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Ep. 187 - Music News Reactions, KISS Guitar Drama, And The 15 Best One-Word Horror Movies

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We go live, shake off tech gremlins, and dive into a sharp, funny tour through music headlines, a KISS guitar legacy check, and a Halloween-ready sprint through one-word horror greats. Along the way, we debate what “legendary” really means and why some songs grow back after years away.

• Wyman’s solo box set and the meaning of legendary 
• How guest lists and name gravity shape solo careers 
• Ace Frehley’s feel vs technique and KISS’s show design 
• Why shredding fades but melody sticks 
• 80s pop that suddenly sounds good again 
• The neuroscience of the Phil Collins drum fill 
• One-word horror rankings with must-watch picks 
• Rob Zombie’s Halloween remake defended 
• Listener chat shoutouts and local Corey Hart lore

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What's up everybody? Welcome to the podcast. You know the name, I'm not gonna say it. Had a little bit of a technical difficulty. I don't care. Welcome to episode 189. I don't know, 190? We're getting there little gang stuff. Yeah, hang in there, white people. It'll go away. It'll go away. Hold on.

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Maybe you're sound to have masterpiece.

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That is a cool beat though, you gotta admit. The gang star, masterpiece. Yeah. There you go. Rest in peace, guru. So what's up, everybody? Welcome to the podcast. You know the name I'm not gonna say we're streaming live over everything right now. I've been saying that for a long time. Yeah. And hopefully I'll be saying it for a long time to come. I know Jack tonight. He, you know, uh he again was I'm not feeling good last-minute thing, but you know, after I don't know how many years? I don't care. I really don't care. Wait, we're cutting the fireman's head. Let's get that fixed. Okay, there we go. You know, it's it's back in the day, though, it used to be something that I would be like, oh shit, you know. Uh, how am I gonna do this? What am I gonna do? I need somebody to do this podcast with. But uh, not anymore. I'm a big boy now. All right. I gotta check. I have to check, see if I'm if I'm if I'm live where I'm supposed to be live. Sometimes you gotta do that, considering I started off this uh the show. It wasn't, wasn't, there was no connection, and I had to reboot and yada yada, you know. All right, I'm good. I'm good, I'm ready to go. So we're gonna do what I usually do now. I have some articles, some news articles, music articles that I am going to read to you that I have not read yet, right? That's the thing. So these are all reaction articles. And uh yeah, let's see. What do we start off with? What do we start off with? Uh hang in there. You know, I got it takes me a few seconds to get to it, but you know, I'll pull this up screen. All right, here we go. This is this one. Okay. Ex-Rolling Stones bassist Bill Lyman releasing career spanning solo box set. Solo. Box set. Treasury, he's calling it. That includes a dozen rare demos. Well, I think it's safe to say, maybe I'm wrong. Hit me up in the comments. Uh, I haven't checked the comments yet, but um I will in a minute. Uh, hit me up in the comments if if you don't think that even an album by Bill Wyman is a is a rare demo. Does anybody know that this fucking guy put out six albums? Before I get to that, let me see something. Hold on. Let's see what's in the chat. Uh, Patty's there. Okay. Yeah, does anybody know this? Does anybody really know what time it is? Right? Uh, let's see how this rolls. Let me see. Does this move the screen? Yeah, the chat makes the screen small. I don't like that. I like it like that. I'll keep it like this for now so we can get the big screen effect. But uh let's see what uh this is all about. A new box set. A box set will offer fans. I suppose he does have fans. A deep dive into longtime Rolling Stones bassist Bill Wyman's solo career. That's a weird story, too. I think you probably most of you know it. Leaves the Rolling Stones, ends up with like an 18-year-old girl, they hook up, and then his son ends up hooking up with that girl's mother. It's fucking weird. I don't know. Hey, God bless him. When you get all that money, you fucking get to do weird shit. Uh, Bill Wyman Treasury is a seven CD, a hundred and seven tracks. What the fuck? Who is gonna listen to 107 tracks of Bill Wyman playing the bass? What do we have? What do we have? Uyman plays Metallica. Bill Wyman plays the Rolling Stones. I don't know how how is that gonna go? Oh, it's coming out November 28th. I can't wait. Uh the box set features Wyman's still funny this one to me. Six solo studio albums, as well as a variety of bonus tracks. Including demos, single mixes, and single edits. Wow. He even released singles. The albums are Wyman's 1974 solo debut, monkey grip, Stone Alone. Oh good. Oh good. That came out in 76. Then in 82, he had the self-titled album, Bill Wyman. Then in 92, he had an album called Stuff. Then Back to Basics in 2015 and Drive My Car in 2024. Well, how did I ever miss this? How did I ever miss this? I just don't know. I don't know. Let's continue. Treasury's seventh CD contains 12 previously unreleased demo recordings dating from various periods in Bill's career. Oh, Lord. The box set will come packaged with a booklet featuring photos from Maiman's personal archive. That that would probably be interesting. Way more interesting than Bill Wyman plays Sinatra. And a new interview with in which Bill reflects on his solo career. That should be a fucking short conversation. That should be a short, very short conversation. The interview is conducted by UK broadcaster and author Paul Sexton, who has spoken with the legendary musician many times since the late 1980s. Is he legendary? He quit. He quit the band. Like, is he legendary or is he just well known? There's a fucking difference there. There's a huge difference between well-known and legendary. What what possibly what legendary act did he contribute to the Rolling Stones before he quit? I'll let you, I'm gonna have some iced coffee. I'll let you think of that. Have you come up with anything yet? Because I haven't. Legendary. Okay. News of the treasury box that comes in advance of Wyman's 89th birthday. God bless him for that. I mean, hey, God bless him for that. Which is on Keith Richards will live to 109, though. Uh, which is on October 24th. The collection can be pre-ordered now, so get yours today. Get yours today. An exclusive version is available that comes with a print signed by Bill. I think he's an artist too. I think he got into the art world, if I'm not mistaken. I I believe, actually, he uh last year was at the Uptown Mall, uh, which is the the mall in Boca Raton where I live. It is it's kind of upscale, I'm not gonna lie. There's a there's a store in there, it has our it's a gallery. And uh I believe he was there last year signing things and wanting you to buy his$10,000 paintings, I think. I I I passed. Although it is literally four miles from my house. Uh I'm oh I am not going through all these albums. Oh, no, no, no. No, no, no. Well, okay, I'll give you a brief thing. This came Monkey Grip came out in 74. Uh it can tr contributions from an impressive list of guests. Called Little Feats, George Lowell, George, Dr. John, Leon Russell, Danny, Korchmar, Dallas Taylor, George McCrae, Nikki Hopkins. Uh peaked at 99 in the Billboard top 100 in number 39 in the UK. Stone Alone, among