Ep. 186 - What happens when nostalgia meets new tours and old grudges?

We trace a wild line from hip‑hop sampling and 70s rock hooks to a brand‑new supergroup, a fiery takedown of residency culture, a riff‑detective dive into Paranoid, and the unsung glue of Michael Anthony. We end on boomer one‑hit wonders and why some intros outlive the songs.

• sampling’s craft and the 70s sources it elevates
• Howl Owl Howl’s lineup, chemistry, and tour dates
• the Vegas residency economy and thin setlists
• Motley Crüe’s nostalgia, Dolly feature, and fan expectations
• Paranoid vs Half‑Life: riff similarity and influence
• Eddie Van Halen’s remarks vs Michael Anthony’s real impact
• why harmonies shape the Van Halen sound
• boomer one‑hit wonders and the power of intros

Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. If you liked it, share it. If you didn’t like it, well, thanks for watching and listening for an hour and 12 minutes. You are the engine that runs this machine. Doing a show for you—the pleasure, the privilege is mine, and I’ll be back next week.

Chapters

• 0:00 Cold Open, Samples, and 80s Roots
• 5:20 Hip-Hop Sampling: From Third Bass to EPMD
• 9:30 Listener Chat and Host Banter
• 12:40 New Supergroup: Howl Owl Howl
• 22:30 Residency Rants: Motley Crüe in Vegas
• 39:40 Setlists, Backing Tracks, and Band Politics
• 52:30 Did Sabbath Lift Paranoid’s Riff?
• 1:03:00 Eddie vs. Michael Anthony: Legacy and Ego
• 1:12:00 One-Hit Wonders Only Boomers Know

Transcript

Scott: 0:18

What's up, everybody? Yeah. That's right. That's right. Get used to it. It's only temporary. It's the beginning of the show. This is not my music for YouTube. This is third base. Words of wisdom. Yeah, from I think about certain night followers. Yeah, 1990. Some white boys. The white boys got rhythm. Some of us do. Unlike a lot of you listeners. And that's okay. It's never too late to find the rhythm. Never too late to find the rhythm. Yeah. So uh no Jack tonight. I haven't even talked to Jack this week. I don't care. I don't care. Good evening, Patty. How are you? Good, good, good, good, good. Alright, alright. You know, a lot of these hip hop songs in the started in the 90s, even up to today. So let me uh so this is was it uh uh Gary Wright. Um yeah, you know the song. I don't know, I don't know why I'm drawing a blank right now. Probably because I don't have enough turbo, extra turbo, ice coffee going. So um, a lot of these hip-hop songs, listen to this one came out in uh about 87. 87 right here. And and so we had that 70s hit that was sampled by Third Bass, and we got this one. Right? Right EPMD, strictly business. From 1987. So they they knew what they were sampling, they knew what they were doing. Try to institute the master or the M2 back. They know a good song when they hear one, these hip-hop dudes. They were young dudes too. And then there's uh there's this one. Let's see. Uh, here we go. This is a this is a good sample coming up right here. Let me get a little volume on this. Here we go, you ready? This is a good uh sample for a hip hop song you never thought you'd hear. But Naz is dead.

Speaker 02: 3:26

Had to flip this track in y'all Jim Harris, all the way king of the villages, Jim Harris.

