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Ep. 177 - Back in the Groove

• Scott McLean • Episode 177

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Scott returns to the podcast after taking time off following his brother's death, reconnecting with Jack to discuss music, streaming services, and political commentary from aging rock stars.

• Scott opens up about his brother's passing and how much his brother loved the podcast
• Discussion of the Deftones and their status as an underrated band despite their long career
• Debate about streaming services vs. cable TV and how consumers now have the à la carte options they always wanted but still complain
• Strong disagreement about musicians like Bruce Springsteen and Bono making political statements overseas
• Shared hatred for drum solos at concerts, except when Blue Öyster Cult's drummer wore a Godzilla head
• Concert ticket price nostalgia, remembering shows that cost under $20 in the 1970s and 80s
• Celebrity net worth deep dive, including Bono's Facebook investment making him almost a billionaire
• Breaking news about Heart's vintage instruments being stolen in Atlantic City
• Excitement about upcoming concerts from Jessica Lee Mayfield and Lola Young


Scott:

yeah, well, here we are, episode 176. I am back six.

Scott:

I am back. Yeah, after a hiatus, I'm back. New camera, new mic stand, new everything and I am fucking ready to go. It's been too long. You can't keep a good man down On this episode. Jack's back. Let's see if his audio works. New intro song by Pigs, pigs, pigs, pigs, pigs, Pigs, pigs and the name of the song is GNT. Go download it. This is the fucking just play loud music. This is just the fucking blood pumping music. I'm excited to be back. Jackie boy, hey, can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you, but it's your. Here we go. It's your. It's your laptop mic. No, well, talk closer to your microphone. Hello, well, tap it. I don't know. I don't know. Why are you all red? Did you get beat up? No, it's hot here, fucking hot. What are you going to sunburn?

Jack:

I'm just blushing, I'm shy.

Scott:

Welcome back, buddy.

Jack:

Thank you. Hold on a second. Let me see if I pull the mic just a little bit closer, if that helps. How's that?

Scott:

It's better. I appreciate the effort.

Jack:

I'm here for you.

Scott:

Well.

Jack:

Hello, hello, hello.

Scott:

What's going on oh?

Jack:

a little less. What's that? How's it going to go tonight? How's it going to go? You're going to be Donald J and I'm going to be Elon.

Scott:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we can have a small falling out. We're still friends, we can argue, we can disagree. Did you get you really got sunburned?

Jack:

No, I didn't, you did.

Scott:

I got this new high def camera. I can see everything, Jack.

Jack:

I haven't really been out in the sun. There hasn't been a sun here for a little bit, just a black hole sun.

Scott:

Just a black hole sun. Hey, you like my tattoo.

Jack:

I like it a lot. I think it looks great.

Scott:

Right, right right.

Jack:

It's a lot bigger than I thought it was going to be.

Scott:

No, I only go big buddy.

Jack:

I think it looks great. Thank you, I think it looks great, quite a testament to you, bro.

Scott:

Oh, Mark Smith, Little Marky Smith. He said yo, Jack, you didn't say hi to me, though. What the fuck? What the? We've been off for like two months, and this is what I get. The first comment is Mark Smith, the music relish legend and he says hi to you, as he should. What? No, he shouldn't the fuck. Hold on.

Jack:

Mark, I hope all is well, my friend.

Scott:

Blah, blah, blah, whatever.

Jack:

I'm still waiting for your kid to get me an Oasis ticket, since my friend Scott welched on a bet.

Scott:

Just call me Grape Jelly. Buddy, Just call me Grape Jelly.

Jack:

You are. That's your new nickname Conky Grape.

Scott:

Well, let's get caught up a little bit Again. I don't want this to be a broadcast, but we've been off for a little while because, well, my brother one of the I call them co-producing it drove him crazy. He passed away. He passed away and it really affected me because he was, you know, he meant everything to me and he loved this podcast. He absolutely loved this podcast. Jack not so much, but you can't say anything.

Jack:

Yeah, I can no. We all know that he loved it most. When did it? When did he love it most?

Scott:

when you were on that's right I know only because he liked when I yelled at you, like everybody does. Well, I think they like it better when you bust my balls. So I kind of took some time off and I have a couple of nonprofits veteran nonprofits that I've really been focusing on and those are moving along very well. And so I called Jack, I sent him a text because he never answers my calls and I said hey, that is such bullshit.

Jack:

Oh, no Are you just living in this total world of disinformation.

Scott:

Nope.

Jack:

I always pick up your calls, always, always.

Scott:

Dude, I've been on this. I have been on this, as you know, recently I have been on this Fucking Deftones kick again.

Jack:

They're amazing. Hello, Dave Phillips.

Scott:

Dean Ferrin rocking. Dave Phillips king of the 45s, right? Yeah, I've been on this Deftones kick lately, man, like I used to listen to them all the time and then you know, you kind of fall and then you just rediscover again and you're like, ah, like just so fucking. As I said to the text to you the other day, um, overlooked, you know one of those underrated bands. They've been around for fucking like almost 30 years, 25 years.

Jack:

I don't know how underrated they are. I mean, they just swung through Boston and they were headlined in the garden.

Scott:

Yeah, they headlined down here and the tickets were expensive, so you're right.

Jack:

Yeah.

Scott:

You're right.

Jack:

Of course I'm right.