them, uh, Ronnie Wood stepped in. Joe uh that came out in 76, Joe Walsh, Van Morrison, Bob Welch, Dr. John, Al Cooper, Hopkins, John McPhee from the Dewey Brothers, Taylor Kauchmagan, and members of the Pointer Sisters. This is so you got to think this is 76. This is when he was still a Rolling Stone, right? So I'm not I'm not saying that's why these people got on his album, but this is why these people got on his album. Because they weren't getting on a Rolling Stone album, Rolling Stones album. Uh, let's see. Then the self-titled album came out in '82. Good year, great year for me. Uh, let's see. Guest musicians, Stray Cats Brian Setzer. That was his time. 82, Slim Jim Phantom, right? The Stray Cats. Guitarist Chris Ray, King Crimson, multi-instrumentalist Mel Collins, and Fairport Convention drummer Dave Maddox. Not as see, not as big in names as the prior album, right? Let's see how these names start to kind of maybe die off. Let's see. Then stuff came out in '92. Contributions from longtime Rolling Stones touring keyboardist Chuck Lavelle. Well, and that that's not a stretch. I mean, he known the guy for years. So uh, and longtime Elton John percussionist Ray Cooper. See, see the names starting to fall down, get a little lesser, right? Right? You see this? Because he's not a Rolling Stone anymore. He's evidently not legendary at this point. He's the guy that married an 18, he's a what is a 60-year-old guy that married an 18-year-old girl. Some shit like that. Uh, let's see. Back to basics came out in 2015. Uh musicians featured were ex-Diastrait's keyboardist Guy Fletcher. One time, pretenders in Paul McCartney touring guitarist Robbie McIntosh. Look at that. Those are not really big names. No, those are fucking worse than the last album. I can only imagine what he got in 2024. Okay, uh, Drive My Car came out in 2024. Let's let's let's finish this off. Let's put him out of his misery. Uh, the album featured several interesting cover songs. I wasn't too far off. Bill Wyman does Metallica, Bill Wyman does Sinatra, Bill Wyman does Aerosmith. Let's see who he did, including Bob Dylan's Thunder of Mountains, Taj Mahal's Light Rain, and the late John Prine's Ain't Hurtin Nobody. Oh, contributions from uh from Fletcher, Macintosh, and frequent Eric Clapton touring guitarist Andy Fairweather. Low. There you go. There you go. Oof. Oof. Legendary. It was legendary. Yeah. Okay. Let's get it. Enough of that. Let's go back to the screen. Here I am. Back to the show. Let's see. What do we call him now? What do we call him? Hold on. Hold on. We added to his name. We had Lightfinger, Perry Devich, the AI. Lightfingers. But what did we add to it? Last episode, there was something like real man or something. Perry Devich. He says he remembers one song. That was one song. Okay. Let's see. Let's get to the next article. Let's see if I remember how to do this. You know, taking a week off, you forget shit. All right. So I know what I have to do. I have to go here. Let's go over here. I got a bunch of like little things. Let's go with the Ace Freely one. I guess. In memoriam, right? For Ace Freely. Let's let's see if this comes up. There we go. All right. Pull it up on the screen. There we go. Screen. Ace Freely. Okay, here we go. That. Get off the screen. That's what I hate these fucking pop-ups. All right. Here we go. Ace Freely. I didn't realize how short he was. That's a quote. The late Ace Freely always spoke his mind. And when it came to his KISS replacements, Bruce Kolick, Kulik, Vinny Vincent, and Tommy Thayer, the space ace had plenty to say. As the quintessential KISS guitarist, Ace knew he was a tough act to follow. Ace Freely didn't just play guitar and kiss. He didn't just write songs and sing either. He poured himself into the gig with a personality and style that was too big for his space ace costume to contain. Oh, he was too big. His off-kilter truly idiosyncratic. See how I I'm a fucking good reader. See that? I pulled that one off with the I've never read this article. Look at see how I can pull off idiosyncratic. I am a fucking good reader. Give me credit on this. Yes. I am self-taught too, because I was fucking shit in high school. I was shit. There's a whole story behind uh why I became I'm I'm a fairly good writer too, and there's a whole story behind that. It was it's based on humiliation. As in me being humiliated. Um another story for another time. Back to the show. His off-kilter, truly uh truly idiosyncratic guitar approach defined KISS's early six-string sound. Classic cuts like Deuce, Cold Gin, Detroit Rock City, Love Gun, and his signature tune Shock Me could have never happened without the Space Ace. But Freely, who died in October on October 16th following a fall at his studio, was too big for KISS to contain. His tenure lasted from 73 to 82 and again from '96 to 2002. During his absence, a handful of guitarists filled in, including Bruce Kulik, Vinny Vincent, and Tommy Thayer, but none could take his place, which I would agree with. Uh it goes without saying that Freely had admittedly unschooled musician, was a uh Freely an admittedly unschooled musician who leans heavily into vibe and balls to the wall cock rock. What the fuck does that mean? What the fuck does who wrote this? Hold on. Who the fuck wrote this? Andrew Daly. Fucking Andrew Daly's probably 32 years old. Trying to be fucking cool, man. Balls to the wall, cock rock. I'm a music guy. I think we all know this. And probably the people listening and watching are music people too. Have you ever used that fucking term? Cock rock? No. That's a fucking Gen Z shit, made up shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Alright. Is a different animal uh than those who came after him. For one thing, he's been the most influential lead guitarist in the group by far. Well, well, when you're the original guitarist, I mean Bill Wyman is known as the bass player for the Rolling Stones, right? I mean, he was nobody actually replaced him. They did have somebody replace him, but he didn't become part of the band, but it's another story. Uh but when you're the guy who who played with them for nine years at their biggest peak, yeah, of course you're going to be hard to replace. Uh, with fans that range from Kim Thail and to John Five. John Five's a great guitar player, by the way. I'd probably have practiced a little more if I knew I was going to affect that many people's lives. But I think, you know, and so in all honesty, I think if he had practiced, he wouldn't have played the way he played. You know, that balls to the wall, cock rock. I just think he played the way he wanted to play, and that was it. And he and he did great. Great guitars. I saw him live, put on a great show. Um, yeah, I I have nothing. I don't like KISS in general, but I I I don't dislike them either. Um, but I I think they're all in their own way uh you know contributed to history, right, and rock and roll. I think that's safe to say. Some more dynamic than others. They all had their own personality. At one point, each one of the members of the band had their own album. They did this thing where each one of them made a solo album, but it was a brilliant marketing tool also because everyone went out and bought all their all four albums. I don't know if anyone remembers that, but that was the thing. Um, so let's see, he says, uh, Ace told us recently when discussing five classic kiss tracks. It does make me proud and very happy, though, that I influenced a lot of great guitar players. There you go. It goes without saying that when it comes to the quintessential kiss guitar