Scott: 3:41

I know a lot of you people are like, uh, I don't even hear that. Well, I do, at least at the beginning of the show. I'm just saying, I'm just saying. They know good songs when they hear and they know how to sample it, and these people got paid. I and Butterfly got paid, I'm sure. Who wrote I Shot the Sheriff? Was it Bob Marley? He got paid, Gary Wrights. I don't even I don't even know if he's still alive. It's a stake up, I'm sure they got paid eventually for it, but that's always been the thing, right? With sampling. So, yeah, no Jack tonight, and that's okay. That's okay. Like I said, haven't turned and heard from him all week, so I will assume I don't go chasing him. No, not gonna do it. Not gonna do it. Patty says she likes a lot of hip-hop. There you go. It's good stuff. It's the white men, Patty. That's the bottom line. It's the white men. Mostly. White men have a thing against hip-hop. A lot of them do. Not gonna say all of them. Me. I'm good with it. Always been good with it, been good with it since about 1982, as a matter of fact. So, uh, but that's a whole nother show that I'll never do. So, yeah, so what do we got today? Uh I got some more articles, reaction articles. Let me pull up something right here. This is this I saw this headline. Let's see what we got. Let's see what this article consists of. Get rid of that one. Let me bring this over here. Let me set this up. Screen. There we go. Darius Rutgers, you know, from Hootie and the Blowfish, and some very successful country career. Still going. New supergroup with members of REM and Black Crows announced the tour. So this is this is kind of a Joe Perry project thing, right? Joe Perry project. He got the lead singer from the Black Crows, he got the bass player from Stone Temple Pilots, he got uh Brad Whitford from Aerosmith, and uh they were supposed to have the drummer from Stone Temple Pilots, but he had a family emergency. So they brought in his old Joe Perry's old drummer that played with the Joe Perry project for a long time. Uh Howl Owl Howl features Rucker on vocals, Mike Mills on bass, and Steve Gorman on drums. So is this like a they're dropping their debut single on Halloween? So this isn't this isn't well, they they made an album, evidently. At least they recorded a song together. So let's see what they have to say about this. Hootie and the Blowfish frontman, Darius Rucker, which I wonder if he I mean, he's had a pretty successful solo career. And the solo career, I believe, like Morrissey with the Smiths, has lasted longer than Hootie and the Blowfish, if I'm not mistaken here, but he's still the uh Hootie and the Blowfish frontman, referred to as former super uh, has formed a super group, Howl Owl Howl, with RM bassist Mike Mills, co-founding former drummer of the Black Crows, Steve Gorman, former drummer of the Black Crows. Co-founding former, okay, Steve Gorman. Uh their debut track, My Cologne, arrives October 31st, and they're kicking off an inaugural tour that I won't be going to. Um November 3rd at the Vogue in Indianapolis, Indiana. Feels great to be singing with the rock band again, Rucker says in a statement. Uh, it's like buddies getting together, also getting to play with your idols. The stuff we're writing is so different than anything I've tried to do before. Uh, Mills shed Ruckers excitement. You never can complain. Uh you can never explain band chemistry, he says. We all like each other and we all admire each other musically. All those things come together as if it weren't fun, we wouldn't be doing it. And if it weren't fun, we wouldn't be doing it. According to a press release, the group's music fuses organic roots rock, whatever that is, blues, organic roots rock, with an open-minded alternative flair matching a fluid, feel-oriented rhythm section to the barrel-chested vocal rasp of an iconic front man. That's a lot of big words to describe. A three number one, a three-man band, number two, a three-man band that just got together, pretty much. I don't know, this organic roots, rock, open-minded alternative flair, matching a fluid feel-oriented rhythm section. What's the rhythm section? You got a bass player and a drummer and a lead guitarist that sings. I don't know. The group started with informal jam sessions back in 2021. Okay, but it remained a secret until Rucker discussed it with Rolling Stones, Brian Hyatt last summer. You can call it a super group if you want. I don't call it a super group. Uh, but I think people will really be surprised at how good it is. I'll keep an open mind with this. I like Darius Rucker. I liked REM. I like the Black Crows. So, you know, but we're just a band, we're friends, and we jammed together one day at Steve's kids' school with Nashville session player Don Bukovic playing guitar, and we were like, let's go in the studio and see what happens. It's nice to have all that money where you can just do that, huh? And we went to the studio, and to be honest with you, magic happened, and then I just can't wait for the record to get out. Uh, there's still no word on when the album will hit, but they'll definitely be playing songs from it on their tour. Their sets will mix Howl, Owl, Howl Origins with songs by REM, the Black Crows, and Hootie and the Blowfish, naturally. That's what the Joe Perry project did. Uh, there's no single guarantee, uh, Gorman said in a statement. We're finally going to get to plug-in and let it rip a little bit. Rucker is no stranger to the REM catalog. Hootie and the Blowfish have played Losing My Religion at most of their concerts over the past two decades. They've also played Don't Go Back to Rockville, and it's the end of the world as we know it. And a handful of times they've also done She Talks to Angels by the Black Crows. Hootie and the Blowfish played a special show at the Grand Walia Resort in Maui, Hawaii on February 26th. But they've been off the road since last year and likely won't be touring again anytime soon. Okay. It would be five more, five or more years if we ever do it again, he told Rolling Stone in the middle of the 2024 tour. I was surprised I agreed to this tour because I mean, for me, it's just like I'm going backwards. You know, as an artist, sometimes you don't want to go backwards. So here are the dates if you're interested, if you're out there in any of these locations, howl, owl, howls. Tour dates. November 3rd in Indianapolis, Indiana at The Vogue. November 4th, Chicago, Illinois at Metro Chicago. November 6th, Washington, D.C. at the 9 30 Club. November 7th, Asbury Park, New Jersey, the Stone Pony. November 8th, Boston Mass at the Paradise Rock Club. The Paradise Still Going. Music Hall. November 11th, New York, New York, uh, Webster Hall. November 12th, Philadelphia Union Transfer. Uh November 14th, Athens, Georgia, Georgia Theater. And November 15th, Atlanta, Georgia at the Variety Playhouse. I am sure that they will add more dates to that as they go. Let me see what's in the chat. I'll come in. I'm gonna have this on my shoe. Let's see. Uh big head. Todd the wet sprockman. I'm Todd the wet sprockman. The wet sprockman. Uh let me see. I'm I'm here at the tamey, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Uh Patty says Dave loves him. Dave Phillips, king of the 45s. Hello, Scott. Yep, he does like Hootie and the Blowfish. But he likes, what is it? Um, what's the name? Matchbox 20. I I don't get that. Dave Phillips like fucking raves about Matchbox 20. They're so middle of the road. They're just such an average band. I don't know. We'll never agree on that, King of the 45s. Uh let me see. What else? Uh, that's it for the right now. All right. Let's move on to the next. Let's see what we got for the next article here. Like I said, I just picked these out. Ah. Oh, Jesus Christ. Oh, Jesus. I saw this one. I was like, oh, this is gonna be great. Uh, I can go over here. Get rid of that. This one. There we go. After health and legal issues, Motley Crue kick starts itself in Las Vegas. Ah, again. Have you seen any of these videos of Vince Neal singing? I mean, if you got Vince Neal and David Lee Roth on the stage together, I'd rather watch Yoko Ono. To be honest with you. I would rather watch Yoko Ono scream and screech and wail than see David Lee Roth on his whatever that fucking tour is and Vince Neal and whatever that fucking, he doesn't even say, at least David Lee Roth will try to pronounce some words. Vince Neal just doesn't do it. He just goes, like he doesn't even just make noise. Go watch the videos. It's not AI either. Come on, kick stop my heart. That's all he says. And people are like, yeah, man. Yeah, man. Vince Neal, man. Yeah, dude, Vince Neal. Yeah, whatever. All right, here we go. Um after being sidelined for much of the year, Motley Crewe has returned to action with a new residency in Las Vegas in a fresh compilation album. Oh, a compilation album. Oh, that includes a guest appearance by Dolly Parton. What the fuck? If the this is absolute old man fucking band selling out. Jesus Christ. Excuse me. Excuse me. I don't care about the mic right now. The group's Nikki Six tells us all about all that and more. After an unexpected pause this year, really, Molly Crew has kick-started its art. Oh, that's bad. And art this month in Las Vegas. You might remember that the glammy veteran hard rock act from Los Angeles did say farewell when it's 17-month the final tour wrapped up on New Year's Eve in 2015 in its hometown, right? These guys just fucking. But seven years later, it was back playing stadiums, and recently it began its third residence in Las Vegas with 10 dates booked through October 3rd, and people will pay to see this shit. Like I saw them back around 2002 on their first comeback tour. So think of that. And it was the opening show. It was in Fort Lauderdale at the arena there with a Florida Panthers play, whatever it was called back then. It was back then, it was something else. It's changed names seven times since. But uh they were good. They were actually good. Mick Mars was with them. Everything was good. They put on a great show, but that was 2002. Ah, here we go. Uh, as frontman Vince Neil explained last year, the 2019 Netflix biopic, The Dirt. That's exactly what he said. That's how he said it, too. Anyway. I got us so many new fans. The dirt got us so many new fans. Oh, a whole new generation of fans that hadn't seen Motley Crew. Well, they don't know what they missed because what they're seeing now isn't that. That brought us back to want to play again and keep making new music. That in turn led to the 2024 EP Canceled, which featured the new title track and Dogs of War, uh, while the compilation album from the beginning, for which Dolly Parton added fresh vocals to the 40-year-old hit Home Sweet Home, came out in conjunction with the New Vegas Residency. What is that? I don't even know what I just read. The EP canceled, which featured the new title track and Dogs of War, while the compilation album from the beginning, I don't know who who the fuck writes this shit. But it wouldn't be Motley without some drama, and there's been no shortage of that during the past two years. Original guitarist McMas, supposed retirement from touring in 2022, replaced by John Five, Rob Zombie, Marilyn Manson, David Lura, great guitarist. John Five's a great fucking guitarist, has turned into still pending lawsuits between him and the band. And prior to the current residency, Neil told the Las Vegas Review Journal that he suffered a stroke last December 26th. He sings like he suffered a stroke. He sings like he suffered a stroke. That's that explains it. I'm not laughing at the guy. That stroke is horrible. That's terrible. I'm just saying he sings like he had a stroke. That's that's all I'm saying. It's horrible that he had a stroke. I don't want to be that guy. Not making fun of that, but he sings like he had a stroke. He had to go rehabilitation to walk and sing again. Well, one of the rehabs worked. One of them didn't. Could not have had a better setup for that. Could not have had. And again, I don't read these things. That's a great fucking setup. That was a good come full circle, I should say, moment. And to go rehab to walk and sing again. Okay. All right. That forced the band to postpone the residency originally scheduled for spring. And to sit out July back to the beginning of Well, concert for Ozzie Osborne and Black Sabbath. Thank God he sat that out. Ozzy had Parkinson's. Ozzy had like, you know, he had nerve damage. He couldn't move. He's sitting in a giant black throne from hell. He's got like all he's still got like things going on with his brain, and he sang better than fucking Vince Neal. God bless Ozzy. So it hasn't exactly been the same old situation for Motley Crue, but the band is back to shouting at the devil. No, no, not shouting, screeching and being. Yeah, and the in the group's Nikki Six, and the group's Nikki Six sounded like a regular Dr. Filgun. What the who wrote this shit when he checked in just before the Vegas run? Motley spent 2022 and 2023 back on tour with Def Leopard and On Your Own and a lot of it in stadiums. What appeals what appeals Oh, so this is a question. What appeals to you about sitting down in one place for a residency like this? Six, when you do these types of shows, there's a lot of things you can do that you can't do or is not easy to do with touring. There's a lot of lighting things that we can do, blah, blah, blah. That's exciting, really exciting. It's wide open again in this place. Okay. Alright. You're playing 13 songs at these shows, including a medley of covers. How do you go about making they're only singing 13 songs? That's it? 13 songs? What the fuck? Like even if I like Motley Crue, I'm not gonna pay all that money to see them sing just 13 songs. You gotta think, each song is on average, is on average two and a half minutes to three minutes. Right? I'll even be generous and say three minutes. Ten songs is 30 minutes. Right? Okay, let's get some little gaps in between.