Scott:

They're just not really. They're a band. That's never. They're not a mainstay. You don't hear them on the radio, whatever radio there is to listen to now. Does anybody listen to Celestial Radio anymore, other than like Sports, talk shows and stuff like that? I don't, no. So what you have is the death of Celestial Radio, now to a bigger extreme. It took a hit when Sirius came on the scene and then XM, and then they merged right, and Celestial Radio took a beating when Howard Stern left, and was that 30 years ago, right, 20-something years ago. So you're seeing that now with cable TV, right, cable TV because of streaming is definitely. It's dying, like there is no return.

Jack:

Yeah, but when is somebody going to corral everybody? When is somebody going to corral everybody? I mean, aren't you tired of nine dollars for hulu? You know twelve dollars for hbo max? Uh, you know, you know twelve dollars for paramount plus. It's ridiculous.

Scott:

We're getting nickeled and dimed to death well, we used to say the same thing about, uh like, direct tv and cable. It's like, why can't we? We always said, why can't it be a la carte? Why can't I pick the channels I want to pick? And they were like no. So now you have that option and people you're not alone People they complain like, oh, they're raising the price. They're raising the price because we're watching. Oh Jesus, there it is the comment. There it is the comment. There it is big head Todd the wet sprocket is back. I love him. I am here entertain me. No, you're just gonna listen. You're gonna listen. I'm gonna try to pay as little attention to you as possible. Big head, Todd the wet sprocket. So now that we get that a la carte just like music, right. People like I don't want to get Todd the Witsprocket. So now that we get that a la carte just like music, right. People are like I don't want to pay for Paramount. I think what the problem is is you pay like Netflix is extremely hot and cold, right.

Jack:

Yeah.

Scott:

April Bernard. I April love April.

Jack:

I love April too. She's awesome.

Scott:

April loves the tattoo Loves the new tattoo. Yeah, yeah, yeah Well love April too.

Scott:

She's awesome. April loves the tattoo, loves the new tattoo. Well, jack, you know, when you have a forearm like a leg of lamb, you really you can't get something small Right. Even the tattoo guy said he goes. I can see that the L kind of curves up over my wrist right and I said, oh, it goes up where he goes. Dude, if I do it any smaller, it's just going to be like a straight line on that arm. I said, okay, blow it up. So now we get it a la carte, just like our music, and people complain. But, like I said, netflix is extremely hot and cold.

Jack:

Yeah, I mean, Netflix is definitely hit or miss. No question about it. I mean, there have been times where I've spent more time searching through Netflix than actually watching something.

Scott:

Well, isn't that cable? Wasn't that the joke five years ago, when you would say I got 250 channels and I only watched three of them? So it's the same thing.

Jack:

Yep, I know what it was for you. Cnn, MSNBC.

Scott:

Are you fucking?

Jack:

You started it not me Wherever the view is on.

Scott:

You started it, not me, buddy. I'm not biting, I'm going to do it. Right now my brother, colin, will be saying fucking Jack, and then he'll call me up and say what the fuck did you have to say that for?

Jack:

Jack's an asshole.

Scott:

I know you're tempted to get another tattoo on your other arm that says righty, no.

Jack:

I'm going to say Jack's an asshole.

Scott:

Plenty of room on that meat hook. Jack's a fucking asshole. That would be even better, jackie.

Jack:

Calabrese.

Scott:

Jackie Calabrese fucking asshole. And there's still room for artwork. On each side, An Italian flag. From 90 Circuit Road in Winthrop, massachusetts, and so then you take a picture of my arm and that's your ID. This is me. You need my information. I'll text it to you. You text a tattoo.

Jack:

Don't you think like the whole streaming of music? I mean, you know what? You and I talked about this the other day when I was driving, when I called you because of my deep love, respect and affection for you. I called you on my way down to work and we actually talked about how, you know, music isn't necessarily curated, but it kind of is. What terrestrial radio did for us was they actually showed us the way right, they fed us, but there was a a sense of community in that where a lot of people were listening to essentially the same things, especially if you go back into the 60s and 70s and now you know to your point.

Jack:

You know that music is a la carte. You know you go to spotify or it, itunes or whatever it is, and there is a lot of music and you have to really go out and search for it. But the cool thing about it is is it has made it accessible for people. They don't have to bow down to the major record labels to actually get music out. Yeah, and this, this is some really, really cool stuff out there.

Scott:

Oh, absolutely Absolutely. I have discovered and I send them to you and tell bro Gretzky, uncle UT, fob, utg, fob, you know, whatever we call him, and I don't know, like, if you guys ever listen to it. Or you know, I don't know if you have time to just pop, okay, it's the middle of the day and I send you this obscure band that I found on Spotify and you're like, yeah, they're good. It's like I'm not listening to yours either. Then you don't listen to mine, I'm not listening to yours, and that's what my friend, charlie Chaz, this is my home studio, Thank you, thank you, of course, got to have the Fenway Park right behind me.

Scott:

Yeah, do you listen to any of that stuff? Like, honestly, honestly, do we waste each other's time? Because what I was going to say is me, jack, and our friend, mark Talent. We send each other music Like if we hear something good and there's either no response or you get fucking doused in gasoline. And then the other one lights the match, the beautiful, hold on. I'm sorry, jack, I'm reading this. The beautiful Tiffany Van Hill watching Lovely, lovely, beautiful young lady. Tiffany van hill, friend of mine, welcome to the show. Go mets charlie. Just see, he fucked it up. He compliments the room, compliments my studio, and then says go mets right, all right, anyway. Jack, you were saying do you listen to this, do you? Just, you know you don't know, no, I video.

