goes wait , did you not see I bend over and country music comes out of my ass . And the doctor goes no , no , it's okay , because any old asshole can play country music ah , yeah , yeah , okay yeah , yeah , I gave you it out , hold on there you go , crickets .
Speaker 1And what happened ?
Speaker 2that's all I got that's that's . That's the funniest thing I know . I don't have any other ones .
Speaker 1I I haven't . I haven't used that sound effect since mark smith who , by the way , everybody mark smith is doing well . I still talk to him all the time . Mark smith is doing well um , now , since ?
Speaker 2since ? Do I have to give you a whoa , whoa , whoa , whoa , or you're an idiot ? Do I have to say those two things while we're on , or ?
Speaker 1I could go . Without that , I go , I can go , hey , hey it's almost over way more things to talk about so , but I might , I might not . Um , what about pantera ? You , are you familiar with pantera ?
Speaker 2not one little bit . I know that . I know that they they have good bread there do you ever hear of the alan parsons project ? Oh yeah , yeah , I actually know somebody that used to date , alan Parsons . Actually , maybe still does , I don't really know . But I've heard all the stories .
Speaker 1He's a perfect example of more popular than the lead singer , because Alan Parsons never sang . He never sang .
Speaker 2Yeah , so that shows you how little I know about Alan Parsons . No , a lot of people didn't know that , because I don't know about the stories .
Speaker 1A lot of people didn't know that . Yeah , oh , about the stories that your friend or whatever that my friend tells me . Yeah , is he gay ? No , she , oh , she , oh , okay All right , I was going to say I didn't know . Alan Parsons , you know , jumped over the fence . I was just , you know no .
Speaker 2No , that's good to know .
Speaker 1That's good to know . What about Travis Barker from Blink-182 ? Blink-182? .
Speaker 2You never heard of Travis .
Speaker 1Barker , he dated Pink , I think , for a while , or they were married . They were married . Yeah dated pink , I think for a while , or they were married . They were married . Yeah , that doesn't matter .
Speaker 2You brought up tommy lee and pamela , all of my , my , my knowledge . I got nothing left I'm just your average music listened listener . That's it . I got nothing if I don't listen to your show . I know nothing about music did you just pull ?
Speaker 1did you just pull a richard garen ? Uh in a , a gentleman and an officer , officer and a gentleman .
Speaker 2I got nothing you can't kick me out . I got nothing . I got nowhere to go was there ever a more pathetic scene . What are you ?
Speaker 1lewis gossett Jr right now , goddamn mayonnaise . Yeah , I got nothing , scott .
Speaker 2Your ratings are plummeting with me on your show .
Speaker 1I don't care . After 171 episodes , do you think I'm really looking ? I got my ratings . I get my downloads . I'm good with all that . I'm not looking . I got my ratings , I get my downloads . I I'm good with all that . I'm not worried about that .
Speaker 2They , I think , my cult following follows , I think . If Jack doesn't show up next week , I think maybe you should have Iron man uh , be your co-host .
Speaker 1I yeah , he's . He doesn't have much to say .
Speaker 2That's the problem well , he has more better information about music than than your calling .
Speaker 1Yes , well , listen , if I have , if I have a , uh , I'll give you a , a heads up . You pay for the time , so I gotta give you the time right . So I'll give you a heads up on what you should google next week we'll just call I , I flinned it .
Speaker 2I'll just call ai , right just just , it's the same thing .
Speaker 1Hey , you know what I use ai more now than I do speaking of ai . Look at that , perry denovich , the ai he says I like when you talk to the sprocket . See , you have your fans . Now Patty likes you . You got fans .
Speaker 2I see Patty weighing in there , yeah , you got fans , you got fans .
Speaker 1Don't beat yourself up . Big head , todd , he does have a big head .
Speaker 2No beating up , I'm good , I'm good , I know what I like , I like . What I like and that's the thing too is that you are pretty well-rounded . You are a little narrow when it comes to the country music , but you know , I think that people like what they like
Musical Exploration and Discovery
Speaker 2. You know there's I don't I want to listen to a genre of music when I'm in the car and I don't want the DJ to veer from that . Like you know , I listened and I don't want the DJ to veer from that . Like you know , I listened . It was . It was what's the guy's name from Wham , not George Michael , the other guy .