Speaker 01: 22:23

It's Neil talking to the crowd.

Scott: 22:27

A couple minutes here and there. So let me see. That's 30. So we'll stretch it to 40. 40 minutes? Say 40 minutes, and then you add those extra nine minutes on for the songs. 49 minutes, add a little extra. This show is like it's about an hour. I that's what it seems like to me. Even if it's an hour and 15 minutes, like how do you stretch 13 songs into I mean a concert usually at least, at least minimal 90 minutes. At least all the shows I go to. They only play in 13 songs. Uh, let me see. I talked to Nick Nikki Six says, I've talked to a lot of my friends and my peers and successful bands, and we all get in get in an interesting place. They want us to play about 90 minutes, all right. And there's a contract that says that, and there's a lot of reasons for that that fans don't understand. So it has to be very this is our set. This is fucking lazy, is what this is. This is absolutely lazy. That's his that's the cover up for we're just too fucking lazy. And when you have a large catalog like we do, there are the there are these songs you have to play because they mean so much to people. We understand that there's there are those certain fans who only want deep tracks. In other words, this is going to be an oldie show. Uh, and there's certain fans who just come to hear the hits and have more uh and have a good time, and we try to balance it out. It's a challenge. I know with some of my favorite bands, I'll go and be like, what song are you playing? I don't even know what song that is. And they're like, This isn't something from 1964. I'm like, okay, I was four years old. I don't know that song. But okay, asshole. Now he's just a fucking asshole. If you're going to see a band in concert and you supposedly like them, you should probably have a good idea of their catalog. You should probably have a good idea. Don't say, oh, I was four years old when that song came up. So, in other words, you never listened to anything other than what, from their fifth album on, like you never went back and listened. That makes zero fucking sense to me. This guy's just fucking lazy. And there is, there is something out there. There is a conspiracy theory out there that says that Nikki Six doesn't, Mick Mars, the the the former guitarist and one of the founders of the band, uh, the one that they're they're going to court with, he came out in a deposition and said that fucking Nikki Six doesn't really play the bass all the time. That it's a backing track. So I I Mick Mars wouldn't make that. He's not that kind of dude. Like he just came out and said, I'm just telling you, the guy play has a backing track for his bass. So he's not always playing bass. Maybe, maybe, okay, I'm onto something here. I'm onto something here. Maybe, just maybe, Nikki Six can play the bass for real, and Vince Neal will lip sync. Yeah, that's the idea. That's the idea. Just fucking lip sync. That's better. That's so much better. I should be their manager. But let me say, I was for you on, so I don't know that song. Then they play their big hit and you're excited. So we get it. It's not frustrating, but it's a challenge. No, it's fucking lazy. What kind of requests do you get that surprise you? Uh, well, quote, some people are like, Man, I wish you'd play Stick to Your Guns. And I'm like, how do you even know what that is? That was a demo that ended up on the first version of Too Fast for Love. And when we signed with Electra, they were like, look, you need to lose a song because it's affecting the sound of the vinyl. So Stick to Your Guns didn't end up mocking that record. And fans will come up asking for it, and I'm like, what do we take out? Kickstop my hot. So this guy doesn't, he's fucking tone deaf. He doesn't get it. See, that dude that was talking to him is the polar opposite of what this douchebag is. This dude knows the catalog. This dude that said that to him, he should be giving the dude credit. But instead he's mocking, oh, what should we do? Kick out, kick stop my hot. Yeah, well, fucking why not? Right? You're just doing a fucking oldie song. You're doing a greatest hits. Oh, these dudes just you know what? What is it about these fucking bands and actors and and all that? As they get older, they just get fucking douchey. They just fucking get douchey. You know? I don't fucking get that. Just be a fucking everybody should be Keanu Reeves. That's it. Everybody should be Tom Hardy. Like those dudes get it. Right? Fucking no. Oh, this dude like knows a song in their catalog that didn't even make it to the end. And he's like, what am I supposed to do? Shut the f I fucking hate this article already. But I committed to it, so I'm gonna finish it. Fucking this is just gonna make me more angry as we go. Uh, what would be your choice for a deep cut from the Motley catalog? Oh, I can't wait for this. How about the fucking deep cut that the kid asked him to play? Too fast for love. How about that, douchebag? No. No. Let me see. Uh one of my favorite songs to play, and we haven't played it in a while, is Piece of Your Action from Too Fast for Love. Well, Stick to Your Guns was the song that the kid was talking about. Uh, I love Knock Em Dead Kid 2. There's some really interesting, cool songs we've talked about. Like from Generation Swine. There's a song called A Rat Like Me. How about a douchebag like me? And the song Generation Swine. Uh, those are songs, uh, those are songs that haven't seen the light of day in years. When that album came out, it didn't get rave reviews because we used a lot of technology and we're experimenting, and now for some reason it's become a fan favorite. Jesus. There have been quite a few Motley compilations over the years. Yeah, Motley. What was the impetus for from the beginning? Well, I would think Nikki Six would probably respond. They they probably didn't put this in the answer. What does impetus mean? I'm not impetus. I can still have sex. Impetus? What do you mean by impetus? Well, okay. I'm sure that I'm sure they cut that out of the answer. That's that's my theory. Uh he says one of the reasons we sold our catalog to P and to BMG is they have such a great track record, and in spending a lot of time with them, we knew they were going to treat our catalog correctly. They fucking rehash the songs and they resell them. What do you what do you mean, treat my catalog correctly? They rehash the songs, they resell them. They sell them to advertisers, they sell them to movies, because they have the rights to them now, asshole. I mean. And they have. So this from the beginning is something they felt was a really nice way to introduce younger fans without really being like, this is the greatest hits. It isn't a greatest hits record. No, but your fucking show is, even though it's loaded with hits. Okay. All right, let's let's reread this, people. Let's reread this. Something they felt was really, really, really nice way to introduce younger fans without really being like, this is a greatest hits album. It isn't a greatest hits record, even though it's loaded with hits. Am I I know I'm not the only one that sees the idiocy in this. I know I'm not. This dude is as fucking bright as a 10-watt bulb. It's not a great hits album, but it's loaded with hits. Isn't that a fucking greatest hits album? It's got a really