Jack:

No, I absolutely do listen to them and and watch them. Don't always get to them right away, right um, you know, try to, but and there's been a couple of times, like there was one that you sent me when we were talking about, like, uh, pub rock, uh, I can't remember the name of the bands.

Scott:

Oh yeah, yeah, it was. I said it was, it was British garage band rock.

Jack:

Yeah, yeah, that was good, though that was good, but you, you sent me a link to the band. Uh, I can't even remember the name of the band. I'm going to have to look it up. Sent you a couple of months before. No, I don't believe that.

Scott:

Yeah, I don't believe it. I know it. That's like I sent you guys. I sent you a video back we're talking probably a year and a half ago, the war on drugs. I sent that video and nothing, and like four months later you're like, hey, check out this video and I'm like is he fucking with me? Is he fucking with me?

Jack:

I have no doubt that you know that type of thing happens.

Scott:

We cross over, though we cross over the same music, Of course, of course, and the group War on Drugs. I swear they were influenced by the Waterboys. I swear they were.

Jack:

Yeah, they have a 70s sound. Deb and I actually went and saw them last year. They were fantastic.

Scott:

Were they yeah.

Jack:

They were amazing. They played with the National. It was fantastic. Ah see, so the band that I sent you, that you sent me back, was the OCs. Yeah, the OCs I sent. Yeah, yeah, and you had sent me back was the OCs.

Scott:

Yeah, the OCs. I said yeah, yeah, and you would send me that prior. Yes, I had. I don't recall that. Is there evidence in those three years of text messages?

Jack:

Is there evidence? I bet you that I could scan back and find it.

Scott:

Oh you're not going to. You won't because you didn't send it number one, I think I did. No no no. So we were talking a couple days ago and we were talking about again what was the conversation about ticket prices. It went in that direction. Oh, so it started with the whole. You know, I sent the text Bono opening his mouth again. Blah, blah, blah. Bruce Springsteen, what is your take? So let's get it out there. What is your honest take on the whole Bruce Springsteen thing?

Jack:

Well, I'm a huge Springsteen fan. I'm still a huge Springsteen fan. I'm still a huge Springsteen fan. So for me, for me, whether it's Sting, whether it's Bono, whether it's Don Henley, whether it's, you know, bruce Springsteen, whether it's Eddie Vedder, any of those guys, I know that they feel compelled to share their viewpoints on politics or the ecology or the environment or homelessness or whatever. I never really subscribe to it. I don't. If I'm going to educate myself, if I'm going to have an opinion on a particular issue, they're not going to be my source material. And the other aspect to it is that I'm in it for the music and I'm just not going to let it spoil. So even when I've seen Pearl Jam and they've gone on, or he's gone on rants or whatever, I don't leave to get a beer or anything like that. I just disregard it.

Scott:

I could care less what they say, even if there's a drum solo.

Jack:

Drum solo. I'm definitely out. Jackie's not a big drum solo fan.

Scott:

That is one of those moments in time in Milk Crate's turntable history. We're talking about best drummers. It was probably like our first year doing this and we're going on like I don't know four years this thing's been going through and you were like drum solos. Fuck the drum solo.

Jack:

Look, we've talked about this before. You know. Like you know, we talk about the mighty Van Halen and them going out on tour every fucking year. They, they played it was always the same thing. You know three or four songs in michael anthony would do his bass, exactly right, and they do a couple more songs, and then alex van halen would do the drum, uh, his drum solo, and then even I know I know this is somewhat sacrilege for some people, but Eddie would do his guitar solo. I mean, collectively, they could have played another eight, ten songs, like nice.

Scott:

No doubt, no doubt. But remember as I always say back in those days no doubt, no doubt. But remember as I always say back in those days, it was nothing but testosterone-driven, you know, like energy at concerts. 80% of the people that were at concerts were guys, young men, right, would you say? That's a good estimate?

Jack:

Yeah, depending upon the band.

Scott:

The bands that we were seeing. Yeah, it was definitely, at least I think, at best an 80 20 mix. All right, I let me let me off just off the top of my head. I'm gonna throw out some names and you give me a ratio. All right, what?

Jack:

are you drinking? Uh, this is um raspberry lime salsa Is that is that alcoholic. No, it's not.

Scott:

Oh, okay, I don't get that shit. I am glad I am not a like a young, fucking young man in this world where, where a drink is like fucking $15 and their drink. Look at, we thought we thought Zima was bad and they fucking topped it with white claw and their white claw gets pushed aside by fucking Seltzer. What the fuck? Truly, the disintegration of the male, the American male, is happening through alcohol. Let's see.

Jack:

Men should be drinking beer and whiskey.

Scott:

Dave Phillips. Dave Phillips, king of the 45s, says drum solos suck, santana, guitar solos suck also. And let me top that off with fuck Santana, you can have all. I give his albums away.

Jack:

I'm telling you, I have never, not once and I've been to a lot of concerts seen a bass drum or guitar solo where I was like, yeah, it's like come on, oh, no, no, no.

Scott:

Uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh, I got one for you Greatest drum solo ever in a concert. It was actually the worst concert I've ever been to, but worst concert I ever been to, but it's worst concert combined. Um, when blue is, the cult sings godzilla and the drummer leans back and all of a sudden leans forward, he's got a godzilla head on. Come on, man, that's fucking great. That was great. He leans back, he does. And all of a sudden he's got this big fucking godzilla head and he's doing a drum solo with the godzilla head on, come on man that was.