theatrics, the buck kind of sort of stops with Ace. But where does that leave Vinny, Bruce, and Tommy? Well, well, we'll let Ace tell you himself. I would say that Bruce, Kulik, I believe his name is, uh, was the best guitar player all around. He's technically a better player than I am, in my opinion. He can play stuff that I can't play. He's just a technically better musician. I never took guitar lessons, you know, which is amazing. That's still shit like that fascinates me how people can just do that. Like they can pick up a guitar and just learn it. You know, it's like Pantera, Dimebag Darrell. That dude just fucking never played a guitar before and became one of the never took lessons self-taught and became one of the greatest fucking uh, you know, heavy metal guitarists ever. Uh, I never took a guitar lesson, you know, but when it comes to playing melodic guitar solos, you know that nobody is better than me. So there you go. There you go. Give yourself that credit, buddy. Of course, right? Uh a lot of that has to do with how you hit the string with the guitar pick and hitting the string with your finger at the same time. That's how you get the harmonics. A lot of musicians aren't even able to hit that. Uh, it takes, oh let me see, it takes a while to learn that technique with a really good vibrato, but it's a winning combination. I know Bruce admires me as a musician, and vice versa. We've jammed together at a couple of conventions, but it hasn't really gone any further than that. Well, I mean, on my last Origins Record, Volume 2, he played on a Hendrix song, uh, Manic Depression. Manic Depression was a good song. We traded off solos, but it was done remotely with Pro Tools. There you go. So, in other words, what they did was they didn't play together. Um, Bruce cut his track at a studio and recorded it through uh through Pro Tools, which is uh like an editing, an auto audio editing program, and he sent them the file. So that's kind of how that happened. But they never seemed to play together on that album. Uh Vinny Vincent played too fast. Now they didn't really the band didn't really like Vinny Vincent. They liked him, but he did what he wanted. They had a structured show. Chris was Kiss was always a structured show. Like you two always had a has and still probably does, a very structured show. It's gonna be this way. Everything is timed, everything is it's a performance. It's a performance. It's not like, say, Pearl Jam that decides what 15 songs they're gonna play an hour before the gig. You know, it's always like this is the show. And it's gonna you you're gonna see the same show in Boston that you would see in LA, right? Uh Vinny Vincent didn't really fall into that. He would break off and he would do these long guitar solos, which is not a kiss thing. If you notice, Ace really never did these long guitar virtuoso, you know, uh uh solos. They were, they were, they were good. They filled the spot in the song, but there was never in concert, he had that one thing where the his guitar would light on fire and you know, it would start, he'd let it go and it would start floating to the top of the stage, and you're watching this guitar sparking, and then out of nowhere he comes off the side of the stage with another guitar. This is the show I saw, and he kind of points that guitar at the one that's starting to float up, you know. Of course, it's on a wire, and and he like hits a chord, wow, and this like spark shoots out. You can see it's following a line, uh, and it hits his guitar and it starts smoking and all that. But what was cool is when he was doing that, uh, while he was playing it, the the guitar started to smoke. Like you saw smoke coming out of the guitar, which was pretty fucking cool, actually. This was I think 79 when I saw them. But, anyways, I guess what would happen is Vinny Vincent would play these solos, and Gene and and Paul Stanley would just fucking walk off. They're like, time to take a Vinny break, and they would like walk off stage because I don't know, I don't even know why they put up with it. Maybe they just he was that good of a guitar player, but they he he kind of broke the golden rule of kiss. But I said I never so Vinny Vincent played too fast. I never paid much attention to him as far as anything else. I know that Paul used to complain to me about Vinny. See, there you go. This is proof that I don't read these articles, right? He said that he was like a loose canon and that he doubled the length of the guitar so see? I know my shit here. And that he played things too fast and they couldn't control him, you know. So look at see, I fucking, yeah. Validation right there, baby. But I was really amazed. I hadn't met him over the years. The first time I met him was a few years ago in Florida, and I didn't realize how short he was. That's the shot right there. That's the shot. And then he laughs. I was really like towering over him. Uh, but the problem with shredding is that it's not memorable, you know. He's right. When you put 64 notes in a bar or two bars, you don't know what the guy is playing. I mean, not everybody can do that, but I'm more into melody, as he said earlier in the he's the best at the melodic sounds, right? All right, Tommy Thayer. Uh, he was later on. I I mean, I don't know, look at the look at the suit. Like, that's it's just weird seeing them wearing the uh and Vinny Vincent was he had like some Egyptian kind of look, I think, um, when he was the guitarist. Uh Tommy Thayer played the right mo the right notes, but he didn't have the right swagger. He just doesn't have my same technique. Really, no two guitarists have the same technique. Isn't that the goal, right? For example, my father was an excellent pianist. He could play Beethoven, Chopin, and eventually, and everything. He would always say to me, it's not so much playing the right notes, it's how hard you hit it and how to use the pedals below the piano. It's all in the technique. I never forgot that. And because my father had a very light touch, he had excellent technique. I took that and transferred it to the electric guitar and my focus toward it. Uh, so for me, it's not just about hitting the right notes, but doing it with style, you know, my style, as he said three other times during this interview. But it is true that Tommy had to show me some of those old parts when I came back for the reunion. You got to realize that there's songs that Paul and Gene Simmons wanted me to perform that I hadn't played in 10 or 15 years. Tommy's like an encyclopedia and he knows how to play the right moves. That's cool. That's cool they got along, right? That's cool. Um, but Tommy was funny. When I played uh certain solos, I played them at a different position on the neck and he thought I uh than he thought I did. He would go, wow, that's surprising. I'd go, well, Tommy, I just I'm just not a school musician, so I played things where I feel like playing them. And it surprised him because he thought I'd play them from a different position on the neck. Guitar talk, right? Uh as it turned out, he wasn't playing them correctly either. I thought it was funny, and so did he. Laugh. Ha ha. End of end of the thing. Let me see. Ace Freely on Ace Freely on Plans for his unfinished album. Well, I don't think we should probably read that because it's not gonna get finished. This it says Ace Freely on plans for his unfinished final album. Might get released incomplete, I think. All right, let's see. What do we got next? Let's get rid of this. Let's go back to the screen. There we go. All right. What else we got? What else do we have?