cool, it's got a lot of really cool tracks on it, and I'm excited about it, man. It's the same fucking greatest hits album that you put out 17 years ago. And then fucking eight years ago. And now it's again. But it's important that you keep new fans interested in the band and for them to go like, wow, I didn't know that this was a Motley Cruz song. Well, well, if they go and they buy the album or they buy the CD, excuse me, or they listen to it on Spotify, that's one thing. Then they're gonna go see Motley Crue in concert and say, Oh, I thought Motley Crue sang this song. Because it's gonna be horrible. Or oh my God. They spelled this O-M-I-G-O-D. What the fuck is that? Oh my god. I love that song. Like, worst article ever. Worst fucking article ever. For a band that's been around, God, G-A-W-D, God, 43 years or something, you're always looking at a way uh to kind of not throw a pun at you, but to kind of kick start a new generation of people and keep the band's name out there and educate the new fans as they come along. Educate! Educate! Fucking what the fuck is Martley Crue educating? What could they possibly say we're educating new fans on? What, how to be fucking lazy and douchey in a fucking asshole? And fucking tone deaf? And douchey? Oh, this is gonna be good. Did you invite Dolly to sing Home Sweet Home during your residency? She's got one of her own coming up in Las Vegas later this year. You know, here he goes. Fucking Nikki Einstein, you know, and they did Y apostrophe K N O W. You know, we got to know Dolly and we talked a lot, and she would tell me stories. She's just a wonderful, wonderful woman. Douche. This fucking douche. She loves that song, and her husband loved that song. So I might have done a little nudge, nudge, nudge, like, quote, hey, would you have a little ratty tattooed guy with black hair maybe come on stage with you? I'm nudging, I'm pushing, I'm hunting, I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but why not ask? This is fucking but oh my god, I'm I can't. This is the danger, people. This is the fucking danger. This is the danger of not reading an article before you read it live. Because this thing would have been fucking deleted. There's more. I need some ice coffee. Hold on. Yeah, that's really what I need to get me fight. Oh, I'm fucking I'm clicking here. Am I too loud? I gotta turn down my gain here. I don't know, I'm just getting excited. I'm irritated. Okay. Wait, there's more. Motley released a couple of brand new songs last year. Will there be one more coming? That was a lot of fun. But we're kind of in this not in a rush mode. No, please. Please do us a favor. Don't be in a rush. Please. In the old days, the treadmill was you do an album, then you go on the road for two years, then you write another album, and you go back out on the road, and then you come home and you're immediately into writing and then into recording studio, and then they put you back on the road. That's a real burn. But when you're younger and you don't have family and you're getting to live your dreams, you do it. Yeah, it's fucking life of a rock star. People warn you about that. But spending too much time on the road doesn't make for me anymore because I have a family. I spent Christmases in hotels, yeah, shooting heroin. Merry Christmas. Yeah, speedballing, snorting coke. Merry Christmas. Uh along, maybe meet the band at the bar for a drink and a drumstick to feel like it was a holiday. Uh that's not what I want to do anymore. Is the creative drive different now? I'm glad this is this is the last question. I think. I think. Uh we only work on music when something inspiring comes along. So we're not on a schedule, and I don't find full-length albums inspirational anymore. With the way people consume music now, you can spend so much of your time and your life and your passion to do 11, 12, 15 songs and only have one or two really cut through. So we would rather do two or three to get them out, and then we feel inspired to do another three or four. That's kind of the path we're on now. Just feels natural. Yeah. In other words, they lost their fucking desire. They just want to make money now. Uh, were you guys sorry to have to miss the backup, uh, the back to the beginning show in July? It was something we were unable to do because Neil's health issue. Uh, we had to reschedule our residency. It was something we couldn't do even if we wanted to. I did watch it and I thought it was great, and everybody showed up because they loved him and supported him. But man, I gotta tell you, I'm like, go, Ozzy. Way to fucking go without a band, man. He really did it. You you we he had a band? What do you mean without a band? He had a fucking band. Oh, we don't have him anymore. No shit, Sherlock. But one of the greatest rock stars of all times came while we were here on this planet and went back to the fucking stars, man. He's like, I came down there, I kicked some fucking ass. You can't. Oh, there's this dude. Oh, there's more. I think there's one more. Okay. A lot of Motley's reputation was established during your tour opening for Aussie back in 1984, too. Yeah, to be honest with you, the reason we're even on the phone today is because Ozzy and Sharon. Sharon saw a band that something was happening with, and it was a perfect fit for Aussie. We just became so close, and Ozzy took us around the world and just did everything for us. And of course, all the wild fun stories that are Aussie. But honestly, they broke our band, and I'll never be in, I'll forever be in debt to Sharon and Ozzy for that. Okay. All right, done. Fucking done. Oh, it's only 39 minutes into this thing. This is, I almost didn't. Let's see, what do we got? Ah, Todd Sauckman. Uh Matchbox 20 was great live and content. Blah, blah, blah. Uh, whatever. All right. Let me let me find something better to share me up. Uh let's see what this does. Wait a minute. Did Black Sabbath rip? While we're on the Black Sabbath thing. While we're on the Black Sabbath thing. Let's uh let's see what this is all about. No, well, okay, yeah. Let's just see what this is about. Uh dun dun dun. Let's get rid of that. There we go. Next on the screen, did Black Sabbath rip off this band's rip off this band while writing one of their most famous songs? All right, there's no two ways about it. Black Sabbath's Paranoid was one of those rare songs that provided catching lightning in the bottle is indeed possible. Proved that catching lightning in the bottle is indeed possible, and which went on to become a cornerstone of all future rock music. True. According to numerous accounts by different members of the legendary band, the song was notoriously cobbled together during a lunch break while Black Sabbath, uh, while Sabbath recorded the uh the eponymous uh 1970 studio album, and as Tony Iomie would often say, had very little to do with the sound and the vibe Iommi and company had going for themselves. Nevertheless, it became the heavy metal Godfather's only top 20 hit. While a new wave of interest in the period between Black Sabbath's Triumphant Back to the Beginning, farewell show on July 5th, and Ozzy Osborn's passing on the 22nd carried Paranoid to the top of the Billboard Hot Hard Rock Songs. Back in 2015, however, Guitar World suggested that the iconic riff from Paranoid sounds uncannily from similar to a song