Jack:

That was the type of production that we enjoyed back in those days it was you know? No, no, no lasers, no flames or anything like that a big rubber mask that black, that black and blue concert sucked, fucking ass.

Scott:

It was bad.

Jack:

Sabbath wasn't so bad.

Scott:

They were because Ozzy wasn't with them. I saw Dio and I was like oh, I didn't know what I was getting into with that one, I just wanted to see Come on. Look it Okay, and we paid $12 for the tickets. Yeah, so literally you got what you paid for with that concert.

Jack:

We've talked about this before. We were musically uneducated back then because we paid our $12 to see the black and blue Blue Oyster Cult.

Scott:

Yeah, great hype.

Jack:

We were like ugh most of the show and across town for $7, Ray Charles was playing.

Scott:

Right, right, yeah, but that was one of those. Again, you paid $12 to see it, but I really only went to see Don't Fear the Reaper. It's a great live song. Yeah, and they do it for like fucking. They did it for like 10 minutes.

Jack:

Yes.

Scott:

And it was really. I mean, that's just so. I paid 12 bucks to see that. Oh, and I'm burning, I'm burning. I'm burning because of you. That's a great song. Burning for you, no, because of you. Said that to a couple of girls. Burning for you because of you Said that to a couple girls over in the Philippines Get out of here. I did in the Philippines, but that's not right. So wait a minute. So wait a minute.

Jack:

Before you get too far away from it. You have a different opinion on Springsteen and him calling out the Donald.

Scott:

I say you say what you want inside the country, but when you go to another country and you badmouth the president and you badmouth the country and you're there as an entertainer, you're there as an entertainer, okay. That's where you're out of bounds. Don't go outside the family. You can talk all the shit you want in country. That's why a lot of people don't like Bonner. You can talk all the shit you want in country. That's why a lot of people don't like Bonner. You don't even fucking. You weren't born here. I don't know if he's an American citizen.

Jack:

No.

Scott:

So he's got that never-ending green card or the work visa, the work visa, but no, I don't think there is such a thing as in country or out of country.

Jack:

Anymore there is. There is, you know the the media is. So you know global with the, you know web and everything, regardless of where he said that it would have been, you know top story not.

Scott:

If he said it here in in like fucking new jersey he might have. If he did it in Oklahoma he'd get booed. That's why they don't do it here, Because he doesn't want to. He knew over there he could play up to all of that. I don't know, I'm telling you, and that he didn't really get such a great response from what I heard, from what I listened to.

Jack:

But I don't. Do you really think he cares about the response?

Scott:

No, because he's fucking 80 years old. He's got $750 million in the bank.

Jack:

But what does he get out of it? When was the last time Springsteen was in the news?

Scott:

Yeah, exactly, but there's other ways to get into the news. Apparently not, well, there is, but he just decided look, it is him. Denaro and bono. They're fucking old liberals and I don't want to get off into this because this is a music show, nothing worse than an old, fucking liberal. And if you, I'm sorry, if you're listening and I insulted you, but I'm using those three as a, as a, as a, as a wait, wait.

Jack:

You softened your comment. You said there's nothing worse than an old liberal.

Scott:

Yeah, well, old rock star liberal, I'll say that you know, or movie star, or holly whatever, like I don't know if they're trying to be relevant, they're not doing it the right way. But and they don't care about the money. They don't care. Bono doesn't care about the money. Bono doesn't care about the money. Bruce Springsteen doesn't care about the money. He wouldn't have done that fucking 40 years ago because his record company would have hit the fucking roof.

Jack:

But look what happened to the Dixie Chicks.

Scott:

What they care about is relevance, relevance yeah, and they're hanging on to the wrong string. They can be relevant and still put out and not be political in another country, like I said. So I'm not for it. Don't go outside the family, just don't go outside the family. Keep it in-house, say all you want in-house, but it's not a good look when you go to another country.

Jack:

So wait a minute, using your logic, if he had made that statement in New York or Florida or Minnesota or wherever, you would have been okay with it.

Scott:

Well, I wouldn't have liked it, but I wouldn't be upset about it. I'd be like this fucking guy. You know, look at this, like De Niro, here we go again. You know, here we go again. But you go to another country, you go outside the family. You know, it's like you going on another podcast and badmouthing me. That's fucking wrong. I've heard you do that too. It might happen. All those podcasts that you're asked to be on.

Jack:

I might actually badmouth you on a different podcast almost as soon as I finish my drum solo.

Scott:

So, no, not a big fan of that. But again, they don't need the money, so they don't care. At this point, now it's all about. I'm just going to say what I want, because they live in their bubble and they're all. I don't know. What's Bono worth? Has Bono? Has he reached worth a billion dollars yet?

Jack:

I think if he's not, he's really close Right.

Scott:

And Springsteen sold whatever part of his catalog for I don't know what 500 million.

Jack:

Almost as much as you're going to make when you sell this podcast.

Scott:

I would never sell this podcast. Hey, mark Maron. Mark Smith sent me a text the other day. Mark Maron's podcast. It was every Monday for the past 16 years and he finally said he's hanging it up.

Jack:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he said, but he's hanging it up, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he said, but he's Fuckity, fuckity, fuckity, fuck, fuck, fuck. That has made him a household name to a certain extent anyway. I mean, he has been incredibly, incredibly successful and his podcast is really good. He's a very good interviewer.