Speaker 1Oh , you just caught me . Yeah , yeah , yeah , andrew Ridgway .
Speaker 2So it was his birthday and they played Wham on Sirius XM's First Wave and I'm like that's not a First Wave , not a first wave show , uh , so don't , don't , don't play that on this channel , I don't want to listen to it . So I mean , and I don't know if that's normal , but I just like what I like and I think that you know when , when , when you know people like you that try to listen to a whole bunch of different genres of music and you guys analyze them and think about them and do deep dives and stuff like that . That's why I like listening to the show , because I don't do any of that . I just say , okay , I like that song , I don't like that song , I like that group and I don't like that group .
Speaker 1But I'm pretty sure that I'm the norm you just might be , I go down rabbit holes with music , like on spotify , or I used to do it on Amazon when I was paying for Amazon music . Um , I just I just go down these rabbit holes and I find some good shit , like it's . So I hear a song and this is kind of how , how it , how it goes with me . Um , I'll be , I'll be watching a video on YouTube or a Facebook reel or something , and uh , I'll hear like a song in the background . It's just a clip of the song and I I become like I want to find out what song that is and I start going into all this , like I start reading comments and like I could scroll fucking a thousand comments to find out who that is . And then , if I even get close to it , then I work my way into it and I'll find the song .
Speaker 1And then with that song , there's usually other songs around it or suggestions , right . So that takes me down a whole nother rabbit hole . I did that the other night for like almost two hours just scanning through music and adding shit to my very few to my playlist . But you know , that's just how I do it . You know I'll sit down . It's , it's relaxing to me to do that , you know , and that's how I sound like a lot of work , scott no , you're just sitting there .
Speaker 1Yeah , I'm just sitting in the recliner , I'm not doing any hard hitting , I'm just listening to music and in a song . So a song has to get me in like the first 15 seconds , about the first 15 seconds , and if it , if it's all right , I'm still waiting I'll go to baby 30 seconds . If it gets me in there , I'll listen to the song , if it doesn't , I move on . So I don't listen to full songs .
Speaker 2But when you're doing that , is that based on , like , a certain station that you're listening to , or is it based on a certain era that you're listening to ?
Speaker 1No , it could be a genre , but again , like this song that I played at the beginning of the show , right , I just heard them the other night and I was like I'm going to just I just start doing kind of a deep dive on them . I listened to the songs that are on Spotify . I look at how many downloads , then I'll go to YouTube and I want to see what they look like and I , and then I find other songs by them on YouTube and now I've found a lot of bands where they have like just a couple of good songs and the rest I don't know like these are . These are anomalies , these two good songs , because the rest of it's kind of like blah , you know . But I just , I just love doing that . I love just kind of digging around and finding something new .
Speaker 1And this girl , lola Young , like this girl is going to be a , she's going to be , she's going to have song of the year number one , uh , with the song Messy . It's an amazing song , lyrics are brilliant . She's a young british girl , like english girl , I think she's probably from manchester , heavy cockney accent , um , kind of overweight , doesn't you know ? Just , she's just herself great fucking voice . But I heard the song on on a facebook re and I was like who is that ? It was just literally like a 10-second clip of it and I found it and I was like this girl's fucking good Next thing , you know , like she's starting to blow up . She's starting to blow up and it's just that's what .
Speaker 1If I hear something , I like I look for it , and there's usually stuff around it , you know . But it's what I do do , I've always done that , so it's not a lot to me . Some people would rather play video games or some people would rather read a book . It's all . It's all the same , you know , it's just . Mine takes me in another direct , a bunch of directions . Yeah , patty us . He says messy . I've been kind of . I've been pushing that song for like the last week , but my generation doesn't get it .
Speaker 2I'm looking at it on my iPad . You're right , she you know . Yeah , listen to the song .
Speaker 1The song's fucking amazing . It's amazing Like . This is . My wife , dr Vera , actually said we were listening to it on the way home and she never says anything , like she just listens and she doesn't mind , right , she's cool . And as soon as the song ends , the only thing she says is that was a very angry song . That was a very angry song .