called Get Down, reportedly released by the Michigan-based collective half uh half-life a year before. All right, let's let's so let's well we got done. I don't care. Let's see what we got here. So let's go with uh suggested the iconic riff from Paranoid. So let's go to Paranoid, let's see what we got. Paranoid. N-O-I-D. Black Sabbath. Here we go. Let's see what we got. All right, this is what we got. Right. All right, I think we get it. We all know that. We all know that. Now, let's see if there's other songs available and we can uh based on uh reportedly get down by Half-Life. So let's see, get down Might not even be on uh let's see. Half-Life. I don't oh, let me see. Here we go. All right. Oh shit, I can hear it. That's a good one. Yeah. Oh yeah. No doubt about that. It even kicks in right when Ozzy starts singing. That guy starts singing, the guy from uh Half-Life. Ah so as per Guitar World, Half-Life released a song via the independent label A Square Records, but failed to gain traction on Detroit on Detroit radio stations. The song subsequently fell into obscurity, but was reissued as a part of the compilation titled A Square, of course, the story of Michigan's legendary A-Square Records. Oh, A Square, okay. Uh, while it would be very hard to imagine Tony Iomie ripping off an obscure underground band half the half a world away, it didn't matter. While sitting in the pre-uh-internet Birmingham of the early 1970s, the sonic similarities between the two songs are certainly there. Back in 2023, Tony Iomi noted how he had never written such a short song before Paranoid, he said. Uh we were in the studio doing the Paranoid album. The other guys went out for something to eat, and I sat in the studio, and the album's producer, Roger Bain, said, We need another song. We haven't got enough songs on the album. Can you put one together? I went, well, no. Uh we were only in there for a couple of days, you see, and I said, Well, I don't know. I've never written a three-minute song. Sabbath's always written songs that were five minutes or six minutes long, unlike Motley Crewe. So I came up with the idea and waited until the others came back and from the pub, and then I played them in the idea, and basically uh we've done it there and then. We've done it there and then. So I don't know. That's that that's pretty close. Let's see. That song's called Get Down. It came out about a year before. So you never know how music travels, man. And I don't know. That's really fucking close. That's an extreme coincidence. That is, I don't know, man. You make the call. You make the call. I it's too close. It's too again, Ozzy, the the singers kick in right around the same time, too. I mean, how does that like that's like Pink Floyd saying they didn't, you know, another I don't I believe that they didn't um write Dark Side of the Moon in conjunction with the Wizard of Oz movie. That's one of those insane coincidences, too. But this is this is kind of close. That's kind of close. All right, let's find another article. Let's see, let's do one more. Let's do one more. Um how about the member? All right, yeah, let's do this one. Let's do this one. This this looks interesting. There we go. There we go, okay. The member, Eddie Van Halen said had no impact on Van Halen. Oh boy. Oh boy. Ah, here we go. Uh, what do we got here? Was there any real sense in questioning Eddie Van Halen on anything Van Halen ever did? I don't know. The guitar legend was always going to have a major say in whatever the band were doing every single time they made a new record. And while Sammy Hagar and David Lee Roth, let me get rid of this. Okay, while Sammy Hagar and David Lee Roth helped bring structure to everything, it was all going to come down to Eddie's handiwork. But even if everyone let him do his own thing, Eddie didn't really think that they were all carrying their weight like they should either. Because when looking at both classic lineups of the band, it's not like anyone else was going to question that Eddie was the star. He might have not he might not have wanted to have his name in lights like Roth did. But the pure spectacle of seeing him play was worth the price of admission. What he was doing felt superhuman at the time, but when any band member is doing that much, everyone else is going to look like musical window dressing. And it's not like Hagar and Roth were exactly the most well-rounded musicians in the group either. Each of them brought something unique to the table, but whereas the Red Rocker had a lot more vocal range than Roth did, both of them did have their pitfalls every now and again. There was a third incarnation of the group, but the less said about Gary Sharon's time in the band, the better off most of us will be, despite Sherone having a great voice. Eddie wasn't going to keep his mouth shut when it came to what his late what his lead singers had said over the years. He felt like he was stabbed in the back multiple times by both front men. He was paranoid. I just think Eddie Van Halen was a prima donna, and he was paranoid. And he had an ego. But for as much resentment that he had for both of them after they left, there was always tension brewing between him and Michael Anthony from the first time they began performing. Get rid of this over here. Looking back on the classic lineup, Eddie thought Anthony hardly did anything to earn himself a spot in rock and roll history like he did, saying, quote, at least Dave pulled his weight. Mike did it. He didn't really ever do anything. He had zero input whatsoever. Well, who the fuck is going to have any input in that band with fucking David Lee Roth and Eddie Van Halen? Like who's going to have any input? It's like George Harrison barely had input with McCartney and Lennon. So he just doesn't like, he didn't like the fact, and I'm predicting this is going to be part of the article, uh, that Michael Anthony left and started playing with Sammy Hagar, and him and Sammy Hagar were really good friends. And I think, I think Eddie Van Halen hated that. And so now he's just being sour grapes. Uh, he didn't ever really do anything. He had zero input whatsoever, period. But he remodeled his whole house and bought himself a Turbo Carrera off the money he made off of us. Whatever. I I never even listened to his bass when we were recorded when we recorded. Oh, this dude. He was petty. This dude was petty. Then again, we are we remembering the same version of Michael Anthony here? Uh, sure. His lines weren't the hardest thing in the world to master, but his job keeping the rhythm section tight was one of the most exciting parts of Van Halen's records. He's right. Absolutely right. Running with the Devil and So This Is Love have certain atmosphere to them thanks to Anthony. And it's not stretching to say that he was as much a part of this sound as Alex was. He's right. He's absolutely right. But Eddie Van Halen was a petty person. He was a petty little man in the end. You don't want to think of your music idols, your rock idols as that, but he was a petty little man at the end as he got older. And let's not forget that immaculate high voice on some of their classics. While Eddie said time and time again that he never liked Mike's harmonies on the record because he could fucking sing better than Eddie Van Allen. There's a reason why the band simply