Scott:

Marc Maron. If you want to see mark maron at his fucking best, comedy wise, on netflix there's a show and it's real, it's actually a really good show. It's called glow glorious ladies of wrestling and it's based on a true story and he plays like one of the guys that runs the whole organization. And I'm telling you, dude, it's, it's, there's great storylines in it. If you've never watched it and you're listening, watch it on netflix. It's called glow, I think. There's two seasons, three seasons, great characters, but mark maron is the fucking anchor to that show, absolutely. And the girl that he plays off she plays off him, he plays off her, plays it perfectly, the perfect chemistry. But Marc Maron at his best is in that show called Glow. So, speaking of Netflix earlier, what do you got? You look like you're reading something.

Jack:

Deborah and I actually went and saw Marc Maron a couple of weeks ago do his stand-up in Portsmouth. He was hilarious. Oh, yeah, just that dry Very good, no, what I was looking at, I was just curious. So, depending upon which site you subscribe to, bono is worth anywhere between $700 and $900 million.

Scott:

Yeah, so you were right. If he's not, he's close.

Jack:

The majority of his wealth coming from.

Scott:

Concerts Facebook. What, oh, he bought stock in Facebook.

Jack:

He bought stock in Facebook very, very early.

Scott:

Since you're on that, what is the net worth of Alanis Morissette? What do you think it is?

Jack:

I bet you it's $65 million.

Scott:

I'd say it's over $100.

Jack:

Nope, at least according to two sources, it's $60 million, really Okay. How about Carly Simon?

Scott:

Carly Simon's net worth is probably about $30 million $80 million. Wow, all those Greatest Hits albums that she puts out $80 million, $80 million. And she made all that off the seven Greatest Hits albums that she put out. That just rearranged songs.

Jack:

It says Scott as of 2024, carly Simon's net worth is estimated around $80 million. This wealth primarily stems from her successful music career, including album sales, concert tours and royalties.

Scott:

Yeah, yeah. Well, yosovane probably made a fucking 60 of that 80. And good for her. Lookit, I love her music. I hope don't get me wrong. I love Carly Simon's music. Carly Simon, as I've said from day one. It always creeps out Mark Smith, greatest mouth in the history of music, right, not today. She looks like I think if her and Steven Tyler was sitting next to each other, you'd think they're twins. It's kind of weird.

Jack:

Scott, what's your middle name?

Scott:

Robert.

Jack:

Just for shits and giggles. I typed in Scott McClain's net worth. Oh, and something came up. It said scott j mclean's net worth is estimated to be at least 3.51 million dollars. He owned shares in companies such as zion's bion corporation national I don't care about scott j.

Scott:

I don't care about him.

Jack:

Yeah, so you know you'll, you'll be on, you'll be on here sooner or later. Well, I mean scott mclean has a moderate moderate. Scott McClain has a moderate net worth, but he's got a lot of hot sauce from his podcast business from sponsorships.

Scott:

All my money comes from sponsorships. I've not gotten one penny from my net worth isn't anything close to yours, Jack. Let's not get into that.

Jack:

Hey, I don't have a pinball machine in my man room.

Scott:

Damn right, you don't. And a life-size Iron man.

Jack:

And a life-size Iron man.

Scott:

And a life-size Hulk and a life-size Spider-Man.

Jack:

Yeah.

Scott:

Yeah, no, you don't.

Jack:

No, I don't.

Scott:

My net worth with just these statues is more than you. Look, I want to pull this up, I want to pull something up here. There we go, let's see. Let's see if this works.

Jack:

Dave Phillips, Chicago at the Heinz in the early 70s fourth row, $4.50 per ticket. My first Aerosmith concert was the Rock Store. It was $6.50. Really, First time.

Scott:

I saw Springsteen it was $13.50,. I want to say Get rid of that. Let's see, I'm going to add something here. I want you to see this.

Jack:

I don't think I paid more than $18 to see Queen.

Scott:

Queens. The more I look at Queens catalog, I don't know what the fucking big hype was. They have fucking eight good songs. All right, here we go, charlie Simon, all right. Rock legends heartbroken over musical instruments stolen in Atlantic City. The rock band Heart is offering a reward for two vintage musical instruments that were reportedly stolen as they prepared to launch their latest tour in Atlantic City. Fucking New Jersey, those fucking people. Guitarist Nancy Wilson claimed in a post on Instagram that the irreplaceable instruments were stolen from their setup prior to their show on May 31st at the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino Now number one. There's a problem here. If you have fucking irreplaceable instruments, if you got that kind of fucking instruments in your heart and you have all that fucking money you don't have like security, like you don't. That doesn't go with your bull crew, with your roadies. Custom-built, one-of-a-kind purple-sparkled baritone telecaster with a hand-painted headstock, crafted specifically for Nancy Wilson. According to her post on Instagram, also taken was a vintage 1966 Gibson EM-50 mandolin that band member Paul Moak has played for over 25 years.

Jack:

Yes, but do you have an update to this story, because they actually arrested somebody.

Scott:

Did they? I don't have the update now.

Jack:

It says Tell me the rest of the story Paul Harvey. At Lee. Atlantic Police say surveillance video initially led them to a 57-year-old Pleasantville man. He was later seen on video walking through various parts of the city trying to sell the instruments instruments and he eventually sold one, while the other remains unaccounted for, police said declining further comment. The man has been charged with burglary and theft. Does mark smith live?

Scott:

I was just gonna say that. Fucking mark smith. Ah man, that's the first person I thought of. Leo haskell, hottest working man in show business, checked in. Mark Smith Ah man, that's the first person I thought of. Leo Haskell, hottest working man in show business, checked in. Yep yeah, mark Smith from the Music Relish podcast. I heard their episode last week. They were talking something about a guitar. I didn't really get it. They were very cryptic. So it's either him or Perry Dedevich. I don't know, lou lives in South Carolina or North Carolina.