Speaker 2I'm going to have to listen to it now , but that's going to be song of the year .
Speaker 1I guarantee now , and it's only January that's going to be song of the year . I guarantee now and it's only January that's going to be song of the year , no doubt , no doubt .
Speaker 2And again , the average guy , the average person listening to your show , goes oh okay , I'm going to listen to that one , but other than that , I would never hear that song . Because , again , I have my set stations on right , on sirius xm , I have certain songs downloaded on my phone , uh , that I play , especially when that uh , terrible , terrible show uh from uh marky ramon , yeah , it's terrible . So on tuesday when I drive home , that's when it starts it starts at five o'clock on pacific time and I I gotta listen to something else . I can't listen to that guy . Um , yeah , you know , as we all know , I'm not a ramones fan . I think they are way , way , way , way overrated , even though jack loves them yeah , so you and me both , buddy , you and me both .
Speaker 1But uh , all right . Well , listen , I know you got to get back to work , so this was your lunch hour . Oh , no , it's eight o'clock at night . You're , are you home ?
Speaker 2no , no , it's five o'clock it's 501 at my desk at work and , uh , nobody's bothering me , which means that I'm really not that important . What time do you leave ? Uh 501 501 .
Speaker 1That's when I leave . So well , buddy , thanks for giving me an hour . That was great .
Speaker 2That was great yeah , no problem , I'm sure , like I said , I'm sure your one listener uh was was thrilled to hear my voice when perry denovich , the ai , pipes in and gives you the two thumbs up , then you're good .
Music Preferences and Discussions
Speaker 2The AI does not fuck around . He's on YouTube .
Speaker 1He comments off YouTube . The AI doesn't fuck around . He won't say anything if he doesn't like it , but if he likes it he'll say something , and he did . He got the AI's two thumbs up . That's a thing . That's a thing I'll go with that .
Speaker 2Yeah , I'm going to end it with that . That way , I leave on a good note , you know so . As long as you keep paying for your time . I'll call you next week too . Yeah , Thanks for that . Thanks for all the seed money and stuff to get me on the show . I appreciate that .
Speaker 1No , you pay me , I don't pay you . You pay me . Don't tell the fans that I'm paying you .
Speaker 2Do not say that this is .
Speaker 1I'm paid , I'm not . You're paying me . I'm not paying you , you're paying me .
Speaker 2Listen , listen , listen . Don't cash that check I gave you . Give me a couple months before you try to cash that check .
Speaker 1All right , buddy , Listen . Thanks for sitting in and doing this . This was fun , man .
Speaker 2Yeah , yeah , all right , have a great rest of your show .
Speaker 1All right , my brother , I'll talk to you later .
Speaker 2All right , bye .
Speaker 1Bye , there you go . Yeah , there you go . Big head , todd the Witsprocket . He did almost an hour . Look at him , he did 50 minutes or something . He's getting paid to do that . That's well , that's that's . When you're the boss , you can do that , you know . So let me get back to this . So I have , so we're over an hour right now , and I , you know , I have a bunch of names of band members that are more popular than the lead singers .
Speaker 1I have underrated singers , and I promised Patty that I would do this , and and this is like the third week now and I started doing it but me and Todd Big Head , todd the wet sprocket , got caught up in BAMM . So I'll do . I'll do underrated lead singers next week . Patty , don't be mad at me . She chastised me last week . I thought you were doing underrated singers . She commented that she chastised me . Last week . I thought you were doing underrated singers . She commented that she chastised me .
Speaker 1I think it was in capital letters too , with an angry face emoji and a middle finger emoji . I think that too I don't know if I remember correctly Could be wrong , could be wrong . You know what he gave me ? This song , let's see . It's called . What was it called uh , keep the light on , and I don't know , keep the light on . I can't listen to this shit , but I he's a big head to all the west rockers . Oh , it's such a great song , you'll love it . Papa roach yeah , papa roach went over the country . That , that's okay . I'm fine . I learned from you no , she , she didn't get , or you didn't give me the capital letters with the angry face emoji and the middle finger Patty , no , oh , okay , that must've been somebody else . Then I get those every once in a while . Uh , so , big head , todd the witch market wants me to play . Keep the light on , leave a light on , leave a light on .