didn't sound the same when he when his son Wolfgang took over on bass. That's right. That's right. No knock on Wolfie. Good for him. But there's a lot of character that Anthony's voice brought to the table, and Michael Anthony knows that. The fans know this. There's no doubt about that. The fan, any Van Halen, any, not Eddie, any Van Halen fan knows this. And that was the secret weapon that no one realized was there until it was suddenly wasn't. Now, I think a lot of us appreciated that backing vocals. Anthony is more than happy to keep on trucking with Sammy Hagar's band whenever he gets a chance, but he should never be treated as a secondary character in Van Halen's story either. He may have been the last one to create tension and start trouble, but every band needs that quiet member to help bring a sense of peace every single time they walk into the studio. That's right. There you go. We'll just that that's that's ending like that. And that's true. That's true. You can't take that away. I mean you just don't want to hear shit like that. It just shows, like it makes Eddie Van Halen look even worse than he really was. You know? Fucking asshole. Let me see. What do we got here? Um was there a lawsuit? I hear it too. I it doesn't say if there was a lawsuit, Perry. Lightfingers Devich AI. Uh Steve Stevens, let's see what he says here at the bottom. I was introduced to Van Halen at the McLean compound. So, Steve Stevens, I have an absolute, I love Steve Stevens, by the way. It's not his real last name, but I I love this dude. And there's a lot of good memories hanging together when we were younger. He had this, I believe it was this like like a burgundy red, maybe. Chevy and Paula, if I'm not mistaken. We're in that kind of realm of car. And he had the fucking. This is probably 1980. 1979, 1980, maybe. He had this fucking booming stereo. Booming fucking stereo. And I believe he had the fucking Jensen coaxles or triaxles, one or the other. It was a maroon caprice, that's right. And that's back when fucking gas was like 75 cents a gallon. And we would, that's how we hung out. It'd be the fucking middle of winter. We got school, it's a Wednesday night, but we're all fucking cruising around, everyone pitch in a buck or tube for gas, and we would just fight, and that shit was like a fucking literal indoor concert in the back of that fucking thing. There'd be like six of us stuffed in him. It was it was a it was a big car, so or five, three in the back, two in the front. But that was a great fucking memories, man. That maroon caprice will live forever in my memory. And and running with the devil, I swear, I swear, and this is not a terrible thing to say, this would prove my right hand to my my late brother Colin, who I still miss to every second of every day. Uh, I swear, every time I hear running with the devil, I fucking go back to like 1980 in that fucking red, the maroon caprice. I swear to God, that's the fucking one of the that's just a great memory for me. It was just so fucking cool back then. Everything was better back then. Let's see what uh Dave Phillips, king of the 45, says here. The traveling Wilburries were a super group with Harrison Petty and Lynn Dill. Yeah, that's a super group. We're going back to that. Uh let me see. Dave Phillips also says uh Clapton was phenomenal, a Mohegan son this past Saturday night. Okay. And Steve Stevens says the first time you heard Running with the Devil was at our house. My house. Yeah. Me and my brothers uh we had uh we used to have a good time at that house. Yes, we did. Uh let me see. And he also says he didn't know. I I've never knew that comparison to those two songs either, Paranoid and that that other song. Um what else we got? He says uh Paranoid was my least favorite Sabbath song. Once it got so much airplay, it soured me. Yeah. Rob Elston says, if they could exume Ozzy today, he would sound better than Vitz Neil. You ain't lying there, brother. You are not lying there. Uh Dave Hills, long live matchbox. Fuck Matchbox 20. Like I said, Perry Lightfinger Devich said, was there a lawsuit? Uh I don't know. I don't think there was. Oh, wait, look what I can look at. What do we got here? Look, hey, everybody. Let me see. What do we got? Cheap followers on Streamboo.com. Remove the space. Yeah. Cheap followers. Get the fuck. I'm add to the block list. Blocked, fucker. Clemenito111. Get off my screen. Get off my screen. Fucking spammers. That's what you get when you go on all these live sites. Someone's gonna jump in on you. Uh let me, what do we got? All right, we're coming up in an hour. I'm I'm gonna call it quits here. The only maybe I'll pick some of these up next week. I have uh the layered legacy of Nirvana's Come As You Are, uh, Double Meanings, Nam Miss Lawsuits, Town Memorials, and more. I have uh celebrated rock band explains decision to wind down touring cites record industry thievery. That's garbage. The group garbage. And she actually, I have a video. Shirley Manson actually said, This is it. We aren't touring anymore. Uh, one hit wonders only okay. You know, we'll finish with this one. Stick around, people. Here we go. I I I I let's do this. Well, we'll we'll end this one on a good note. Let me get rid of uh we're gonna end this one on a good note for real boomers. All right, let's get rid of this. Give me my typical little seven-second gap here. Screen. One hit wonders, share. Here we go. One hit wonders, only real boomers. Remember. Okay. Only real boomers. Are you a real boomer? In the ever-shifting landscape of popular music, some artists capture lightning in a bottle with one undeniable hit, only to recede from the limelight thereafter. There are the one-hit wonders that define an era. For those who grew up in the 60s and 70s, the radio was a constant companion delivering a steady stream of new songs that became the soundtrack of our youth, of to their youth. And it was. I mean, we were blessed to be able to just a radio was everything to us. It really was, right? Back in the day. There was no other distraction. The only thing that was in competition with the radio, there were two things that were in your house that were in competition with the radio. Think about this. Your stereo system, whatever makeup it was, right? Your stereo system and your TV. That was it. You had one, two, or three. That was your entertainment in your house. So it was an easy rotation, right? It's an easy rotation. And radio was fucking everything to us. Everything. I mean, how many fucking Sunday mornings, every Sunday morning, Casey Kasem's top four, American, top 40 radio. Like that thing is a three hour fucking show, and we listen to it. Carrying our little radio. Radio with us if we're going outside, whatever. But think about that. There was only two other uh uh things that competed with radio back in those days. There was the TV and your stereo system, if you even had one. Okay, the radio was a constant companion, delivering a steady stream of new songs that became the soundtrack of our youth. While many artists went on to uh to long-storied careers, some left an indelible mark with just a single iconic tune that only true baby boomers will instantly recall. These forgotten chot toppers were massive hits in their day, but their creators rarely replicated that mainstream success, becoming unique sonic bookmarks for