Jack:

Yeah, you have to imagine a band like Heart that's been around for a long time.

Scott:

Almost any instrument that they're bringing out on the road is going to be vintage and worth a fortune because of the affiliation with Hart?

Jack:

Yeah, I guess. So yeah, absolutely, wow, all right, good, add on there, scott, that was fantastic what I'm agreeing with you.

Scott:

You want me to say no. What do you want me to say to that?

Jack:

You just had a little Ed McMahon moment.

Scott:

Yes, yeah, you are correct sir.

Jack:

Yes absolutely.

Scott:

Let me see Mark Smith. There he is. He's trying to not be culpable here. Why would she bring irreplaceable guitars on the road?

Jack:

Because Perry Lightfingers Perry.

Scott:

Lightfingers, perry Denovich, the AI Perry.

Jack:

Lightfingers.

Scott:

That's right up there and I got to tell this story. That just reminded me of something. So our friend Phil Kelly, right, El Rey as I call him, he was at church one day and he tells me this story because he's a good Catholic boy and he's at church. He says the guy in front of him has on a pair of loafers with the rubber soles and Phil, like he's standing behind the guy, he's looking like he's trying to get the guy's attention. The guy turns around and Phil very, very lightly says he says nice, crime shoes. And points at the guy's shoes Crime shoes. Because you can't, a 400 pound man can be walking in a pair of those shoes and you're not going to hear him. It was like they made him like that gum rubber. Right, you got a little spring in your bounce in your step, yeah, so that happened. And again, why would they bring that shit on the road?

Jack:

And not have it protected. That's what they do. I mean well, not having it protected, that's a whole other story.

Scott:

Right.

Jack:

That's a whole other story.

Scott:

It's a whole other story.

Jack:

You know what I mean With those backstage areas. There's a lot of people around, there's a lot of hangers-on. I mean, you never know how it happened, but it's not the first time that we've heard anything like this happen. This type of thing happens a bit.

Scott:

I'm trying to find the story that. I guess it's not there. I guess it's not there, not this one. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame concert dates. There's a lot of concert cancellations. Peter Gabriel, not Peter Gabriel. What's his name? Peter Murphy, yeah, peter Murphy has to cancel his shows.

Jack:

He's been having a huge, huge battle with substance.

Scott:

Yeah, even at his age.

Jack:

Yeah.

Scott:

Even as Dave Mason. Same thing.

Jack:

Can you imagine that, being that age and still struggling with you? Know no no, it's just no, I don't I don't, I don't. I don't have the um, I don't have the, the energy for it. I don't even drink like I used to, just because I'm such a pussy. The next morning I just don't like feeling bad. Did we lose Scott? Did somebody steal Scott?

Scott:

So anyway, like I was saying when I was going over to the, I went to that concert. Were you listening to me?

Jack:

Yeah, you disappeared from the screen for a second. No, you disappeared. No, you disappeared.

Scott:

No, no, you disappeared. No, you disappeared, you disappeared. You disappeared when. Yeah, where'd you go?

Jack:

I didn't go anywhere. What?

Scott:

happened? What just happened? What did you do?

Jack:

I don't know I didn't do anything, I'm talking and you disappeared I didn't do nothing.

Scott:

I didn't do it. It wasn't do it, it wasn't me. Okay, it was.

Jack:

Where did you go? Gf2p, it's okay.

Scott:

Big Head, todd the Wet Sprocket, just wasted no time, no time and just jumped right in and said the show just got better when I went off for 10 seconds. I don't think he could have typed any faster.

Jack:

Scott, you and I have different philosophies in terms of, like going to see concerts. Is there anybody out there that's touring not necessarily really right now, but that's still active in terms of touring that you haven't seen, that you would like to see?

Scott:

Yes, and I'm skeptical about going and it's funny you said that and you might have heard me refer to her in the past.

Jack:

Probably Simon.

Scott:

No, no, jessica Lee Mayfield. I love her, but she's in concert with Let me see. It's like this Latin band and I don't know the way they're wording it, and it's at a very small venue in Fort Lauderdale. Let me see the Culture Room. It's in a very small venue in Fort Lauderdale. Let me see the Culture Room. It's in a very small venue. That's where I saw the church with Phil Kelly and it doesn't say if she's on her own doing her own thing or if she's with them. It kind of hints that she's kind of with them, jessica Lee Mayfield. So I'd like to go see her, but with Lucero. Lucero is the. It's at the Culture Room on September 7th, lucero L-U-C-E-R-O with Jessica Lee Mayfield. How do you perceive that? How do you take that?

Jack:

Have you ever heard the band Lucero?

Scott:

No.

Jack:

They're actually really good.

Scott:

Really, they've been around for a while.

Jack:

They've been around for a while.

Scott:

Yeah.

Jack:

Are they opening or is she opening?

Scott:

It just says Lucero, Lucero, Lucero, however you pronounce it, celebrating 20 years of Nobody's Darlings with Jessica Lee Mayfield. So I'm thinking like she's with them, like she's playing with them. I don't know, man. I should just call the venue.

Jack:

Either that or go onto their website. You should be able to get some.

Scott:

I went on hers and it just she has solo stuff but she's not coming around here. And then it just says so that answers the question and why I'm supposed to be on that side. Why are you on my side? There you go. Don't do that to me again. For the listeners on the podcast I just switched our screens because I don't like it does.