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How long are we in? All right, we're already a half hour in. All right, wow. These articles go fast. All right, I think I have some lists. I like these little lists. They seem they just seem interesting. So let's go over. Yeah, let's pull this up. What do we want to listen to? Three one-hit wonders from 1979 that topped the charts in a big way. Uh, three pop one-hit wonders from the 90s who vanished. Uh four overplayed 80s pop songs you used to avoid, but now kind of like. All right, well, let's let's jump into the 80s. Let's see what we got. Is that a video? I hope it's not a video. No, okay. Alrighty then. Let's pull it up. Add scene. Take me off the screen. Over here. Over here. And voila. Where we go. Four overplayed 80s pop songs you used to avoid, but now kind of like. I think we'll be the judge of that. Right? I think we'll be the judge of that. I can see the bottom one already kind of snuck out. Uh, you know the phrase, time heals all wounds, with enough time one's pain will fade. The same can be true for overplayed songs you once tried to avoid. You may even require a dash of irony, though not always, to admit that you now kind of like these overplayed pop songs from the 1980s. Now, there's a difference between an overplayed pop song and a song that you liked, then you just didn't like, and then you re-like again. Like I had that recently with a whole lot of love. And now I I look back, I look at that song now totally differently, and it's a fucking amazing song. I just heard it so much as a kid that I really kind of lost respect for it. And then you don't listen to it for literally years, and then it pops on the radio one day and you just hear that intro. And it when it catches you off guard, I think we all have this. I don't think this is anything, you know, singular to me. I think when we all have this, it we all do have this, and it's like you all of a sudden you hear and you're like. You know what? That fucking sounds good again. Like you just get that, like, this sounds good again. And now I'm fucking into it again. And I heard this today. It happened today. With Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath. What is this? That stands before me. Like I sat in my car literally in front of the UPS store and just fucking listened to it. I was like, fucking good again. So this happens. This is different. This is different. This is songs you used to like, you used to avoid, but now you like them. All right, song number one, Sister Christian by Night Ranger. Now, I'm not gonna kill this song. I'm not gonna kill it. I I I think I it's not a bad song. Like it was never a bad song to me. It was a song I liked, and then I just kind of I never was like, oh, fucking this song again. So I never had that with this song. It's just a song I I guess, like the title says, I avoided it, right? Um if it was on the radio and whatever, I would never go, oh, getting rid of this. There's background music sometimes, but I never listened to it on repeat. I didn't buy the album. I've never downloaded the MP3, I never bought the CD, I never bought the 45 if they even had them when Night Ranger was around. So let's see. Uh, if you're old enough, you probably know Sister Christian from the Boogie Knights soundtrack. That's a great movie, by the way. Um, if you're even older than that, you'll know it from rock radio in the 80s, right? Uh drummer Kelly Kege wrote Night Ranger's biggest hit about how quickly his kid's sister had grown up. He sings the tune from behind the kit, and the peak moment in the music video happens when Kege pounds a drum fill before quickly spinning toward the camera to sing the final verse. And I'm not gonna play the song, but I think we all know what that is, right? Sunglasses at night. I always like the song. Is it a guilty pleasure? I don't know. I don't know. I just like the song. I still like the song. I I don't I don't think I ever avoided this song. I don't think there's ever been one point since this song came out that I was like, sick of this song. I don't know. I just I just like the fucking song. Agree or disagree, I don't know. Put it in the comments. But I always like wear my sunglasses at night. And you know, don't switch the blade on the guy in shades. I don't understand what that means. Don't switch the blade on the guy in shades, oh dude. Like, what does that even mean? I have sunglasses on, don't pull, and I'm wearing them at night, so don't pull a fucking switch blade on me. Like, what scenario? I've been in a lot of crazy fucking scenarios. That's not one of them. Me wearing sunglasses, I got a switchblade. Now I had a fucking buck knife put to my throat, literally, that is not a lie. Literally a fucking six-inch buck knife blade put to my skin on my neck. It was a bad fucking scene. I'm here to talk about it, but it was a fucking bad scene. I'm telling you right now, that was close. That was very close. But I didn't have shades on. Maybe if I had shades on, this never would have happened. I wouldn't have had that fucking blade put on my neck. Don't put the blade on my neck because I got sunglasses on. Right? Okay. Enough of that. So I so I can't tell if Coriot is wearing sunglasses to hide from his cheating lover or whether the shades offer some kind of intuition about the affair. But I imagine him sneaking around to the soundtrack of a spooky synth riff. Wait, I like Synth. We all know that. While his partner obviously sees him following her, uh sticking out like a sore thumb because he's wearing sunglasses at night. So I think what's going on here, I don't really know the lyrics to the song. Uh still, you might crank the hook when the hot strings don't switch the blade on the guy in shades. Oh no, see, there you go. It's still good. I I think this was going off like what the video was, but remember back then, back then, uh in the 80s when MTV was big, for the first like four years of MTV, a lot of the videos made fucking zero sense. If you go back and watch videos from the early days of MTV, they didn't make no fucking sense at all. And I ran by flock of seagulls. Go watch that fucking thing. That's a room full of tinfoil. And if you look in the mirror, because this is like they keep circling, right? You see the fucking camera on a tripod wrapped in fucking tinfoil. Makes no fucking sense. Makes no sense. A video killed a radio stop. Makes no fucking sense. Love plus one, love plus one. That makes fucking zero sense. They're on a fucking island getting eaten by hot female cannibals. Makes no sense. So I