a generation. Here are ten such songs that shone brightly, then faded into nostalgic memory. All right, these are one-hit wonders. Uh we'll see. Okay, one. Uh Spirit in the Sky, Norman Greenbaum. Now that is a great that's one of the greatest intros in music history. And if you know me, if you follow me on Facebook, or I do these on TikTok. It's the only thing I do on TikTok. I put I do these little shorts now called uh Which Song Do You Like Better? Or Which Intro Do You Like Better? So this is coming up. This one is coming up. This Spirit in the Sky is a really, really hard intro. You better be a really good. Let me see. Let me let I I gotta play it now, just at least the intro. Uh no, go away here. Here we go. No, yeah, here we go. Such a great fucking intro, right? But the song doesn't match the intro. The song does not match the intro. It's never meshed with me. Like, this should be something fucking heavy coming after this, right? Especially when the reverb kicks in. Like, something's supposed to come that's gonna fucking blow your mind, right? Right? No. It's just it just never meshed with me. That intro does not fit that song. That should, that groove should have stayed all the way through. If I was the producer in the studio, I'm like, this is stick with this, work through it, come up with something heavy, something that's gonna be in your face, fucking groovy, man, right? No, we get this whole fucking spiritual thing. I love the song, don't get me wrong, but I I also think I'm right here. And and if you agree with me or if you disagree with me, say it in the comments. Let me see. Uh yep, Spirit of the Sky was a raw psychedelic rock track. Not really psychedelic, featuring a distinct fuzz guitar and gospel-like lyrics. That's why it wasn't psychedelic rock. Um, it was more of a yeah, that rock gospel, both salvation, captioned in zeitgeist. It's unique sound and spiritual theme made it a massive, ubiquitous hit across the rock uh and pop radio, standing as the counterculture met the new decade. So yeah, I I think if that intro wasn't there in in in feel free to argue with me on this. It's just a debate. And uh God bless Charlie Kirk. Um just a debate. But I think if that intro wasn't there, this song would not have made it. I really don't think it would have. I think it would have been just an average song that would not have charted high, you know. I think that intro is what draws you in, and then it's like, well, okay. The song's driving rhythm and memorable guitar tone made it instantly recognizable on any radio document. There is a good guitar solo at the end, but despite its enduring popularity and frequent licensing and films decades later, Noah McGream never achieved similar chart success. Song became so iconic that it overshadowed everything else he ever recorded. The Gilligan syndrome. That's what I call the Gilligan syndrome. Yeah, Gilligan, none of those actors really ever got work after Gilligan's Island. Uh, making him synonymous with the single track, but that single track made him a lot of fucking money, people, if he had the right deal. Uh for Boom, he's hearing those opening guitar cords, right? Instantly transport them back to 1970, where the song seemed to play everywhere. All right, number two, in the summertime, Mungo Jerry. Okay. It's it's a it's kind of in the summertime when the wither is uh it's it's a good song. It's catchy. It's a catchy tune. That's the thing about in the summertime. It's just a catchy tune. I'm not going to play it because I don't want to play every fucking song that's coming up. But uh, yeah, okay. It's it's if somebody said who sings in the summertime, most if you're a real boomer, you would say Mungo Jerry, right? But he never did anything. While Mungo Jerry had some minor success in the UK and Europe with subsequent releases, in the summertime remains their only significant international pop hit. The band's other songs never matched the universal appeal and shot success of this summer classic. Uh for baby boomers, the song represents carefree optimism in the 70s summers, and the world seemed full of possibilities. Shocking Blue, Venus, right? Good version, good song. Uh Banana Rama did a great cover version, a great, great cover version of it. Um one of the best covers I've ever heard of a song. I I do believe, but then again, I love Bananorama. They are. They really are a guilty pleasure for me. I love Bananorama. I out of all the girl bands, I love Bananarama. Overall, they were the prettiest, too. They were the prettiest. The go-go's were dogs. They were dogs, except for Belinda Carlisle. The rest are dogs. And then you have uh uh who is it? Walk like an Egyptian. She's the prettiest one in the band. Susannah Hoff. Anyway, I digress. Uh let me see. Shocking Blue never managed to replicate the global success of Venus, making it their defining and only major international hit. That was Sweden, Swedish, I believe. Uh the band continued recording, had some success in Europe. Nothing came close to the worldwide phenomenon of Venus because it's a great song. That is a, you know, uh, but I I it's one of those questions, though, if you ask a boomer, like who sang Venus? Maybe they might not know Shocking Blue. Uh Lady Demonstrated Banana Ram, it's cover version. There you go, became a hit in the 80s, introducing the melody to a new generation, and they got paid. Vehicle, Izah. Much. This is a okay. Let me see. I gotta, this is this is a boomer song. It's a great fucking song, too. I love this song. This is that whole trumpet thing that was going on with Chicago, what sweat tears. Right? It's a good intro, too. It's a good intro. That's a great song. I'm your vehicle, baby. Yeah, I can sing. Okay, I'm not gonna read that whole thing. Let's go to the next one. Kung Fu Fighting. Kyle Douglas is number five. We all know that song. That's a boomer. Everybody knows that song. I won't even talk about that song. Number six, play that funky music, Wild Cherry. Okay. Yeah, they never really did anything after that. It's a boomer, it's a true boomer song, no doubt about it. Uh, you know, especially when they say white boy, right? Every white boy is like, yeah, yeah. Although a lot of my white friends aren't really that funky. As I said at the beginning of the last three episodes. You white boys, you white boys, they won't really have much rhythm. Just saying. From one white boy that has rhythm to another that doesn't have rhythm, you don't have much rhythm. You can debate me on Facebook on that. Ah, number seven, you light up my life. So this is also from the Poseidon Adventure, which was a mega hit, right? The Poseidon Adventure was a mega hit. So this was the song in the movie, and Debbie Boone, Pat Boone's daughter, I believe, and you know, uh, You Light Up My Life. Like, that was such a huge song that she was never gonna top that. She just wasn't. That's that's the problem with having a hit too early in your career. See, all right, American Pie. This is he's Don McLean was not a one-hit wonder. He was not a one-hit wonder. He had like three hits, four hits. So I don't know. I don't know why they would put that in there. Because a fucking Gen Xer wrote this article, I'm sure. Pillow Talk by Sylvia. Uh let's hear that. I don't I don't do I know this song. I'm sure I do, but let's see. Let's see what we got.