Speaker 1You know , papa Roach , he was like that nineties dude . You know that that rap and metal , like rap and rock , rock and metal , whatever it was , uh , and he had a couple of good songs and you know then that they just never really did anything . He never did anything else in this . So you know , this is what they do like . I'm gonna go be a country singer now , right , so against my better judgment , and I'm just gonna . I don't know how much of this I'm gonna play , but this is . I was told to play it , listen to it by bighead tollerwitz , rocket papa roach , carrie underwood . Uh , leave a light on so let's see .
Speaker 2Oh , jesus , really oh , no , no , no no no , no .
Speaker 1What the fuck would make him think I would like this song . Perry Denevich , the AI , says I just smoked a roach . I like smoked a roach better than Papa Roach .
Speaker 2I love it . Papa Roach , I love it .
Speaker 1This is it . This is Leave a Light On what the fuck is this shit . What am I ? I've already listened to it way too much . What the no ? No , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no no hold on hold on , everybody , hold on , come on this . No , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no . So I , I just I just played that song . Leave a light on what the fuck , kind of shit is that ?
Speaker 1what do you ? What do you think soft Like ? What makes you think I'm going to like a ? That song sucks .
Speaker 2You saw him here .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , I had to call you . I just played the song , like half of it , even Perry Denevich the AI says Papa Roach . Yeah , yeah , absolutely amazing song . Yeah , yeah , no , no , no , it's amazingly sucky . Perry Denevich , the AI , commented Papa Roach , I just smoked a roach .
Speaker 2Hey , patty Ozzie likes it , so who do you want to ?
Speaker 1believe . No , she said . She said that's not it is it ? No , buddy , you just lost a lot of credibility . You got a week to make it up . Okay , you got a week to get out of this this is home .
Speaker 2That's a great song . Yeah , yeah , yeah , that's a great song . That guy's got some pipes , carrie underwood's got some pipes .
Speaker 1It's a great song yeah , enjoy drinking your fucking fizzy water beer while you whatever is seltzer beer and you know white claw . Go have a white claw and listen to that music , that song it's perfect with with my pinky out yeah , yeah , yeah , all right , all right , I'll leave you alone .
Speaker 2That song sucked it's a great song . Yeah , yeah , yeah credibility .
Speaker 1You just lost a lot of credibility with me all right , I'll talk to you later all right .
Speaker 1Yeah , no , I'm not . That doesn't that song will . I'm gonna block that song on spotify . I'm gonna block that garbage . What the hell was that really ? Really , I gotta shake that . I gotta shake that . I gotta get , I gotta get something else going here . Um , like I , I have to . I have to lose . I know how I'll get that , I know how I'll get it out . I'm just going to do this . Oh , thank you Lord . Oh , thank you Lord . Thank you . Uh , this is a . This is a cleansing . This is an absolute cleansing .
Speaker 1After that piece of shit song I just listened to Just lost all credibility . Ah , thank you . Thank you , mick and Keith and Mick Taylor . Oh man , yeah , I feel better now . Yeah , I feel better now . I feel better now . Yeah , a little brown sugar Shake it like a black girl should . Yeah , I don't care . I can say that now it's new . New , there's a new time , there's a new sheriff in town . The woke shit is gone .
Speaker 1Although the Beatles I mean the Rolling Stones they say , well , we're not gonna play that song At concert anymore . But you know what ? I give them credit . They've been playing that song for almost 50 years , so you know , that's probably the out that they wanted . Well , it mentions black girls . It says black girls . So you shouldn't sing that anymore in concert , because I'm a white liberal female and that irritates me . Well , I won't go down that avenue . But they were like , okay , we're not going to play it anymore . That's cool , thank God . Thank God , let me see , let me go down my list . I'll finish my list . I have a few more more than a few more band members more popular than their lead singer . But first , let me go back over here , let me go in here , let me go all the way down here scan , scan , scan , scan , scan . And let's go back to I don't know . Let's do , let's do this song again . I like that song , the song I started the show off with . Yeah , I'll put this as some background music . What ?
Speaker 2Huh .
Speaker 1I love this song .
Speaker 2Yeah .
Speaker 1This is some good shit right here . I don't care what anybody says , you gotta have some rhythm . I don't care how white you are .