Jack:

Why do you care it does? Because I'm the host. Why do you care?

Scott:

Because does because I'm the host. Why do you care? Why? Because I'm the one that controls the controls. I'm the controller of the controls. That's all there is to it. Yeah, that's right. Shake your head, put your hands up, throw your hands up in the air, dance around like you just don't care. That's so funny, that's so. Do you get your window open? Looks like you got a window open over there. Yeah yeah, all that smog. It's like what the fuck.

Jack:

Dude, I live in New Hampshire.

Scott:

There isn't any smog up here. There's smog there. There's liberal smog.

Jack:

In New Hampshire.

Scott:

Oh, I got some inside information on something that's going to try to swing New Hampshire. What is that? I'm not going to tell you on the air.

Jack:

What.

Scott:

Real insider information.

Jack:

Like.

Scott:

I'm just saying, I know people who know things, who know other people.

Jack:

Okay.

Scott:

Who are involved with things. Is that right? That's all I'm going to say. That's all I'm going to say.

Jack:

Yeah, I mean, look, the window is open, there's a chance that you may hear the train going by.

Scott:

I missed the train.

Jack:

You may or you may not hey speaking of. You know what was the name of the woman that you asked?

Scott:

Jessica Lee Mayfield.

Jack:

Jessica Lee Mayfield. I just got tickets to Lola Young.

Scott:

Yeah, you were saying that. Yeah, is she, are you? Are you on her? Is she coming around here at all? That was a long way to say is she coming around here? If you can look, I can tell you in a second. I started and stammered because she's so hot not really, yeah, but she owns it. I give it to the girl. I give it to the girl. I give it to the girl. I like her. I introduced you to her actually, or amused her. No, you didn't. Oh, I did. Oh, I did. I set the video. I can prove it on my text. No, that's not true.

Jack:

I can't, I can't, that's absolutely not true. Yeah, yeah.

Scott:

She. Jack Smith ratting me out. Scott, you disappeared. Come on, man Don't Anyway Wiz, I need Perry.

Jack:

I think the closest she's coming to you is Atlanta. Yeah, I don't want to go there. Fuck Atlanta. She's playing a small venue. In Boston. She's playing the Roadrunner, which is not tiny, but it's not huge either.

Scott:

Right, where is it located?

Jack:

It's right in Boston.

Scott:

Like all right, asshole, we're in Boston. Boston's a good size. There's a lot of places Like what area of?

Jack:

Boston, just going past like Fenway Park, towards like Alston.

Scott:

Okay, all right, yeah, all right.

Jack:

So the place actually believe it or not, even though it's kind of a warehousey club thing, it actually has a bigger capacity than the Orpheum it's 3,500. How long has that place been around? Uh, 2022.

Scott:

That's it, huh, for some reason, I don't know the.

Jack:

Roadrunner is a concert venue in Brighton.

Scott:

Brighton. Yeah, well, you said Austin. It's the same thing really.

Jack:

Yeah, since opening on March 15th 2022. Roadrunner has been the largest general admission concert venue in New England wow, general admission, that's interesting the venue is named after what's the name of the room?

Scott:

jonathan richmond's. Yeah jonathan richmond, you know what I was gonna joke around and say does jonathan richmond own that?

Jack:

he doesn't own it, and I'm gonna say that he does. He doesn't own it.

Scott:

I don't know if he's ever been there and he could not fill it he could not fill it especially, but maybe the guy that posed as him could fill it.

Jack:

Now, maybe if the modern lovers were playing that, that might be.

Scott:

What? What? Roadrunner, roadrunner, going faster by an hour, going faster by an hour? You know a fucking great song? That's a King of Facebook song. Right there, that was like an opening to the King of Facebook. That's a song. Right there, roadrunner, roadrunner, let me see. Let's get one more article and then I'll let you go. The beautiful Dr Vera just got home a little while ago and well, she's prettier to look at than you are. I have surviving members of an iconic 70s rock band return with new music video. Let's see what this mess is about.

Jack:

So talking heads, I don't know, let's see.

Scott:

Let's see what this mess is about. So talking heads? I don't know, let's see. Let's see what it is. I'm going to pull it up on the screen Over here. Media let's see what we got.

Jack:

I bet it was the talking heads.

Scott:

You think? No, I don't think so. They will never get back together again. Alice Cooper and surviving bandmate guitarist Michael Bruce, bassist Dennis Dunaway and drummer Neil Smith dropped a new music video for the single Wild Ones oh boy. Inspired by the iconic 1953 film the Wild Ones starring Marlon Brando, the track captures the same defiant spirit that once shocked middle America and defined a generation that's not so far off. Alice Cooper was a they were a defining band in the 70s.

Jack:

But, in my defense, announced today there was a big tease by the talking heads, and this article says. However, fans were left a little gutted. After all that teasing, it was finally revealed that the group were releasing a music video. They are, they are.

Scott:

Tina Weymouth and David Byrne are going to get along, or are they doing it for the money?

Jack:

And Jerry Harrison, who started out playing in what band?

Scott:

Jerry Harrison started out playing in. I'm not sure.

Jack:

You were just playing them.

Scott:

Oh, the Modern Lovers.

Jack:

He was in the Modern Lovers, all right. Well, let's do this.

Scott:

I don't know if you two won't, let me do it. The Modern Lovers he was in the Modern Lovers.

Jack:

All right Well let's do this.