think the guy misinterprets maybe what this song is about by the video, but then again, he's probably another Gen Z who's trying to be cool. I digress. Moving on. Total eclipse of the Heart. It was good for a minute. This I agree with this one. Yeah, but I don't so the the title of this article is I avoided it then, but I kind of like them now. No, I don't, I don't, I don't really like this song. I I won't listen. I wouldn't I wouldn't keep it on the radio if it was on like I would Corey Hart or Sister Christian. I I wouldn't. Uh and good for Bonnie Tyler. Hey, she fucking makes a boat motor load of money off this song, I'm sure. Still says, I didn't appreciate this track until I witnessed Brandy Carlyle perform it at her Girls Just Wanna Weekend Festival in Mexico. So this tells you this is a Gen Zier, right? Uh each year Carly plays a dedicated 80 set backed by her band and guest vocalist. I don't know who Brandy Carly is. Uh I was there performing with another artist and wound up on stage while Carly and friends ripped through Totally Clips of the Heart. Now, Carly could probably change my mind on just about any song after hearing her sing it. Anyway. Nonetheless, Barney Tyler's hit is a lengthy and dramatic seven minutes of earnest airworms.

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Uh, in the air tonight, Phil Collins. I still a great song. Still a great song. I I don't think it ever got avoided. I don't think it really did get avoided. Not by me. I can only speak for me. But uh when you play this track, you know exactly what you're waiting for. That's right. Now, the brilliant version of this song is on the album, the soundtrack from the movie Monty Python's Secret Policeman's Other Ball. Now, this I might play. Let me let me pull. This was brilliantly done. Alright, let me see. Um go away. I'm gonna find this secret policeman's ball. Here we go. Let's see the playlist of the album. Let's go with the album. Secret Policeman's Ball. Is it another ball? Playlist. Yeah, here we go. So let's let's see if it's no it's not. Come on. That's not it. Uh that's a playlist. Concert. There we go. He did this version at Live Aid also. He did it first during for the for the movie Secret Policeman's Other Ball. I wanna try to find that. And this is gonna get me, of course, copyright. He's on the piano. Fast forward. Let's see. I can't I can't like kind of roll this too long. Alright, there it comes. If you've never heard this version, this is this this was again when you saw it in the movie theaters. You know, they had stayed doing rock standing on a cappella with just a hymn and a guitar.

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It was like almost not unplugged, but so there we go.

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No, you don't feel me. First time I ever saw this, this is crazy. Alright, you know what happened. You we all know what happened. It still happens to me today. You know what just happened there. In your brain, you went ba doom, ba-doom, ba-doom, ba doom, boom, boom. If you say you didn't, you're fucking lying, because everybody does it. That's the amazing part of this song. That song is imprinted. It's literally imprinted in a generation of brains. Whether you like the song or not, you all know that, we all know that ba doom, ba doom, ba doom, ba doom, boom, boom. And leaving that out, the first time we saw it, I think that out that movie came out in like 78 or something. It's a great concert movie. You got Sting doing rock sand, right? Um let me see. Here you go. It's almost no, see, that's too loud. I I can't find. Let me see. Uh maybe it's not on Spotify. Maybe it's not on Son. Um it's it's let me see. Roxanne, please. Nah, I'm not gonna find it. I don't want to waste any more time on it either. Um if you can find it, go listen to it. It's very, it's very quiet. There's no crowd in the background. They did it at a theater, and it's just him doing Roxanne almost a cappella. He just has his guitar and it's very quiet. Great, great thing, great stuff. All right, yeah, that's the songs. I have another list now. I'm gonna move on. I'm gonna get rid of this. Uh, I get about, I don't know, I got about 15 minutes left. Let me see. Uh, yes, I did. Let me see. Perry says, I don't want my M T I didn't, I don't want my MTV. Isn't Cory Hott your neighbor? Dave Phillips, king of the 45s. What's up, buddy? Welcome to the show, and it's almost over. Uh, Cory Hott did, I don't know if he still lives in Boca. Uh, as the story goes, my my beautiful wife, Dr. Vera, she was uh trick-and-treating with my stepkids when they were little, and she walked up into a driveway in one of these Boca houses, and uh she lived in Boca when I met her. That's how I ended up here. I am now an official Boca boy, and uh, and I love it. Um she walks up to the driveway, and she, you know, he this guy giving candy, he's like sitting at a table and you're giving candy or something. And and now my wife came from the Philippines in '93, right? Um, and so this is what makes it a little more interesting. So she and she she's here for a little while, and this is probably the early 2000s, whatever. And she looks at the guy and she goes, Are you Corey Hart? Like, just like that. Like, this guy had been out of the picture for a while now. It said he had put on a little weight. And he just said, Yes, I am. And she's like, Wow, nice to meet you. And he's like, Yeah, nice to meet you. And uh he no, he didn't have his sunglasses on Dave Phillips, king of the 45s. Good question, though. Uh, so she just started talking to him. And I'm just gonna say, my wife's a beautiful woman, so I'm sure he didn't mind talking to her. And uh he ended up telling her, like, yeah, he did good in the in the music, and that song did him great. And uh that he, you know, he owned this house in Boca, but he also owned a house in the Bahamas. Like he invested his money right. He he did the right thing, and he that song made him good money, and he's probably lives comfortably, but he had a bad back. He made so he he's he's he's a Jew. I I I'm thinking I think he is. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I I love my Jewish friends. Considering in this today's environment, I'll say that. I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck. I love my Jewish friends. Um and the the Jews hold a very special place in my heart. So you don't like the Jews, fuck you, don't listen to my show. I can say that. I don't care, it's my show, but nah, I'm not getting political. I never get political here. But he he complained about his bad back. Boy, fake. So, yeah, that's that's the Corey Hart song. That's the Corey Hart story. Uh, let me see. This is this article. I I well, no, no, it's not this one. Let's get rid of that. This is I'm going way outside the box now with this one. Uh notes. Let's go to Oh my God. Here we go. Since we're coming up on Halloween, this is not music related. This is not music related. I came across this. I said, you know what? This is gonna be a good segment to end the the show. So we're gonna go over here screen. This article is called I'm gonna get rid of that. The NBA opens. No, nope, skip. There we go. 15 best one-word horror movies of all time ranked. Now, this is from the complex.com. Uh this this this should be interesting. Again, I didn't read this. I didn't read it, so I'm probably not going to argue with any of this because I love horror movies. I watched Blackenstein today. The 1973 classic black exploitation movie Blackenstein. Of course, they it they came out with Blackula, you know, a couple years before that, so they had to get on that bandwagon. And and Blackenstein is not a fucking handsome. He is not, that is the most fucking bizarre-looking Frankenstein I've ever seen. Fucking campy as fuck, but you know, it was great. It was a great watch. Let me see. The other day I watched Twins of Terror, an old Hammer film. Uh Hammer films were the classic vampire movies, Wolfman. They didn't do much Wolfman, they did Frankenstein, a lot of Dracula movies. Uh Hammer Studios was the greatest, uh, the greatest horror studios ever created. Uh Bloom House today is is is probably, I would say, the number one uh studio for horror movies. But uh Hammer films are just great. You're guaranteed to see big boobs, hot women, and they always took place in a dark castle. So it was, it was, they're always always great, great. And then uh I think yesterday I watched um I watched the 2013, I should probably do a fucking podcast on movies, like horror movies. I watched the 2013 found footage film, uh Frankenstein's Army, which I highly recommend. I highly recommend that. Watch Frankenstein's Army. I think it's on Amazon. It was quite an entertaining watch, I must say. It was a very entertaining watch. And I'm surprised I didn't hear about it. It has to do with Nazis and Russians in the war, World War II and this fucking weird building that they come across. It's a whole thing. And and Frankenstein's army is fucked up. It's fucked up. Uh, but it's a great play on Frankenstein, as I as I posted today. Uh, did you know that there are 59 movies on Amazon Prime uh with Frankenstein in the name or some iteration of Frankenstein? And that's including Blackenstein. I I included Blackenstein in my in my list of 59 movies that are related to Frankenstein in some iteration or another. But here we go. Best one-word horror movies of all time. And I know all you boomers, all us boomers that think of that one movie, we know. I'm just curious as to where it's ranked, right? So start thinking of some one name horror movies as I go and see if if you can remember that many. I couldn't remember. I I mean I've seen so many horror movies, I couldn't. I don't think if I had taken time, I might come up with 15. Maybe not. That's a lot. So here we go. Ranked at number 15 is it. Okay. That's it was a good movie. It was a good movie. Not um the book was better, of course. Uh, I haven't seen it part two. It's kind of oh, it's kind of weird because I read the book and I I kind of know how it goes. And I just I just never saw part two. Although they do have It Return to Derry coming out on HBO Max, I believe, uh this week coming up, It Return to Dairy, and it's a it's a real origin story of it. It starts like from the beginning of where it came from, the whole thing. So if you're a horror fan, there's not much on lately. There's not many horror TV shows, like I say TV shows, um, streaming shows, because fucking mainstream media networks don't fucking play this shit anymore. They'd rather have fucking Queen Latifah playing the Terminator or whatever you call them. Um so if you have HBO, I think it's on HBO Max. Uh, check out it's it sounds like it's pretty good. Sounds like it's gonna be pretty good. It's called uh It Welcome Back to Derry or something like that. So let's see. Yes, oftentimes the original films are typically better than the remake, but with it, that point is reversed. 2017's theatrical remake of the 1990 TV miniseries, often a new interpretation, and I don't like that either. I hate when they fucking change shit of the classic Stephen King tale leaning into the book's darker elements and handling the abuse and trauma themes more directly. Um while we still love Tim Curry's campy theatrical penny wise, legendary, by the way. Would you okay, Boomers, old Boomers? Well, I mean, I'm at the tail end of Boomers, so anyone before me knows about Dark Shadows. They know about Barnabas Collins, who technically was only a vampire for two seasons. He was not a vampire all the way through, but he was such a good fucking vampire because he got cured. He got cured, but he was such a great vampire in those first two seasons, and it was so unique to TV back then, especially during the day soap operas, a horror soap opera was fucking unheard of, never been done since on, you know, when soap operas ruled daytime TV. So what you had was Barnabas Collins, but then you know, fast forward, there's some characters, the little fucking, that little fucking native doll, the little African native doll with the spear in Trilogy of Terror, that's a classic fucking monster in the in the boomer universe, right? I think we'd all agree with that. We all remember Trilogy of Terror. The funny thing is, is we don't remember the trilogy. We just remember the terror. We only remember one story. It was three stories in that movie. Made for TV movie at that. But that was the talk of the fucking town. That was the talk of school, everything for for years to come. Everybody, and every once in a while I post that little fucking lunatic fucking African doll on the on Facebook, and it always gets a reaction. So you have Bonnams Collins, you have the little fucking African dude from Trilogy of Terror. I would put Tim Curry's, I would put Tim Curry's uh version of Pennywise, uh, and God rest his God rest his soul, Tim Curry. Lost him this year. I would put Pennywise in that category. It was a classic fucking penny. He did a great job with it. So he got to play Pennywise and Frank N. Stein or Frank N. Fur, whatever his name was in the Rocky Horror Picture Show. Um