Speaker 2You gotta have some rhythm .
Speaker 1Right now there's somebody going Ow , I can't believe he's playing that music , it's so terrible . Yeah well , go listen to Fucking Smoke A Roach and Carrie Under Ruse . Yeah , yeah , yeah , alright , where was I ? My videos are getting Slaughtered lately by copyright infringements . Getting slaughtered . I think last week I had a I don't know like 34 copyright violations in one show . Yeah , youtube , I don't get a strike . Like I said , that's really what matters . My channel's good , the video might get you know , know , but again , this is about the podcast . So podcast is like no , they don't care , it's fucking good luck .
Speaker 1All right , let's get back to band members more popular than the lead singer . So I went through carlo santana , gene simmons . What about p Townsend ? Pete Townsend is more popular , I think , than Roger Daltrey Right From the who . I just think he is . I mean , roger , he ekes out , I think he ekes out the win . Roger Daltrey is popular , but I think Pete Townsend was more Dimebag Darryl from Pantera .
Speaker 1Phil Insalmo was the lead singer , but dime bag daryl , the guitar player who unfortunately got murdered on stage some years back . Uh , dime bag was more popular .
Band Members vs. Lead Singers
Speaker 1Um , alan parsons , I already mentioned him . Jerry garcia is jerry gar . I know he sang some songs . I'm not a Grateful Dead like , I don't even like them , but I just think that he's probably more popular than all the other .
Speaker 1I know there's another singer I forget his name Weir , weir , something Weir , and maybe I don't know . Again , I got a question mark next to his , just like Eddie Van Hal . Know again , I got a question mark next to his . Just like Eddie Van Halen , I got a question mark . Is he really more popular than David Lee Roth ? I don't know . Uh , richie Blackmore . Richie Blackmore , I'll say with Rainbow , right , he started the band , so of course he carries the name . But Ronnie James Dio was the lead singer for Rainbow for a little while and he was pretty popular .
Speaker 1But when , ritchie Blackmore , you know , popular Eric Clapton put his solo career aside and oh , there you go . Hey , dr Porkchop just chimed in . This is good evening , my friend . Good evening , dr Porkchop , talking about band members that are more popular than the lead singer , so , but you missed three quarters of the show , but that's okay , that's all right . Dr Porkchop will always get a pass with me .
Speaker 1So , eric clapton , eric clapton , um , um , a solo career aside , he played with the root , a group called the roosters , uh , casey jones and the engineers right in his days . And then he got with the Yardbirds , john Mayles , blues Breakers , cream , delaney and Barney and friends and Blind Faith right . I think Eric Clapton was probably more popular than Jack Bruce and Cream . He was definitely more popular than Steve Winwood and blind faith . Uh , dr Porkchop says Gene Simmons . Oh , big head Todd the wet sprocket just can't let go . I'm driving home , entertain me , nope , uh , dr Porkchop says Gene Simmons yeah , I mentioned him earlier . He was like the second one on my list . I agree , he sang some songs but Paul Stanley was the lead singer but Gene Simmons was the standout in that band . So Eric Clapton , blind Faith again , he was already established . Then the Yardbirds Keith Relf was the lead singer , so definitely I mean that could be a toss-up .
Speaker 1Who was more popular , eric Clapton or Jeff Beck with the original Yardbirds and then Casey Jones and the Engineers ? I don't even know what his status was at that point with those bands , those earlier bands , but I would say any band . After he became like clapped in his God type shit . He was more popular than the lead singer Scott Ian from Anthrax . From Anthrax , joey Belladonna is the lead singer , but Scott Ian kind of guitar player . He stood out . And then I have Mike Rutherford , from you know , originally from Genesis , but he was not by far the most popular person in Genesis , but Mike and the Mechanics .