Scott:

I don't know. If YouTube won't let me do it, They'll give me a strike if I play the video. The Alice Cooper Group was formed in the early 1960s. Yada, yada, yada, so I don't know. That means they're probably going to go on tour.

Jack:

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Scott:

Would you go see Alice Cooper?

Jack:

Sure.

Scott:

Really.

Jack:

Yeah, but you know what it's like you and I were talking about the other day. It depends. It depends where, it depends how much you know. Like if they were playing down in Boston somewhere and the tickets were reasonable and it was a Wednesday night, I'd go.

Scott:

No, no, no, I don't know. Just go see the Hollywood Vampires. I would see them too. I would see the Hollywood Vampires, just because it's a good combination of people. And I like Johnny Depp. As crazy as he is, I like Johnny Depp. I love how. You know what I love about that and you see this like when. What's his name? The dude that played Forrest Gump, the actor, you know his name, the guy that played Forrest Gump.

Jack:

Tom Hanks no.

Scott:

No.

Jack:

The guy that played Forrest Gump, tom Hanks no, billy Bob Thornton.

Scott:

No, not Forrest Gump, I'm sorry. Sling Blade, carl, I like them. French fry potatoes, they got. They get these bands and like Johnny Depp goes like way overboard with the fucking. The band Dan is like they really dress rock, like rock star stuff and I'm like a little overkill but okay, like that shit was good in like the 80s, but they love it, they have fun you know, hold on to it.

Jack:

They hold on to the.

Scott:

They're trying to stay relevant evidently, johnny Depp isn't a bad guitarist either.

Jack:

No, he's a pretty good. He knows what he's doing, he can play.

Scott:

Well, you're out on the road with Keith Richards and a few other band members that come and go. Hey, you're going to learn something. Absolutely. You better fucking learn something. Hey, how do you feel about Aaron Rodgers Going to?

Jack:

Pittsburgh. Good luck, absolutely Definitely you better, you better fucking learn something. So hey, how?

Scott:

do you feel about Aaron Rodgers going to Pittsburgh? Good luck, good fucking luck. Good what's he? Do you know what?

Jack:

Terry.

Scott:

Bradshaw said Get rid of him. What are you wasting your time on that guy? For he's a loser, like he ripped him. He ripped him, he goes. What are you doing? You got this guy who's bounced around. He's a flake, he's a lunatic, he's all the conspiracy, blah, blah. Terry Bradshaw ripped him up, man, yeah, hey, what's he going to do there? Right, nothing for one year. It's going to be a big year for the Patriots, though. I'll tell you what you think. So it's gonna be a big year for the Patriots, though I'll tell you what. This is an exciting team, yes, yes, drake May and Josh McDaniels coming back. He's got Tom Brady all over again. He gets to mold this kid, although Tom Brady was molded by Charlie Weiss, but Josh McDaniel also won three Super Bowls with them too. So you know, um and Drake May, he's the real deal. So, oh, what just happened? How'd my camera move? See that, let me see. Let me see. Does it do this? Let me see something. Ah, look at that, see.

Jack:

Look at you Extreme close-up.

Scott:

Yeah, I am a handsome bastard, look at me, yeah, you are At 61,. I'm still a handsome motherfucker.

Jack:

You're a beautiful man.

Scott:

I don't know, I can't keep this. I don't know how to make it go backwards.

Jack:

Go back like this Imagine how sexy you'd look if you were wearing a bandana.

Scott:

I'm sexy and I know it. All right, look my camera's losing control. Let's call this a night, buddy. We're coming up on an hour, jack, you know I love you, buddy. I thank you for all your support during. Look at my fucking camera. Come on, what's going on? What the hell's going on here? Mark Smith, liverpool won the Premier League this year. Perry Dinovich, perry Lightfingers. Perry Lightfingers commented in Alice Cooper, probably at the Sphere in Vegas.

Jack:

You know who Deb and I are waiting to see at the Sphere. This is my prediction at some point. Radiohead, oh okay, oh yeah, you don't give a shit. No, no, no, that would be great.

Scott:

Let me know I'll be the third wheel in that party.

Jack:

All right.

Scott:

I'll go to Vegas. I got friends in Vegas you got friends everywhere.

Jack:

I do everywhere.

Scott:

I do, I do and Jefferson Orama says Johnny Depp is great. He is, he is. When I first retired in 2019, that fucking Amber Heard Johnny Depp trial that was my entertainment for like three months. It was fucking great. It was great. My camera's all fucking crazy now. All right, let's wrap this up Like I was saying I was getting all it's moving. Jackie boy, I love you again. Thank you for all your support during my tough times and thanks for coming back on the show. Maybe we'll have you back next week if you're around.

Jack:

I'm going to be in Newport next week.

Scott:

All right. Well, I'm going to be doing music news next week. This fucking camera is driving me crazy.

Jack:

Good, night everybody.

Scott:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, everybody, like I said, thank you for watching, Thanks for listening. If you liked it, share it. If you didn't. Well, thanks for watching for 58 minutes and listening for 58 minutes and 40 seconds. Now, like I say, you are the engine that runs this machine. This camera's driving me crazy. It's on its own auto thing. It's like motion sensor kicked in. And like I always say, to quote my favorite artist, Morrissey, doing this show for you, the pleasure, the privilege is mine. I got to go way down here and follow you and I will be back next week. Jack won't, but Jack will maybe be back in a couple weeks. So, all right, buddy, I'll talk to you soon.

Jack:

Be good.

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