so but then, but then uh uh what's his name? Bill Skarsgod comes along and does a great job. He does he's a great Pennywise too, with Tim Carries is the is the king of Pennywise. Uh Bill Skarsgod's Pennywise took the villainous clown to Nightmarish New Heights. He did fucking do a spectacular job with it. The result is a movie that's a complete horror film experience, giving audiences true and terrifying value. Okay, Us. I don't know if you've ever seen Us, but I think you should see it. I think you should see it. I have a funny feeling I've seen most of these movies. Uh Us came out in 2019. I think you should see it. It's a good, it's a very trippy kind of movie, though. It's it's it's a it's not a jump scare in a sense uh of the traditional horror movie, but what it is is it's it's kind of fucks with you. Like it's it's it's uh uh a thriller uh it's a story, like you have to follow the storyline. And it's a it's a somewhat slow build, but I I recommend you see us. It's a good it's fucking weird. It's weird. I believe it's no, it's Jordan Peel. Jordan Peel uh from Keen Peel. Uh let's see. Us uh in a way, us is actually quite underrated. I believe it is. And for oh, okay. No, I'm not ending the show. Uh let me see. Us is actually quite underrated, and for its innovations to the horror genre, uh, continuing on his massive success of Get Out, which was another one. Watch Get Out. Jordan Peel does these good, crazy fucking horror movies. Second Fourier elevated the social horror subgenre. Building on what he started with Get Out, Peel uh cemented the idea that horror could be both genuinely terrifying and intellectually engaging. That's what I meant. Uh us tackled themes of class divisions, privilege, and America's uh shadow self through the doppelganger concept, providing audiences where hungry for horror with who are hungry for horror with deeper meaning. This film is phenomenally written, features characters that are soon to be icons. All right, I would see it. Like I said, go watch it. Let's see. What's number 13? I just watched this fucking movie, Sinners. This is on streaming. I think it's on Netflix or Prime. You gotta see this fucking movie. You gotta see Sinners. This shit's crazy. This was a fucking crazy movie. Like there's a storyline at the beginning and it's it's a build, but when that shit hits the fan in this movie, the shit doesn't stop hitting the fan. Sinners. It's a fucking great movie. Probably best horror movie of the year. Best horror movie of the year, if you ask me. Sinners. No, I'm getting all congested here. Uh, the beauty of Sinners is that it gets a scary movie on a multitude of levels, psychologically, historically, and of course, uh thematically, with those dang vampires. Uh Rye Kugler and Michael B. Jordan delivered one of the greatest bloodsucker films ever created with Sinners. It's a great one, thanks to its bold visual storytelling, which finally invited us into the breadth of Coolidge cool Kugler's imagination on an original IP being intellectual property. Uh, blending the bloodthirsty vampire tale with southern gothic folklore. Fuck. Uh blues-soaked spirituality. It's that rare film that manages to be both genuinely entertaining, uh genre fun, and artistically ambitious with meaningful themes. Exactly the kind of swing to the fences filmmaking. People want to see more of and Sinners Unapologetically Black Chef's Kiss. Gotta see it. Go see Sinners. Go see all of these, I think. I'm probably gonna say that about all of them. Hellraiser, well. No, I don't I don't I don't want to mess around with it. Let's see.

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Try to turn it off. There you go. Okay, I haven't done that in a while.

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Okay. Ah, let me see. Hellraiser is Hellraiser. It's at the standard, right? I mean, uh great fucking movie. Came out in '87, classic. Very dark, very dark movie. The p the cursed puzzle box. You know, it's uh just a really good movie. Audition. I've seen this one. Came out in 1999. This shit is fucking crazy. This shit is not this shit is crazy ass fucking movie. It's audition is such a here it is. Audition is such a wild movie. It follows a film producer who seeks a soulmate by hosting fake auditions for a non-existent film. He becomes captivated by a quiet woman who's not what she seems. What follows is horror and survival as he faces her true nature. You gotta see that fucking movie. Audition is just fucking crazy. That's just a crazy fucking horror movie. So go see it. Let me see. Scream. All right, we've all seen Scream, the Mask, legendary now at this point. The mask is right up there with uh Freddy and Jason, I would be safe to say. Uh, and in Leatherface. And Captain Spaulding, right? From House of a Thousand Corpses and uh The Devil's Rejects. Those are the big five. Uh, let's see, what do we got? Uh Susperia. Susperia is 1977 movie. It's fucking really bizarre. Like, it's just like it's really 1977. When you watch this movie, you know it was a 70s film. It's it's just got like uh it's it's just a surreal, like it says, a surreal nightmare, uh, like visuals of this film and the incredible acting. It's just a really weird movie. Um it's it's a 1977 film. So it's just there's a lot of so I'll read it to you. Uh Dario Agento gave us one of the most unsettling horror films in cinema history. When a young woman enters a prestigious dance academy in Germany, thus Germans, she immediately realizes that this school is not what it initially seemed. Plagued by deaths, horrible visions, sudden illnesses, the young dancer soon discovers the airy truth about the academy and wonders if she will make it out alive. So it it's it's a weird movie. It's a weird movie. Uh Carrie. Okay. What's there? What's what's not to say? Is that one of the if you were thinking about it? Uh is that one of the one name horror movies that you thought about? We all know Sissy Spacich, fucking phenomenal job. John Travolta, great job of being an asshole. Uh, Carrie, right? And uh, let's see. The ending with the hand coming out of the fucking rocks. I saw it in the movie theater, the whole fucking place just lost it. So it's Kincaid's Theater in Winthrop, Massachusetts, back in the day, a single movie house uh when Winthrop was great and Boston was great, and uh it was a full house, and that shit, when that arm comes out of the fucking ground at the end, people fucking lose their minds. They just everybody jumped, screamed. You couldn't even hear the end of the movie. Like, really, because that wasn't the exact end