Speaker 1I guess , when it's your band what the fuck was that ? Something just fell , yikes . I guess when it's your band , you're going to be the most popular guy in the band . I would think , although Paul Carrick and Paul Young were the lead singers and Paul Carrick is a very , very established singer I mean , he sang with Squeeze Paul Carrick actually sang Squeeze's biggest hit Tempted , tempted by the fruit of another . See , I can sing . I don't know what Big Head Todd was talking about . I can sing . I got my toothbrush , my toothpaste , a flannel for my skin I don't even know what it was Pajamas , a hairbrush , new shoes and a face I add to my reflection . Tell me what is my dead face , tempted by the fruit of another ? See , I don't know what he's talking about . I'm not underrated , no , no , I am the lead singer of Milk Crates and Turntables . Yes , I am . Yeah , that should be a band Milk crates and turntables .
Speaker 1Okay , which one is milk crates and which one is turntables ? Come on , that's funny shit . Come on , two guys , two guys in a band . They call it milk crates and turntables . Imagine that being your nickname . Yo , milk crates and turntables . Imagine that being your nickname . Yo , milk crates . Get over here , hey , hey , milk crates . Go get me a beer , milk crates . Oh that's . That's actually a pretty funny , pretty funny nickname Yo , milk crates .
Speaker 1I might start calling people that , just like you know . Like you know , people make up shit . Like you see someone do something stupid and you're like yo , idiot , right , I'm just going to start calling people milk crates . Yo , milk crate , what are you doing ? You're about as smart as a milk crate . I think I'm onto something here . Feel free to use this . People , this is free material , it's all yours . You got a kid , you got a grandkid . They do something stupid . Say what are you ? Yo , milk crate , what are you doing ? Yeah , I think that's . I'm bringing Milk Crates back , baby . Yeah , just make sure you tell them that you heard it from Milk Crates at Turntables .
Speaker 1Yes , dr Porkchop , I did say this is one of those lost 80s hits . Right here , this is definitely a lost 80s hit , absolute lost 80s hit . It's a great song . You see , this is the shit . You stumble on this one . I go down these rabbit holes , I stumble into this stuff and it's like , oh shit , I forgot about this song . And then you're like , ah , it's like listening to it all over again , it's like new all over again . And that's a great feeling when you find a song and you're like , damn , right , there , miss Christina drives a 944 . David and David .
Speaker 1Satisfaction oozes from the pores . David and David , hold on . This is how you know . It's an 80s song . Right here , right here , right here , yep , yep , yeah . Now it's fentanyl on her dresser . Yeah , yeah , yeah , now it's fentanyl on her dresser . That's not funny , but it is what it is . It is what it is . In the 80s , it was just all cocaine , all cocaine , cocaine , cocaine , cocaine . It was everywhere . It was everywhere , trust me . Now it's unfortunately that fentanyl , and that's that's dangerous .
Speaker 1At least back then you complained that your Coke wasn't , uh , wasn't strong enough because somebody mixed it with , probably , uh , uh , what is it ? Uh , like baby laxatives , which they did , or Manitol . Oh yeah , oh yeah , you got it . You had to get the shit right , either at source or second to source . I don't need to give you a lesson on how you should buy your cocaine . That's not a good not setting a good precedent on this . I'll move on . I'll just move on .
Speaker 1Forget , I even said that it's , even said that it's . I don't know , I don't know . I googled it , to tell you the truth . I googled that , um , that , even up on , even up our noses . Yeah well , yep , yep , so they say so . Like I said , I just googled all that stuff . I'm just trying to trying to get some , some , some coke cred . I'm looking for cocaine cred , cocaine cred . And hey , can it's not treat . I don't want , I don't need street cred , I want cocaine cred . How's that ? That's how I'm rolling , yeah , yeah , uh . So let me see , uh , I'm almost done with this and then , uh , I'm coming up on 90 minutes . It's a good show . Uh see , I really I don't need I don't need .
Speaker 1I don't need jack , I don't . Uh , oh , I think I'm done . Yeah , scott ian and mike rutherford that's that's my list . Uh , so let me run by it , and then I'm going to kind of end this Because Dr Vera just got home a little while ago and I'm going to hang out with her .