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No. Nah, I can't I can't this guy's this this right is losing me now. That's not a I mean, that's an average, to me, that was that's an average, that's a disco hit. You know, that was nah. Alright, what's this? Uh Nah nah, hey, hey, kiss them, kiss them goodbye. What? Steve's catchy anthematic pop rock song. Now I gotta hear this one too. It's this is getting away from me now. Nah, nah. Hey, hey, kiss them goodbye. What do what do we got? What do we got? Oh yeah. Hey, hey, hey, goodbye. Okay. All right. Oh, yeah. All right. Yeah, that that I'll give you that. Yeah. I I I'll be honest, I didn't know Steam was the band that sang that. I I just learned something. So that is a one-hit wonder. Conclusion. These songs, while perhaps the sole major hits for their artists, were far from throwaways. They captured the spirit of their time. They did, showcased unique musical ideas and became uh deeply ingrained in the memories of Generation Each track. Baby boomers, these one-hit wonders aren't just trivia answers, nostalgic curiosity. Okay, blah, blah, blah. All right, there we go. There we go. We got rid of all that. Let's get rid of this. I don't know what we have. Do we have any more comments? Best intro ever, 25 or 6-4. Uh, best intro ever, 25 to 6 to 4. Ah, great one. Good night, Scott. Yep, Dave Phillips. Going to watch football. Great show as always, my friend. Steve Stevens. Loved it. Okay. Yep. Well, I'm uh I'm going. Dr. Vera, the beautiful, amazing, brilliant Dr. Vera, my wife. And Vera's not her first name, by the way. It's a thing. Um, she's home now, so I'm gonna go meet her. And uh, everybody, as I always say, uh, thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. If you liked it, share it. If you didn't like it, well, thanks for watching and listening for an hour and 12 minutes. I always appreciate you. You are the engine that runs this machine. If it wasn't for you, it'd just be me doing this, and I'd still do it because I love doing this. This is my church, as I say. This is my church, this is my my uh my zen. Uh, whenever I get on Wednesday, Thursday night live. I love doing this. It's cathartic, it's therapeutic for me uh on so many levels, and you guys are always nice enough to watch and listen, and I do appreciate it, honestly, uh, from the bottom of my heart. This this doing this, this is like episode 190 or something, and and it's just uh I just love doing this. I love it. So it's more than just podcasting and live streaming today. So, with all that said, doing all these shows for you, to quote my favorite artist Morrissey, who just had a death threat. Why does somebody want to fucking hurt Morrissey? Really? Anyways, we'll talk about that next week. Doing a show for you. The pleasure, the privilege is mine, and I'll be back next week.