of the movie. You could just not hear the rest of the movie because everybody lost their minds. Great memory. Uh, what do we got? Alien. Okay. I I'd put that as a sci-fi, but it's a sci fi horror. So, you know, Alien, great movie, one of the greatest sequels ever, Aliens. Uh the fucking last 15 minutes of Aliens might be the crazy the most intense 15 minutes in movie history, arguably, if not. Not in the top five. That's aliens with the S. But Alien with the greatest tagline in in movie history. I don't care what anybody says. Greatest tagline in movie history. In space, no one can hear you scream. How fucking I mean, think of that. Right? Greatest fucking tagline in the history of movies. I don't care what anyone says. Let me see. What do we got? Sinister. Sinister's a that's that's that's one of these crazy ass movies. Sinister's effectiveness lies in the fact that those grainy home movie style murder films are deeply unnerving. The films take on the technique made, the experience feel real and invasive, kind of like you're watching something you shouldn't see. Add that to the fact that the movie opted for psychological horrors over typical jump scares, and you have the recipe for a particular slow building dread courtesy of one, Mr. Boogie. One of the most terrifying, scary movie villains ever. Okay. Nosferatu, that's the craziest fucking villain ever. I mean, this is the greatest vampire of all time. Nosferatu. That's a whole thing. And if you want to see the the making, like how well there was a fictional movie uh made on the making of this movie with Willem Defoe, uh Kiss of the Vampire, I think it was called, or something like that. Um they tried to do a remake of this in 2024. It was good. It was good, it wasn't great. I went to see it. It was a good, it was good. It but Count Orlock did not look anything like the fucking black and white guy. That was fucking really bizarre. He really looked like that too. Max Max uh what's his name? Snelling or something like that. No, Max Snelling was a boxer. I forget the guy's name. Uh let's see. Number four, Dracula. Right, what's there to say? I think there's 72 movies on Amazon Prime with fucking some iteration of Dracula in it, in the name. Blackula being one of the best. Okay, let's see. Uh hereditary. Hereditary. I don't know if I saw this. Let me see. Um, doesn't rely on cheap tricks, excessive gore, or illicit scares from its audience has said deep sense of dread and foreboding throughout the film when the grandmother of the Graham family passes away, starts a chain of events that leads to haunted by a demon, say the least. All right, I mean, I don't know if I remember seeing this, so maybe I probably didn't see it. So I guess I'll have to watch it. Because I've seen everything on this list so far. Uh, let's see, number two, Psycho. That's the one that everybody thought was like that should be number one, right? Number one movie with one name, Psycho. That's a boomer thing, though, right? Um, Vince Vaughn did a remake of this, I believe, in the early 2000s. Um, before he was Vince Vaughn, the same character in every movie. Although I do like Vince Vaughn, though. Uh Psycho, we all know Alfin Hitchcock, the shower scene, um real life. You know, like it's it's really the the star of the movie dies halfway, like at the beginning of the movie, pretty much.

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Tippy Hedrin, I think her name was. And that was Melanie Griffith's mother, I believe. The actress Melody Griffith. I think Tippy Hedrin was uh so and let's see, what's number one? Halloween. Okay, I'll I'll go with that. Halloween, the you know, and and do not sleep on Rob Zombie's remake of the original Halloween. That's a fucking great remake. So if you want to see, we've all seen Halloween by John Carpenter, but if you want to see a great remake, watch the Rob Zombie version of Halloween, the remake. Don't go to Halloween 2 with him. He went off the rails with that one. Watch Halloween, the Rob Zombie version, and I guarantee you you will not be disappointed if you haven't already seen it. And if you've already seen it, watch it again. When Rob Zombie is good, he's fucking really good. But when he's bad, he's very bad. He's either hot or cold with his movies. But his remake of Halloween was actually critically acclaimed. It was a good fucking version. So that's it, people. That's the show. That's that's ended it with movies. I'm back. What are we? All right, I'm only four minutes over. Only four minutes over. Let me see. What did I miss before I go? Uh, let me see. Let me see. Patty, remember that song? I don't want my MTV. Yes, I did. Hey Scott. Yeah, did he have sunglasses on? Patty says she loves her Jewish people too. Uh, Dave Phillips, King of the 45, loves his Jewish friends. I watched something about Mary last night and laughed. Something about Mary is a pretty funny movie. Last House on the Left. It's a weird, that's a fucking crazy movie. I spit on your grave is even fucking crazier. They're both kind of the same fucking that that's shock. That's like shock horror. Um, was it Dollar Night of Kingcaids when I saw Carrie? No, I believe it was like a Friday night. It was a packed house, man. Uh, good night, Dave Phillips and good night. Patty says was afraid to take a shower after the movie. Watching Psycho. And well, I'm not gonna go take a shower, but I'm gonna go see the beautiful Dr. Vera. She's home now, and uh she works till seven on Thursdays, which she gets home, and I'm doing my podcast. So that's good. I cooked dinner for her, made a nice dinner for her tonight. So she gets dinner when she gets home. And with that said, uh thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. If you like it, share it. If you didn't like it, thanks for watching and listening for an hour and five minutes and 47 seconds. Uh I will be back next week. Probably do some horror theme. And uh that's that. And my phone keeps fucking pinging because I have it hooked up to my audio processor, which I shouldn't do. But with all that said, uh again, uh, you are the engine that runs this machine. Without you, it would just be me doing this by myself. And I still love doing it. Uh 190 episodes, still doing it. No, no end in sight. And uh, you know, maybe I'll start moving into the movies too. I didn't I dabbled in that for a little while with this, but we'll see. But anyway, uh, like I always say, doing this podcast for you, uh, to quote my favorite artist, Morrissey. The pleasure, the privilege is mine, and I'll be back next week, probably without Jack.