Speaker 1The beautiful and ageless . The ageless I have to talk about my wife . She's so , so gorgeous , and I found a picture of her from 2015 . 10 years ago , and she looks exactly the same I . I put these pictures side by side . I'm just madly in love with my wife . That's all there is to it . So if I , I talk about , I abs , I adore my wife , absolutely adore her . She's a wonderful person , but she's ageless . Like , I posted this picture side by side and some say she looks better at 55 than 45 . Like , yeah , yeah , I don't know her . Oh , yeah , I'm going to go hang out with her . She works hard , and so I had dinner ready for her . I make dinner before I go to come into my studio , and she gets off at 7 on thursdays , and by the time she gets home , I had dinner ready for her and uh , uh , yeah , so I'm gonna go hang out with her . Uh , yes , darling , she calls me darling man . Yes , darling man , that's what she says . That's what she calls me , darling man . Uh . So let me see , let me get out my list of band members . More popular than the lead singer Carlos Santana , gene Simmons , pete Townsend , angus Young , dimebag , darryl Alan Parsons , jerry Garcia , eddie Van Halen , richie Blackmore , travis Barker from Blink-182 , eric Clapton in all of his bands , probably Scott Ian from Anthrax and Mike Rutherford from Mike and the Mechanics . Again , that's kind of questionable , but because it's his band , just like Santana or you know , uh , whoever else I named , but yeah , so that's it , that's it , that's my show , that's the show .
Speaker 1That's episode 171 . Good episode , big Head , todd the Wits Rocket Paying for his time . I don't pay him . Don't believe that I don't pay him , he pays me . I don't pay anybody to come on this show . They pay me . Remember that , remember that . So , with all that , yep , what did he say ? Patty Yossi says great show . Thanks for all the info and the laughs . Yep , that's why I do it . This is my church . This is my church . Oh , there he is , the king of Google , mark Flynn . 171 was a good episode . Yes , it was Little gorillas to take me out Gorillas . You got to love gorillas . Go listen to them . Great , great , great , great , great , great band . Yeah , dr Porkchop was on the payroll once before . So was Bubba .
Speaker 1So , as I always say , well , thanks for watching , thanks for listening . If you liked it , share it , subscribe , whatever platform you're on . If you didn't like it , well , whatever platform you're on . If you didn't like it , well , thanks for listening . For where we ? At One hour and 27 minutes , I appreciate that that's a lot of hate listening . If you didn't like the show and you listened for an hour and 27 minutes , that's a lot of hate listening . It's like people that watch the View just to hate it . Why you put yourself through that , I don't know . I don't know , but I'm glad you put yourself through it for this show and all the looniness , whatever it is .
Speaker 1Whatever this show is , week to week it varies , it jumps around , so and as I always say , doing this , doing this show , for you , to quote my favorite artist , Morrissey Let me stop something . Hold , stop the music , stop the music . Let me see . Is this it , let me see ? All right , I'm going to do this again , I'm going to . So , where I get the saying , the pleasure , the privilege is mine , and I did this , I don't know , probably four months ago , five months ago . This is where I get that saying from my man Morrissey , from my man Morrissey . This is when he was with the Smiths .
Speaker 2So let me see , Let me jump ahead a little .
Speaker 1Let me see , let's see , alright , hold on , here we go . Yeah , here we go , here we go , here we go here we go yeah .
Speaker 1That's where it comes from .
Acknowledging Collaborators in Music
Speaker 1And I actually , when I saw him in Madison Square Garden and Blondie backed him up , which is just an amazing show he actually acknowledged it and he said I want to thank Blondie for doing the show with us tonight , with me tonight . And although they thanked me , I have to say to them the pleasure , the privilege was mine and I thought that was the fucking coolest thing , one of the coolest things I ever saw at a concert . That he acknowledged Blondie like that . He quoted the lyrics of one of his songs is one of his most famous , popular , popular songs , famous songs , and he used that as an uh , a compliment to Blondie and they were fantastic that night .
Speaker 1So I thought I would borrow it from my , from my guy , Morrissey . So , everybody , again , thanks for watching , thanks for listening . If you like it , share it . If you didn't , well , thanks for thanks for listening for now 129 , one hour and 29 minutes , and to do doing the show for you , to quote my favorite out of morrissey . As he just said , the pleasure , the privilege is mine and I will be back to church and I hope you come back to church next thursday night at seven o'clock , maybe 7 30 . I'm actually recording a vets connection podcast at 6 30 uh next . So it might be 7 30 next thursday night , but I'll keep you posted , all right , everybody have a great night .
